Now, what shall we do? Shall we go on sinning because we have no Law to condemn us any more, but are living under grace? Never! Just think what it would mean. You belong to the power which you choose to obey, whether you choose sin, whose reward is death, or God, obedience to whom means the reward of righteousness. Thank God that you, who were at one time the servants of sin, honestly responded to the impact of Christ’s teaching when you came under its influence. Then, released from the service of sin, you entered the service of righteousness. (I use an everyday illustration because human nature grasps truth more readily that way.) In the past you voluntarily gave your bodies to the service of vice and wickedness—for the purpose of becoming wicked. So, now, give yourselves to the service of righteousness—for the purpose of becoming really good. [b]For when you were employed by sin you owed no duty to righteousness. Yet what sort of harvest did you reap from those things that today you blush to remember? In the long run those things mean one thing only—death.

But now that you are employed by God, you owe no duty to sin, and you reap the fruit of being made righteous, while at the end of the road there is life for evermore.

Sin pays its servants: the wage is death. But God gives to those who serve him: his free gift is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

advocatejare:

Judas died by banging himself (Matthew 27:5)


Fell from what?

Where did Judas fall from?

Judas’s body fell from the tree or gallows on which he hung himself and since he was dead already, the body bursted open and spilled out the intestines




You dubiously stopped at stopped at verse 6 so as to prevent your audience from getting the full information. Why didn’t you quote it to verse 10

“ So they took counsel and bought with them the potter's field as a burial place for strangers. Therefore that field has been called the Field of Blood to this day. Then was fulfilled what had been spoken by the prophet Jeremiah, saying, “And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him on whom a price had been set by some of the sons of Israel, and they gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord directed me.”


Judas’ action of throwing the money at them was already prophesied long before Jesus was born:

Zechariah 11:13
And the LORD said to me, "Throw it to the potter"--this magnificent price at which they valued me. So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them to the potter in the house of the LORD.


Now to play your game back at you, you muslims lie that Allah is the author of the Quran and that for that reason, there is no error in your Quran since you claim that Allah is all-knowing


Now answer this: which is the the correct order of creation according to Allah in the Quran?

“Heaven first, then darkness, forenoon, earth, water, pastures, mountains… “ Quran 79:27-33


Or


“Earth first, then Mountains, Heavens and Stars…” Quran 41:9 ?


Why did Allah forget the sequence of its creation?

MaxInDHouse:


I'm not here for STORY, what i'm here to tell you is that there is nothing like HellFire the word written there is Gehenna it's a symbol of complete destruction!

MaxInDHouse:


The dead will remain dead in their graves until they're called:

because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord! 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

Paul believe that the first to resurrect are those who believe in the teachings of Christ (Christians) so where will they be before they are called? John 5:28-29

MaxInDHouse:


Your problem is faithlessness!

You people are not just satisfied with God's judgment, you want people to suffer after they've paid for sin at death so like your trinity fathers you keep anticipating more punishment for those who wronged you.

Adam is the first and foremost sinner, it's his sin that brought sickness and death to billions after him, so if Adam had not sinned there wouldn't have been any reason for sickness, suffering or death.
So answer this simple question:
Where is Adam and Eve today, heaven or hell?

MaxInDHouse:

All your questions are summed up in one so i go straight to the answer, God has two things in mind from the beginning LIFE or DEATH so each person must choose one {Deuteronomy 30:19} it's as simple as ABC!

MaxInDHouse:

Death is the wages for all kinds of sin! Romans 6:23

Baamisere:
Help Me! I'm Fed Up

I've been dating my girlfriend for about 3 years now and she has been a good woman through and through. I've met her parents and we're discussing on the next step. She has been supportive, responsible and caring despite our tribal difference.

However, the problem I'm having with her is that when she's angry she tends to use foul languages and curses on me which I don't like. She end up apologizing after the ranting but I'm tired of going over this. Please how can I deal with this attitude of hers?

I need honest contributions to this thread.

MaxInDHouse:

Sure an adulterer can only be sentenced if an accomplice is found because one can't commit adultery alone nah. But in this case Jesus isn't talking about what is obvious to humans rather Jesus is talking about the heart as in what people thinks before taking action!
Luke 6:45

Jesus is not referring to any known law rather he as the one who will judge both the living and the dead is teaching us how to avoid wrong thoughts which often leads to sin!

MaxInDHouse:


NO! Jesus is only teaching his listeners how to avoid trouble {Proverbs 17:14} for instance Jesus also said that a man who keeps looking at a woman lustfully is guilty of Adultery meaning he should be stoned to death for doing that. It's not in God's law like that.
Jesus is the mediator of the New Covenant and his teachings are the laws that comes along with that New Covenant, so it's either people accept Jesus' teachings which will lead them to everlasting life {John 3:16} or stick to the Old Covenant which doesn't come with the promise of life everlasting.

MaxInDHouse:


However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; and whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·henʹna.

Jesus is warming the Christians not to become wrathful against their fellow believers because those who practice such a thing will not inherit God's kingdom.
The word mistranslated "HellFire" is "Gehenna" it's a valley behind the wall of Jerusalem, it is used as a symbol of complete destruction so dead animals and condemned criminals are thrown there so that the fire and brimstone there will utterly destroy their bodies. Of course the Jews believe that such ones will not be remembered during the resurrection of the dead.
That's why Joseph Arimathea and Nicodemus asked for Jesus' body because he's not a criminal, but as for those two thieves Gehenna is where their dead bodies will be thrown!

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus said so many things in PARABLES {Matthew 13:13, 34-35} and Daniel have hinted us that when the Messiah arrives most people will never grasp his teachings {Daniel 12:10 compare to John 6:61-66}
WHY? The Psalmist answered because he will speak in Parables! Psalms 78:2
So if you're quoting Jesus word for word but don't want to rely on the Spirit of God which is the one that can make the word active in the midst of believers {John 16:12-13} you will just continue to argue among yourselves yet claiming you belong to Jesus! Luke 11:23

It's by their FRUITS {Matthew 7:16-18} that Jesus said not their words {Matthew 7:21-23} so try to figure out the group of people practicing what Jesus taught then whatever they tell you about Jesus' words know that they fully understand that's why the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit is evident in their gathering, and anything you say against them is futile! Galatians 5:22-23

TenQ:

Hello Bro,
I find it amazing how you find it convenient to disregard some words of the scripture.


Rev 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day and night —those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
What is a TORMENT knowing that the dead knows NOTHING!
Can I torment a dead cat?
What does it mean that they have No Rest day and night?
If the dead are deemed to have slept, how come these particular set of dead people have no rest?
Job 14:10-12


Matthew 25:46
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Since the dead know nothing, can the dead be punished?
Doesn't this mean that only the living can be punished?

Gee64:
We are all living through an illusion; What we call hell is a 'Prison House' for Evil-doers. Methinks.

TenQ:


I think your problem is trying to deemphasize the reality of Hades as Hell.

Like I said:
Hell could mean different things depending on the context
i. Hell = Physical Grave (grave/tomb)
ii. Hell = A place of holding for dead souls (Sheol)
iii. Hell = A place of holding and punishment of wicked dead souls (Hell. Hades)
iv. Hell = Physical Refuse Dump in Israel (Valley of Hinnom, Gehenna)


No, I would never call Lake of Fire Hell fire because it is prone to misinterpretation. Revelation spoke only about the Lake of Fire and not Hell or Hell fire!

In the resurrection, the risen body will be very physically tangible. For the righteous, it would have other characteristics such as not being prone to sickness, pain and suffering (being like Jesus Body at His resurrection). God designed humans to be a Trinity not a Duality.

In Hell, a human being is a Duality (Soul and Spirit)
In the Lake of Fire a Human being is a Trinity (Body, Soul and Spirit)

I believe I have answered your question.

TenQ:

But your writeup didn't distinguish between Hell and the lake of fire AND seem to suggest that the punishment of Hell (Hades) does not exist.

TenQ:

The book of Revelation didn't describe Hell, it described the LAKE OF FIRE!

The lake of Fire is where Resurrected Ungodly Humans and dumped. SInce no one has been resurrected yet, the lake of fire is EMPTY

TenQ:

The simple question is:
Which of the four definitions of hell that doesn't exist!
or better still fault my claim that there are four contextual definitions of hell

TenQ:

You wrote so much but without comprehension

1. There is a difference between Hell and Lake of Fire
2. Hell could mean different things depending on the context
i. Hell = Physical Grave
ii. Hell = A place of holding for dead souls (Sheol)
iii. Hell = A place of holding and punishment of wicked dead souls (Hell. Hades)
iv. Hell = Physical Refuse Dump in Israel (Valley of Hinnom, Gehenna)
3. Whereas there are people in Hell, there is not one single person in the Lake of Fire yet

Which of these four hells don't exist?
or You mean that none of these four hells exist!

TenQ:

You wrote so much but without comprehension

1. There is a difference between Hell and Lake of Fire
2. Hell could mean different things depending on the context
i. Hell = Physical Grave
ii. Hell = A place of holding for dead souls (Sheol)
iii. Hell = A place of holding and punishment of wicked dead souls (Hell. Hades)
iv. Hell = Physical Refuse Dump in Israel (Valley of Hinnom, Gehenna)
3. Whereas there are people in Hell, there is not one single person in the Lake of Fire yet

Which of these four hells don't exist?
or You mean that none of these four hells exist!

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, didn't say Hell would be created after the resurrection, and this 2000 years ago.
Rather, Heaven and Hell will be opened for the admissions of souls only after His return(judgement included)

LordReed:


Listen to it from the 45sec mark, Bart Erhman speaks about the hell question.

I am not interested in believing in hell but if you can produce evidence for it I'd be interested.

LordReed:


Have you watched the video?

22jumpstreet:
Why would God send his spirit to hell ?

I am still yet to figure why Christians believe in hell and heaven ?

Psalm 104:29-31 "send forth your spirit and they are created and replenish the earth, take it and they die and return back to dust ..."

LordReed:
For your enlightenment:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3sR3z_rvQ4

uchennamani:

It doesn't. Please know this and be free.

AfonjaConehead:

Really!!! How on earth can one you get a trustworthy reliable vugga then?!