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lalaboi:
A lot of you Hazard this and thats are here for this but i am not. its obvious dude has lost form and short of confidence. The same people who criticize will be the ones to praise when he's back at the level of last season.


The results will come. Hazard will come good and everyone will forget this happened. It is football . . .and life!

There are great dribblers who move at pace and leave their markers for dead. Men like Maradona, Ronaldinho, Bruno Conti, Messi e.t.c

Then there are drimblers who drimble around without getting away from their markers e.g Okocha, Wiltord, Vikash Dhorasoo.
Hazard is a drimbler

Based on talent level Hazard is the worst performer in this Chelsea team. Costa is suspect but he has never been a Messi or Aguero. Give him very good chances and he will score a few goals.
I see more dynamic play from Willian and even Pedro than Hazard. He just spends seconds holding on to the ball and cutting back and forth without actually going PAST his marker and the few times he does he holds on to the ball before passing the ball a few seconds too late.

PietroRico:
'You have to ask what happened with Cesc, Matic, Costa LAST season, not what has happened with them this season. This is their level'

The greatest disappointment has actually been Fabregas. He is the one with the long term history of quality play and class. He is only 28 but playing like a 38yr old.....No pace, no fight, no graft, no stamina. At the same time playing like an 18yr old....no tactical discipline, no positional awareness, no leadership.

Matic last season might have been a flash in the pan, remains to be seen. Diego Costa was always suspect.

And all beef aside Hazard has actually regressed. He dribbles around without actually beating people and entering the box, his shooting is still inconsistent, he tends to waltz his way into blind alleys, his passing under pressure is mediocre AND very crucially he often kills the flow of attacking moves by holding on to the ball for too long and then doing nothing with the ball.

The way Chelsea is playing they will win a title next season...........the Football League Championship.

All Shekpe fans please repeat after me, we need to go spiritual.

It is what we tell Ogbon that Ogbon accepts, it is what we tell Ogba that Ogba takes.......

It did not spoil during the time of Olugbon, it did not spoil during the life of Aresa
May it not spoil during the time of Mourinho

Joeace3000:
And these will come to united thread to troll... When the reality of relegation is staring them in the face

All na defense mechanism, Shekpe fans are undergoing psychological torture and torment .......i can't blame them.

Una neva see nuffin!
Shebi na people dey here dey laff us under Moyes. Una dey sink like the Titanic

omo is Matic sick? i mean is he ill? See how Afellay of all people bullied him!

raumdeuter:
Not me, Na coogar start am. I was sleeping when I heard airmark already grunting under coogar.

I just told him to use lube so airmark wont have VVF

You be accessory be that. Eyin mejeji e laanu walahi. But when airmark is able to talk i want to ask him which UCL season he was talking about?

This Hazard is very good mehn, e sabi dribble well well. Who does he remind me of o..........YES! He reminds me of Ben Jaga who was in final year when i was in part 1 in med school.

P.S I actually think he plays more like Segelu who was in Part 1 when i was in final year.

coogar:
it wasn't a räpe session.
airmark consented to the act!

Mr man tell that to the cops. You guys no get pity at all at all. However your case even better you be accomplice, Dayo na main cuprit.

Meanwhile Shawcross is an idiotic captain.....ba discipline

Nihilist:
Oh boy....

Una never see nothing, Stoke still dey bring bird from inside bag

Thank God i packed my aso ebi

We have just transferred airmark from ICU to the ward. It was a close thing but he survived the early phase on life support. He is now able to breathe on his own and is allowed to take sips of ogi and kunu but no solid food.
In related news Coogar and Dayo are wanted by the police for gang raping a fellow NLander

chidexxy007:
are my eyes deceiving me? Rooney out?
this calls 4 celebration...coogar

are my eyes deceiving me? u said the same thing at least 3 times.

sinizia:
Any strong and pacy midfield like Coq and Santi will dismantle our DMs. Carrick and Teiger can't run for shít!!

Fletcher easily outpaced Schweini

I have said it before, if Mata can't play 10 for us he should be sold. He scores a few goals but as a RWF he is useless.
I can't count the number of times he has been isolated against a single marker and he has done nothing with the ball.

I hope he is pulled off at half time and Depay brought on so we can play Lingaard on the RW.

chidexxy007:
that exactly is my question... in wat way is young a defender.... no RB in the youth setup dat can deputize 4 d senior players when injured?

Paddy Mcnair who has played there on occasion is also injured.
We have about 5 to 6 players that can and have played RB

Smalling is at CB
Jones is still a bit short of fitness i think
Darmian is suspended
Valencia is injured
McNair injured
so it is Young's turn

Ibime:
I was listening to those clowns Lineker and Jenas looking for excuses for Rooney on MOTD.

They said it's not his fault . . . that he hasn't missed any chances . . . and blamed his teammates for not creating chances. I laugh say how come chances are automatically created when Martial is playing no9.

Reminds me of those who said Torres wasn't missing chances, rather his teammates were not creating for him.

People like Coogar lol.

Leyqute:
Don't you think Lampard, with his advanced position on the pitch should have more assists from open play than Scholes? (minus the freekickcks)

You're only buttressing coogar's point.

You totally misunderstood my point. I am not Nihilist, i was in support of Coogar in terms of Scholes vs Lampard. Where i have always disagreed with Coogar is using stats as the sole arbiter.....i prefer to use the simple eye test first, then use stats if things remain close.

raumdeuter:
I am not sure how this would work. And I wont interfere with that exercise

but Lampard played a different role from what Schole did. Lampard played further up the field than Scholes Did. Lampard in many seasons played as an AM. Lampard did little with play making in his hey days

Lampard played off the striker in a 4-3-3 and most knockdowns were to Lampard. he was almost around the opposition box. Similar to where Oscar plays nowadays

Scholes played as a midfielder in a 4-4-2 where he has little responsibility upfield and did more playmaking

Yeah that is what i was talking about in terms of style of play. Scholes was more of a deep lying conductor while Lampard played closer to the box

raumdeuter:
There are some things that need stats and some that do not. Its a simple trained eye test would know

There is something called experience in football based on watching for many years and having the eye for the game

E.g completed passes of Mikel and Cleverly that are done in safe areas of the field vs those for Iniesta and Fabregas done in risky areas of the field would be different and would have to be viewed in the context

A striker thats a poacher is different than one who is responsible for hold up play

Yes definitely. However Nihilist has cleared it up. He wants Coogar to prove WITH STATS that Scholes was better.

coogar:
that's actually the misconception.

in terms of how long it took each player to score open play goals & copping an assist, scholesy towered over lampard!

lampard

173 league assists
115 open play assists
58 set play assists.

scholes

138 league assists
120 open play assists
18 set play assists.


just look at the ratio of lampard's set play assists. 33% of his total assists are from set plays. whereas, scholesy's set play assists are ultra low compared to his overall assists.

even if you discount the number of minutes played by each midfielders, it's easy to see lampard relied much more on dead ball situations than scholes - and that makes him less creative than scholes. if the opponents aren't standing still, lampard is almost clueless.

I am actually not interested in stats in this case. My view about stats is that they become useful when dealing with an unclear question. It is clear that Scholes was better than Lampard so i won't delve too deep into stats.
Lampard scored more goals and had more assists than Zidane.....yet he himself knows that Zidane is his boss.

Paul Scholes was better than Frank Lampard. The stats are equivocal but the eye test makes the decision easy.

Even in La Liga Susaeta and Chori Castro have about same assist figure as Iniesta, does not make them his equal.

In Bundesliga you have people like Farfan and Gonzalo Castro competing with Robben in terms of assists.

Apart from goals scored for strikers which is fairly simple using just the stats for other positions is going to lead to inaccurate and skewed results.

The style of play of both players and of their teams means Lampard is likely to edge it in terms of goals and assists. Scholes was a better footballer.

raumdeuter:
Lol

This confirms it

Matic brought on in 46 min removed by 74th

Does not confirm anything. Actually the fact that keeping Ivanovic while benching almost every other person has not worked means the manager is making wrong decisions. Your point would have been valid if keeping Ivanovic and benching the others had led to better results

MrLouisVanGaal1:
I have noticed coogar doesn't really argue with elampiro when it comes to rooney like before. I think he has realised there is no need arguing with someone who has chopped love portion

If someone argues with you that Saheed Osupa not Obama was the U.S President would you argue with him?
One should argue only debatable points not when things are as obvious as Cossy Orjiakor's boobs.

Pataki:
Beat Wolfsburg tonight, then I can take your team serious. Remember Arsenal dealt with this same Wolfsburg some months ago in our pre-season.

Shoro niyen?

PietroRico:
you are right

Do you follow reserve players progress?
I've been hearing a thing or two about a certain callum gribbin and how he has rapidly risen through the ranks

I have not been following for awhile. The last set i watched was that of Perreira,Janko,Wilson. Dont know why they let Janko go so quickly

elampiro:
It appears you guys missed out on some many news items.

Gaal made it clear Wilson and Lingaard were not needed for the match, he also gave them time to rest after their mid week match.

Even from the wilderness I read some news.
.......

.... Wilson and Lingard, Van Gaal said: "Today they have had a recovery day and also tomorrow is more recovery but I don't need them so they can have a day off and then Thursday they will be fresh and can train."- Gaal

It is illustrative of my point that LVG used Wilson and Lingaard for the reserve match but used Perreira for the senior match.
Perreira has more skill and potential definitely but Lingaard is more mature and senior team ready.
The truth is that foreigners like Perreira,Adnan and Pogba have less loyalty to United and so have to be spoon-fed wella if not they will be stolen by Real, Barca, PSG e.t.c.
Wilson and Lingaard will do a Welbeck and wait for their time..........the foreigners won't.

PietroRico:
yea... I'm not even sure they made the bench
I didn't start the game and didn't know who and who were on the bench... When we went 2 nil up I was hoping to see at least one of them, only to see him bring on Depay and martial

Lingaard is suffering because of his lack of gloss and flair. He is a very stable and effective player who will give us decent crossing and finishing from the right hand side and possibly more balance than mata.
Perreira's skill and potential level like Adnan's is so high that we risk losing them Pogba style to foreign giants if we dont play them.
Wilson and Lingaard being British can be safely nurtured in a more patient manner