₦airaland Forum

cococandy:
You’ve been waiting? Lol
I promise I’m not trying to put you on the spot.

Aha, no worries. It simply brings to mind the times when we used to engage in heated debates.

Also I asked if most men are pervs not all men. It can’t be all men statistically speaking. Anyway I still think your answer would be No. most men are not pervs.


Anyway the reason why I asked is that it’s intriguing to me to see the people who would define me as a man hater agree with people who think men are generally pervs just because of a mutual dislike of LGBTQ people. Isn’t that amazing?

Do people see you as a man hater? Well, I don't think so. I also don't think they agree that men are generally pervs. People can demand "space" for the sake of proper differentiation and identification or simply for the sake of comfort. Some women are not comfortable with male gynaes and all most or all male doctors do not display public pervasion.

I wanted to know your reasoning path. It seems as though everyone’s reason is a little bit different but you’re all united by that dislike of LGBTQ people.

1) There are people saying men don’t belong in women’s spaces and that’s their reason. By this logic, these set of people should be against marriage because there’s no space that’s more for a woman than her home. Yet she shares it with a man. And FACTUALLY speaking women are at a higher risk of being harmed by the men in their lives than by any other person. This is a fact not my opinion. So where have all the “men don’t belong in women’s spaces” folks been the whole time that women have been getting married? Many have been getting harmed by their intimate partners and we are not hearing men don’t belong in women’s spaces?

2) For those who are against it because of religious reasons. Why don’t we see them equally incensed about other sins? They relate fine with all other kinds of sinners. sometimes they even praise and exalt murderers, scammers, deceivers and what not. I mean the list goes on. Personally this group irks me more than the “men don’t belong in women’s spaces” group because the first group is actually operating on some sort of sensible logic.

3) Also, are the hardline misogynists going to become best friends with radical feminists over trans issues? I Would love to see that happen. Will the men stop thinking that women are subhuman or will the radical feminists decide to throw in the towel and say you know what, we are fine with being beneath men if it unites us against trans people? 🤔

Interesting reasoning paths. This classification goes to show that there are multifaceted reasons why people say that a man should not aspire to be a woman and vice versa. Your classification does not cover all the reasoning paths though but let me address point 1 and 2.

1. I believe their notion of "space" transcends the literal or physical meaning of space. I've seen people say that "let kids be kids." Should kids avoid adults' physical spaces? Kids obviously need adult parents for nurturing. Adults also need adults for the purposes of procreation or/and romantic companionship.

Procreation cannot happen without the anatomical and physiological properties of the two opposite sexes. Romantic companionship should not happen between same sexes unless something is mentally wrong. And this is where I stand. Mental problems should be treated not validated with laws. Why do we have illnesses like multiple personality disorders if people can be whatever they feel?

2. As much as some individuals praise scammers and other sinners, we all can agree that not many will outright demands laws that enable scam and other related sins. Committing a sin knowing that it is a sin is still reasonable and pardonable. This is why some sins are pardonable. People who see theft as doing good need psychological assistance.

CuriousStudent:
lol. Stop trying to lump me with you. Besides I don't have "exes" that are Nigeria neither was I hurt by a naija man in dating.

Have you had personal experience with LGBTQ that has formed your hateful prejudice?
I don't like naija men,I avoid them and stay clear off them. Is it the same with homophobes obsession and call for the ostracization of LGBTQ? And bolstering for laws against them?

In other words, you hate naija men?? You keep pushing the "hateful" narrative after I had told you that I don't hate them. I only pity them because they are people with disabilities and I wish our scientists can come up with necessary regimens. After all, we have effective drugs for brain disorders like multiple personality disorders. A man who feel like a woman is another dimension of multiple personality disorder. I won't validate brain disorders.

I don't have alternate monikers, who am I afraid of? A forum with the ugliest and poorest of men? Lol

I see. You can't hide your hatred for Naija men after all.

You don't need to know or understand. Focus on you and your life. You can go about your daily life, minding your business and focusing on those around you that matter.

This is how I live my life daily. I have never assaulted or called for assaults against any g.ay person and I don't intend to do such. However, I have boundaries, which include my perception of right and wrong, good and evil. To a large extent, the prevailing laws in my country of resident align with the expectations of the majority. That's all that matters. Laws are not meant to resonate with everyone equally. If majority says no, then let their "no" be "no." We have laws against polygamy even though some people want it.

The problem I have with you is that you impose a position on your opponent with the sole aim of accusing them of having that position.
For LGBTQ,stop calling a dog a wolf because you want to kill it. It is devious and dishonest.how can a dead person give consent to sex? Where has LGBTQ endorsed it? From my check necrophilia is more common with straight men than anyone else.

You are being really unfair

I am not being unfair. Trying to understand your boundaries is not the same as being unfair to my opponent. All I mentioned was that those making LGBTQ laws can wake up tomorrow to enact another law to support necrophilia and sex with inanimate objects. You talked about the issue of consent and I clearly told you that the meaning of consent (is man-made), which means what you know to be consent today can change tomorrow. People marry trees and crocodiles (I'm sure you have seen the recent thread on NL frontpage where a mayor married a crocodile). And they'll obviously need someone like you someday to support them with laws.

I applaud you for your brave acts.
You didn't give details of the male breastfeeding. I honestly assumed that an gay couple got injected with drugs to stimulate breast milk for their baby-as we were talking about gay marriage as of the time you brought that up

Okay. Cleared.

Shows the hypocrisy and filth in the hearts of you homophobes,all for the protection of masculinity?
The fragile ego of men speaking. Always suspicious people are out to get them or take something from them. Can't you be masculine enough for yourself and let other men be?
Always knew your intentions were never just,the fact alone that no homophobes gives a clear-cutting answer as regards the threat of LGBTQ.
How exhausting it most be to be hide under the cloak of sanitizing the society with your fake morality,one day people will get to say you all as you really are.

I don't have a problem masculinity as I am conservative/traditional myself. Masculinity is strength, valor, bravery and stoic. It becomes toxic when monkeys from third world with big mouths, empty pockets and empty brains gossip and prattle ,with their ugly heads. Oh, such an eye sore to behold. That is toxic masculinity.

People have given several clear cut reasons, you just can't see them because of your perception and prejudices. But why do you want monkeys from third world countries with big mouths and empty pockets to enact homosexuality laws?

I also see confusion here. No traditional woman will demand that men get their chest pumped up with breast milk or their a$$ inflated with fat.

cococandy:
Acidosis what say you?
Are most men perverts?

I've been waiting for this

According to dictionary definition, a perve.rt is a person whose sexual behavior is considered not normal or acceptable.

Going by this definition, all men are not perverts.

Favour has located her.

JAMB is definitely culpable here. Nobody can manipulate JAMB portal without the help of an insider. So to accuse a 16 year old girl of fraud is to say that your employees are fraudulent. At what point was the score manipulated? Was it a cyber cafe manipulation? If you're saying yes to this, why then does the QR code on her result produce different results and names at different times (an issue she clearly reported to the exam board in Anambra)? JAMB don jam wahala and they know it.

Why should anyone be surprised sef?? JAMB don dey leak exam questions since the early 90s. Are those questions also forged? By who? An organisation where snake swallows money is capable of anything, including fraud and incompetence.

The immoral insight from this whole wahala is that employees of JAMB collect money from some candidates to forge and manipulate scores. These employees are certainly responsible for the technical glitch. Another painful insight is that innocent candidates may have been awarded erroneous scores.

CuriousStudent:
It doesn't, because of what prejudice makes you do. Call for ostracization and punishment of those you don't accept . I have not dated a Nigerian man in almost a decade,but it ends there. Can same be said of homophobes?

No, it doesn't end there. This is clearly prejudice at work. Using your experience with one or two exes to blackmail Nigerian men is prejudice/bigotry

You are disappointing me,but I am not surprised,bigotry makes the wise lose it at times.
Hairy balls makes a couple unfit for parenting? My God! I just can't even.

How am I disappointing you? Maybe you should reveal your main moniker. Again, parenting isn't about the numbers. 35 men with hairy balls cannot take the role a biological man and woman.

No offense but you were talking like one who isn't educated.no offence

Well, no one is all-knowing. I do not pride myself to know why a 40 year old man should transition into a woman.

I didn't,so far as consent is there. You spoke about prison inmates,in that context it is mostly forceful.

You are okay with sodomy and necrophilia in so far as people can justify consent? I hope you're aware that the consent construct can be reconstructed by the same brains behind LGBTQ+ to include dead bodies and inanimate objects?? You don't seem to have boundaries.

My God! Nourishing a child with milk that is healthy is child abuse?a privilege most babies deserve?

Hairy balled men masquerading as women produce breast milk? Why the exclamation? You haven't seen pictures of hairy balled men force-feeding babies with their hairy dry nippl.e.s? I stumbled on one on Twitter today. Of course, I reported and blocked the mf.

That explains why LGBTQ hatred is always targeted at gay's not lesbians. I knew there was something related to the favorism of lesbians over gay's.

Yes. Men and women who are anti-ga.yz largely direct their prejudice toward g.ay men because of traditional masculinity ideology. You have a problem with that, yeah? Of course I expect you to read masculinity as "toxic masculinity."

So this is why you hate LGBTQ,fear of emasculation of men.wow.

Lol. Hate? No I don't hate them. Like polio, trans is a disability/birth deformity as far as I know. We need our scientists to get to work and find appropriate regimens for them. As for those transitioning due to life experiences, what they need is counselling not validation.

Can't you allow men be? Since we allow them go for who they wish(multiple women,virgin,young, feminine),we should allow them make choices on their bodies and sexuality

Wow, you allow men go for what they want, including multiple women? That's new. Name one LGBTQ country that allows (with full backing of the law) polygamy. You have 10 years to provide an answer.

Ishilove:
I watched a video. The man in the video said put 50 heterosexual people together in a a remote Island for 20 years, and put 50 homosexual people on another remote Island for the same 20 years. After the time has elapsed return to both Islands. The Island with the heterosexual people will have 1,000 people, while the Island with the homosexuals will have lots of graves and only half of the original population.

Absolutely correct.

CuriousStudent:
Teenage pregnancy involves minor. Live and let live doesn't apply to minors. They are obvious consequences to teenage pregnancy. I pointed the hypocrisy of society as regards them,they don't care about the health complications and the rest or the girl dropping out of school, but they are only concerned of the pregnancy out of wedlock,hence if the girl was married at 15, there is no problem. The foundation of judging right and wrong is sometimes flawed.

Everyone has prejudices, if you have read my posts,I have much prejudices against naija men. Lol. The problem is what you do with your prejudice,allow it make it treat people unjustly or guide you as part of your values?

This settles it then..

No we are not. Society says no sex till marriage ,people have sex. Society frowns at prostitution, and other things, but we do it by the way, why single out LGBTQ?

Depends on the societal divide. I have seen more Nairalanders promote sex before marriage compared to abstinence. And yes, I agree that some divide frown against these things but the fact that people engage in them does not justify legal validation. Laws and enactments have far-reaching consequences.

going by this couples who chose to remain childless are defaulting? Many straight couples are rejecting and shunning marriage and childbirth if LGBTQ refuse to get married in other not to alter marriage Institution, they have not faulted. Yes?

LGBTQ shouldn't even be discussing marriage. Marriages are for biological men and women. Childbirth is for biological female.

obviously Lawrence aneni the criminal, and others that were part of the family tree will not agree with.
Family tree is your problem not good and loving parents who are decent and earn well to give you the best of life?
.My God! Please give the phone back to acidiosis, this is not him chatting.

Loving parents? What parents? Two grown men with hairy balls? Anybody can be rich and poor. That is not the context of the matter. We can deal with poverty issues separately without dragging hairy balled men into the discussion.

Damn!
I can't dignify this with a response.

Why?

I believe you refer to sodomy. Sodomy is not the same with LGBTQ. Sodomy is anal sex, like MouthAction they are sexual acts not limited to gay's. The idea that anyone who performs sodomy is gay is wrong. Many straight people do it. Calling inmates gay's for practicing sodomy is quiet unfair.

So, are you saying that sodomy is wrong? You want to discriminate against sodomites? Sodomites' and necrophiliacs' rights should be protected too, don't you think?

Says the people that can't swallow their opinions. are you guys not always ferrociously attacking the west for their choices? Everyday townhall gossip about gays, women, single moms and the rest
Are we pretending that it is homophobes who can't let people live and let live want to be left alone?
Advice your brothers and sisters that spend their productive years dissecting and grumbling about western affairs with their scurvy fingers first

Towhall gossip about g.ayz, women, and single moms? Why do you feel the need to include women and single moms? The idea of homosexuality is to emasculate men, isn't? Get men with d-ks to breastfeed babies (child abuse), then empower women to celebrate father's day? Trying to deal with patriarchy with a greater problem?? Nice.

Determining who enters your country is a law against humanity? Lol

I don't recall purchasing any country. I was merely born here. If individuals have the ability to change their gender based on their personal feelings and identity, then it would be reasonable to grant a Nigerian who identifies as an American the opportunity to obtain a green card without stress or game of chance (lottery).

It seems that the process of transitioning a complex biological issue like one's gender is made relatively simple, whereas matters related to nationality should be cumbersome and complicated for the everly disenfranchised black man from Africa.

CuriousStudent:
I expected a precise answer like "they turn out to be criminals", or do this and that etc.

As to your question,it doesn't affect me as a person.
Or what tangible reason does society have against them except that it is outside the norm? They will tolerate 14 year old giving birth in wedlock to a child in poverty even if she develops uterus prolapse but a 28 year old banker who is financially, emotionally and physically ready to have a child will be opposed because its out of wedlock.

I can only advise that a teenager waits till she is financialy,emotionally and physically well stable. Not that I will grimace angrily because it affects me. She owes her self and her child(Ren) the best life. I will not truculently harass or defame a teenage parent but advise them or sensitize on the risks (yes they are risks to the child and parent, unlike transgender whose risk or threat is that they look unnatural)

Own it,accept your prejudice masked as societal values. It is because it seems on unnatural to you. That is their offence. That is the mark of a savage or a cave man,what I can't fathom I will attack. If you can't fathom it,it's fine,let it remain mysterious and ignored instead of being the extra mouth for "society" under whose banner you propagate your prejudice.

Don't get me wrong I believe they are threats they pose ( transmen taking over transwomen sport,and the rest which should be addressed sternly) but simply because your society hates it or it seems Unnatural is not a wise to me.

I don't even want to talk about the prejudice of homophobes towards LGBTQIA. It's always gay's not lesbians . Ask any homophobe and they will tell you that two women making out is tolerable but two men kissing is disgusting..

Needless to say LGBTQ as with every form of sexuality should be monitored for potential risk to the society (as we have seen heterosexual unions are not better or immune from risks like rape, Gender based violence, divorce,single parenting,child marriage, births of children that ended up becoming nuisance to the society etc), not just what seems Unnatural or because it's not in our culture.

We borrow the white man God,his books,his technology,but scorn them for what we believe they tolerate.

The standard of what to accept as right or wrong should be evaluated-for those with an enlightened mind ready to think for themselves and not just be pawns of a society. Alot of us live in the traditions of dead men.

The worst that could happen to a human is unadaptation,it broods resentment in an ever evolving life.

Whether we like it or not but things have come to change,and will continue to change, we can only be angry or go about our usual lives minding out business

Your explanation about teenage pregnancy is not clear. On one hand, you advise kids to be emotionally stable before marriage (that in itself is a prejudice/bias because some teenagers are actually smarter than adults). On the other hand, you believe teenage pregnancy exists anyway, so how about we include teenage pregnancy in our laws? You see, prejudices will remain for as long as humanity exists.

The way you react or feel when you see a healthy and pregnant 15 year old girl is the same way another man will react when they see gays doing stuff publicly. Everyone is simply doing what society tells them to do (and that includes you and the trans community). There is no such thing as having an independent thought or mindset. Every thing you know or believe was picked up somewhere.

Well to answer your question: traditionally, marriage and procreation have always been inseparable, implying that the primary purpose that marriage serves is to secure a father and mother for each child. Institutionalising same-sex marriage will further destroy the procreative norm. I am sure you know that countries that legalised same-sex marriage have some of the lowest fertility rates in the world. Where do they turn to when they need people to do their jobs and take care of their aging demography?? The same so called "homophobic countries."

Same-sex couples intentionally "birth" children without biological fathers and mothers; covertly destroying the traditional family tree; creating future biases and prejudices for these children while still claiming to fight prejudices.

Meanwhile, on one hand, you want fathers to be responsible for their biological children. On the other hand, you are using same-sex marriage to reinforce the idea that children do not need both their mother and their father.

I am surprised you identified an issue in the context of sporting activities. I just wish you would extend that logic to boarding schools and correctional centres. I also hope that when next you see a biological man without bress trying to breastfeed a baby, you will pity the child because that is clearly a case of child abuse.

If certain countries say that they are against reconstructing their notion of gender, please respect their choices too. There is no society without certain prejudices (some hide it under protection laws). Till tomorrow, America will continue to release immigration laws to checkmate the excesses of immigrants. That is a bias against humanity.

CuriousStudent:
You failed to answer my question. What are these threat we are talking about? Death to society? Disease or what to society? Like
Some negative thing that may occur to us and we should be wary of.

How does teenage pregnancy affects you as a person? Why are teenagers banned/discouraged from getting pregnant considering the FACT that pregnancy in older women poses more threats than teenage pregnancy?

The answer you provide to the above will inform my answer to your question.

Nazgul:
What part of Nigeria do you stay?

Somewhere in Lagos.

CuriousStudent:
Just asking
How does transgender affect the society at large?

Transgenders affect the society at large because d**ks are not meant for another d*ck. When a d*ck begins to lust after another d*ck, that is clearly a deformity, not "another gender."

Like I acknowledge earlier, transgenders (due to hormonal deformities) are probably here to stay forever. But I don't see the transgender thing as "another gender" that needs to be institutionalised in every aspect of society. I consider them as people with disabilities. Disability is not a threat.

The real threats are those transitioning due to early life experiences or experiences in adulthood, implying that anyone can become a transgender.

GoodLife4live:
only zonbidense reason like u...

Profile solution...

Tell that old fool terrorist apologist to protest in the east against Monday sit at home and bad leadership parading the igboland First

So how will protesting in the east help you as a cursed Nigerian with self-inflicted 3rd-degree igbophobia??

The idea of using human rights (i.e., live and let live) as a basis for justifying every act of man is heavily flawed though. Human rights is never absolute. Even if a person's rights do not conflict with the rights of others, certain rights can conflict with the broader interests of society. The broader interests of society is why people under 21 are banned from buying/taking alcohol. Is it [human] right to ban children from having sex? No! However, adults had to trample on children's rights with some "age of consent" gibberish for the broader interests of society. We create needless ethical dilemmas when we fail to consider the broader societal interests.

It shouldn't really matter whether people are born ga..y., the interest of the larger society should be considered in all human dealings. Some people are born to steal after all (kleptomaniacs). We shouldn't, because of their innate nature (mental health and brain distortion issues actually), allow stealing become a norm. Imagine making one law or the other for every human phobia or pervasions (resulting from some birth distortions)?

Making certain laws for a select few and their sexual choices is a bit too much. The select few, at all cost, should covertly engage in their act or seek treatment when possible for the sake of the larger society. After all l.£sbians have lived among and with us for centuries and no one, as far as I know, is calling for their heads. But naah, societies shouldn't be fighting tooth and nail to promote another gender (a deformity). For those who don't like the religious path, let l£s.bianism be done covertly, akin to other consensual activities like thre.some or fo.ur.some. But naah, we aint making laws for this. We should know and accept the differences between nature and deformity/pervasions. Any other gender that isn't male or female is clearly a deformity or pervasion.

GoodLife4live:
I can not destroy my beloved country because of one pathological lieing religion bigoted Personified / nzugbu nzugbu polician from one dead akpu region ....

I reject your call zombidients...

You don't have to. Politicians are already doing that on behalf of your docile self. That's why you're buying a litre of fuel for N500 and exchanging a dollar for N750.

By the time they're done with you, na only you and yourself go carry placard begin one-man protest for street.

folake4u:
I was joking. I'm not interested.

That false prophet must not see this 🙄

GloriousGbola:
this may or may not work

ferret out the emails of their divisional managers . and start a mail trail where you complain. send follow ups. then add consumer protection. ferret out emails of ogas at the top - add them too. finally, send email to the ceo. the mail trail is there. i had an issue years ago. they were giving me the run around. when i finally copied their oga at the top, they all started running around like headless chickens and the issue was sorted.

This is real work o but I will definitely make an attempt. How do I get the emails of ogas at the top (division)? I'm not sure they leave such info on the company's (IKEDC) website. I will do some online search tonight. Maybe via LinkedIn.

Thank you, boss. 🙏🙏

Dexpro:
Bia be kiafu ooo...

Schweppes I was about going to take from the freezer?

Power issues has been a headache lately.

Naija just dey zigzag

Boss, that drink go pass 30 for Poco's house. Some no dey inside fridge. It will go round.

pocohantas:
How can you be a Nigerian and not think of dropping money for malt?

Come and take the Schweppes. You go need run am water. I am sure it would have soft ice in it.

I know right. Problem be say I hardly see them around. They've only visited 2-3 times since I moved in (year 2020) for routine checks..

I nor mind oo.. Hot water go run am sef.. 🙏🙏🙏

pocohantas:
Crazy. You guys should organise a meeting wuth them. I know we tip them a lot here. Sad, but this is Nigeria. You have to keep giving money for malt. I get very irritable when my freezer isn't very frozen. So, I am super-excited as it is.

Oh really? I've never thought about this.. Thank youu.. I go post am for our WhatsApp group.

I can relate with the irritable feeling, especially seeing drops of water everywhere 😭

Abeg keep one bottle of Schweppes for me make I use am hold bodi first 😀

pocohantas:
0 to 1 hour ke? Person for your street break NEPA Chairman heart? How are you preserving your food @ N500 a litre ?

I don send DM tire on Twitter o. Not a single response. At the community level, we are trying to understand and, possibly, get them to resolve the issues.

I don't have a choice o. I use gen to keep the fridge cold. Power banks here and there and a laptop with solid battery life helps with work.

pocohantas:
Wow. How many hours a day?

12 hours max. Some days, 0-1 hour.


It used to be 20-24 hours daily.

Daniel7543:
If we see good things, make we dey talk.
Electricity don improve.

May God Bless President Tinubu

In your state/street abi? Electricity was better here in 2021/2022. The current situation in my place of residence is the worst I have seen in 2 decades.

She's to blame. In fact, she's an accomplice since the money, according to you, belong to someone.

Why is she sending out OTP in this age and time?

folake4u:
Yeah. I guess so.

Oh well

folake4u:
Yoruba? Interesting.

You don't sound like one.

Ahh...Really? I guess my political choices influenced that thought.

folake4u:
All these men sef.

I'm sure you're an igbo man.

Nope. Why?


I'm a fake Yoruba man. I no get "yoruba ronu card"

descarado:
Didn't see this.
No more divine healing.
He is tired of deceiving his congregation

Ever heard the phrase "balm of gilead"?

Medicine is biblical.

GloriousGbola:
So acidosis is a member of small geh like big gbola geng

🧌👹😈

No oh I am only grooming her

folake4u:
Smh. Don't play me.

Wait oo. Dem never release the phone sef. So chill...

The phone go be like 1.5 million when dem release am.

folake4u:
Ehen na. No shi shi gum me.

I nor dey upload anything until you buy me iPhone and Caprisun.

I go buy you Caprisun When you clock 18, we will talk about the other one