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PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 6:50pm On May 28, 2013
Ola Johnson: Indeed you read for wanting to make me believe that officers killed are different from casualties.
. . .and your point is. . .?
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10:
Ola Johnson: Your continued insistence that I tell you the page(s), even after I gave you a cue that could lead you to them, only shows how worse the dying culture of reading could be. I find it difficult to believe that after telling you that you can find the quote in the part of the book where the officers that were killed and others are, you still can't find it. I won't tell you the page(s). Not now. If you still insist, I'll direct you to another book, "The Five Majors - Why They Struck" by A. M. Mainasara, pg 25, where the same quote is made. Thank you.
C'mon shut up! Are you not ashamed of yourself? I caught you committing a blatant act of intellectual dishonesty, yet you have the audacity to accuse me of poor reading culture. You were betting on our poor reading culture when you made that quote, hoping that you wont be caught. You must be a professor of metamorphosis, because the way you metamorphosized Ben Gbulie to Mainasara is nothing short of miracle. I bet that you will change your stance if I lay my hand on Mainasara's book. In case you've not read Five Major by Ben Gbulie, there is no chapter, where he discussed about the officers killed, he only listed the names of the casualties. I was surprised by your quote because the book painted the picture of Gen. Ironsi as eminently qualified and called Brigadier Ademulegun "an accomplished tribalist"(pg. 21). You are still shamelessly digging your hole. I once again challenge you to provide the page for your quote in Ben Gbulie's Five Majors.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 6:32am On May 28, 2013
Ola Johnson: "Major-General Johnson Thompson Umunnakwe Aguiyi Ironsi was the General Officer Commanding the Nigerian Army. A hard-drinking, slow-speaking introvert who had risen from the ranks, and had been trained at Eaton Hall and Camberley Staff College, he was however considered both inept and inefficient-hardly the calibre of officer to command an army. In fact, the coup planners considered him unfit to command even a funeral detail". Those were the words Ben Gbulie in his book, Nigeria's Five Majors, used to describe your "excellent soldier".
Dishonest Ola Johnson, provide the page in Ben Gbulie's "Five Majors" for the above quote?
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10:
Ola Johnson: Make I no fall your hand, right? Who tell you to carry your hand up?
This thread should not be derailed. We are still on CA.
hahaha, bros you are a born chameleon. Imagine a derailer-in-chief cautioning someone that has been on topic all the while?

Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to provide the page of your Five Majors quote.
PoliticsRe: Femi Fani-kayode Dumps PDP For APC by ACM10:
APC - All PDP Cast-offs
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10:
ACM10: @Johnson,
can you quote the page from the book "Five Majors? I have it here with me.
Mr Johnson, I have already established that you are biased. Don't make me question your integrity. Respond to the above.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10:
eagle,eye:
Ola the onus is on you to quote..... and not for him to search.
The problem is that the said quote does not exist in the book.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10:
Ola Johnson: Search it yourself, where he described those that were killed.
One of the issues I have with posters here bothers on integrity. Posters here are fond of making a non-existent quotes to win an argument. Don't doubt me, I have my personal copy of Ben Gbulie's book here with me. Just direct me to the page.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 10:02pm On May 27, 2013
Ola Johnson: Search it yourself, where he described those that were killed.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 9:29pm On May 27, 2013
ACM10: @Johnson,
can you quote the page from the book "Five Majors? I have it here with me.
PoliticsRe: Femi Fani-kayode Dumps PDP For APC by ACM10: 7:26pm On May 27, 2013
Nomadic politician and pro.stitute on the move in search of greener pasture
PoliticsRe: Ex-minister Fani-kayode Dumps PDP, Joins APC by ACM10: 7:13pm On May 27, 2013
Nomadic politician and pro.stitute is on migration again
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10:
You are being silly, disingenious and mischievous. What prevented the successive administrations including Obasanjo's regime from reversing the decree put in place by Ironsi if they considers it seriously flawed? Why move further to make the decree permanent?

Aigbofa: It took your man a stroke of the pen to undo what was carefully negotiated by people who were far more capable than he was. Do you think these things are changeable like you change your hair do? That is why it was such a great error of judgement on his part. So much for Igbo superior administrative ability.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10:
@Johnson,
can you quote the page from the book "Five Majors? I have it here with me.
PoliticsRe: Uduaghan Had Health Challenges by ACM10: 9:15am On May 27, 2013
In essence, he had stroke. My sympathy. Though I doubt his fitness to continue on the job. He was slow on the job and am afraid that things might grind to a halt
PoliticsRe: Members Of APGA Defect To APC In Anambra by ACM10: 8:38pm On May 26, 2013
Ok we don hear. It does not change the political equation in Anambra state. Those political pros,titutes are afterall nonentities
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 2:31pm On May 26, 2013
Ola Johnson: The presence of CameroonPride on this thread has really helped. It has given the reasonable among us the opportunity to know how popular CA was in other African countries, especially the French speaking ones. Language could be a barrier. But in French speaking countries, this has little or no adverse effect because English Language is sometimes made compulsory for students. Does it surprise you that whenever the president of any French speaking is in Nigeria or the president of Nigeria is in their country they speak English Language even better their our President? That is the power of language. I learnt that in an inaugural lecture in the university.
SMH SMH SMH
Just to win an argument against Igbos, you are teaming up with an avowed Nigeria hater. How shortsighted can you get?
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 12:04pm On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: you called the francophone system the worst in the world im just pointing out that they francophone(French) created what you call school today.."charllemagne is the father of school"
You are guilty of the same crime you are accusing us of. What of schools. What of schools during Greek and Roman era?
PoliticsRe: Jonathan's Name Has Brought Good-Luck To Nigeria by ACM10: 11:46am On May 26, 2013
musiwa26: grin
Even Musiwa dey laff
PoliticsRe: Jonathan's Name Has Brought Good-Luck To Nigeria by ACM10: 11:45am On May 26, 2013
grin
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 10:27am On May 26, 2013
Dude, you have issues with consistency. Now listen to yourself.

CAMEROONPRIDE: I can post several authors being called father of Africa litterature? Where do you place Leopold sedate senghor or Aime cesaire? One of them reached the French Academy ..
CAMEROONPRIDE: Anyway what do you mean by Father of Africa literature? Did he influence people style? I'm talking about known/famous people. ..there are more francophone countries than Anglophone ones in Africa and most don't know Achebe.
CAMEROONPRIDE: This should simply tell you that no Author is the father of Africa literature...since we are not one and have never been one...
CAMEROONPRIDE: Achebe is not well known in the francophone world/outside the Anglophone world hence my tag(local champion)

Beside you didn't deny that he's more popular than achebe.
CAMEROONPRIDE: Mention them, the non nigerian, go ahead. I don't need to study Achebe since you claim to know a lot about him, please enlighten me....
CAMEROONPRIDE: Which non Nigerian authors did he influence? Or acknowledge him as source of inspiration?
CAMEROONPRIDE: if you have nothing to say you shut your mouth and learn how to read,

For the last time, chinua achebe is popular in the Anglophone world. Period does that mean he's not popular?
CAMEROONPRIDE: Your source are not what I call the most reliable, do you expect his students and agent to say something else? huh Or you want me to post others authors(African) receiving the same praises?
I'm on my phone so give me their nationalities., I guess you missed the part I said non Nigerian and Anglophone.

Anyway I'm tired of this back and forth...
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 10:12am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: simply quote my first two comments on this thread, that's all, you are blinded by your bigotry that's all.

One of the highest selling book, link? Novels or books because if you say books that means all kind of book and I say no anyway provide a link
Firstly, ask Heinemann press of how many copies of Things Fall Apart they have sold. Secondly I have provided link on the number of languages Things Fall Apart has been translated into. Just go through this thread.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 10:07am On May 26, 2013
^

Did you read your link on Leopold Senghor? Do you think that we are intellectually lazy like you?
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 9:35am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: i left more countries where at least 50% of the pop speak and understand French.



Anyway... I m waiting for you answers.

What was his style? How was it different from his predecessors?

Which non Nigerian authors did he influence? Or acknowledge him as source of inspiration?
Achebe's fiction and criticism continue to inspire and influence writers around the world. Hilary Mantel, the Booker Prize-winning novelist in a May 7, 2012 article in Newsweek, "Hilary Mantel's Favorite Historical Fictions", lists Things Fall Apart as one of her five favorite novels in this genre. A whole new generation of African writers - Caine prize winners Binyavanga Wainaina (current director of the Chinua Achebe Center at Bard College) and Helon Habila (Waiting for an Angel [2004] and Measuring Tme [2007])
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His eminence worldwide was rivaled only by Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Toni Morrison and a handful of others. Achebe was a moral and literary model for countless Africans and a profound influence on such American writers as Morrison, Ha Jin and Junot Diaz.
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"It would be impossible to say how 'Things Fall Apart' influenced African writing," the African scholar Kwame Anthony Appiah once observed. "It would be like asking how Shakespeare influenced English writers or Pushkin influenced Russians. Achebe didn't only play the game, he invented it."
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Achebe's writing triggered a revolution in fiction which continues to this day. By presenting the world and history as seen through different eyes, he gave voice to the previously unheard. Achebe inspired writers in both Africa and elsewhere to tell their stories, most notably African-American Nobel Laureate Toni Morrison.
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PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 9:06am On May 26, 2013
Pls we are discussing Achebe here. I wont indulge you again in discussing about the dying french language.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 9:04am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: French is dominant , simply because it is used in most countries and in 3different geographic zone.

I can go whenever I want and don't have to learn the.. language.
And if you check well you will see that Nigeria has French as one of her official language.
Official language on paper. How many Nigerians can say "hello" in french? LOL
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 9:02am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: Mauritanie
Senegal
Mali
Benin
Togo
Burkina Faso
Niger
Chad
Cameroun
Gabon
Cote d'ivoire
Guinnee conakry
CAR
Congo brazza
Congo Kinshasa
Algeria
Madagascar
Rwanda
Burundi.
Djibouti
Maroc
equatorial guinea
Dude sum up their pop and come back to me.lol
Sum the population of those countries and compare it to that of Anglophone countries
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:52am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: Cameroon infonet is a forum.

And I'm talking about Africa..how many African speak Chinese huh huh, so because they changed Their official language that means French is not used and the French speaker suddenly disappeared? lipsrsealed undecided lipsrsealed, stop fighting the obvious, French is the most dominant/widely spoken Western language in Africa. BTW read before replying and don't like to repeat myself.
Dominant in what respect? Combined population of Cameroon, Benin, Ivory Coast, Senegal, Burkina faso, Gabon is not up to Nigeria's population. Now tell me why you think that French is the dominant language in Africa?
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:48am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: one if Africa's literary icon now means father of Africa literature? Dude you are funny. What made achebe famous is your pop size and your diaspora. He didn't do anything special huh huh, I keep asking why the father of Africa literature tag? What was his style? Who did he influence? Are people(non Nigerian) citing achebe in example when the write their own books huh huh
Pls pick one of Achebe's work in french translation to study his style of writing. You have to do little homework before you debate on Achebe. I need not start mentioning authors who claimed that Achebe influenced them.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:42am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: They all started writing almost at the same time which is during and post the colonial era, so there's no problem of keyword here..the people I listed I known all over the francophone world and even the Anglophone world..there's is No way one can put Senghor or aime cesaire below Achebe. Anyway what do you mean by Father of Africa literature? Did he influence people style? I'm talking about known/famous people. Not to blow my own trumpet but tho born and raised in Cameroon I have been to France, and read a lot about Africa literature we even have a cultural French center in Cameroon and I stand by statement..there are more francophone countries than Anglophone ones in Africa and most don't know Achebe.
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CAMEROONPRIDE: French is the dominant Western language in Africa and French litterature is one of the richest if not the richest in the world, BTW their work are translated, I don't want to turn the thread into a competition but the fact you never heard of them doesn't mean they don't exist. This should simply tell you that no Author is the father of Africa literature...since we are not one and have never been one...
I don't know how you reached that conclusion. The entire Cameroon population is just half of Igbo population in Nigeria. Rwanda changed their official language from French to English due to their inability to present seminars in international conference which is often done in English. Chinese is more popular than French on the international arena. Just like I said previously, you are on your own if you heard about Chinua Achebe later in life. Chinua Achebe is a household name in African literature. The headline from one of the Cameroon newspapers can attest to that fact.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:29am On May 26, 2013
[size=28pt]Big Lost: Africa’s Literary Icon Chinua Achebe is Dead![/size]

Yaoundé, 22 Mars 2013
© Valentine MULANGO | Cameroon-Info.Net 43 Réactions

One of Africa's literary icon and publisher of several novels, Nigeria’s Chinua Achebe, is dead. Mr. Achebe, 82, died in the United States where he was said to have suffered from an undisclosed ailment. PREMIUM TIMES, learnt he died last night (Thursday March 21) in a hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, United States.
http://www.cameroon-info.net/stories/0,43150,@,big-lost-africa-s-literary-icon-chinua-achebe-is-dead.html
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:27am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: Go back to my first posts on the thread, I clearly said that before the USA I didn't know the dude(Im in the USA for uni)
, .what's your point? Who cares if they are friends? The truth is Senghor is more popular than achebe
Now you have crawled out of your shell. I think you should do your diick-measuring contest with ola.

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