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Ibime:
So essentially the "GREAT" fighters Ali fought were just bums that beat Ali?

The only great fighters Ali fought are Liston who dived and Foreman who pummeled him and made him park bus and dodge him the rest of his career

Larry Holmes then didn't allow the great fighters Ali fought to breeve for the next decade. They were great when Ali fought them (because they beat Ali) but showed themselves to be the bums they are when faced with Larry Holmes

obonujoker:
The man no mention coach 😂

Ibime:
Name the big fighters Ken Norton and Joe Frazier beat apart from Ali, I'll wait

Please don't mention Jerry Quarry

A40:
George Foreman knocking out niggas 10-15 years younger is proof power usually carries.

Wilder relies on his hands and heart to be fair. I think the biggest mistake was not teaching him how to actually box. He goes in with the mentality of he has that eraser. Ngannou did not make that mistake. He said he was going there not to rely on the knockout but to actually box because in most fights if you're seeking for the finish and you don't get it there's every possibility you get finished yourself

I still want to see Wilder and AJ. The game can be very different when niggas stop fearing your power. Derrick Lewis is proof of this in the UFC. I want to see if AJ mano y mano in the ring will not fear Wilder's power

Ibime:
I no compare Fury to Ali

I say no allow me open Ali and Lennox records since you tried to rubbish Fury based on exhibition match

One thing is sure, Fury can never lose to the bums Ali and Lennox lost to, neither can Larry Holmes

nihilistjnr:
Apparently McDermott beat Tyson the first time round but Tyson deployed wuruwuru

User09:
As in. Anything just to make Fury seem like what he isnt. Who uses the excuse of lazy, undisciplined and fat for an athlete

Even went as far as comparing with Ali. Ali that beat most boxing greats and hall of famers; Archie Moore, Bob Foster, Ken Norton, Foreman, Floyd Patterson, Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier. He even beat most of them multiple times.

Nothing in Fury's resume even compares. Beats bums or people off their peak or shape, has a history of ducking fights. Not one of his single fight was against a rated opponent who was in top shape.

BlueMann:
Party like you just won a lottery. When e reach our turn, we too go party. Since both our clubs have decided we should be shameless, what to do

Itsrm:
Una no kukuma get shame. You club has one win in the last 7 games and you want to party

Ibime:
McDermott is in his first ten fights, a British Champion like Cooper who Ali was fighting twice and losing to mid-career

Leyqute:
Kolawole Olawuyi cannot unravel the misfortune that has fallen on Chelsea.

Ibime:
No defeats to bums in his record, that's all you need to know

Ibime:
Fury beat every fighter placed Infront of him. He can't fight boxers from Mars. He is not like those who lose to bums just to confer greatness on bums

Fury came back from 4 year layoff after sniffing mountains of cocaine to defeat the Wilder that AJ had been ducking for centuries

Ibime:
Undefeated for 11 years until he met Fury

Ibime:
How many great fighters did Larry Holmes face

Let me give you example, Spinx and Berbick were beating Ali

Larry Holmes took over and never let any of them shine for almost a decade. But somehow Holmes never fought any "greats"

Save the lamba

Ibime:
If the definition of great is a bum who became great because you lose to him, then none.

Greats ko, greats ni

That's why I say Larry Holmes and Tyson Fury are unimpeachable. They lost to no one in their prime and never conferred greatness on bums.

Klitschko is an all-time great and Fury beat him

Ibime:
Like I said initially, we don't don't want to open anyone's record

We've now gone from Henry Cooper to Hassim Rahman to Oliver McCall to the "GREATS" who made Ali's name being beaten like THIEVES by Foreman

Like I said, some of those greats of Ali era are bums who only became great by beating Ali, and Ken Norton is one on them.

Ibime:
Larry Holmes defeated him even with a torn bicep torn 6 days out from the fight, and against Doctors insistence because they needed the title shot

Ibime:
Why was Foreman beating the "great fighters" on Ali resume within 2 rounds? And I mean beating them like thieves

Why did Ali duck rematch with Foreman for the rest of his career

We all know Foreman pummeled Ali and just miscalculated and gassed himself out. Ali parked bus 90 mins and scored with one lucky counterattack

Ibime:
Klitschko and Wilder are great wins

Fury won't be like those who make bums like Norton great just by losing to them

Imagine doing trilogy with bums

If you want to know how much Norton was a bum, check his fights with Gerry Rooney and Foreman

Infact everyone Ali did trilogy with that you liable "great fighters" were obliterated by Foreman like children within few rounds. I mean beaten to stupor like 12 year olds



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-WjL8jIyQ?si=qghXsxtJj-supeIL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HorEqSu7lJs?si=CC1__n8IGsQgcwO5

Ibime:
Show us one L on Fury record, unlike those whose records read McCall, Rahman, Spinx, Norton, Berbick and co