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CelebritiesRe: E-money Sprays N1million At Mike Ezuruonye's Sister's Wedding (Video) by agabaI23(m): 12:22pm On Apr 11, 2016
I hukwara ihe nwa nke a bu n'óbi leeee
grin grin grin grin
CelebritiesRe: KAI Officials Forced Lagosians To Use Pedestrian Bridge by agabaI23(m): 11:18am On Apr 11, 2016
olapluto:
We are so used to indiscipline that discipline looks absurd to us.
I can't agree more
PoliticsRe: The Murder Of The Fulani: #yugoslavia Unfolding. (by Ffk) by agabaI23(m):
Anybody who is not biased will stand with FFK.
I saw this on facebook and I knew FFK spoke my mind here.
I can't fault him...

Mynd44, thanks for closing the thread I opened. Didn't see this one
PoliticsThe Murder Of The Fulani: Yugoslavia Unfolding (buhari's Ethnic Agenda)-ffk by agabaI23(op): 6:25am On Apr 11, 2016
THE MURDER OF THE FULANI: YUGOSLAVIA UNFOLDING
The Department of State Security (DSS) have claimed that five Fulani herdsmen were abducted, killed and buried in a mass grave by members of IPOB in Abia state a few days ago. They have also claimed that there were up to fifty more bodies in that mass grave and that they are all Fulani.
The implications of this announcement is obvious. It will create more tension and fear in the land and it will lead to reprisal killings in the north. Violence is never the way out and I have always believed that it has no place in any civilized society. Yet what I find curious about this announcement is the fact that it is unique and historic.
I say this because thousands of Igbos, Yorubas, Niger-Deltans and Middle Belters have been killed by Fulani militants and herdsmen over the last ten months since President Buhari came to power yet the DSS has never announced it and told the country about the details and ethnic identities of the victims.
When one thousand Shiite Muslims were slaughtered in Zaria and buried in mass graves the DSS did not speak. When five hundred Idomas were massacred in Agatu by Fulani militants the DSS did not speak.
When hundreds of southern and Middle Belt farms were raided by AK-47-wielding Fulani herdsmen who murdered, raped, burnt down and took over the land of their victims the DSS never gave us details of the victims or made any announcements.
When our leaders in the south were kidnapped and when men witnessed their wives and children being raped and butchered by the Fulani militias before their very eyes the DSS made no announcements.
When the International Terror Index told the world that the Fulani militias in Nigeria are the "fourth most deadly terror organization in the world" the DSS said nothing and neither did they give us details about their activities or their victims.
Worse of all is the fact that our government and our President, who himself happens to be a Fulani, has never deemed it fit or necessary to condemn the activities of the Fulani herdsmen and militants and neither have they expressed any sympathy or displayed any empathy for their many victims.
Let me be clear: the murder of anyone, regardless of their ethnicity or faith, is unacceptable to me. I deplore murder and violence and in my view the killing of one innocent soul diminishes the humanity of every single one of us as a community and nation.
However it seems curious that the minute that Fulanis are killed in the east the DSS is quick to rise to the occasion and express concern about it whilst they do not express the same concern when Nigerians from other ethnic nationalities are killed by the Fulani in their own homes and land.
Therein lies the double standard and it is sad and unfortunate. Furthermore not only is it very dangerous but it also confirms the view that our government and security agencies are not only partial but that they are also attempting to implement an ethnic and religious agenda.
Three questions must be answered: firstly who is funding the Fulani herdsmen and where do they get their weapons from? Secondly why does our government not only turn a blind eye to the mass murder and genocide that they regularly indulge in but also go out of their way to protect them?
And thirdly why do the government and security agencies have so much hatred and contempt for those that the Fulani regularly target and their victims and why do they believe that those victims do not deserve to enjoy the full protection of the Nigerian Federal Government?
Could it be because they are regarded as slaves and second class citizens? Is Fulani blood and are Fulani lives more important than others? Indeed do non-Fulani lives matter in President Buhari's Nigeria?
Are we compelled to begin a ‘’non-Fulani lives matter’’ movement which is based and fashioned on the ‘’Black Lives Matter’’ movement in the United States of America before we can draw the attention of the world to what is going on in our country?
Is it not obvious and logical that when the security agencies refuse to protect the citizens from the murderous hordes and herdsmen from hell those citizens will eventually seek to protect themselves and go on the offensive? That is human nature and it is to be expected.
Is it not clear to those in power that when a people are convinced that their government is no longer impartial in any conflict and that the security agencies of that government have been directed to go out of their way to actively and openly support those that constantly and regularly slaughter their people it will eventually lead to open war?
Is it so difficult to accept the fact that no government and no force from hell or on earth can compel or intimidate a man into lying down passively and silently watch his family, loved ones and kinsmen being butchered and slaughtered morning, day and night without trying to protect them and without indulging in some form of retaliation?
With the sort of things that are going on in our country today it is time to tell ourselves some home-truths. No-one wishes to accept it let alone say it but sadly war will come to Nigeria again within the next few years. I do not want war and I consider it to be the ultimate evil but I am constrained to speak the truth and say things as I see them.
The fact that a war is coming is a testimony to the fact that we have all failed to manage the peace that God has given us since 1970 and the cessation of hostilities after our brutal civil war. We have failed so badly that the remote and immediate causes of that civil war are back with us today even though we hate to admit or acknowledge it.
Our country is like Yugoslavia unfolding before it exploded and violently broke into five separate countries. All the signs are there. Anyone that knows about the history of Yugoslavia or that is a student of world history will agree with me and appreciate what I am saying.
Consider the dangerous mix. A crumbling economy. An inept, weak, failing and paranoid government. A hungry, angry and increasingly desperate civilian population. An ignorant, obsessive, arrogant, insensitive, corrupt and self-absorbed political class who are out of touch with reality.
The ruthless implementation of an ethnic and religious agenda by a reckless and irresponsible government that refuses to consider the implications of taking such a course of action and that have an early-1960’s mind-set. The growing unrest, ethnic killings and sectarian murders.
An ethnic and religious division within the Armed Forces and security agencies. A relentless clamp-down on and persecution of the opposition and all dissenting voices by the government and the use of fear as a tool of governance and control.
The entering into a secret and covert treaty and military alliance with a group of Arab Sunni Muslim countries that seek to Islamise our country, that have, over the years, funded the most brutal and barbaric jihadist and radical Islamist terrorist organisations all over the world and that seek to impugn our national integrity and violate the secularity of our state.
The constant and open abuse of power. The impunity and insensitivity of the Buhari administration to the plight of the masses. The hunger, hardship, poverty and suffering in the land. The failure of the government to get rid of the fuel queues and supply electrical power.
The demonisation of peaceful and law-abiding self-determination groups and the unlawful incarceration of their leaders. The breach of the constitutional rights of the citizens and the ignoring of court orders and judicial processes by the government.
The attempt to intimidate and control the Judiciary and Legislature by the government and so much more. The list goes on and on and history proves that such a mixture of circumstances is dangerous and can only lead to open conflict if not halted.
The country is badly divided today and the people are suffering as never before. The division and hatred amongst some of our ethnic groups has reached pre-civil war levels.
We in the south must prepare for the worse and not be found wanting when the trouble starts. That is my greatest fear.
We must not end up like the Bosnians of Bosnia-Herzogovina did during the Yugoslavian civil war in the European Balkans in the late 1980's right up until 1992.
They were the only ethnic group in Yugoslavia that was not prepared for it when the war started. They had no arms, no plan, no allies and no fall back position.
When the fighting started they were caught unawares and for two years they suffered immeasurably for their stupidity and naivety whilst their people were killed like flies and their women and children were raped and enslaved. God forbid this should happen to our people.
The reason that they suffered for two years was because there was an international arms embargo placed on all the ethnic groups and warring militias and armies in Yugoslavia when the war started.
And sadly the Bosnians were the only ones that did not buy and stockpile arms in preparation for war months and years before it actually broke out.
Plagued by a cowardly and weak-minded ruling elite and a naive, self-serving, servile, ignorant and intellectually-challenged middle class the Bosnians just kept talking, writing newspaper articles, appeasing the aggressors and their tormentors, praying and hoping for peace whilst all the other ethnic and religious groups and warring parties were quietly preparing for war. Sounds familiar?
They suffered immensely for their lack of understanding, insight and foresight and their civilian population paid a heavy price. For two years after the civil war started the Bosnians could not even buy a gun or bullet to defend themselves. Their towns were besieged and blown up whilst their women and children were raped, enslaved and butchered.
Their men were rounded up into Second World War-like Nazi concentration camps and starved and tortured to death and their dignity and self-respect was taken from them. They were turned into an internally-displaced people and their land was transformed into a sea of desperate and suffering refugees.
It was a nightmare from hell and suffering on this scale had not been seen on European soil since the First and Second World Wars.
It was after the international community silently watched them being slaughtered by their Serbian and Croatian compatriots for two long years that they were compelled, as a consequence of pressure from the people of the world and on moral and humanitarian grounds, to lift the arms embargo on them so that they could buy arms to defend themselves.
The war dragged on for more years after that but at least the Bosnians, though two years late, were now able to fight back and defend themselves.
It took the intervention of NATO, the bombing of Belgrade by the international community led by the Americans and the eventual break-up of the entire country into five pieces to stop the carnage and barbarity of the Serbs and eventually bring the civil war to an end.
It was during that war that the term "ethnic cleansing" was first used by CNN to describe what was being done by the Serbs to the Bosnians, the Croats, the Slovenians, the Kosovars, the Macedonians and the Monte Negrans, all of whom represented the other ethnic groups that made up the old Yugoslavia.
Eventually the country broke up and each of them got their independence from the dominant Serbs and from one another.
If such a thing could have happened in the heart of Europe in the early 1990's why on earth would any reasonably intelligent person dismiss the notion that it can happen here?
The only difference would be that if such a thing were to ever unfold in our country it would be far worse than what happened in Yugoslavia due to the sheer size of our population.
The signs are already there and it is left for us to recognize them and prepare ourselves for the worse or to ignore them and, like the Bosnians, eventually pay a very heavy price. I pray that I am wrong but as far as I am concerned, for Nigeria, the bell is tolling. May the Lord deliver us.


Modath, theVoice, Omenka

I want your sincere opinion on the content of this essay. I am actually worried about the turn of things. This is nothing to do with APC or PDP...
PoliticsRe: People Working For Buhari Are Lying About 2016 Budget — NASS by agabaI23(m): 11:32pm On Apr 10, 2016
modath:
Dem still be Nigerians!!!! Togo Yoruba na option too. grin ... How ya doin?
ai ai faii...Take it easy babe. These guys are not worth the stress trust me..
















They know the game they are playing especially as they know that Buhari has some challenges wink
PoliticsRe: People Working For Buhari Are Lying About 2016 Budget — NASS by agabaI23(m): 11:17pm On Apr 10, 2016
modath:
I can't ever regret being Yoruba but i almost regret being a southern Nigerian, Anago (Beninoise variation of Yoruba) would have been just fine...

Can't imagine being with people who would hate a government so much & would cosign being deprived of basics as long as it can show that government in bad light...

Even if you hate a government, chill, gather what you can, allow development & do your thing when time comes!!!

Vanguard broke the news & we all know where they stand, all NASS is doing now is to do a PR/Clean Job, they didn't know Buhari would request for details before signing.. cool

Just let we the people have transcripts , we can make our own deductions.
How about Kogi Yoruba? wink
PoliticsOnovo At It Again With Channels And It Is Okimbaloye This Time by agabaI23(op): 8:19pm On Apr 10, 2016
This guy is dealing with Seun Okimbaloye like he dealt with the sunrise crew
This Onovo holds no prisoner...
PoliticsRe: Abia Civil Servant Born In 1961 (Photos) by agabaI23(m): 1:44pm On Apr 10, 2016
omenka:
Eyaa. Sometimes I don't really blame these guys.

Retirement in the Nigerian system is something every civil servant, especially the low ranking ones, dread. Whereas, in civilised societies, they anxiously look forward to it.

Make dem free the Paapa jor. If he says he's 55, so be it, abi na una born am?? grin
Na so APC dey do?
PoliticsRe: Repentant Buhari Fan Apologizes To Deziani Alison-Madueke by agabaI23(m): 9:56pm On Apr 09, 2016
Quakertellicus1:
You know something....why apologize to a woman who did nothing about the mess in NNPC....especially the fact that because we did not properly fix the refineries and add new ones under her rule.....we are in this mess.

1.You are paying N180 for fuel(it is still N86.50 in major marketers and NNPC fuel stations....higher in some independent marketers)....because the fuel subsidy.....WHICH YOU DO NOT WANT REMOVED....and which your new hero supported its removal....is preventing marketers from making profits....so as a result....they have to sell much higher than official price....or else they won't have the dollars needed to import.

2.Have you ever thought why we do not have the dollars for imports? It is because oil prices have fallen....so we can no longer waste dollars on everything.....we need it to keep up the naira....so that you sports fans wont be paying N100000 for a loaf of bread.

And if the subsidy goes.....you would be paying far higher for fuel. So...why are you complaining. Do you expect APC to diversify the economy in 10 months....when PDP and your new heroes did not do it in 16 years?

3.Ask your new hero why no new refineries were built? Even if the ones we have are working at full capacity....we would still need to import 23 million liters of fuel every day. And the reason prices stayed at N97-N87 per liter during her time was because...we had the dolalrs to import and subsidze the fuel at the same time. Now we do not...and now the decisions we made not to build new refineries has come back to haunt us.

4.Ask your heroes why at the end of their rule...they were still owing money to the marketers? That is why they refused to import...they were owing so much that they were in debt...and they still owe. Because....we no longer have the dollars to import since oil prices fell.

5.And is it now you are noticing we bought fuel at higher prices. I bought fuel at N102-110 during GEJ's time. I even know of people who bought fuel at N170 in Minna during GEJ time. And fuel in SE and SS was above N150 during GEJ's time. Indeed...it was only Lagos and Abuja that sold fuel at N97 during GEJ's time....in the very outskirts of ABuja.....fuel was sold as high as N140. during gej'S TIME.

6.What would solve this problem is ......removal of subsidy. But that would put prices of fuel above N150....the same price you are complaining about....but fuel would flow. You are complaining about high prices....and yet...you paradoxically do not want the actual solution to your problem....apart from five new refineries?

Nigeria needs at least 23 million extra liters per day...in addition to the new 17 million liters of fuel per day.Some even put it at 53 million extra liters per day!

Abeg...why apologize to someone who spent all the time in office doing nothing to solve the problem....and hiding the problem via massive dollar influx to import fuel to paper the cracks. Nigeria needs new refineries and removal of subsidy. Things that your new heroine did not do ...and before anyone calls me zombie....things that the new APC govt must do if they want to sort this issue out once and for all.

Nigerians....
Let me respond to your first highlight about fixing the refineries.

I don't know if you have heard story about turn around maintenance.

Let me start from 2012. I have argued this with Jaybee3 before
This woman and GEJ wanted the subsidy to go because there was no need for it. NOI saw through the fraud but APC latched on it and you occupied Lagos until it was reversed. You requested for new refineries and fixing of old ones. Rightly she told you that government had no business in refining that if subsidy was removed, businessmen would ordinarily build refineries.

About fixing the the existing refineries, they contacted the original company that built them. They declined but referred them to another company. The second company accepted to do the work and charged $800 million. When asked to guarrantee that the refineries would work to 100% capacity and for a given number of years, they refused. Then this woman decided to build local capacity and had been doing.

She assembled local Engineers, contracted a local firm that was paid "only" $10 million. They understudied the refineries and started TAM in October 2014. The result was what you witnessed around June-July with the coming to stream of most of the refineries.

I am sure Johnnie Walker would have disbanded that team as he is known to do and we are where we are today.. Ask before you cast stones. You were owned by APC..You were misinformed.. Enjoy

Stop giving excuses sir...
PoliticsRe: List Of Ministers Going To China With Buhari by agabaI23(m): 6:55pm On Apr 09, 2016
yarimo:
So that is y buhari did not attend FEC emergency meeting? busy putting his luggage together to fly out again

RomanceRe: Big Breasted Woman Followed Around By Men At Computer Village, Ikeja (photos) by agabaI23(m): 5:26pm On Apr 09, 2016
donogaga:
But she was smiling. I think she was embarrassed bro..
That smile is just a cover up. All these people following her because of her breast? You may have been used to it but .....
RomanceRe: Big Breasted Woman Followed Around By Men At Computer Village, Ikeja (photos) by agabaI23(m): 5:15pm On Apr 09, 2016
Tell you what?
She was embarrassed!
Poor woman
PoliticsRe: Court Fines EFCC For Detaining Secondus by agabaI23(m): 9:28am On Apr 09, 2016
freeze001:
Good! Sick people that appoint themselves both judge n jury. What nonsense! They accuse, declare guilt over the pages of d papers then detain arbitrarily having prescribed their own punishment. Very irresponsible organisation this EFCC!

Rather than follow the procedures of lawfully investigating, arresting and prosecuting a person, they flout the laws and detain endlessly. The 10m is small sef.
Your English construction and reasoning just turned me on....
TravelRe: Any Nairalander In Düsseldorf? by agabaI23(op): 8:36pm On Apr 08, 2016
APFM:
In dusseldorf ,reklinheusing precisely
That's cool. HBf? I just came in for a short time. In Wupertal...Was thinking there could be some Nlanders around Uni-Klinik area
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 12:19pm On Apr 08, 2016
precious1967:
who and who refused? GEJ has no any genuine reason at dt time dt was y he failed to remove d fuel subsidy.
lol, please yourself sir
HealthRe: Daily Exercise And Food Routine For Those Who Want To Lose Weight by agabaI23(m): 9:12am On Apr 08, 2016
modath:
Hourglass3 ,

Didn't know you've jumped the broom, congrats. smiley


Agabai23,

So you get link to something & not sharing with moi? Issokay ooo .... angry


Mgeey,

Jillian's shred is great, BFBM is fantastic as well, the two will take one very very far!!


Agabs, I'm gonna scale down on the heavy free weights & concentrate more on MIIT (what worked super in the past) for the next 6 weeks then reevaluate later, concentrating on doing that 5 by 5 strong lift thing isn't helping me... stagnated on the scale & bicep is "growing".... horrror!! cry

Shred with my 4kg DBs + planks will have to serve for now!! Don't want "pregnant snake" biceps. tongue cheesy
That's great. You just have to balance things to avoid looking like ............................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz grin
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 8:39am On Apr 08, 2016
modath:
Make I shine teeth,make a for no cry! smiley

E nor easy!! undecided undecided
Abeg shine teeth jare, close up may can fire their model grin
PoliticsRe: PHOTOS: Herd Of Cows Seen On Abuja Major Road by agabaI23(m): 8:34am On Apr 08, 2016
chimkaire:
Geeeeeeez cheesy
Wetin now?
No be true talk? wink grin
PoliticsRe: PHOTOS: Herd Of Cows Seen On Abuja Major Road by agabaI23(m): 6:43am On Apr 08, 2016
xreal:
Only in Nigeria, maybe they are heading for Airport.
The president is travelling. His advance team..
HealthRe: Daily Exercise And Food Routine For Those Who Want To Lose Weight by agabaI23(m):
OK
First half
200 bike crunches
40 press ups
12 jump-press up routine
Plank loading

Second half
4 minutes plank (2 minutes x2
200 bike crunches
12 jump-press up routine
40 press ups
slow seated oblique twist( no medicine ball) 40
Expected 15-18 minutes brisk walk to work grin

Have a nice day y'all tongue
HealthRe: Daily Exercise And Food Routine For Those Who Want To Lose Weight by agabaI23(m): 5:47am On Apr 08, 2016
HourGlass3:
I had been in a walk/jog challenge and because I have some obstacles like no time to get to the gym and DH will not allow outdoors. I jog on the spot (after lots of research) and trust me it works considering my HRM and what my steps tracker tells me too. It shouldn't be far better if I was actually moving. I am on day 8 of my challenge.

I had a yeye fever like 2 days now, I don't know whether am missing agaba ni kiss abi na DOMS. I am feeling better today sha with a bland tongue. I will be getting my on-the-spot walk/jog in tonight, wish me luck.
Yeaaaaa, I said it wink
Good jaab(job), anything as long as you re active hun
Who is DH?
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 5:44am On Apr 08, 2016
modath:
Why do we need to understand ourselves? We be exam? tongue ...

Spoke up against? Which meaningless opinion?

You no go carry iron? Oya go joor! I dey read news before time reach to enter main road.. grin
grin grin
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 5:22am On Apr 08, 2016
modath:
Understand? A no get you?

& Agabs my guy, don't even wish to understand the female folks, the day you truly understand a woman is the end of life. cheesy
Yea, how can I understand a group of people who do not understand themselves? grin

Anyway sha, for a second time, you spoke up against meaningless opinions...Fresh air
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 3:05am On Apr 08, 2016
modath:
We are forgetful people which is both a blessing & a curse but I can't in good conscience get behind this!!

Both situations are aberrations!!
Wow! I hope I understood you grin
EducationRe: The Epic Expo "Bomb" Style Of My School by agabaI23(m): 2:57am On Apr 08, 2016
Who goes into the hall with a phone?
It is easy to catch that guy
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 9:37pm On Apr 07, 2016
omenka:
Whatever the complement is, I wish and say same to your father bro. smiley

Goodnyt.
Echekwa m ma ibu onye Igbo lol

grin
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 9:23pm On Apr 07, 2016
omenka:
Nah. I know it's a complement, that is why I returned same to your father(s). smiley
lol
Echekwara m ma I gara eji asusu odi n'ala zaa m?
Gboo Omenka?

Onye aturu ilu wee kowara ya, ya mata na ego eji luo nne ya lara n'iyi

I don't curse so if anyone interpretes it for you as a curse....well
FashionRe: Lilian Esoro Looks Impeccable As She Glows Beautifully by agabaI23(m): 9:19pm On Apr 07, 2016
midehi2:
cheesy
I dey laugh too smiley
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 9:16pm On Apr 07, 2016
omenka:
Same to your father(s). smiley
You think I cursed you?
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 8:52pm On Apr 07, 2016
precious1967:
people ve 4gotten dt protesters were killed during d fuel increase crisis in d last admin. na wa o.
No, the last administration wanted to take care of fuel scarcity forever and you refused. It was subsidy removal protest. Now your messiah socialist government wants to let it go too.
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 8:49pm On Apr 07, 2016
omenka:
Brother, my faith in him remains as firmly rooted as a baobab tree!

One man once snapped at Nigerians when they complained about the rot in his government and his reluctance to declare his assets, and I quote: I DON'T GIVE A DAMN!

Na their "hero" be that.

Funny yoots.
Onwu ga-egbu nwankita anaghi ekwe ya nu isi nsi
PoliticsRe: Before You Condemn PMB And Praise GEJ Concerning Fuel Scarcity, Note This by agabaI23(m): 8:40pm On Apr 07, 2016
tomakint:
@ op, be sincere it was not this bad under Jonathan, mind you the shortage of fuel towards the end of Jonathan's tenure was a grand manipulations from the detractors of his government just to whip up sentiments from the already angry electorates who are hell bent to get him out. Jonathan's government had the singular honour of stopping our seasonal December 24th-28th shortage of fuel we witnessed for 6 years under Obj's eight years.... This is the noble truth.
I don't even understand how some people reason...

I am so surprised that this was elevated to front page. When I saw the topic, I wanted to see reasons...
Well whatever gives them relief is good for front page..


Should we be comparing or dealing with the situation? A lazy guy who always looks for someone to blame for his failure will never progress. Own up to your incomptence guys.

Deziani can actually tell you.. a thing or two grin grin

The fact that they trying to compare with past admin is inadvertently admitting they have failed....

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