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butterflyl1on:
Faith is beyond the physical evidence you seek. The result of faith can be measured but faith itself cannot be physically assessed until it has served its purpose.

We speak of faith when evidence is already there for it. You quoted Hebrews 11 I suggest you read it again.

Faith IS THE SUBSTANCE of things hoped for THE EVIDENCE of things not seen.

Faith when focused on God does not subscribe to the workings of mans physical perceptions so when man says faith means absence and God says faith means present even when we physically see absence then you need to know that God's angle to faith is far far deeper than our human perception can offer.

You know what, we are never going to come to a single conclusion cos Christianity is about faith and that's exactly what you're doing..

Same way science is based on physical facts and evidence.

You talk "Christian-wise", I talk non-Christian-wise

We are two parallel lines that can never meet

butterflyl1on:
You gave biblical definition of faith regarding God but we said faith is not only applied when God is in the picture. We deal with faith daily in our normal every day lives as well wouldn't you agree?

Can you give example(s) where "we" (take note of the word) apply faith in our everyday life/activities

vaxx:
do not forget this character of faith... Concreteness of confidence.... Someone who have faith rely so much on this concept... I gave an analogy
that an atheist may have faith that he or she is loved by someone, yet this is a condition which can't be scientifically proven. But there IS evidence; selfless acts of kindness, physical attraction.

No reasonable person will assume or play a card of risk believing someone loves him/her without convincing expression of the other party.

Do you wanna equate loving someone as having faith in love/affection? Cos I'm not understanding your analogy.

Infact, they don't correspond at all

butterflyl1on:
Faith is the connecting power into the spiritual realm, which links us with God and makes Him become a tangible reality to the sense perceptions of a person.

Someone with this faith does not require scientific validation as he knows how he feels in the face of faith and how real this faith makes God appear to him.

Science only validates what is tangible so is limited to what we perceive via our senses. However faith is what makes our senses perceive God so in essence faith is beyond the grasp of scientific evaluation but the results and physical responses to faith are not.

If you do not understand the divide between faith and science then stop talking about it.

I feel it in my heart/mind(anecdotal evidence) isn't an evidence but a mind control.

We only speak of faith when evidence is lacking/absent.

vaxx:
It is wrong for you to conclude that religion belive is base an assumption.

Not just assumption but false assumptions.
No religion has been able to explain 1% of everything it claims to match reality.

There is different between belive and assumotion because assumptions are mostly based on instinct without any further information gathered Whereas belief can have proof to testify it with faith.... In belive there is concreteness of confidence..

I welcome the evidence of evolutionist on the subject matter. And likewise that of creationist. creationists may not provide a convincing truth about it.... But they do not also fail to correct evolutionists where they need to cover or where their evidence isn't concrete.... At this junction both of them can work together...

You say faith is proof?
Proof of what?
Seems you don't know how to define faith.


Definition of faith
faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" Hebrews 11: 1.

There was an articule I read online that statescientists only accept the evolution theory not because it agree with science but its disagree with church...

This is serious.

Can you provide link or are they just mere critics of science?

asuustrike2009:
Yahweh is merciful God, come out before it's too late.Mercy is only on earth

Merciful?

He flooded the earth oo.
He killed job's children.
He destroyed Sodom and gommorah
He killed all the first born of the Egyptians.
He killed Jesus

But he's yet to kill Satan.
Yet you say he's merciful. I guess merciful now gat a new meaning

vaxx:
hahhaaaa. Jos is much liberal than many northern state.... In fact it has more Christian than Muslim...

LoL

Lemme manage my small location jàre..... Most of this aboki-s are violent.
One shouldn't underestimate them.

asuustrike2009:
He's even watching how you type on the internet.

- I'm sure he's aware that I'm an atheist too.
- Furthermore, he does watch Lisa Ann and John Sins whenever they are shooting their pornography film.
- He also watches the children that die Sudan, Somalia as a result of famine and other problems yet can't do anything.

Your God is dead

vaxx:
jf you want to see atheist in the north go to jos....

You don't like me.

You want them to chop off my head

folafola:
God the creator is alive forever more!!

You mean Panku?

Most atimes, APP FORCED STOP ON ANDROID is as a result of bug/incompatibility of the application.

Furthermore, it might as well be due to TOO MUCH consumption of DEVICE RAM

Best way to dix is either check for compatibility history or betterstill Uninstall the god damn app

Shinapraise:
This is real in some customs I will urge you to tell your parent what you did and get a good pastor like prophet tb joshua or iginla or go to your community where you can get a good babalawo they know the antidote of this and you need to be cleansed asap cos if you continue like this every man u marry will die prematurely peace .

It's not real.

It's mind control

Daeylar:
Exactly, this always pissed me off, let me use homosexuals, why create someone to be a homosexual or a bisexual and then throw the person in "hell" for being an homosexual? The say you gave the person a chance to repent, which kin nonsense mind games be that, If you didn't create the person as one he wouldn't have had to repent,
why create problems for people then say you were testing them? This is the same person that said in
Luke 4:16 and Matthew 4:7 that no one should test him, but he wants to test people.

I feel like I'm sinning by pointing this out

Where are the Christians? Any response to these statements, I want to learn

Lemme summon Wilgrea7 and Bennyann, they are one of the sensible Christians on this section

lilbest4:
Did your great grandfather read the Bible?
How did he know he was the head of the family?

Your comment is crazy oo

Lemme ask God for the answer

Blood convenant of whatever they call it is damn UNREAL.

Don't allow fear hold a grasp of you cos that will be the beginning of the end for you.

Kindly move on with your life joor.

LoL

This particular god of chosen must be a real time waster.

What has God been doing for the past 16yrs that he couldn't answer their prayers? - I guess he(God) was busy watching how other couples were making love in the night.

BTW too, you mean to tell me that for the past 16yrs, their praying effort Yaff been futile?

segunojo866:
blood of the lamb. What's the meaning of that?

voice/god is beautiful

segunojo866:
hahahahahaha

I perfectly understand why God created hell. So he could just throw some set of his creatures there.

Imagine asking someone to describe God's voice and he/she started by saying; the voice is "beautiful"

CaptainSALAZAR:
[color=#7000BC] Take ten steps back, snap the snake, log in nairaland and call on lalasticlala [/color]

This gat me cracking wàlái

Nigerians are beginning to employ their head now in reasoning.

It's a good start that many citizens now acknowledge and appreciate doctors before God

geoworldedu:
The five people in the bus are christians

Deeperlifer died, shame to Kumuyi
Redeemer died, shame to Adeboye
Winners died, shame to Oyedepo
CAC died, shame to Abiara
Only the Lord Chosen member survived, praise Muoka, Halleluyah

Your post made lot of sense even tho it might appear funny to others

OliviaPope:
Next time you want to copy and paste someone's intellectual property, don't forget to include the source, as failure to do so is akin to plagiarism which is a serious offence


But just incase it skipped your mind, here's the source; http://creation.mobi/refuting-evolution-2-chapter-6-argument-common-design-points-to-common-ancestry

You're welcome

LoL

Hunters hunted.
Yet he accuses others of same crime (plagiarism).

segunojo866:

Some comments can frustrate person abeg

Martinez19:
each time I remember these things, I just weak.

Immediately they make such utterance(s), I gently end the discussion cos that's the END

She yaff landed

The bosslady Yaff arrived

vaxx:
i do not believe in the concept of hell - fire... I believed in karma. Which is the same with Newton law.. For every action there is a reaction.... A student who failed will likely repeat a class or be withdraw from the school

But god is omni(potent, science, bla bla bla) in this context while the teacher is just assuming or trying to re-affirm his/her thoughts/instinct/guess

abouzaid:
your teacher only guessed that you would pass.he can't say for sure whether you would study and pass or not.he can't even seat for sure that younger score would be 71% or 63% but God is supposed to know all these in advance therefore there's no need for the test.

Don't mind vaxx joor

This thread is funny.

See PRAYER SECTION ontop NL

SO FUNNY

vaxx:
let assume , you are the best student in your class and the teacher is fully aware of your progress.... Will that stop the teacher from testing you both in exams and periodical test... Am sure your best answer will be know...

mind you being the best student do not guaranty pass mark in the exams if you do not study enough....


God can test us if even is aware of our capacity.... It is our duty to proove to him that will are not backsliding .....

And when you fail the test, hell is the reward