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Religion / Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Acehart: 2:29pm On Mar 20, 2022
Kobojunkie:
[s]See.... the question is simple....did Jephthah actually sacrifice his daughter to get Lord as a burnt offering as the story says he did?. undecided

According to the writer of the story, Jephthah sacrificed his daughter believing he did it onto God, same way billions of so called Christians today claim they serve God this by bowing down ,not directly to God's Law , but to the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches), even after Jesus Christ denounced all such submission as being against God's Truth and such worship as being meaningless/void. You all still go about claiming your worship is in the name of God so how is that any different from the claim made in the story told of Jephthah and his act. undecided

So, skip over the long talk... no need for unnecessary lectures, go straight to answering the question. [/s] undecided

He that readeth, let him understand
Religion / Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Acehart: 9:40am On Mar 20, 2022
NNTR:
Acehart please dont encourage Kobojunkie to meander down a false trail because the line of reasoning that Jephthah intended or tried to be like many men, who substituted something in the stead of the instituted burnt offering laws is argued using false equivalence examples

Jephthah actually was sticking to the instituted burnt offering laws which is to sacrifice a clean animal. Imagine if it was a fly or pig that first came out to greet Jephthah, do you or Kobojunkie think, thats what we'll be reading happened in the text, hmm? Of course, not.

You guys need to use the head and not the heart, put emotions and feelings aside, let common sense, rationale and logic rule and win the day.

Even, as I earlier put up there, Jephthah has a get-out-jail free pass card, to prevent the fantasy giving up his daughter to God as a burnt offering. Yes, and that is, Jephthah could have done Leviticus 27:2-6, but he opted to go the whole hog which is succumbing to accepting and choosing a lifetime of living sacrifice to God, for his daughter

[sub]Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.[/sub]



His wailing:

God’s yoke is easy, and His burden is light. Didn’t the scripture say, “His commandment aren’t burdensome”. If so, how come the tears?

You may be correct regarding Jephthah’s action and for good measure it’s facilitation by the Levitical laws. But those tears; wailing for what?

I mentioned that it “may” have become a tradition for Israel to sacrifice an animal after victory in war, something that began with Moses, after the Amalek war or with Joshua after the Ai war. Jephthah didn’t need to make a vow; just follow the tradition delivered to them and an animal without blemish that comes out of anywhere in Israel and not his house alone would be sufficient.

His intention was according to his heart, a rash vow precipitated by the events of his past.
Religion / Re: Did Jephthah Actually Sacrifice His Daughter To The Lord As A Burnt Offering? by Acehart: 9:14am On Mar 20, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Judges 11 vs 31 undecided
undecided


Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the Lord's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
-Judges 11:31(KJV)

You missed out on something- the meaning of the word "for". I see from your response to some personalities here that you have substituted or given the wrong meaning to the word "for": you have replaced it was the word "as". You say, "I will offer it up as a burnt offering".

The preposition "for" in the Hebrew language has at least 14 translations. The best fit for the verse is בִּמקוֹם, instead of or כְּנֶגֶד, as against. Let's see this example: I will seize your allowances instead of flogging you. Instead here means "to give up (something) for something else" or "part with for some equivalent". Sometimes we use the word in the English language to indicate exchange, swapping, or substitution.

When you understand the full implication of Jephthah's vow, you would conclude that he was rash, and running contrary to the will of God. He wanted to institute his will above God's will. Why do I say this?

1. All burnt offerings from Genesis 2 to Jephthat's day involved the sacrifice of the male firstling of cattle, sheep, or goat- A shadow of the sacrifice of God's firstborn, Christ Jesus. Jephthah tried to be like many men, who substituted something in the stead of the instituted burnt offering laws (and God acted decisively); Cain was rejected because he offered the fruit of the ground instead of a firstling from the flock, Aaron's sons offered "strange fire" instead of the fire from the altar and paid with their lives, Elijah's altar was destroyed because he offered a burnt offering at Camel instead of Jerusalem, Saul was removed from the throne because he offered an animal (as a sacrifice) from Amalek instead of Bethlehem, and Uzziah was struck with leprosy because he usurped the prerogatives of the priest. I give all these examples to show that God abhorred Jephthah's vow. All levitical ordinances can never be replaced by the will of man.

2. The Bible shows us that God's people offered an animal sacrifice after warfare and according to God's prescription. We see this in the Book of Joshua after Joshua conquered Ai: He built it according to what is written in the Book of the Law of Moses - Joshua 8:31. When Jephthah said, "and I will offer it up for a burnt offering", one would think it referred to an animal. Only until his daughter was seen that one would see the true intention of Jephthah.

Kobojunkie, read up Leviticus 27 and let’s know your thoughts

Cc: NNTR

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Family / Re: Who Is A Wife And How Do You Find Her? by Acehart: 9:24am On Mar 18, 2022
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Religion / Re: Does The Bible Really Condemn Marrying More Than One Wife? by Acehart: 5:19am On Mar 14, 2022
Microwhy:

Rubbish quotation and illustration.
You just went astray

You missed the forest for the trees.
Religion / Re: Does The Bible Really Condemn Marrying More Than One Wife? by Acehart: 8:01pm On Mar 13, 2022
Samfloxin:

Na so them go carry HIV outside and give you. Go and love your wife again indeed. You forgot that there may be a peculiar reason why God commanded him thus.

What was the reason?
Religion / Re: Does The Bible Really Condemn Marrying More Than One Wife? by Acehart: 2:18pm On Mar 13, 2022
LollySeaSide:

If the bolded is true, then why are we claiming the love of the God of Israel?
Since Nigeria is not Israel and God cannot marry a second wife.

When you see the word “illustrate”, it means you are looking at an allegory. This is what I believe is the interpretation of the allegory: If God were a man, He’d marry only one wife. He’ll love her with everything He has got. He would not fill the hole she creates with another woman’s love. His love is enough for two.

Why Israel? Remember Abraham? It’s not Israel but Abraham. The love for Israel was due to the love for Abraham. In the whole wide world, when God needed a soul to believe Him, only one did. Israel only inherited the love God had for Abraham. When the natural seed of Abraham failed, the spiritual seed of Abraham inherited God’s love.

Please take your eyes of the natural seed and behold the spiritual seed. It’s still the same “wife”, Abraham.
Religion / Re: Does The Bible Really Condemn Marrying More Than One Wife? by Acehart: 2:11pm On Mar 13, 2022
Oscillator:
so many are weak but appear strong.

So many are in need of help bit pretend to five help.

May God have mercy on your stupidity!

Amen
Religion / Re: Does The Bible Really Condemn Marrying More Than One Wife? by Acehart: 2:11pm On Mar 13, 2022
Juell:

Yes it is

This is what I believe is the interpretation of the allegory: If God were a man, He’d marry only one wife. He’ll love her with everything He has got. He would not fill the hole she creates with another woman’s love. His love is enough for two.
Religion / Re: Does The Bible Really Condemn Marrying More Than One Wife? by Acehart: 10:44am On Mar 13, 2022
Juell:
I sure do

Is the Book of Hosea a book of allegorical expressions?
Religion / Re: Does The Bible Really Condemn Marrying More Than One Wife? by Acehart: 10:43am On Mar 13, 2022
englishmart:
Any act that transgresses against divine law, or an act of unrighteousness.

Thank you for this wonderful answer. So I’d like to ask you these (please answer in the order of the questions):

1. What laws in the Bible are called the divine laws (to all men)?
2. Which of the divine laws does adultery (polygamy, polyandry etc) run contrary to?
Is adultery against the divine law?
3. State specifically (from the Bible) where God honored adultery (in all its form)?
4. State specifically where God honored faithfulness to one wife or husband.
Religion / Re: Does The Bible Really Condemn Marrying More Than One Wife? by Acehart: 10:35am On Mar 13, 2022
Juell:

No please, God did not marry. He was only talking about the relationship between him and the children of Israel.

Do you know what an allegory means?
Religion / Re: Does The Bible Really Condemn Marrying More Than One Wife? by Acehart: 6:41am On Mar 13, 2022
englishmart:
inasmuch as it's expedient to marry just one wife, do you think it would be counted as a sin to marry more than one wife?

I’d like to ask you for your understanding of the word “Sin”; what is Sin?

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Religion / Re: Does The Bible Really Condemn Marrying More Than One Wife? by Acehart: 10:04am On Mar 12, 2022
Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ. - 1 Cor.11:1

The above is a command (with the tone of a plea). Christ is our example and we are told to imitate God.

Did God marry? Yes. The Book of Hosea is an epilogue of God’s marriage: He marries a woman, she is grossly unfaithful and He still loves in spite of her worthlessness. Hosea 3:1 gives a succinct view of God’s view on marriage: “Go and love your wife again, even though she commits adultery with another lover. This will illustrate that the LORD still loves Israel”- one wife for life.

We follow God’s illustration and not the illustration from any man.

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Romance / Re: Am I Not Making A Mistake? by Acehart: 6:44pm On Mar 07, 2022
Ask about the burial rites that will be followed if her mum dies. If you know this, you can carry on with the marriage.
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: I Was Given A Suspension Letter by Acehart: 2:28pm On Mar 07, 2022
Ordinary sorry sir.

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Religion / Re: Christian Brothers And Sisters - Please Advice. by Acehart: 5:53am On Feb 28, 2022
As you make your bed, so you must lie in it.
Family / Re: I See My Wife As Another Man's Wife. by Acehart: 2:17pm On Feb 16, 2022
emezuo17:
. She is seeing another man.

No she is not. He is seeing the future- when he’s gone.

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Religion / Re: Does The Bible Endorse Human Sacrifice? by Acehart: 9:36pm On Feb 07, 2022
NNTR:
Greetings to you too highly regarded

Inasmuch that this is a most unusual take and approach to Jephthah you have above put forward, permit me, to ask you the following questions please:
1. Do you accept it as true, that Jephthah wasnt familiar with and wasnt aware of Deuteronomy 12:31, Deuteronomy 18:10, Leviticus 18:21 and 2 Kings 21:6?
2. Do you believe that, in spite of Jephthah, being familiar with and aware of Deuteronomy 12:31, Deuteronomy 18:10, Leviticus 18:21 and 2 Kings 21:6, he so was still ready, prepared and determined to goes against the grain of Deuteronomy 12:31, Deuteronomy 18:10, Leviticus 18:21 and 2 Kings 21:6?
3. What do you believe, specifically is the action(s), Jephthah took or did, that worked in his favour and what consequently made him get the recognition and qualification to be listed in the 'Faith Hall of Fame', found in Hebrews 11?


'IN THOSE DAYS THERE WAS NO KING IN ISRAEL; EVERY MAN DID WHAT WAS RIGHT IN HIS OWN EYES. '

The text above is very profound. One cannot paraphrase the bolden. The whole book shows that where there is no lawful authority, anarchy reigns supreme. That verse also applies to Jephthah- whether he was familiar with the laws or no, he did what he liked, following his inclination and delusion. Did he have a right to rewrite the Law of Moses? Was he a Levite? Okay! maybe because he wasn’t a Levite, he wanted to institute a parallel law.

Regarding Jephthah’s appearance in Hebrews 11: I remember a discussion about Gideon I had with my late uncle; he said, “for Gideon to remember God’s deeds in times past (when the Angel met him at the winepress), it means Gideon had (justifying) faith in God. This same remembrance by Jephthah (when responding to the King of Ammon) of God’s deed for Israel showed he had (justifying) faith. Faith is the evidence of things one did not witness, right?
Religion / Re: Does The Bible Endorse Human Sacrifice? by Acehart: 6:54pm On Feb 07, 2022
tctrills:
We learn of Jephthah in Judges 11 who sacrificed his daughter. Was it an act of righteousness or murder?

Greetings,

Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the Lord's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
-Judges 11:31(KJV)

It's a good question you asked. But you missed out on something- the meaning of the word "for". I see from your response to some personalities here that you have substituted or given the wrong meaning to the word "for": you have replaced it was the word "as". You say, "I will offer it up as a burnt offering".

The preposition "for" in the Hebrew language has at least 14 translations. The best fit for the verse is בִּמקוֹם, instead of or כְּנֶגֶד, as against. Let's see this example: I will seize your allowances instead of flogging you. Instead here means "to give up (something) for something else" or "part with for some equivalent". Sometimes we use the word in the English language to indicate exchange, swapping, or substitution.

When you understand the full implication of Jephthah's vow, you would conclude that he was rash, and running contrary to the will of God. He wanted to institute his will above God's will. Why do I say this?

1. All burnt offerings from Genesis 2 to Jephthat's day involved the sacrifice of the male firstling of cattle, sheep, or goat- A shadow of the sacrifice of God's firstborn, Christ Jesus. Jephthah tried to be like many men, who substituted something in the stead of the instituted burnt offering laws; Cain was rejected because he offered the fruit of the ground instead of a firstling from the flock, Aaron's sons offered "strange fire" instead of the fire from the altar and paid with their lives, Elijah's altar was destroyed because he offered a burnt offering at Camel instead of Jerusalem, Saul was rejected because he offered an animal (as a sacrifice) from Amalek instead of Bethlehem, and Uzziah was struck with leprosy because he usurped the prerogatives of the priest. I give all these examples to show that God abhorred Jephthah's vow. All levitical ordinances can never be replaced by the will of man.

2. The Bible shows us that God's people offered an animal sacrifice after warfare and according to God's prescription. We see this in the Book of Joshua after Joshua conquered Ai: He built it according to what is written in the Book of the Law of Moses - Joshua 8:31. When Jephthah said, "and I will offer it up for a burnt offering", one would think it referred to an animal. Only until his daughter was seen that one would see the true intention of Jephthah- revenge.

Since he intended to sacrifice a man, perhaps his half-brother, and that wasn't feasible. Then the best way to replace a burnt offering would be to give an equivalent- prevent his daughter from having offspring, as a sacrifice of a young calf is to offer it together with its offspring.
Crime / Re: A Police Officer's Phone Is In My Custody, Should I Return It? by Acehart: 7:31pm On Feb 02, 2022
Take it to the divisional headquarters and make an effort to see one of the top ranking officers. You will be told what to do.
Religion / Re: Why You Should Remain In Nigeria By Deji Yesufu by Acehart: 2:52pm On Jan 22, 2022
It’s a good writeup but it is unconvincing.

When Christ said, “man shall not live by bread alone...but by every word that proceedeth...of God ”. This shows that man is not only a physical being but he is a spiritual being too. What does the body want? Food. What does the spirit yearn for?

Many Nigerians who travel outside our shores aren’t hungry. Many earn as much as 1 million Naira/month here- by no means a meager amount. Many have comfortable parents, and haven’t known what “survival” means all their lives. So why do they leave?

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness: these are among the unalienable rights of all people, according the American Declaration of Independence. This historic document goes on to state, that to ensure these rights, governments are instituted among men. May I ask the following questions?:

1. Are these rights (in the American Declaration of Independence) the yearning of the human spirit? Are these rights the food for the soul?

2. Does our ‘Father’s’ land give these breads to its children? Who in Nigeria has swallowed these breads and found them tasty?

3. Is the picture Psalm 127: 2, In vain you rise early and stay up late, toiling for food to eat, the picture of this Land? If it is, is it right for young lion to lack and suffer hunger? If it isn’t right, is it right for the young lion to see that his progenitors and siblings lack and suffer hunger and not think he will suffer the same fate one day?

There will always be woe to a land where its people call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! That land should sooner be abandoned.

Not all food is for the belly. Eye wey dey cry dey see road.

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Celebrities / Re: Meat Loaf Dies At Age 74 by Acehart: 4:30pm On Jan 21, 2022
Bat out of hell 2 is one of the best CDs I ever had. I’d repeat track 3 and 6 over and over again. I still use track six title to gauge how cars are near me when I look at the inner mirror- it plays it my head every time I reverse.

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Music/Radio / Re: List Of 250 Of The Greatest Nigerian Songs By Naptu2. by Acehart: 5:03pm On Jan 03, 2022
There are a lot of old songs that would topple quite a number on your list.

1. Molue- Too low for Zero
2. Still searching- Bongos Ikwue

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Religion / Re: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Buys New Car For His Barber by Acehart: 11:25pm On Jan 01, 2022
Plantiff:
Fatoyinbo's daughter is wearing an original Balmain polo which starts at 35,000 naira in Nigeria.

She's wearing an original Gucci embroidered sneakers which costs approximately $600.
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You went for the cheaper shoe in the picture.

Religion / Re: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Buys New Car For His Barber by Acehart: 10:54pm On Jan 01, 2022
jornwhite:



Oga you were already making a point why mix it up with fallacy .... a corrolla 2005 toks cost between 2.3 to 2.5m, we know the children are wearing designers buh total of that cannt amount to 70% of 2005 corolla cost. between 25k or 30k you will get that gucci sneakers, no let online fool you

No original ladies sneakers from Gucci is less than $630 (N360,000). Those turkey replicas you see in Lagos Island is 30k.

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Sports / Re: Super Eagles Drop Osimhen & Shehu, Invite Four New Players For AFCON by Acehart: 2:00pm On Dec 31, 2021
Fuckthamods:
Why excuse dennis? What happened? shocked
Also i feel this osimhen covid might be a set up.. Napoli is desperate to keep him from participating in afcon angry

NFF sent the invitation mail very late; while Watford was smarting about whether to magnanimously release him, NFF released a press statement insulting Watford. Due to NFF’s blunder, they exercised their right to not release him (Dennis).

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Romance / Re: How My Ex Humiliated Me On Christmas Eve by Acehart: 9:05pm On Dec 29, 2021
totosucker:
Something tells me that this guy is yours. Don't be quick to reject him yet. You said you love him, so what can you do to help him out of that lifestyle? Who does he respect? His pastor? Can you talk to his pastor or someone he respects. The truth is the guy himself needs help. You have come this far with him. Two years no be two days oo. Instead of just getting mad, why don't you have a heart to heart conversation with him and know how it all started and how it could possibly end.

There is nobody that cannot change. Thank God you discovered it during courtship and not when you were married to him. Something tells me that he will change with the right help and prayers. Cheer up baby. Things will get better

The character of Don Quixote doesn’t suggest that the guy needs help. Don Quixote was a man of sanity and madness. The lady, Gurlfriend, perhaps was his sanity at play, and his madness being...
Romance / Re: How My Ex Humiliated Me On Christmas Eve by Acehart: 8:29pm On Dec 29, 2021
Mercychen:
Okey-dokey.

I wonder where you people meet all these kind of guys.

When they say keep yourself chaste and marry in the Lord, you'll choose to pick from the club.

I hope you've learnt your lesson.
I have met a pastor of RCCG who is gay and he is very discreet about it. If God doesn’t help a lady to escape this misfortune, she can’t even if she gets the FBI to investigate.
Romance / Re: How My Ex Humiliated Me On Christmas Eve by Acehart: 8:26pm On Dec 29, 2021
MufasaLion:


He's probably bisexual.

He isn’t. His bed time shows he isn’t into her.
Romance / Re: A Spiritual Condition Preventing Her From Having Sex With Me by Acehart: 9:48pm On Dec 26, 2021
If your mother’s words did not deliver you, whose words will release you from this bondage?
Romance / Re: Should I Ask Her For A Relationship Or Maintain Our Friendship. Pls Help! by Acehart: 9:29pm On Dec 26, 2021
Don’t date any girl in your hood. If you break that code, you will have yourself to blame.

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