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Roland17:
If you had to guess which would it be? My money is on an adult Anesthesiologist.

Irrespective, I am really interested in specifics of the treatments this kid received from both hospitals.

Too many questions. I feel gutted for the family. They should engage a competent lawyer ASAP and review their options.

Probably an adult anaesthesiologist who maybe did not factor in the fact that tiny differences in dosage can affect a tiny child in more dramatic ways than an adult.

He also probably did not factor in the fact that the child already had a respiratory infection, meaning the breathing was already compromised before adding the propofol which would make things even worse.

The crucial issue however is the claim that he took a child sedated with propofol off monitoring and oxygen to and from the theatre.

I used to use combination of Fentanyl and Propofol when relocating shoulder and hip dislocations for adults and you have to keep the patient on oxygen and telemetry monitoring all the time because of the risk.

GloriousGbola:
imho - it is much more than informed consent. i have signed two or three in the past. what i will say is because we are not a litigious society, and because everyone will cover for themselves and conceal as much as possible, these issues usually end up as embarrassment for the hospital on social media with no consequences

It is informed consent. They will inform you about possible complications that could occur to the patient if the procedure is carried out. Then you sign that you approve for the procedure to go ahead knowing the things that could go wrong.

I always get my patients to sign them but it does not mean I can’t face litigation if I make a big mistake. It does not protect the doctor from facing disciplinary action for grave mistakes and negligence.

The concept of waiver does not exist in medicine. You can’t sign waiver for a human being’s life. It is not a refrigerator or generator that can be easily replaced.

GloriousGbola:
she also has the resources and the clout to drag this

it is not really about exposure. lots of wealthy and exposed nigerians have died or been messed up in naija hospitals

in fact, most naija hospitals first make you sign a waiver before any operation.

it is simply that as nigerians we are more fatalist and more inclined to take it as God's will.

What you call a waiver is most likely an informed consent form, which is standard in most climes.

There is no waiver that will protect a hospital or doctor from gross negligence, incompetence, or substandard clinical practice.

Whatever you sign only protects the doctor/hospital if a potential known complication arises in a situation where the medical team carried out their duties as expected. Any grave error invalidates it.

We should play Mbeumo on the LW, Amad RW, Bruno at the 10 for the next few games. Cunha needs to hug the bench tight for a while until he realises that the players wearing his colour of jersey are there to receive passes.

patrickmuf:
Most of the players we buy are players who did well enough at their previous clubs that made it seem like a reasonable decision. The signing of Cunha and Mbeumo made a whole lot of sense back when they were brought in, a lot of fans felt it was a good decision seeing that we were getting good supporting cast with EPL experience. Cunha is not doing as well as we expected right now but that is down to the benefit of hindsight, you can't start questioning the board when it appeared the reasonable move to make at the time...In fact, it has been a recurring problem for sometime, we sign a good player and he gets here and struggles. As a manager (board), you can't keep changes players especially when we are not getting the cash that comes with playing in the UCL...The only option is to change the manager while sustaining reasonable investment in the team...

Changing the manager is one of the things to do.

Another thing to do is improving our scouting, player identification and general assessment of players.

The scouting of some of these average players might make a lot of sense to a fan who has his own job to do but watches Man United weekly and checks YouTube highlights of a player or watches the player a couple of times a season. Very importantly, it is not the fan’s duty to assess the player.

When we keep buying players that appear not good enough then it is reasonable to ask for more from the staff members whose job it is to study and analyse these players for days, weeks, months before we decide to buy them and the staff whose job it is to approve the deals.

I don’t get what you don’t understand about us improving our assessment of players in addition to changing underperforming managers. We can do both at the same time. It is not an either or issue.

patrickmuf:
So, what is the basis for always mentioning players who majority here agreed were not good enough everything a new player has a bad game?

I am not saying you should not criticise a new player but making reference to a player that was here previously makes no sense especially when that same player was considered not good enough.

But that is exactly what you just said. You said people should criticise the player before he is bought rather than criticising him after he has played for us.

It should concern you as a fan if the club replaces an average player with another average player. It should concern you as a fan if the club replaces a mediocre manager with another mediocre manager.

It tells you that we are not going to get better anytime soon.

patrickmuf:
Are you sure you're following the argument? You can't start saying a player is bad now because you have the benefit of hindsight when he was signed to replace a player you said said was bad. You might not have supported his purchase but you supported that of Sancho before and he came in and struggle.

My point is not to say that people shouldn't be happy over a new signing but that you should not say a new signing is trash compared to the player he replaced when you were here criticising the ex-player while he was here. An instance here is Hojlund who was heavily criticised when he was here, with majority supporting that he should be moved on. Imagine seeing people saying Sesko is not better than Hojlund as if anyone could have predicted same when Sesko was signed.

Where did you get that law from. If a player is trash you have a right to say he is thrash. Whether the previous player was thrash is inconsequential.

Otherwise we can as well say that you can’t say ETH is thrash because you were criticising Ole. Or you can’t say Amorim is thrash because you were criticising ETH. Or you can’t say INEOS is thrash cos you were criticising Woodward.

You assess each situation on its merits. Even the club management who made the mistake and replaced thrash player with thrash player sometimes concede that player 2 is thrash and bin him, why can’t fans do the same when it wasn’t the fans who made the mistake.

patrickmuf:
This is what the benefit of hindsight can do...When McFred was here, we all said they were not good enough for the club. I'd like for people to give their honest opinion when a player is bought and not come here months later to lament when in all honesty, they celebrated the purchase of the player when he arrived.

I did not celebrate Ugarte. I actually warned that he was severely limited.

Apart from that it is ingenuous of you to expect fans to properly assess a player from YouTube highlights or 1-2 games they have seen of a player compared to when the player is playing week in week out for their team.

Having said that, even from the YouTube highlights it was clear to some that Ugarte was thrash but you championed him here. That goes to show you that nobody is infallible. Fans are allowed to change their minds on a player when they get more data on the player.

nitrogen:
Dalot did well in the first half making runs and getting into good positions for one on one with the keeper. It surprising that you would refer to 3 at the back at this point when it’s a major reason Amorim was sacked.

And FYI, some of the players are crap, not all.

Sope Olohun. 😂😂😂

patrickmuf:
We need wingers. I don't understand where Mount is playing from.

Mount on the right. Cunha on the left. The problem Is that both of them like to play centrally.

We are still playing better than Brighton though but have not been able to finish our chances with Dalot being the major culprit.

Mount out for Lacey is the move for the 2nd half IMO.

engrelvis:
Tbh I don't really understand metamorphosis of lwobi in that midfield.

He is a good player who is at his peak and is playing in the right system. He also now has a great deal of experience in African football (4th most capped player in SE history) and is still under 30.

If you revert to playing him in a 2-man midfield with 2 wingers and Lookman supporting Osimhen, he won't be as impressive.

Roland17:
When I got to that scenario, I knew the kid was in serious trouble.

It would be interesting to know if it was an adult anaesthesiologist or a paediatric anaesthesiologist.

Theflint1:
From the way it was put na team get am. This na extra motivation for the team to go all the way.

Excellent. Make them just clarify am before people start shooting from halfway line.

How is that an Egyptian goal kick? Alert don enter.

patrickmuf:
They've pulled a goal back.

They have pulled a goal forward again. He can't avoid his fate. lol

izzou:
BUA get money sha oh!

Kai!

Na why all these noisemakers for SE dey tire me.

Person go dash person 10 million, come do content wey pass documentary

See as person pledge $1,000,000 with SM post.

God abeg!

He is top 3 in Nigeria nau. Power of compound interest.

It is looking like both Mbeumo and Amad will be available for the City game.

izzou:
Money na water

Extra money for goal scored? Shared by the team or only to the goalscorer. Na this kind thing dey stop players from passing to each other in front of goal.

Roland17:
https://www.nairaland.com/8596575/adichie-releases-account-sons-death

Sad story..Nigeria happened to that poor kid..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_hd0GQaTgI&list=RDa_hd0GQaTgI&start_radio=1&pp=ygUWb253dSBkaSBuam8gYnkgb3NhZGViZaAHAQ%3D%3D

Very sad story. If what she said is true, the anaesthesiologist should face disciplinary measures. The hospital also needs to be investigated.

Ellexy:
When you swing to far to the left, it will swing right back at the other end. Calling Trump a fascist is a democratic talking point.

I never heard anyone call Trump a fascist before so i don't know what you mean by democratic talking point. I called him a fascist because i know how fascists behave and he behaves like one.

You seem to be admitting he is a fascist anyway by admitting things have swung to the extreme right.

Very good performance so far.

NFF kept us from qualifying for the world cup.

Theflint1:
The problem is neither Trump nor ICE, it's the US's gun laws.

Gun laws have existed for years. ICE has existed for years.

Trump is the one who wants to make America white (red) again. Forcefully. Violently.

This is what you get when you elect a card-carrying narcissist and fascist with no moral compass as president.

MRTA7:
Hopefully Mbeumo is catching a flight back to Manchester tonight.

He is not playing this weekend. Already decided and that’s the reasonable thing to do.

Every 50-50 going in favour of Morocco. Even fouls committed by Morocco are blown against Cameroon.

Mali GK giveth, Mali GK taketh away.

izzou:
Logobenz was Nwan.neni, right?

I am not sure.

WhoDeyHause:
Omo you dey game egbon. Logo, stilmatic OG and others. Both orijo and lie till them burst open your fowl yansh. If one is not sensible you will just allow them use stories put you in depression
Seun dey come learn one or two to use his nl funds to clap big booty bitches. Introvert body no be firewood.

Logo and stilmatic. You go see as men dey beg them for either giveaway or expo on how to tame esteemo. Hehehehe.

WhoDeyHause:
Aro of blessed memory.
That thread had heavy motion back then before it turned to something else. Even seunn dey come dey peep sometimes.

Seun dey come learn one or two things at that time. I remember logo that time, wey dey spend people annual salary on weekly esteemo and him account no shake.

WhoDeyHause:
I think she was trying to flee cause of fear from the way I saw it though. Though liberals can be dramatic this was a death that could have been avoided from the beginning. The officer could have also shot in the air or the windscreen but not aim at the driver's seat though he'll say he did it in self defense but I don't believe the woman was trying to kill him.

This is why i said that US law enforcement officers are prone to escalating situations. Many of the situations that end up with them gunning down people do not really need to end that way, but it looks like they approach situations hoping that you try them, which means any mistake on your part is interpreted as you doing just that.

User09:
Hehehe

Me that is Asexual

BTW, during that Esteemo ultimate search that you sent me on which I eventually found using the Nairaland Search, I saw some horror and nasty nasty. There was one funny and repulsive thread title - Lovers of BBW, SSBBW and Fat women. I almost shrieked when I saw the title

Nawa oo, Is that what you esteemo lovers are into ?

Ehn Doc?.

No be me and you

izzou:
Na una country oh. No be my own.

More bullets to their guns

Trump is fascist at his core. So is Putin and that is why they understand themselves better than most.

US law enforcement were already traditionally trigger-happy and you now place them under the control of a fascist. This is what you will get.

In the western world US law enforcement are the ones I see who often appear to try to escalate situations when they accost civilians, rather than try to de-escalate things like the professionals that they are meant to be. Their training period is also the shortest in the western world.

A lot of ill-trained, power-drunk bullies in police uniform in the US.

User09:
True to type .

Funny how the other day I spent close to 30 mins searching for the meaning of the word 'esteemo' that you used in your response to Izzou.

I wonder why Raumdeuter has not tried to induct you into the school of polygamy

He knows that I am a God-fearing man. I no dey succumb to peer pressure like that.

No go wind us about the time you spent searching for the word. That you don’t know the word does not mean you don’t apply the principles. Swear by 2027 election result that you don’t have and have never had esteemos before. Hehehe.