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jamesid29:
Boss, I wasn't disagreeing with you.. I actually thought your answer was a good one, as I mentioned.

LordReed:
Same difference. I didn't say I would remove all of the ability to choose, there just won't exist the power or desire to hurt another human being.

Between a god that will slaughter billions of humans and one that would remove the power to hurt another human being, I would definitely choose the later.

LordReed:
So the criteria to enter heaven is no longer belief in Jesus/god?

LordReed:
You believe that in heaven nobody would do evil or hurt one another yet when I say the the same thing you say I am making robots.

LordReed:
You didn't. Yes I am that 8 year old child who did naughty things and to think that a god would have punished me for eternity for those things is sickening.

LordReed:
Lots of things. One that will instantly change the nature of the world is I would remove from people the power and desire to hurt themselves or one another.

LordReed:
Which you won't answer because it exposes how utterly cruel such a proposition would be.

LordReed:
So an accountable child of 8years will suffer eternal punishment for stealing sweets? What kind of just judgement is that?

jamesid29:
This is actually are really good way of looking at it.
Personally I think as long as we can comfortably use the word "child" for an individual, then they are not yet morally culpable. But really I don't know

jamesid29:
This is actually are really good way of looking at it.
Personally I think as long as we can comfortably use the word "child" for an individual, then they are not yet morally culpable. But really I don't know

hoopernikao:
@Janosky, Maximus69, DappaD, Acehart

I have asked you two cogent and important questions and prove of your theology. It is sad that till now, you cant present any and yet you held to a doctrine that has no foundation in the scriptures. Is this right? You dont make a claim you cant show with the Bible.

1. I asked you to present a scriptures that specifically said JESUS IS ANGEL MICHEAL. You have roamed around the bible without presenting any. Not even directly or indirectly, all you presented is like a child doing 1+1 = 2 with bible. Is this how bible interpretation is to be handled?


2. Who in the history of the early church (1st and 2nd Century) preached this message of yours (JESUS IS ANGEL [b]ARCHANGEL MICHAEL).[/b]

I have asked you over and over again to present here, i known text that originated from those century supporting your claim? Is it a new revelation that doesnt have history. Who preached it, when was it originated. Dont you think it is an accidental misinterpretation of the bible? A doctrine without history will be false. All doctrine must be seen in teaching and practices of the early churches. You cant present any. Sadly, you cant because it doesnt exist.


Let me help you now.

The very first mention of such doctrine ( i mean close to it) originated in the 3rd century (i wont give you the name of your church father who originated such error, go and read yourself). It was a heresy preached to reduced the work of Christ by the proponent. The reason for Nicea council is to check mate such error. This is contrary to your false stand that Nicea council was instituted to preach Trinity for the first time.

The doctrine of Trinity was in existence before and there are prove that the 1st and 2nd centuries writer wrote about it, even those who met Jesus Apostles directly. Nicea council was to affirm that doctrine and curb the lies newly originated at that period.


Back to the issue.

Get this on record, that you have no scriptures for such bad doctrine. You will only be twisting your way, sadly, there is even little on nothing to use to twist and the scripture is clear on this issue.

@Rozz that you are trying to convince confuse has already receive that which is true and important, and no one will be able to take that from her. And she will continue to be established in the truth.

dannyyol2018:
Sir, you should have taken your time to go through what the OP wrote before reacting emotionally.

MuttleyLaff:
Finallydead what did you type that got your post thats hidden above?. You prolly got yourself banned as well

Finallydead:
Somehow this thread was derailed by untoward elements. What a waste of six good pages thnx to...
Wonder if Acehart knew what he was inviting with Mmus6 and his seductive antichrist cult to something involving manifestations of the Spirit.
Was really interested in knowing what hoopernikao was gonna do about angel tongues and Acts2. He eventually didn't touch both aspects. I come here to learn not just to teach and one way or another, I do. Would like to see how the scripture can overturn itself on angel tongues, hooper.

Of course, Goshen360 will clearly see from Myer's reply how he's missed it and got himself in a difficult place when using his final method.

Eventually, we could all just pray and ask the Spirit to guide us into all truth. He is our ultimate Truth. Spiritual realities are best experienced rather than just spoken.

Omuneizzy6:
Hello brethren, the dream goes like this.

We were three in number,having a cool time. when a lady gave us practical test at a river shore. but it looks real that I had to pass through tough situations.
I concentrated on my court to have a better result.

The lady stood by the river shore.. Then called the three of us. To prepare a net each then catch fish, the highest quantity will be rewarded. But she never told us what would be the prize. She only told us to mind our personal business that, there will be tough situations but if wisdom being applied you will yield a better result. But she stood like a commander, we all consent to her like followers.

After the instruction She left,
I majestically prepared my net, though the tide went down at that moment (time when the water flows up and down )
I set the net round to have a C shape targeted between the Sand and water.

While setting the net the tide starts coming up with rapid move. I quickly set it, and then match it down to have blockages in order to protect the fish if caught.

It gets to an extend the water brought so many fishes into my net, I was so so glad I had to hurry up and get a bowl then start packing.. But the bigger fishes was at the down side that if care is not taken I will loss them to the tide.

I hurried and packed from the up instead of starting from down. It gets to a point where the water became full. And became scary with different shapes and sounds moving in the water. I looked towards my left I saw an empty container moving with speed as if something is pulling it but no one, later it capsized, this happened like three conservative times I couldn't control my fear again..

But remember, I must get those fishes in the water to have my good results because the greater your fish, the greater your prize. I had to dive in inside the water with my bowl.

But when I get in, some had already escaped while some are getting rotting. I became confused. I had to leave though I pack few of the rotting once but it was so bad... I came up from the water my eyes was filled with tears.. With all my efforts and boldness nothing to show forth.

I sat down at the river shore with so much tears.. When the lady came to me with the other two guys.
Why are you crying young man? asked the lady what is the problem, did you sustain any injury.. I never said any word my head was faced down.
When I heard the two guys, oboy see fish eh.. This guy is really a Fisher man .
I raised up my head.. And see their bowl with just few fishes..
I stood up and ask what happened, they said guy it was too tough for us. While the lady look at my face and smiled then I woke up..

Please do you have any idea about the meaning?
I know many will ask me to pray over it but let me just understand it a little.. so I will know how or where to channel my prayers.. thanks

Eulalia:
Please this an advice to all AS genotype peeps. Especially the girls.

My advise to every AS carriers. Do not lose hope.
Don't throw caution to the wind cos it might back fire and you would wish you never did.
Don't see your genotype as a barrier or limitation. In fact, we are healthier than AA carriers according to studies as we hardly suffer malaria. I might not be able to explain the science behind that now but its true. Do your research. So no cause for alarm as with the compatible genotype, we can have healthy babies and be free from stories that touch.

This is just my two cents.

Shalom.

MuttleyLaff:
Meaning you entered your response on the wrong window. Is Acehart a nom de guerre for you, instead of Gòmbs?

MuttleyLaff:
Are you Gòmbs?

MuttleyLaff:
What's so funny brother?

hoopernikao:


Wrestling name of Jesus?
There is nothing we won't see on Nairaland.

You want me to juxtapose scriptures to see what isn't there? Do you juxtapose it when those who preach trinity ask you to? It is convenient to ask for juxtaposing a doctrine alien to the church.

Voice of angel, why is Jesus not trumpet of God then. He must be the trumpet to be blown too. You really made me remember book of my bible story. I think that book affected many.

How convenient to align voice of as to mean the person. Even in grammar, you will be laughed at.

So, when you are told that some speaks with the voice of a lion, he must be a lion from a bush then. So convenient. You guys need to calm down and start reading scriptures properly.

hoopernikao:
Is Jesus angel Michael? This is the question. You can put aside inference. Moses is always referred almost in line of what Christ did, should we then say Moses is Jesus?

We are speaking about personality here. So, is Jesus and Michael the same person? Then show that in scripture.

hoopernikao:
Bro, Daniel 10:13 said one of. Didn't you see that? Can you readily twist that? One of? Means it's not consistent?

Also leave aside the wrestling of Jesus as Angel. You have no scriptures for that yet you consistently mentioning it.

One of the chief princes.

See below.

Ephesians 3:10
10To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

The word principalities here is from the same root "arche" which implies beginning of, the chiefs. Note that it is principalities and powers. That is chiefs, leaders. Refering to heavenly being.

The bible never mentioned number of arch angels and we must stay with bible narration. Making assumptions that we have only one because Michael is refered to as arch is dubious. Scriptures pointed that we have many of them.

If you understand bible narration, you will know that it will usually leave out names that isn't needed in discussion, hence the reason for Michael mentioned.

You will only be dubious to see "one of the princes" and said Daniel made a mistake.

Hiswordxray:
Well, the question makes no sense. Because I had just said I fellowship with the body of Christ in Lagos. I even said this gathering it is made up of believers who pledge their allegiance to Christ.

Hiswordxray:
And where did you get the conclusion that I am a Lone Ranger?

Hiswordxray:
I meet with the body of Christ in Lagos. It has no name, no denomination, no G.O

Just brothers and sisters who have pledge their allegiance to Christ and Christ alone.

You can read this post to understand better:
https://www.nairaland.com/5650436/ecclesia-vs-church-system-better

Hiswordxray:
Christ only has one body, and I belong to Christ as well as all those who are his.

Maximus69:
My dear, there are lots and lots of sacred secrets that's been hidden by the churches of Christendom.

There is nothing like Hellfire!

God only had life in mind for Adam and Eve, but they choose death so he (God) is now pleading with Adam's descendants who find themselves in this mess to repent and regain what Adam lost or they will also go to where Adam is which is a return to non-existence. Romans 6:23
God has no plans for evil or evildoers. The only plan he has is good no evil! Jeremiah 7:31, 19:5-6

As for records of bad deeds God's word made it clear that once a sinner dies he has paid FULLY for his wickedness! Romans 6:7
Jehovah can't tolerate looking at evil {Habakkuk 1:13} so instead of keeping account of the deeds of evildoers, he burns their records meaning he has forgotten them for good!

BadRadio:
Additionally, you may simply know that your angel really is with you despite not feeling like you've received a clear sign or validation.
Knowing is enough!

Trust that when you ask your guardian angel to step forward to be with you… They will!
This is the angel who has been watching out for you since the time of your birth.

It's likely you could see them when you were a baby, and as a young child and you can re-open this link now.

Relax and enjoy reestablishing a direct link with your guardian angel.

Don't worry if you're not getting specific guidance. Your angel is giving you exactly what you need right now.

The more you practice linking with your angels, the easier and clearer the connection will become.

Daily practice will help accelerate reopening this connection and increase the amonth of signs of their presence you receive.

Again, its normal that this feels a bit strange at first, or like you're making it up at first.
Just relax and allow the angel to guide you. The messages you receive from angels may be incredibly simple to start.

The angels may simply say something like:
“You're not alone… I'm here… And I love you…”
Receiving any message alongside feeling an uplifted vibration of light and warmth is a beautiful sign the message is real.

You can also ask:
“Please bring me clear and undeniable signs you're with me. Please bring me a sign today!”

delkuf:
Where is that kobojunkies this is what I was telling him this morning. You cannot have the Holy Spirit in you and said the blood of Jesus Christ cannot nullify the works for the devil

MuttleyLaff:
Acehart my brother, it takes clout for Maximus69 to come out and publicly admit to a past deed. He clearly is a changed man from way back then, and as since made peace with His Maker
Now, no one has condone rape of any sort here on the thread, certainly not him nor I, but for someone to be casting the first stone, and be forming hollier than thou and holly pass, if just taking the biscuit. Who is she to curse/condemn whom God has not cursed/condemned. The guy is a new creation, old things have passed away. All things about him have become new.

Maximus69, did not shared that past of him to gloat or to glorify that dastardly moment of weakness act(s), he was trying to make a point that went the wrong way and gave misleading perceptions. At every point, I confronted him, but you can see, he never gave me face or a response

The bible tells us no sin, is greater than another sin, that sin is sin, so who does khia think she is, to be wriggling in the dagger into Maximus69

khia is AA, who's partner is Ndigbo. She is a strong African woman, who can give as good as she takes, she isn't a push over. She is no emotional wreck. She is just a hypocritical, confused of her ancestral roots sanctimonious black racist Israelite wannabe. I owe her and nobagger apologies.

Good riddance to bad rubbish, I'll say. Mtcheew