₦airaland Forum

Where are Coogar's hype men?

Otamendi has been a really big heap of shyte this season and the Otamendi/Mangala partnership is the main reason City have not run away with the title yet.

RVP has not exactly set the Turkish league alight either.

Lacazette has been firing blanks on all cylinders in the French league and Anderson has disappeared from Europe like the fart of a leprous witch

And Torres? Torres that has scored just.....in fact the less said about Torres the better.

Ibime:
Maldini may make the greatest 11 but never for a specific position. He is too much of a centreback to be compared with great attacking leftbacks like Brehme and Breitner.

The difference between em is anywhere Brehme and Breitner receive the ball, they are great players. You cant compare Maldini to them once they cross the halfway line. Same goes for Alaba.

For Brehme to win Serie A player of the year in a time when it was far and above the best league with niggas like Van Basten, Maradona and Gullit around, you know he must be using serious juju.

Likewise Breitner scored in 2 world cup finals. Na yam?

As for me, Alaba is the best Ive seen in my time. Solid defensively, a wizard on the wing, a cultured powerhouse in midfield. What more can I say about the boy? He is only 23 or so and been bossing for 4 or 5 years. He has reached the pinnacle of club football so I have no choice but to put him in that category even at this early stage as he has conquered club football already and cannot be expected to be judged on international stage with Austria.

If you can't put Maldini on that list cos he was too much of a CB then Breitner should be off to cos he was too much of a midfielder .
I am sure nobody on NL watched Breitner play LB live because he had switched to the midfield by the 80s.
Of all those I watched live I would place Maldini 1st ,then Brehme. Alaba would be in the next level with Cole ,Lizarazu e.t.c but will likely pass them soon injury permitting .
Maldini,Brehme and Breitner are ahead of Alaba. Krol,Santos and Faccheti are ahead of him.

Of those I saw live Maldini is no 1. Maldini while playing LB was no 2 in the 1995 FIFA WORLD PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARDS....Brehme never got that high and the serie A award he (Brehme) won was also won by Ruud Krol towards the end of his career lol

All time based on reputation and tapes Fachetti may be no 1

Ibime:
Cole is arguably the best left back in the noughties. . .

But Alaba is competing with Andreas Brehme and Paul Breitner for greatest left-back of all time. The boy is that good.

Paolo Maldini, Giacinto Faccheti and Nilton Santos say hi.
Antonio Cabrini and Ruud Krol are also waving from the lower rung. Alaba is very very good but no way is he on the list of best ever YET.
And even if he has to displace people at the very top those would be would be Maldini and Faccheti not Brehmer. Breitner's greatness was all round not just at left back but also central midfield. As left backs Brehme and Breitner < Maldini, Faccheti

He has to continue to improve to the next level and maintain that for a few years then he can be considered. I will give you that he can make that list in the future based on his age, performances and potential.

chrisley024:
Worst display of the season maybe but 3 points in bag and kudos to Rooney


Seriously, Martial should be cautioned. His holding unto the ball and trying too many dribbles are becoming disgusting. Reason I don't see him as a CF.

That is what happens when a young play comes into a team and he is the best player or seen as the saviour of the team. Subconsciously he buys into the hype and starts trying to do too much. Also there is nobody of experience playing well enough to have that confidence to caution him.
Same thing happened to Adnan

SIRcumalot:
Una see how Fellani can sometimes be effective ?
Liverpool dey run ring around us from the beginning but one corner don change am.

Thank you rooney

We are not Bolton or Stoke to be fielding a midfielder who can't play midfield just to wait for his occasional knock downs.

elampiro:
Fellaini just watched Henderson pulled away freely into our box. No passion to prevent goal threats.

I saw that move. Is it that he has no passion to defend or more likely it is just that Fellaini is too dull to comprehend a dangerous situation.

elampiro:
Not his fault. Lingard is not in the game.

Young messed up 2 or 3 simple early passes to Lingard that could have helped set up the boy in good positions. Each time Young kicked the ball out for a throw in.
Young was one of the reasons Lingard was not in the game.
Everybody has been poor in this 1st half with no exception.

The next managerial appointment will determine whether we will fade away like Liverpool or get back to the top in the EPL.
Also we have to buy the right sort of player and have good balance in our team.
The only 1st 11 players I see in this squad are De Gea, Smalling, Shaw, Martial and maybe Schneiderlin. The rest are squad players

Young was playing rubbish before his injury self
The whole team has been poor

Sinzu abi Wetin be your name?
How you go take dey attack my patient inside sick bay? Fear God o!
Arsenal has never won a UCL/European Cup title and Arsene has never won a European title....a match made in heaven

Kemizee:
Funny that some here call Herrera average.The guy is a bloody good midfielder when used in a more advanced pyramid position.Moreso,Van Gaal's restrictive kind of football is negating players from playing to their strengths.Having no National team cap doesn't mean a player is not good enough.U av to look at d context of d country he is representing.As at 2013,David Silva,Isco,Mata,Javi Martinez,Fabregas,Carzola were all regulars on the Spanish National team because Xavi,Iniesta and Busquets reigned supreme.Dt doesn't mean they are average.As it stands,De Gea who is on current form the best GK in the worlf still has to contend with Casillas who is the media darling.Casillas will probably be first choice at next euros.Think abt that.Lets bring this closer home.Odion Ighalo was playing very well in d Championships yet Didn't av a Nigeria National cap until recently.Caps and appearances don't tell d whole story.

Cazorla who started playing early on in that era and had to contend with Xavi,Xabi alonso and busquests at their best has 77 caps
Koke who came towards the end and is younger than Herrera has 19 caps
Iturraspe who is his age mate and former team mate at Bilbao and is relatively unknown has caps
Raul Garcia, Susaeta have caps.

I am not saying caps tell the WHOLE story but in this case they give you a sign that maybe he is not as good as you guys here are making him to be. He is not a world class or great player but an average to slightly above average player Das all

I can only hope today's matches all end in draws. Best outcome for us

Dadehmola:
I bin no dey like table Herrera matter for here because it seemed as if nobody saw any limitations in his ability. I have never really been impressed with him but because of the "love" wey hin get for here, I started looking for his "greatness" by force.

Unfortunately, I still dey find those "qualities" that make him a "top-player"

He is a decent passer of the ball but his passing can be careless at times and he is just average or above average at most things he does. This guy couldn't have taken Js park's shirt. His otondo team mates are making him look better than he is. Like I once said at his age he has 0 Spanish caps, it is not a fluke.

Another weak point is Blind who is so good with the ball but a defensive liability of the highest order. He is too slow at Lb against most wingers
He is too weak at CB against most strikers.
If I push comes to shove I would play Schneiderlin and Blind in midfield as a double pivot because I do not want Blind anywhere in my defence .

Dadehmola:
We were told that his "magnetic chest control" is an asset to the team...



I actually believed Mata was gonna come good but the bitter truth is that - aside his goals & assists, I cannot remember the Spaniard influencing proceedings for us the way a £37m #10 should do ( even in matches in which he played in the hole.)


TBH, Herrera has always struck me as an average player but I waited & waited for him to prove me wrong. As it is, my earlier assertion still stands. .

.

I don't blame them Sha I blame Coogar that snake oil salesman who would sell ice to the Eskimos and sand to the Tuaregs.

SIRcumalot:
@afrodoc2 and dadehmola where una due yesterday when I was been corn holed on Herrera matter ?
I'll still keep fellani for when will try long ball style in some situations but his performance yesterday no help at all

I did not sleep to watch the yeye match, match was 6.45 am local time here
Immediately that dummett shot entered I just went to bed

Dadehmola:
We were told that his "magnetic chest control" is an asset to the team...



I actually believed Mata was gonna come good but the bitter truth is that - aside his goals & assists, I cannot remember Mata influencing proceedings for us the way a £37m #10 should do ( even in matches in which he played in the hole.)


TBH, Herrera has always struck me as an average player but I waited & waited for him to prove me wrong. As it is, my earlier assertion still stands. .

.


Most times one does not closely study players until the come to one's team
An example is Valencia and his dead left foot, another is Anderson and his inability to shoot with his instep.
Mata has zero pace,zero power and close to zero dribbling ability,his right foot his zero and he can't shield the ball.
He is good at padding his stats but he is not a major factor.

SIRcumalot:
@afrodoc2
Na the whole midfield aside from Morgan you diss there

Yes
Midfield has 3 jobs
1) control tempo
2) contribute to attack with goals and assists and chances created
3) protect the defence

In 2 and 3 it is an obvious fail. The 1 self it is this boring and impotent tempo control.
I was never sold on Mata and Fellaini who are too extremist for my liking ( One is all power no skill or brain and the the other is all brain no power). Only thing they share in common is their propensity to move at the inverse of the speed of light.
Carrick and Schweinsteiger ..... Watch the Arsenal match Das all.
Herrera is a slightly above average player who appears so good because all around him is putrid.

I said long ago that fellain was not United quality but Coogar and his guys were saying something else.
Also with the way United is expected to play there is no place for Mata or Herrera and anyway I do not think they are good enough.

It is easy to join the band wagon and make fun of Elampiro cos of his love for PACE and PAWA but that is exactly what this team needs.

Carrick Herrera schweinsteiger and fellaini are hurting this team defensively. Too much pressure on d defenders because all our attackers and midfielders are shadow markers.
Herrera who tries to get stuck in lacks both the strength and tackling technique to be of real help. We saw Depay tracking back yesterday only to be of no help and rather assisting the opponents.
The buck stops at the desks of LVG and Woody cos it is criminal to spend so much money and have a team without a reliable central midfield ,no 7 and no reliable 10.

Who were the people hyping this okore when villa signed him? The guy is a very very untidy footballer, plays as if the ball is hexagonal in shape.

elrony:
Elfie elfemminniate1 dey your clinic...

No he is still in ICU, he is yet to open his eyes but he has been moaning "Adelana diariz God o" for the last 1 hour.

Nihilist:
I hear say you and Adelana don start partnership too a la 'white men can't jump'

You send him to beat them up so you can charge them for treatment...

Is it a bad thing to try to make amends for one's bad deeds? If I mistakenly ask someone to "reset" somebody and he causes grievous bodily harm don't I have a responsibility to try and treat those wounds at a subsidised cost?

Nihilist:
Ahh I hope you weren't the doctor on duty...

Rumour has it that the last time Nyabinghi was sent to the sickbay, you were attempting to treat his broken bones with drip and iodine

Why won't I use drip and iodine for binghi when he promised to pay me in U.S pounds sterling
You can't doubt my skills. All the victims of Funlord who are still alive and walking the corridors of NL have me to thank for patching them up.

Omo who go pay Elfenomeno hospital bill? Dayo he didn't run away o, he was under general anaesthesia in the operating theatre.

weedtaker:
herrera is good enough to get a starting shirt in any top team . Today is the first time he'd played in a 4.3.3 flat.

Starting shirt in barca? Starting shirt at Bayern? Starting at Real Madrid ?
He is not world class, only world class players can claim that. He is 26yrs and has 0 caps for Spain, there is a reason.

With the fit players we could go

------------------de gea------------------
----young----jones----smalling----Damian-

---------------schneiderlin----------------

--------hererra-----------blind------------

--memphis------rooney-------martial----

weedtaker:
go ask micheal owen If Van gaal would be staying, he should revert to 4 3 3 [flat], as for blind, dude is very intelligent, his vission is superb and he's one of the best ball passers in europe, i still think he can play in a midfield that consist of schneirdeLin and Herrera, mata on the hand 've nothing to do in a 4 3 3 (flat) formation, he should leave and take fellaini along.

The 4-3-3 idea is actually not bad. Blind is w very good passer indeed, it's just sad seeing labouring to get to the easiest and nearest of balls. He busts his gut to get to balls 10 yards away.
LVG has just been very clueless and rigid in his thinking, that dogmatic nature is both his strength and his weakness.

chrisley024:
that his spinning dey vex me eeh! Even Herrera is beginning to do it. A fast RWF needed asap

We need a 10,9,7 and another midfielder .
Blind, herera, schweini, depay to become squad players. Carrick to retire and Rooney sold to AC Milan ( the only team more mugu than Utd)

chrisley024:
that his spinning dey vex me eeh! Even Herrera is beginning to do it. A fast RWF needed asap

Herrera too has his own problems just that cos many of us are desperate for results we don't see the issues.
He lacks the awareness of danger to play in central midfield in the EPL.
His concentration is not optimal and he is a risky passer. Almost every match I see him turn into danger in midfield.
He is really a squad player in my opinion, there is a train he is still uncapped at his age.

weedtaker:
he should go and sitdown wit his link up plays and passing, see empty net de mugu no fit dive, head ball. we should get a cf dis january that can just score goals, weda na from championship or conference league i no care.

I said since last season that we needed to offload both Rvp and Rooney cos their days as world class strikers was up.
However the quick tendency to blame Rooney everything on this thread blocks deep analysis of the situation.
Yes Rooney is not good enough to start as CF, but that is just one of our problems.

Blind is a problem playing anywhere on the pitch. He struggles with pace, he struggles with height, he struggles with power and he wants to play in the EPL? He is great on the ball but as a defender most of his job is off the ball.

We run an escort service in midfield whereby anybody with skill and speed to run at our defense gets escorted for 20,30,40 yards. The only dependable tackler in midfield is Schneidelin.

Mata is a major reason why our counter attacks break down . He can't shield the ball properly, gets knocked off too easily, can't dribble and can't run. Over depends on his left foot passing, spinning and spinning on one spot until the opposition defenders settle in place, turning a Man Utd counter into an opposition counter.

weedtaker:
I heard rooney was given motm 4 what he displayed diz nyt.
Dis league dn die

Rooney did ok today. His link up play and touch and passing were some of his best this season . Obviously he was not MOTM though
It's easy to blame Rooney for all our woes as some people have been doing but this team's problems are deeper than that.

We all know we need a better striker than Rooney but there are other important areas that need to be addressed.
1) Mata is not pace or tricky enough to be our RWF........we need someone on that wing to give our attack balance.

2) We need a good 10, Herrera,Rooney and Mata are all subpar in my opinion and for different reasons .

3) Going forward we need a partner for Schneiderlin in central midfield. Carrick and Schwein are expired products.....less said about Fellaini the better.

Over all we lack both pace and power in midfield. Despite all our possession the few times Hazard, Pedro and even Matic decided to run through our midfield it was far too easy for them. An in form team would have punished us.

And darmian is an idi.iot, that matic chance came from his mumuness