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PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:24am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: http://www.unc.edu/depts/europe/francophone/negritude/eng/african-literature.pdf

^^^ read more here.

When people talk about literature, they talk about

Aime cesaire
Senghor
Ferdinand Leopold oyono
Bigaro Diop
Mongo Beti
Camara laye
I can add a lot more , I bet you don't know any of them, same way I didnt know achebe before NL and the US cool.

Anyway my best Anglophone author remains Wole sonyinka.

I'm still discovering Achebe tho
It's nice to promote the francophone authors for the mere fact that french is one of the official languages in your country. But your exercise is a futile attempt if their works can't do it for them. Let their work break the language barrier and achieve multiple language translations.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:18am On May 26, 2013
Ola Johnson: Mention one person, just one person, that later adopted it.
The news media adopted it. They influence your thought. If it was not adopted, why do Achebe's name pop up whenever it is searched on google?
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:15am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: because the claim is bogus, you should ask yourself, why he himself didnt want to bear that title.
Achebe was being gracious. I bet that Soyinka would have accused him of arrogance if he had accepted the title.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:14am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: Stop lying to yourself, we have the same program inside Cemac so I know for sure that his book is not used in Gabon. Anyway that wasn't even the point , the point is he is not the father of anything, esp not Africa litterature....no one is denying his popularity but in the Anglophone world look out of +10frabcophone countries you only listed three ...and Cameroon which is bilingual doesn't even use his books? huh huh huh Most countries in Africa using achebe books in primary schools simply don't have authors huh huh huh, i read achebe in uni in my culture and value class an it was optional huh undecided

I can post several authors being called father of Africa litterature? Where do you place Leopold sedate senghor or Aime cesaire? One of them reached the French Academy ..
Why are you talking with both sides of your mouth? You claimed that Achebe was a local champion, now you have made a 1800 u-turn with "no one is denying his popularity". You claimed you don't know Achebe, now you are admitting to using his book. By the way, Achebe is called "father of modern African literature". Modern is the catchword there. Soyinka made that mistake. BTW, Leopold Senghor is the former president of Senegal and a close friend of Achebe. Both are activists in Negritude movement.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 7:56am On May 26, 2013
Nadine Gordimer is one of the judges that awarded Achebe The Man Booker International Prize in 2007. Nadine also called Achebe "the father of modern African literature" during the presentation. The world later adopted that tag. Why do people get hard-on for that label?
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 7:48am On May 26, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: ^^I'm not trying to Change anything, Nigerian are known for bogus claims beside Google just give back what people write all over the internet, I won't b surprised if most of results which pop out are from Nl.

Anyway I just asked my bro if he knows chinua achebe and he asked me where does he play..


Take any Chadian, nigerien , gabonese Equato they don't know achebe. And I insist that the first time I heard about him was in the US.
Bros, you are on your own o. Achebe is widely known across the francophone countries. This Fall Apart French translation is used in public schools in Senegal, Gabon and Ivory Coast.

[size=28pt]Big Lost: Africa’s Literary Icon Chinua Achebe is Dead![/size]

Yaoundé, 22 Mars 2013
© Valentine MULANGO | Cameroon-Info.Net 43 Réactions

One of Africa's literary icon and publisher of several novels, Nigeria’s Chinua Achebe, is dead. Mr. Achebe, 82, died in the United States where he was said to have suffered from an undisclosed ailment. PREMIUM TIMES, learnt he died last night (Thursday March 21) in a hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, United States.
http://www.cameroon-info.net/stories/0,43150,@,big-lost-africa-s-literary-icon-chinua-achebe-is-dead.html
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 9:30pm On May 25, 2013
Ola Johnson: You just go to google to get information that suites you hook, line and sinker and you paste it. If you don't know, I do know that google stores information the way it is, whether it right or wrong, properly spelt or not.
When you are in a hole, you should stop digging.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:19pm On May 25, 2013
Ola Johnson: You may call them useless papers owned by the Yoruba. What stops your people from owning theirs. What happened to Nnamdi Azikiwe's West African Pilot, when Obafemi Awolowo's Tribune is still functing?

Go check the meaning of father in the dictionary. Your father is your father because he gave birth to you. Did Chinua Achebe give birh to prose, novel or fiction? No!
hahahaha
Dude you are a disgrace. I promised not to respond to you. But the bolded ignorance is too obvious for me to ignore. The more you argue, the more you expose your inadequacies. Now take a look at this


HIPPOCRATES
Father of Medicine
Born in 460 B.C. - Died in 377 B.C.
Did he give birth to medicine? [size=18pt]NO![/size]

Juan Sebastian Bach, a German Musician is known as father of Music due to the quality and amount of his musical works.
Did he give birth to music? [size=18pt]NO![/size]

Sushruta (c. 600 BCE) taught and practiced surgery on the banks of the Ganges in the area that corresponds to the present day city of Benares in Northern India. Much of what is known about Sushruta is in Sanskrit contained in a series of volumes he authored, which are collectively known as the Susrutha Samhita. It is the oldest known surgical text and it describes in detail the examination, diagnosis, treatment, and prognosis of numerous ailments, as well as procedures such as cosmetic surgery and rhinoplasty. Because of his seminal and numerous contributions to the science and art of surgery, Sushruta has been called "Father of Surgery". The Samhita has some writings that date as late as the 1st century, and some scholars believe that there were contributions and additions to his teachings from generations of his students and disciples.
Did he give birth to surgery? [size=18pt]NO![/size]

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PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 7:43pm On May 25, 2013
BlackBaron: I don't have the book on me at the moment. When I do, I'll cite the appropriate page.
Then you withdraw your previous comment until you get the book. Stop misinforming the populace.
ComputersRe: Liberty Reserve Shut-down? Owner Arrested? by ACM10: 10:10am On May 25, 2013
That's too bad. I hope they don't close it down like E-gold. I lost close to $2000 on E-gold due to money laundering charges by FBI
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 9:25am On May 25, 2013
BlackBaron: I have read and seen the folly of both sides during the civil war and especially the genocide by the Nigerian side during the civil war...

But

For the third time on this forum, I ask for proof of genocide of igbos in the SW as written in Achebe's book.
Pls can you quote the page where Achebe explicitely made that claim in his book?
PoliticsRe: Enugu Has The Lowest Crime Rate - IGP by ACM10: 9:20am On May 25, 2013
one.east3:
[s]On the issue of civil servants in Anambra- maybe you are talking of 10-15yrs ago. But as at today 99.9 of the workers who were living outside due shortage in accommodation has since be allocated housing and some have independently got a place for themselves in Awka. So presently I do not think there are civil servanst that have not fully relocated, except for one or two who maybe retiring soon may have few things to sort out before finally leaving.[/s]
one.east3:
[s]IG was being sarcastic. Like somebody said there shouldn't crime in enugu, because there would be no money to steal. Pockets of crime in places like Lagos, PH, Onitsha, Kano are understandable because these places are economic hubs of Nigeria.[/s]
one.east3:
[s]Don't derail this thread. Anambra has in bigger scale more corporate, multinational businesses than Enugu x5.

There are more banks in Onitsha alone than Enugu and other states put together. Bank regional offices varies, some are in Enugu and some are in Anambra particularly Onitsha.

At least I know that banks like Oceanic or Diamond bank and some others has its regional offices in Onitsha. Naturally banks domicile where there is major economic activities- that explains influx of banks in Lagos, Rivers, Anambra and Kano. Because these state are usually where majority of Nigerians seek greener pasture that equally explain there high population.

So in a nutshell Enugu state maybe in most cases be calm mainly because there isn't much to part from its people.[/s]
angry angry angry angry
Chino o bu gini huh
PoliticsRe: Enugu Has The Lowest Crime Rate - IGP by ACM10: 4:56am On May 25, 2013
spyder880: Which year was this?
2007!
PoliticsRe: Surprising Under-reporting Of Achebe Obsequies By AIT by ACM10: 3:00am On May 24, 2013
AIT foray in the east ended in a disaster. Raypower has closed down due to stiff competition from Dream FM and Solid FM, not so sure if AIT is still broadcasting from the east. Therefore their loss of interest in eastern affair is understandable.
PoliticsRe: Enugu Has The Lowest Crime Rate - IGP by ACM10: 9:47pm On May 23, 2013
blocker: grin Enugu is the state with the 2nd lowest federal allocation in Naija (ask Federal Bureau of Statistics). It is the state with the highest unemployment rate in the S/E. But its alleged low crime rate naija wise be say most residents no dey report the most common crimes (door-to-door robbery going on every nite at Uwani,Emene, Agbani, Asata, Camp, Obiagu, Abakpa, Maryland, Achara Layout and Car snatching). Why? High Unemployment/Greed.The same reason the stingy residents would not pay N100 to watch (or financially support) Rangers nor pay for a bottle of beer to a visiting friend from from out-of town.In otherwords they don't want to spend money everything must be free not so in PH, Aba, Onitsha etc.The town is full of fake big boys wen sabi puff pass P Didi. Besides na their rent cost pass.Of course people wen no wan spend money report crime for police how they no go win award as the "state with least crime".Its a wonder the IG didn't remember that Enugu State has the highest unemloyment rate in S/E.If I dey lie naim be say I no dey live for there.
You are right. Crimes are underreported in Enugu. I lived in New Haven during my undergraduate years. Thieves do raid our compound twice every month for 5 consecutive months. We packed out en masse the next day after their last raid because they raped all the girls dispossessed us of all our belonging and inflicted physical injuries on us. I got a house in high brow area of GRA. Thieves dare not venture to that area. Your comment simply reminded me of my old bitter experience.
BusinessRe: A Little Insight On Retail Forex Trading - Brokers & More by ACM10: 8:18pm On May 23, 2013
^^

An eye opener. I think I should be more vigilant from now onwards
PoliticsRe: Okonjo-Iweala Is 83rd Most Powerful Woman In the World by ACM10: 3:04pm On May 23, 2013
fittty: smiley
huh
PoliticsRe: Enugu Has The Lowest Crime Rate - IGP by ACM10:
Odenigbo Aroli: There should never be crime in Enugu;Reason,There is no business there,hence,no money to steal.However,during the time of Nnamani Enugu was considered a death zone because of the political killings,which was rife,then. Like I pointed out earlier,Enugu should never have any crime issues because its mostly a civil servants and residential city. Ain't nothing to celebrate,here. Chime to me hasn't done much because all he did was to continue the beautification of the Coal city,which was started by Nnamani,while the rest of the state perish in abject neglet. But most Enugites are too naive to see the writing on the wall. Soon as they see a few beautiful pictures of Enugu city their head swell and they instantly forget that Enugu state is still 90% undeveloped villages. So long as Enugu city is fine the rest of the state can kiss the dust. Very gullible if you ask me. Enugites need to elect a governor in the mold of Peter Obi to deliver them from the shackels of their elites.
As an Anambrarian living in Enugu, I find your comment distasteful.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 10:15am On May 23, 2013
CHESSBOARD: Imagine this miscreant who is not even known in his village. As I was going through the internet, the whole africa, I mean the whole Africa: Ghana, SA, ethiopia, Kenya etc said that they dont think Africa will ever have a person like ACHEBE, meaning they r not even seeing Wole soyinka coming close to him. Yorubas get it in you dead head, he is the " FATHER OF MODERN AFRICAN LITERATURE" and there is nothing you bunkums can do about it.
Bros don't sweat it. Let history be the judge. cool
PoliticsRe: Dickson Alleges Plot To Destabilise Bayelsa by ACM10: 10:13am On May 23, 2013
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PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:25am On May 23, 2013
PhysicsQED: Actually, Einstein won the Nobel prize for "his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect." They didn't state outright what they meant by "his services to Theoretical Physics" but it should be obvious that they were alluding to his work on Brownian motion, the quantum theory of light, and the special and general theories of relativity. Relativity was probably not mentioned outright only because of the lack of really definitive evidence for it at the time.

As for the mass-energy equivalence formula, Einstein didn't actually prove that relation successfully in the general case (see this article by Hans Ohanian on his mistakes: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0805/0805.1400.pdf) and there was no strong experimental proof of that fact in 1922.
I know that I may be venturing into your field. But I think that got the dates muddled in your head. Einstein won his Nobel prize in 1922 "for his services to Theoretical Physics". By that time he was yet to complete his work on Brownian motion which was published in 1926. Your postulation that there was no definite proof of the relation of mass and energy at that time might be a valid reason why he was not awarded the prize.

Einstein's researches are, of course, well chronicled and his more important works include Special Theory of Relativity (1905), Relativity (English translations, 1920 and 1950), General Theory of Relativity (1916), Investigations on Theory of Brownian Movement (1926), and The Evolution of Physics (1938). Among his non-scientific works, About Zionism (1930), Why War? (1933), My Philosophy (1934), and Out of My Later Years (1950) are perhaps the most important.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10:
PhysicsQED: I think you're reading a negative connotation into the word "storyteller" which isn't always there. Achebe praised Adichie as being "a new writer endowed with the gift of ancient storytellers" and he praised the craft and role of the storyteller himself in this interview from 1989:



Excerpt from: Moyers, Bill. A World of Ideas New York: Doubleday, 1989.

http://chisnell.com/APEng/BackgroundNotes/Achebe/Achebe%20as%20Storyteller.aspx

http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/remembering-chinua-achebe-nigeria-master-storyteller
Prof. Physics, where have you been? We missed your contribution here. Whether I read negative or positive connotation into the word "celebrated storyteller", that fact remains that its content of use stripped Achebe of his contribution to intellectual development. It is clear to the discerning mind the message Soyinka passed.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 7:32pm On May 22, 2013
Ola Johnson: If CA had won it you "Jews" won't be saying this.
I don't waste my time with bigots. So I will leave the arena for you.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 7:05pm On May 22, 2013
Ola Johnson: It is rather unfortunate that rather than blame Odumegwu Ojukwu, you are blaming Obafemi Awolowo. Ojukwu went to war without food but hoped to be fed by his enemies; without money but hoped to steal from Central Bank of Nigeria to buy weapons. Though they broke into their branches in Benin and Calabar, the intelligent Awolowo quickly changed our currency, thereby rendering the stolen money useless.
Stop shifting the discussion. Meet me in civil war thread to debate on the events surrounding the civil war.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 7:02pm On May 22, 2013
I'm amazed that some folks are fixated on Nobel prize as a yardstick to measures the success of Achebe in the field of African literature. A prize that is often heavily influenced by politics. Albert Einstein was awarded the Nobel prize in Physics for his least influential work in theory of relativity after many years. One European historian said that he would have been ignored by the Nobel committee because of his pacifist stance during the first world war.
His groundbreaking work that relates energy and mass(E = mc2) was totally ignored. Today, his work that was ignored changed the face of the earth and gave birth to a nuclear age. Theory of relativity is still theory. Who did history judge fairly?
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 6:45pm On May 22, 2013
Ola Johnson: It appears you don't understand common English: CA himself rejected the title. Why are you crying more than the bereaved?
Mr Native English speaker, do you expect Achebe to accept the title? Do you really understand the term gracious?
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 6:23pm On May 22, 2013
funnyx: You really don't need to use your thread as a bait before you know that tribalism exists and trending. What is ironic is that people like you that are quick to accuse others of tribalism are guilty of the same. Isn't it obvious that many contributors on this thread leans towards 'their man' rather than look at the facts and issues raised in the interview?
You stated that Soyinka shouldn't have said anything about Achebe because Achebe is not around to 'defend' himself yet I see no attack to Achebe's personality in that interview. Also in your biased mind you forgot that in Achebe's last book he attacked the personality of Chief Obafemi Awolowo when he knows that Awolowo is no more around to defend himself, what an irony?
Soyinka is heavily biased, you are biased too, everybody commented with some tint of bias. The fact that Soyinka gave such interview is regretful. Doubling down to call Achebe "a celebrated storyteller" is as low as he can get. That term alone deprived Achebe of his contribution to African and indeed the world intellectual development. He gave credence to the fact that there is no detribalized Nigerian. I will leave history to judge between Soyinka and Achebe. History will tell us if Achebe deserves that title. People of next generation and beyond will know who is indeed the father of modern African literature.
RomanceRe: I Think I Am Pregnant For A Stranger - Help by ACM10: 2:53pm On May 22, 2013
sexyseun: I have always been very protective when it comes to s.ex, but right now i have a feeling that i am preggy. [size=28pt]Been having serious headaches[/size] and [size=28pt]feverish feeling for some days now[/size] and i cant just allow myself to see a doctor for the fear of pregnancy test, my dad would kill me if its real, please how can i confirm if i am pregnant without seeing a doctor? Then lastly, is it possible for someone to get pregnant even when the guy used a condom?
I think you should be more afraid of HIV.
PoliticsRe: Buhari Asks Jonathan To Resign Over Insecurity by ACM10: 1:54pm On May 22, 2013
He warned that the police, SSS, army, navy and Air force should know how to conduct themselves and act professionally.
“The soldiers are not expected to go and sack a town because one of them is killed. They are expected to capture the culprits for prosecution. After all the soldiers are not meant to tackle internal crisis but when it is necessary they should act professionally.
Warning coming from Murtala Muhammed 2nd in command. Heading band of marauders who sacked Onitsha, killed the men and ra.ped the women. Buhari has no moral right to issue this warning. He is a hypocrite.
PoliticsRe: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 8:43am On May 22, 2013
bobthebuilder99: These people are blinded by hate.

I never realized how tribalist Igbos can be until I came to this website.
Igbos hate no one. Besides you are following Eko ile, a reknown Yoruba tribalist, yet you have the gut to call others tribalist.
PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by ACM10: 4:57pm On May 21, 2013
Dudu_Negro: I wanted to say this riot is over rights of access into kidnap territories. ....but the need to be politically correct got the better of me.

Guys know with these many guests in town there is money waiting to be made in ransom demands....and i wonder if territorial disputes among the criminals led to this riot. grin
So you guys don't see anything wrong with this comment that you left it there for almost 24hrs. Later someone will tell me that Igbos are the aggressors

https://www.nairaland.com/1296578/riot-onitsha/3
LiteratureRe: Is “Things Fall Apart” Really Chinua Achebe's Best Work? by ACM10: 4:49pm On May 21, 2013
semid4lyfe: From the Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe Thread



An opinion I agree with.

Arrow of God is denser with detail than Things Fall Apart, with a good deal more technical discussion of the rituals and concepts underlying Igbo religious customs and with a larger and more fleshed-out cast of characters. It is also a far more interesting read IMO.
Have you read Arrow of God? If you did, summarize the novel for us to prove that you've done so.

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