₦airaland Forum

We have come to expect composed finishing from Martial but what impressed me most about his goal was his instinctive run across the defender thereby making it almost impossible for the defender to tackle him legally. This boy is looking really good....but there is still lots of work to be done.

raumdeuter:
I agree with Schmeichel, Keane, Scholes, Vidic, Ruud, Stam. Scholes is the only World class English player I would put in the list

I know you go always go against the English players. Rio was definitely world class whether you like it or not....Becks was also in the middle part of his United career.

Fergie always has an agenda with his statements. At certain points in their United careers Schmeichel, Roy Keane, David Beckham, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Nemanja Vidic, Ruud Van Nistelrooy were world class.
There are reasons why Fergie has a soft spot for the 4 that he mentioned.

Nicky Butt was not world class.

Nihilist:
Choi...

Ok let me have some medicinal marijuana in that case.

I no get. go meet our in house Rasta man

Nihilist:
Yee!!!

As I raised my head to shout "shots f..." Dopejemi used stray bullet to scatter my femur...

Na to watch this one from inside sick bay.

Abeg doctor give me 2 drips.

No drip today, funlord victims don finish the drip. Abi u go take Zobo in drip form?

I agree that it appears that Coogar has it in for Rooney ( same way it appears that Elamps and Bingi have a share in Rooney's salary ).

However it took months and months of sustained rubbish from Rooney before he lost support on this thread. I was in support of Rooney until last year when i decided that both he and RVP had to leave for this team to move forward.

Even last season if we had given Wilson a continuous run of STARTING matches he would have delivered more than RVP,Rooney and Falcao.
In playing those 3 expired players we had basically no strikers last year.

lekkie073:
with the exception of cantona, no marquee signing has done utd good....
from porbosky-stam-veron-di maria-falcao.....

compare to relatively unknown players like evra vidic js park ronaldo....

the best united players are always those that joined the senior team in their teenage years....thereby giving them the opportunity to grow into the team ....scholes giggs Beckham keane ronaldo rooney

I personally have never digged the idea of utd going for established players ....they just dont suit us

Stam that won 3 EPL titles and champions league in 3 yrs was a flop?

Was Ruud Van Nistelroy not a marquee signing? Was Rio Ferdinand not a marquee signing?

It is not only about being marquee or not marquee, it is about getting the right player in terms of talent, physicality, personality and mentality. We need players with talent who are fighters (both mind and body) not lazy mofos like Veron and Di Maria

raumdeuter:
Do you guys remember me saying this?

It was not exactly a shocker. I was not expecting him to play 90mins week in week out. And he was brought more for personality, leadership e.t.c that just purely football.

Meanwhile Schweini and Herrera combo probably cost us this game......LVG and the players underrated PSV.

There is no composure and there are no leaders in this team.....and there is no plan. WHAT DO THEY TALK ABOUT IN THOSE THEIR WEEKLY MEETINGS?

Schweinsteiger is tired. cant play 90mins

PURELY Darmian's fault

Even though it has been challenging for Martial i am seeing a lot of promise in him

Nah , just saw it again. Tibia until proven otherwise.

Meanwhile Darmian has to clean up his act. He is a bit of a liability when defending set pieces. He is usually more interested in holding and pulling his opponent rather than actually MARKING.

Mourinholic:
You are already a doc, I can't argue with my boss
M sure you know what happens if his ligaments are involved.... Shaw is a guy I like

E no mean, u still might be right that it is fibula but i just caught a glimpse of the angulation that made me suspect it was tibial #

That injury has shaken our boys

Mourinholic:
Fibula is more prone to injury than Tibia.... it takes a great deal to break tibia

Fibula is more prone to be broken but bros not a week goes by that i don't see a broken tibia in my ED shifts.....usually soccer, motor cross, and footie.
If someone jams your tibia with weight e go break nicely. Having said that i hope it is fibula not tibia.

P.S I said tibia because of the brief glimpse of the leg that i saw

Pataki:
Wow for the EHBO to have been called on the field....that is a serious facking injury!

It looked like a fracture of the upper tibia, we can only hope that the knee joint and its ligaments are not involved. This is the kind of injury that can alter a career.

broken bone
most likely tibia. p.h.u.ck
this guy is unlucky

I expect Young, Mata and Depay to rotate and switch positions behind Martial while Bastian and Herrera sit in midfield

Team News.

De Gea
Darmian
Smalling
Blind
Shaw
Schweinsteiger
Herrera
Young
Mata
Depay
Martial.

Very attacking line up

Pataki:
Man of peace? You want me to bring out your ratings as stated by Nihilist some days ago?

The dude is entitled to his opinion. Just as some of your manure fans will come here to state that Depay is better than Hazard. It is their opinion. Every fan believes in his players. So if the dude rates Walcott as the better version of Messi or whatever, that is his personal opinion. Before he made known his opinion, he clearly gave a premise that Walcott needs positional awareness.


Or is this the new thing on this board to start silencing people from expressing their respective opinions about players in their team?

Bros i hail, Nihilist too dey exaggerate jare.
Nobody dey silence anybody o, we no get Gestapo here.
However if you come on a public forum to voice ya opinions then u must be ready to face the criticism of that same opinion.

debosky:
^^ Opinions are what make the game go round. We don't see a need to assault a fellow club member because he holds a given view.

Messi is better than Ronaldo is an opinion, Pele is better than Di Stefano is an opinion, Afang soup is better than Egusi is an opinion,
Ode Remo is more beautiful than Ile Oluji is an opinion..............Walcott is a better finisher than Ronaldo and Aguero is an ignorant and felonious nonsense. I am a man of peace so i wont insult the author of that pearl of "non"wisdom.

P.S Debo u that know better why are you allowing your fellow Gunners perish for lack of knowledge?

Disagreeing with someone's opinion is one thing, not giving some one a necessary corrective E-slap is another thing.
Nihilist, Dopejemi, Dadehmola and many others can attest to the fact that i am a man of peace BUT PLS WADA HELL IS WALCOTT IS A BETTER FINISHER THAN AGUERO AND RONALDO?
The guy blaspheme confidently like say e don drink plenty Orijin and all his club mates were looking on say na him opinion, no wonder such delusional "opinions" will thrive in certain climes.

elampiro:
Sinizia, you go pay me for this work. Time na money.


Rooney
2003/4 Macedonia 1. Leicheisten 1. Iceland 2.

2007/8 Estonia 1

2008/9 Belarus 2. khazastan 2. Khazastan 1. Andorra 2.

2012/13 San Marino 2. San Marino 1. Montenegro 1.

2013 /14 Montenegro 1.

2014/15 San Marino 1. Montenegro 1. Estonia 1. Lithuania 1

2015/16 San Marino 1


Against strong teams
2003/2004 Denmark 1. Switzerland 2. Croatia 2.
2005/6 Denmark 1. Argentina 1.
2006/7 Netherlands 1.
2007/8 Russia 1
2008/9 Croatia 1.
2009/10 Croatia 1
2010 /11 Switzerland 1.
2011/12 Bulgaria 2. Ukraine 1
2012/13 Poland 1. Brazil 1
2013/14 Poland 1. Ecuador 1. Uruguay 1
2014/15 Norway 1. Scotland 2. Slovenia 1. Slovenia 1.

It looks like I have left out two of Rooney's goal in my compilation. I tried I can't go back. The Berbatov's compilation took so much energy from me because I checked over and over to see if I could get missing matches.

Note : Teams I categorized as weak are those with no history of major tournament experience as at when the matches were played.

I was the one who started calling Berbatov a flat track bully...with good reason.
All the skill in the world but he underachieved BADLY with what God blessed him with.
The guy will be loading goals against yeye teams but when the kitchen gets hot he runs out through the window.

raumdeuter:
Don't forget uefa cup, euro cup

You can always trust Henry to go missing at crucial times

That is true. Euro 2000 against Italy.
I already mentioned the UEFA Final against Gala in which Hagi got a red card early in extra time.

When you play about 10 finals without scoring a goal it is no fluke but a pattern. When you score goals in about 7 finals too it is no fluke but a pattern.

Is Henry better? YES
Is he better by miles? NO

DD scored in 4 different FA Cup Finals, 3 different League Cup Finals and the Champions League Final.

Henry played in 3 FA Cup Finals, 2 Champions League Finals, a World Cup Final scoring..............................0.

Ibime:
It is on record that Henry was happy with Zidanes retirement after Euro 2004. Henry felt Zidane slowed the game down and with Zidane out of the way, he would profit from rapid counterattacking footie he was used to at Arsenal. After struggling in qualifying, Domenech had to go beg Zidane to return to the fold, the rest is history.

I have watched all International tournaments since Henry's debut. He has not done anything outstanding on the International stage, he simply rode the coattails of his teammates. Christophe Dugarry did more for France than Henry, that's how unremarkable his international career was.

I would take DD over Henry in any big game, however I also consider Henry to be the most outstanding striker in EPL history. It's a hard one to call. I would choose Henry to prosecute a season and use DD for the big games if given the choice.

Exact same point i made.
Henry had the superior talent and over the course of a whole season he gets the nod, but if it is a single game for all the marbles it has to be DD.

Nihilist:
The Inter Game was a 'must win' group match if Arsenal were to proceed to the knockout stages. That's a high profile big game against the 2nd best team in Italy at the time.

Finishing 2nd, 12 points behind the Barca team that would win a double+ super cup that year does not make Madrid 'poor'. As we know Barcelona would do that to any other team in the world.

Listing Arsenal's biggest rivals during his era,one would argue that games against these opponents can be justifiably classed as 'Big Games'

Overall Arsenal record: 316 starts, 215 goals.

vs Manchester United: Games 13, Goals 8
vs Tottenham Hotspur: Games 12, Goals 5
vs Chelsea: Games 17, Goals 8.
vs Liverpool: Games 15, Goals 8.
Big Game totals: Games 57, Goals 29.

Infact one would argue that due to the nature of the quality of teams he faced in some of his finals (Brazil,Italy,Barca), he was facing the only teams in the world with quality to nullify Henry's goal threat

So I'm not sure how Drogba is that much better than Henry in these 'Big Games'

He got the red card against you guys in the UCL final in Moscow. In the UCL final against Bayern he gave away a penalty, which if Robben had converted, we would probably not have won. He missed a penalty in the 2006 final shootout against Egypt. then failed from the spot during the 2012 final against Zambia.

Is it scoring in a couple of FA Cup finals that makes the Drogba the better 'Big Game' Player?

I don't like the idea of demystifying a Chelsea Legend, but Henry >> Drogba in every aspect .

That Madrid team full of aging stars and Pavon,Gravesen, Carlos Diogo et al was average.
Inter was must win but was group stage.

Henry was the better player but Henry's fecal performances against Gala and Liverpool (single-handedly losing Arsenal the title on both occasions) would stand the test of time.

It is fair to compare both players. Henry also underachieved for France IMO especially when asked to lead the team

Omo Dutch football is dead....it is sad

Nihilist:
What is this high profile 'No Show'?

In 2003, Henry inspired Arsenal to a 5-1 Trashing of the Inter team that beat them 3-0 only a few weeks before to progress in the UCL

In 2006, Henry went to shit on the Legacy of General Franco by scoring the goal that led Arsenal to become the 1st English team to ever win at the Bernabeu, Knocking Madrid out BTW

Or is it the game against Liverpool that their unbeaten season when he rescued arsenal from a 2-1 deficit at halftime by scoring a Hattrick?

How can Henry be labelled a High Profile no-show? Or a Flat Track Bully?

Henry has scored against [size=18pt]34 of the 35 teams[/size] he has faced in the Barclays Premier League. The only team he faced and not scored against were Swansea City, against whom he played 24 minutes as a substitute during his brief comeback in the 2011/12 season.

Messi hasn't scored in a World Cup or Copa America final. Would you even dare to compare Drogba to Messi on some frivolous 'Big Game Player' games.


Doctor please...I'm a hard in the paint Chelsea fan...but comparing Drogba to Henry is an insult to va va voom.

Anybody can be compared to anybody bros.
I have said Henry is the better player but Drogba had a better record in finals.
Are you talking of the Madrid side that finished 12 points behind Barca and 2 points ahead of Osasuna? It was a relatively weak Madrid side.
The Inter victory which i remember cos of the way Henry disgraced Zanetti was a group stage match if i remember correctly.

You can compare 2 greats of the game. Henry was the better player but Drogba performed better in big games.

Nihilist:
There's nothing subjective about it jor.

Thiery Henry is the best striker to have played in the EPL era thus far.

This is the guy many people felt was robbed of a Balon D'or at least twice.

Drogba is a Legend, but Henry is already deified

Henry is the better player but he had some high profile "no shows".
Without thinking far i remember UEFA Cup final against 10 man Galatasaray( Hagi red carded) and the F.A Cup final against Liverpool.

There was something of the flat track bully in Henry (like Berbatov LOL). Legend no doubt and he has a statue in front of the stadium but Drogba performed better in the big games IMO.

In any situation other than a final match or desperation time last 10minutes e.t.c i would choose Henry but in a match for your lives i go with Drogba the ultimate overachiever.