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As usual you will always commit a blunder whenever you post anything.

So people now start threads to praise countries? How pathetic.

And I won't be surprised when you veer into agriculture in your bid to divert attention to the obvious lie.

Stating that you tell the truth is not the same thing as telling the truth just as calling yourself a born again doesn't make you one.

Cool simple accessible design.

Lose the vertical scrolling bar.

As regards online reservation, it will be a good idea to propose it, the website can show what rooms are occupied at any particular point in time with the rates, shots etc.

That will be a good reason to ask for a higher price for the project.

The interswitch feature will only work when you have something you need to pay for so if you are not going to implement that online reservation then lose the interswitch button.

If you have problems doing the programming stuff, just let me know, I will help for a small fee trust me.

Let me know when you are online, have something important to tell you but will do so on YIM.

@smartsoft,

I think harsh criticisms sometimes are better than friendly ones and one should avail himself or herself the opportunity of facing them.

As a programmer I can replicate any good design although coming up with designs isn't my take so things will only get better after all the world is moving towards simplicity and functionality as far as web projects are concerned.

1. Iran and other arab nations have a right to concern themselves with the holocaust because Palestinians are being killed and their lands seized because of what happened in Germany and that is not right.

2. Holocaust happened int the 1940s and the State of Israel was created in 1948, there is no point bringing in 1922 as if Israel existed as a state prior to 1948.

Stop twisting information and try to comprehend first, haba!

I guess it pays to accept criticisms even harsh ones with open mind as I have come to agree with almost all the criticisms on this site and decided to go back to the drawing board.

Can anyone take a look at the site and comment on it, functionality wise.

I am certain the site is not perfect and as such there is room fro improvement but the focus remains having a single portal where information on anything entertainment can be accessed.

www.justnigeriaentertainment.com

Glad you guys feel the same way.

About taking the audience into consideration I find it hard to understand why quite a number of people are eager to implement video sites when over 90% of Nigerians can't even see the video due to bandwidth limitation not to even talk about serious video compression.

Uploading a video and playing it is as easy as uploading a photo and displaying it but again I ask "who are you designing for?"

The most important thing a serious web developer will find very useful is the ability to say NO to a client even when the money is tempting, not easy to do but pays in the end because the client may still come back to you after implementing and failing with another developer who may not be professional enough to advice the client on what works and what doesn't work on the web.

@naijaking1,

You have 2 options when dealing with Davidylan

1. Ignore him because he has a track record of going off point every time he finds it difficult to make a point

2. Be ready to play the dirty game of beating around the bush and deviating from the topic.

Either way you lose.

He abuses a people and a religion based on his very prejudiced low level of reasoning and yet does not see anything wrong in doing just that.

You may choose to tolerate him and hope (against all hope) that he will change for the better by the time he is through with his schooling as he is currently a student somewhere in the US hating everything that is not US, Israel or Zionism.

He seems to be a very bitter person without any activity outside the classroom and this forum, hence his penchant for registering with other user IDs on this forum whenever he is banned by the admin. Maybe his world starts and stops on this forum so you may learn to read and ignore him.

McKren:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7048325.stm

How about asking questions politely??

Unfortunately, on this forum once someone is not aware of something then that thing does not exist especially when one is not singing the praises of US or Israel.

I am surprised that even new websites are setup in such a way that you must wait for quite some time for them to come up or for you to move around from one page to another.

Successful websites don't waste your time because they understand that time is money and on the internet a lot of people are in a hurry so the average user will probably hit the back button than keep waiting until the website comes up.

Simplicity and animations can co-exist, focusing on one to the detriment of the other is counter productive.

Is a website is not fast, easy to use and useful regardless of the amount of energy and money used to develop the website it will struggle to survive.

ocho cinco:
chidichris

just as mamajama is shortsighted in his support for Obj, you as well are equally irresponsible in your rabid attacks on him.

Well stated.

@topic,

The former governor is right in making the claims that the money belonged to Taraba State and should be tried there.

We cannot in a bid to convict at all cost begin to introduce things that may be used to derail the much needed trials.

Guy, the only reasonable thing I can see from your post was the link on nuclear threat but again I am shocked at your level of reasoning.

Even from the links you searched for and pasted is India threatening Pakistan with nuclear weapons?

Did either nation threaten to use nuclear weapon on the other? Simple question that does not require using google.

The 2 nations are nuclear nations, this is clear. I certainly will not go into a never ending cycle on this one.

Small advice for you.

When a nation says it will retaliate with a weapon if another attacks it with the same weapon that nation has not threatened any nation. Can't you understand basic information?

Google some more and come up with a nation threatening another or go to bed.

So USA is a secular nation just like Iraq before the invasion that now led to an islamic Iraq. Very interesting comments, who says that truth can be hidden for a long time?

If the bible is used to swear law makers in what does that mean?

Was it not in the news when a lot of law makers objected to a muslim that insisted he wanted to be sworn in using the quran?

Wetin person no go read for NL?

When the chips are down, with thy mouth shall you confess and stand by the truth.

Meanwhile, India and Pakistan have never threatened each other with nuclear weapons of any kind, I don't know where some of us get info from, google can be used and be abused at the same time so make we take am easy as we dey rush google for information.

denex:
Well several countries whose populations are predominantly muslim are utilising nuclear technology already. In fact one has confirmed nuclear weapons yet they have not used it on anyone yet. It is the Christian countries that keep attacking people with Nuclear Bombs and Depleted Uranium.

So remind me. Who exactly is the bad guy here?

Do you really expect any honest answer to this question? I very much doubt it and can't wait to be pleasantly surprised is someone chooses to turn a new leaf today.

When people have already taken sides even before knowing the facts it is almost impossible for any meaningful discussion to be held.

Facts don't change.

@Denex,

Glad yo are ok now.

denex:
@chidichris

I really don't see any need answering your questions because in doing so, I would have to use some complex analogy which from carefully reading your last post, I doubt if you'd understand.

GBAM! You get am well well.

I shall not go the extent of breaking things down for you. You should be able to put in more effort in analyzing issues.

According to you the title is misleading. That is your own opinion based on your own level of reasoning (maybe high, maybe low, you decide).

There was an incident and both Israel and the US have decided to mislead the public for different reasons. The writer is asking if they lied about the incident and from the information here and on the link someone posted - whatreallyhappened.com it is very clear that Israel lied and the US chose to follow the lies even when witnesses and survivors have made statements that contradict the official version.

My honest opinion, either you didn't read the article on the website someone posted a link to or you didn't understand the article on the site. However, that is still not an excuse for you.

Mind you I will not respond to your posts on this thread if you do not meet a reasonable level of comprehension as I won't be wasting time trying to make simple things simpler.

Facts remain facts whether you believe them or not. Always remember this.

Sure some companies don't want that and companies like that wouldn't mind paying you to knock them off just as some will still insist you don't even disclose you did anything for them.

You will be surprised at how much you can effortlessly make by removing a one line link.

davidylan:
What "overwhelming facts"? Besides the mere regurgitation of a questionable article, what other "facts" buttress your point?

Check your pockets or look under your bed you may see them. Unfortunately, I am not aware of any way of making you see what is obvious as I am not into playing games with lies and trying to shift the goal post anytime Van Persie wan hala shot.

@Niyyie,

web developers

Generally speaking, in this area I will say no. Apart from websites belonging to banks (and these simply use software developed from foreigners) you can hardly point to a Nigerian initiative on the web that is worth talking about.


web designers

These group perform better than web developers apart from the issue of flash abuse. I have seen very bad web design jobs from people in US and UK so in this area Nigerians are doing well even though there is room for improvement.

web graphics experts

For some websites I have seen we have good graphic experts but like every other thing in life over doing anything is bad. Graphic experts should know where to draw the line between show casing their skills to the detriment of the clients and showcasing their skills to help the clients and believe me there is a thin line between the two.

search engine optimization experts

Don't think so but again not the fault of the SEO experts because most clients are even finding it difficult to come to terms with basic website costs let alone bother with something they cannot see for themselves on their websites.

web hosting companies

We have few decent web hosting packages out there as many offer web packages that no serious client that understands anything about web hosting will bother to take up.

All these unlimited this and unlimited that which in some cases gives you a shocking reality that a single machine may be hosting up to 10,000 websites and these websites will have their unique visitors trying to compete for processor attention.

Sure, I got business interests in the US. I guess that proves I have a right to talk about what it does.

Bt don't bother trying to divert attention to other issues as the facts on this issue are so overwhelming that any diversion would be welcome by you.

Stick to the issue or take a hike, your choice but stop worrying too much about what you think people should think or do as you don't think for others.

uspry1:
@ poster (Afam)

The answer is Israel claimed the USS Liberty was mistaken for the out-of-service Egyptian horse carrier El Quseir.

Pictures and video displayed at below.

source cite:  http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ussliberty.html

Thanks for the link.

The information contained on that site goes to support the view that indeed Israel deliberately attacked USS Liberty and those in charge of the operation were pissed off that they could not sink the vessel.

Truth is supreme, there is no option to it.

Advice to those interested in research for other issues like Dele Giwa and co

This is a public forum. You are allowed to start a new thread on any major category or sub category and it is free, money no dey change hand so no fear.

You need to know where two buttons are located for you to successfully start a thread on what catches your fancy.

1. New Topic (if you know your way around)

2. Help button (if you cannot figure out how to use the forum).

There are topics I never bother to read, in fact I don't visit sections outside Politics, Programming, Technology, Web masters and very infrequently Business.

So, it is not compulsory for one to visit all the sections and it is not compulsory for one to reply to any thread.

I can't figure out how person go dey purge for wetin another person chop, na wah oo.

Has The Nigerian Web Community Come Of Age Yet?

In what sense? What exactly is the poster trying to ask?

This question may be simple but yet completely open ended.

One cannot provide answers to a question unless the question is clear enough otherwise time and energy may be expended providing answers to non existent questions.

davidylan:
You give a lot of advice but your biggest problem is applying same to yourself.

Here is an example:

I applied my advice and that is why I did not attack anyone's personality. What part of my post didn't you understand?

naijaking1:
The 1967 USS Liberty incident remains an emotionally charged and politically divisive topics in US/Israeli relationship- no doubt.

But, what is the purpose of bringing in it up at this time?

Have you read the article as pasted here before? If no, then others may not mind reading it.

naijaking1:
Ever thought of doing an article on other unanswered US incidents, such as JF. Kennedy assasination, FBI spying on MLK/his wife, and Invasion of the Bay of pigs?

I did not do any article on this, maybe you missed the "from my inbox" line above. In any case, what would be the purpose of doing an article on FBI spying on MLK/his wife?

naijaking1:
I like to know what you think about other topics.

Other topics like JF Kennedy assasination or invasion of the Bay of pigs or what?

What a person thinks on any issue to me is immaterial, what I consider supreme is reality, what happened, facts, truth etc.

I never bother myself with what individuals think on certain issues. I prefer to focus on the issues and not the personalities discussing them, that is what I have been preaching and practicing and I hope you do same.

uspry1:
Have you thought about researching on the largest unsolved cases of all innocent Black prisoners who did not commit the crimes back 1960s but all their evidences and witnesses destroyed and never been put them for trials (violated their rights to seek for trials or speak out for themself) by white law enforcements/lawyers in the past?

This thread has a particular title. If you don't like the title or the content you ignore it, asking someone to research something that bothers you is funny and out of place.

You don't think for people. Research what you want to research, start a thread on what catches your fancy. Stop trying to make people do what you think, it causes a lot of headache.

The right you believe you have to ask me to do the following

texazzpete:
Make attempts to verify your 'inbox' stories before you post 'em.

is the same right that I have to ask people to enjoy an article so it becomes pure double standard for you complain as reproduced below

texazzpete:
If you really claim to be unbiased, please kindly refrain from asking us to 'enjoy' the contents of your articles before they are verified.

The world is in a mess today because many believe they have a right to do one thing and at the same time believe others don't have rights to do same thing or in the extreme they believe others shouldn't have rights at all.

I only wish we stop and ask ourselves why there is usually a disconnect between what we preach and what we practice.

Public execution and recovery of every single kobo will go a long way to deter many people from engaging in it to begin with.

Sad that such a visionary leader like Sankara had to die the way he did and considering the fact that the person he trusted most killed him one begins to wonder what human beings are capable of.

Well, Vasta was put to death because his best friend wanted him to die at all cost.

From my inbox, enjoy the content and if possible focus on the issues raised rather than attack personalities, that strategy stopped working some months ago.

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Editor's Note:

This is a special 2-part series on new evidence obtained
by the Chicago Tribune. The second part will be delivered
to you tomorrow. After 40 years, the truth needs to be
revealed.

Video Clip Of The Week

US Had Foreknowledge of Israeli Attack On Syria

On September 20, Israel attacked Syria under mysterious
circumstances. Both Israeli and US governments maintained
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Did US and Israel Lie about the 1967 USS Liberty Incident?

-By John Crewdson, Chicago Tribune senior correspondent

Bryce Lockwood, Marine staff sergeant, Russian-language
expert, recipient of the Silver Star for heroism, ordained
Baptist minister, is shouting into the phone.

"I'm angry! I'm seething with anger! Forty years, and I'm
seething with anger!"

Lockwood was aboard the USS Liberty, a super-secret spy
ship on station in the eastern Mediterranean, when four
Israeli fighter jets flew out of the afternoon sun to
strafe and bomb the virtually defenseless vessel on
June 8, 1967, the fourth day of what would become known
as the Six-Day War.

For Lockwood and many other survivors, the anger is mixed
with incredulity: that Israel would attack an important
ally, then attribute the attack to a case of mistaken
identity by Israeli pilots who had confused the U.S.
Navy's most distinctive ship with an Egyptian horse-
cavalry transport that was half its size and had a dis-
similar profile. And they're also incredulous that, for
years, their own government would reject their calls for
a thorough investigation.

"They tried to lie their way out of it!" Lockwood shouts.
"I don't believe that for a minute! You just don't shoot
at a ship at sea without identifying it, making sure of
your target!"

Four decades later, many of the more than two dozen Liberty
survivors located and interviewed by the Tribune cannot
talk about the attack without shouting or weeping.

Their anger has been stoked by the declassification of
government documents and the recollections of former
military personnel, including some quoted in this article
for the first time, which strengthen doubts about the U.S.
National Security Agency's position that it never intercept-
ed the communications of the attacking Israeli pilots --
communications, according to those who remember seeing
them, that showed the Israelis knew they were attacking an
American naval vessel.

The documents also suggest that the U.S. government,
anxious to spare Israel's reputation and preserve its
alliance with the U.S., closed the case with what even
some of its participants now say was a hasty and seriously
flawed investigation.

In declassifying the most recent and largest batch of
materials last June 8, the 40th anniversary of the attack,
the NSA, this country's chief U.S. electronic-intelligence-
gatherer and code-breaker, acknowledged that the attack had
"become the center of considerable controversy and debate."
It was not the agency's intention, it said, "to prove or
disprove any one set of conclusions, many of which can be
drawn from a thorough review of this material," available
at http://www.nsa.gov/liberty .

An Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman, Mark Regev, called
the attack on the Liberty "a tragic and terrible accident,
a case of mistaken identity, for which Israel has official-
ly apologized." Israel also paid reparations of $6.7
million to the injured survivors and the families of those
killed in the attack, and another $6 million for the loss
of the Liberty itself.

But for those who lost their sons and husbands, neither
the Israelis' apology nor the passing of time has lessened
their grief.

One is Pat Blue, who still remembers having her lunch in
Washington's Farragut Square park on "a beautiful June
afternoon" when she was a 22-year-old secretary for a law
firm.

Blue heard somebody's portable radio saying a U.S. Navy
ship had been torpedoed in the eastern Mediterranean. A
few weeks before, Blue's husband of two years, an Arab-
language expert with the NSA, had been hurriedly dispatched
overseas.

As she listened to the news report, "it just all came
together." Soon afterward, the NSA confirmed that Allen
Blue was among the missing.

"I never felt young again," she said.

Aircraft on the horizon

Beginning before dawn on June 8, Israeli aircraft regularly
appeared on the horizon and circled the Liberty.

The Israeli Air Force had gained control of the skies on
the first day of the war by destroying the Egyptian air
force on the ground. America was Israel's ally, and the
Israelis knew the Americans were there. The ship's mission
was to monitor the communications of Israel's Arab enemies
and their Soviet advisers, but not Israeli communications.
The Liberty felt safe.

Then the jets started shooting at the officers and enlisted
men stretched out on the deck for a lunch-hour sun bath.
Theodore Arfsten, a quartermaster, remembered watching a
Jewish officer cry when he saw the blue Star of David on
the planes' fuselages. At first, crew members below decks
had no idea whose planes were shooting at their ship.

Thirty-four died that day, including Blue, the only
civilian casualty. An additional 171 were wounded in the
air and sea assault by Israel, which was about to celebrate
an overwhelming victory over the combined armies of Egypt,
Syria, Jordan, and several other Arab states.

For most of those who survived the attack, the Six-Day War
has become the defining moment of their lives.

Some mustered out of the Navy as soon as their enlistments
were up. Others stayed in long enough to retire. Several
went on to successful business careers. One became a Secret
Service agent, another a Baltimore policeman.

Several are being treated with therapy and drugs for what
has since been recognized as post-traumatic stress dis-
order. One has undergone more than 30 major operations.
Another suffers seizures caused by a piece of shrapnel
still lodged in his brain.

After Bryce Lockwood left the Marines, he worked construct-
ion, then tried selling insurance. "I'd get a job and get
fired," he said. "I had a hell of a time getting my feet
on the ground."

With his linguistic background, Lockwood could have had a
career with the NSA, the CIA, or the FBI. But he was too
angry at the U.S. government to work for it. "Don't talk
to me about government!" he shouts.

U.S. Navy jets were called back

An Israeli military court of inquiry later acknowledged
that their naval headquarters knew at least three hours
before the attack that the odd-looking ship 13 miles off
the Sinai Peninsula, sprouting more than 40 antennas cap-
able of receiving every kind of radio transmission, was
"an electromagnetic audio-surveillance ship of the U.S.
Navy," a floating electronic vacuum cleaner.

The Israeli inquiry later concluded that that information
had simply gotten lost, never passed along to the ground
controllers who directed the air attack nor to the crews
of the three Israeli torpedo boats who picked up where the
air force left off, strafing the Liberty's decks with their
machine guns and launching a torpedo that blew a 39-foot
hole in its starboard side.

To a man, the survivors interviewed by the Tribune rejected
Israel's explanation.

Nor, the survivors said, did they understand why the
American 6th Fleet, which included the aircraft carriers
America and Saratoga, patrolling 400 miles west of the
Liberty, launched and then recalled at least two squadrons
of Navy fighter-bombers that might have arrived in time to
prevent the torpedo attack -- and save 26 American lives.

J.Q. "Tony" Hart, then a chief petty officer assigned to a
U.S. Navy relay station in Morocco that handled communi-
cations between Washington and the 6th Fleet, remembered
listening as Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, in Washing-
ton, ordered Rear Adm. Lawrence Geis, commander of the
America's carrier battle group, to bring the jets home.

When Geis protested that the Liberty was under attack and
needed help, Hart said, McNamara retorted that "President
[Lyndon] Johnson is not going to go to war or embarrass an
American ally over a few sailors."

McNamara, who is now 91, told the Tribune he has "absolute-
ly no recollection of what I did that day," except that "I
have a memory that I didn't know at the time what was going
on."

The Johnson administration did not publicly dispute
Israel's claim that the attack had been nothing more than
a disastrous mistake. But internal White House documents
obtained from the Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library
show that the Israelis' explanation of how the mistake had
occurred was not believed.

Except for McNamara, most senior administration officials
from Secretary of State Dean Rusk on down privately agreed
with Johnson's intelligence adviser, Clark Clifford, who
was quoted in minutes of a National Security Council staff
meeting as saying it was "inconceivable" that the attack
had been a case of mistaken identity.

The attack "couldn't be anything else but deliberate,"
the NSA's director, Lt. Gen. Marshall Carter, later told
Congress.

"I don't think you'll find many people at NSA who believe
it was accidental," Benson Buffham, a former deputy NSA
director, said in an interview.

"I just always assumed that the Israeli pilots knew what
they were doing," said Harold Saunders, then a member of
the National Security Council staff and later assistant
secretary of state for Near Eastern and South Asian affairs.

"So for me, the question really is who issued the order to
do that and why? That's the really interesting thing."

The answer, if there is one, will probably never be known.
Gen. Moshe Dayan, then the country's minister of defense;
Levi Eshkol, the Israeli prime minister; and Golda Meir,
his successor, are all dead.



Many of those who believe the Liberty was purposely attack-
ed have suggested that the Israelis feared the ship might
intercept communications revealing its plans to widen the
war, which the U.S. opposed. But no one has ever produced
any solid evidence to support that theory, and the Israelis
dismiss it. The NSA's deputy director, Louis Tordella,
speculated in a recently declassified memo that the attack
"might have been ordered by some senior commander on the
Sinai Peninsula who wrongly suspected that the LIBERTY was
monitoring his activities."

Was the U.S. flag visible?

Though the attack on the Liberty has faded from public
memory, Michael Oren, a historian and senior fellow at The
Shalem Center in Jerusalem, conceded that "the case of the
assault on the Liberty has never been closed."

If anything, Oren said, "the accusations leveled against
Israel have grown sharper with time." Oren said in an
interview that he believed a formal investigation by the
U.S., even 40 years later, would be useful if only because
it would finally establish Israel's innocence.

Questions about what happened to the Liberty have been
kept alive by survivors' groups and their Web sites,
a half-dozen books, magazine articles and television
documentaries, scholarly papers published in academic
journals, and Internet chat groups where amateur sleuths
debate arcane points of photo interpretation and torpedo
running depth.

Meantime, the Liberty's survivors and their supporters,
including a distinguished constellation of retired admirals
and generals, have persisted in asking Congress for a full-
scale formal investigation.

"We deserve to have the truth," Pat Blue said.

For all its apparent complexity, the attack on the Liberty
can be reduced to a single question: Was the ship flying
the American flag at the time of the attack, and was that
flag visible from the air?

The survivors interviewed by the Tribune uniformly agree
that the Liberty was flying the Stars and Stripes before,
during and after the attack, except for a brief period in
which one flag that had been shot down was replaced with
another, larger flag -- the ship's "holiday colors" -- that
measured 13 feet long.

Concludes one of the declassified NSA documents: "Every
official interview of numerous Liberty crewmen gave
consistent evidence that indeed the Liberty was flying an
American flag -- and, further, the weather conditions were
ideal to ensure its easy observance and identification."

The Israeli court of inquiry that examined the attack, and
absolved the Israeli military of criminal culpability, came
to precisely the opposite conclusion.

"Throughout the contact," it declared, "no American or any
other flag appeared on the ship."

The attack, the court said, had been prompted by a report,
which later proved erroneous, that a ship was shelling
Israeli-held positions in the Sinai Peninsula. The Liberty
had no guns capable of shelling the shore, but the court
concluded that the U.S. ship had been mistakenly identified
as the source of the shelling.

Yiftah Spector, the first Israeli pilot to attack the ship,
told the Jerusalem Post in 2003 that when he first spotted
the Liberty, "I circled it twice and it did not fire on me.
My assumption was that it was likely to open fire at me
and nevertheless I slowed down and I looked and there was
positively no flag."

But the Liberty crewmen interviewed by the Tribune said the
Israeli jets simply appeared and began shooting. They also
said the Liberty did not open fire on the planes because it
was armed only with four .50-caliber machine guns intended
to repel boarders.

"I can't identify it, but in any case it's a military
ship," Spector radioed his ground controller, according
to a transcript of the Israeli air-to-ground communications
published by the Jerusalem Post in 2004.

That transcript, made by a Post reporter who was allowed
to listen to what the Israeli Air Force said were tapes
of the attacking pilots' communications, contained only
two references to "American" or "Americans," one at the
beginning and the other at the end of the attack.

The first reference occurred at 1:54 p.m. local time, two
minutes before the Israeli jets began their first strafing
run.

In the Post transcript, a weapons system officer on the
ground suddenly blurted out, "What is this? Americans?"

"Where are Americans?" replied one of the air controllers.

The question went unanswered, and it was not asked again.

Twenty minutes later, after the Liberty had been hit
repeatedly by machine guns, 30 mm cannon and napalm from
the Israelis' French-built Mirage and Mystere fighter-
bombers, the controller directing the attack asked his
chief in Tel Aviv to which country the target vessel
belonged.

"Apparently American," the chief controller replied.

Fourteen minutes later the Liberty was struck amidships by
a torpedo from an Israeli boat, killing 26 of the 100 or
so NSA technicians and specialists in Russian and Arabic
who were working in restricted compartments below the
ship's waterline.

Analyst: Israelis wanted it sunk

The transcript published by the Jerusalem Post bore scant
resemblance to the one that in 1967 rolled off the tele-
type machine behind the sealed vault door at Offutt Air
Force Base in Omaha, where Steve Forslund worked as an
intelligence analyst for the 544th Air Reconnaissance
Technical Wing, then the highest-level strategic planning
office in the Air Force.

"The ground control station stated that the target was
American and for the aircraft to confirm it," Forslund
recalled. "The aircraft did confirm the identity of the
target as American, by the American flag.

"The ground control station ordered the aircraft to attack
and sink the target and ensure they left no survivors."

Forslund said he clearly recalled "the obvious frustration
of the controller over the inability of the pilots to sink
the target quickly and completely."

"He kept insisting the mission had to sink the target, and
was frustrated with the pilots' responses that it didn't
sink."

Nor, Forslund said, was he the only member of his unit to
have read the transcripts. "Everybody saw these," said
Forslund, now retired after 26 years in the military.

Forslund's recollections are supported by those of two
other Air Force intelligence specialists, working in widely
separate locations, who say they also saw the transcripts
of the attacking Israeli pilots' communications.

One is James Gotcher, now an attorney in California, who
was then serving with the Air Force Security Service's
6924th Security Squadron, an adjunct of the NSA, at Son
Tra, Vietnam.

"It was clear that the Israeli aircraft were being vectored
directly at USS Liberty," Gotcher recalled in an e-mail.
"Later, around the time Liberty got off a distress call,
the controllers seemed to panic and urged the aircraft to
'complete the job' and get out of there."

Six thousand miles from Omaha, on the Mediterranean island
of Crete, Air Force Capt. Richard Block was commanding an
intelligence wing of more than 100 analysts and crypt-
ologists monitoring Middle Eastern communications.

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naijaking1:
If you believe what Bush says, then I have a plot of land for you in a FL swamp!

Life is good. The movie continues, the world is watching and waiting. Thank God 2008 is just around the corner.