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jln115:
Maby you should do the same with your F-7s......OOHH wait! nobody wants those ww2 pieces of sh;t.

NAF F-7 has equal missile capability with SAAF Gripens.

Then Nigeria is replacing F-7 with JF-17 Thunder this very year 2015 !

Go d.ie of envy
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jln115:
OK South African army is 250 years old then!

Bwahahah, Liar

South African army is only 104 years old.

"The South African Army is the army of South Africa, first formed after the Union of South Africa was created in 1910."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Army

Nigerian army is 150 years old !

"The Nigerian Army yesterday commenced celebrations to marks its 150 years in existence. The Chief of Civil Military Affairs, Major- General Bola Koleoso, said at a media briefing in Abuja that the 2013 Nigerian Army Day Celebrations (NADCEL) will hold between June 28 and July 6."

http://allafrica.com/stories/201307010736.html

No wonder we have been made your boss every time by international organizations
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jln115:
Work begins on South Africa's R84bn smart city

www.southafrica.info/business/investing/shanghai-zendai-modderfontein-smart-city-120115.htm#.VLUWudKUclA

Nigeria is building Centenary City, a much better project

http://www.abuja-ng.com/centenary-city-abuja.html

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=centenary%20city%20abuja


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j71VGPB1MN0

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MikeCZAR:
A. 4 Frigates.

1. Operational standby:

Last year SAS Isandlwana was on standby when her crew were called to rescue yachets from the Cape to Rio race experiencing difficulties.

This ship is also used in exercises.

2. Operational:

One frigate is on normal patrol at sea.

This one again is also used in exercises.

3. Refit:

One is refitted with new various systems excluding weapons.

4. Training:

To test and qualifying new frigate crews whom just finished training on simulators and passed their tests one frigate is used to train and qualify crews. Officers are tested on this platform.

With this cycle the navy won't experience having all 4 frigates in dry dock undergoing refit or maintenance after operations.

Again lessons are learned from each frigate like what difficulties are the vessels experiencing at sea.

South African navy is dead !

Only 1 frigate....and no diesel !


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DieVluit:
How do you know it was FRAUDULENT if you have no proof that it was ONLY the soldiers that were doing the counting?

You don't know who was counting and who was not, do you Auguby? Do you?

Repondez, SVP.

Nigerian defence HQ published its figures because it was inside the war zone, and is a recognised insitution. Any other recognised institution that is based inside the war zone can come forward with it's own count....let us see it...name that institution
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jln115:
OK South African army is 250 years old then!

What does your army oficially say at its last anniversary celebration?

DieVluit:
I don't need to. I wanna know from you whether it was only soldiers that were doing the counting?

1. How do you know?

2. Where does it say that?

A1. You don't know

A2. It doesn't say so anywhere.

So, thanks we will go with the 2000 dead number.

You are free to go with an anonymous, unrecognised and fraudulent source. Life gives you freedom to choose and I don't care what choices you make, it's none of my business.

jln115:
How can the Nigerian Army be 150 years old but nigeria is only 55 years old?
And NO! Nigeria never defeated Germany or Japan in either of the 2 world wars, Nigeria as we know it didnt even exist until 1960

Last Nigerian army day celebration was it's 150th anniversary and that is official and globally recognised. Your opinion does not matter, sorry.

DieVluit:
Yes, "official". What does official mean again here?

Who cares? We go with witnesses.

Name your eyewitnesses and prove their credibility/reliability as war zone reporters
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DieVluit:
Like you soldiers who run from battle?

OK.

So the escapees never came back? Only the soldiers did the counting? How do you know? Where does it say that?

NOWHERE!

Show us proof of when and how the escapee became returnee
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jln115:
Dont worry Nigeria, South Africa is here to help!!
SA GOVT 'READY' TO HELP COMBAT BOKO HARAM SIEGE

http://ewn.co.za/2015/01/12/Dirco-Boko-Harams-terrorism-must-come-to-an-end

South Africa could not help the dying civilians in CAR to survive the terror of Seleka rebels, instead of fighting and deploying for troops, SANDF says the destruction on innocent lives in CAR is not their business.

Same South Africa that failed to defeat about 200 Rhino poachers invading Mandelas home soil, and went crawling on its knees to Botswana for help in shipping Rhinos out of SA into safety in a weaker country.

Physician, heal thyself first naa !
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mzilakazi:
Number estimated by escapees.

The BBC does not trust your claim together with the world at large. You can downplay number of casualties in Nigeria but you can never solve the problem. BH will come and kill 100 and you will come out and claim it was only 10 and in the mean time is not solving anything. It will only send message to the world that BH is not just bad as we thought and that Nigeria is not needing any international help.



http://m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30794829

Numbers given by escapees, do you know who an escapee is? Someone who was too afraid to wait and verify anything so he runs away from danger.

Your escapee reporter did not wait behind to count a whole 2,000 dead bodies, he has already escaped from the town before battle ended, he has no figures that he personally counted.

You killed your own argument. Telling lies has a way of backfiring on the liar
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mzilakazi:
That is a lie!! the stats have been downplayed so as to put away the blames from military. Many people have drown in the lake. 150 is just a number that is perfect for guess work.


http://m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30794829


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/13/nigeria-is-letting-boko-haram-get-away-with-murder.html

Was BBC reporting crew based inside Baga war zone? The people that fought in Baga have published reports, and we see no photo of 2,000 dead people from BBC.

http://www.punchng.com/news/150-not-2000-died-in-baga-attacks-military/

jln115:
Who killed 2000 people in Baga?

Nobody.

Official death toll is only 150 including dead Boko fighters
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jln115:
"South Africa occupied the colony in 1915 after defeating the German force during World War I"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namibia

Nigerian army is OFFICIALLY 150 years old, we defeated Germany in World War I and Japan in World War II
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DieVluit:
Whose logical reasoning? Yours? Lol.

The same logical reasoning that makes you think that this thread is an international research site? So typically nigerian.

A military researcher will use a peer reviewed source. Information that does not need to be taken with a pinch of salt. Not some website in die plattelande van wus Afrika.

Sorry bra, nairaland Is useless for research. Even Wikipedia is better. Nairaland is no more than an entertainment value site that no one should take seriously beyond that.


Bwahah posters are researchers like beegeagle is a researcher? A rumour monger that occupies the gap left by Nigeria's weak military publishing industry? Sure man. A site that is 80% SA and Nigerian offers insights on who has the best military in africa.

SHOW ME ONE PAPER THAT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED WITH THIS FORUM AS THE SOURCE RELIED ON.

Just. One.

It won't happen.

I don't want your logic man. It's kak logic

Last year, an American academic researcher came on this same nairaland forum to ask us for information on military medical corps for African militaries.

Henry, Patches, Andrewza, Mike and others posted information and photos as well as web links for the researcher.

People use the web link we sources copied from nairaland without telling anybody.

There is NOTHING like nairaland forums in South Africa becasue your inferior brains cannot invent or create one, so you Soithies all flock here like ants rushing to sugar !
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DieVluit:
Yes bra. Buying ships is not for a poor country like Nigeria.

Olodo, in the last 7 years Nigeria has bought brand new stealth warships and war boats worth over $1 billion
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DieVluit:
Bwahahaha Arandu the Lazarus of ships.

Nigerian navy is known to ressurect any warship when we want to do it.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200409230046.html
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mzilakazi:
It seems as if you don't know what do you want. You told us you can sail the whole world, I gave you the source to prove to you that we have been sailing and still we have the capacity to sail the whole world. So now you bring in a new boring argument. You are a lost ship.

You are blue water incapable, you can only sail through it yet you will never battle on the blur water arena.

There is currently no naval war in anywhere in the whole world . All the world fights against today is piracy, and Nigeria leads Africa in that area. NNS Thunder can sink 31 of the 36 naval forces in Africa, they won't even know when the Thunders 76mm main gun hi..ts some of them 10km away
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patches689:
All that range... and no ability to wage war when it reaches its destination

Wow, totally relevant

It has a 76mm main gun and will easily sink all the warships of 31 out of the 36 navies in Africa. Only 5 countries among the 53 nations in Africa can challenge NNS Thunder at sea. Fact !
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mzilakazi:
Even a balloon can sail all over the world.

Our ships traveled the world but we don't make noise about it.

http://www.navy.mil.za/aboutus/history/ambassadors.htm

Show me a South African navy ship that can sail blue waters 26,000 km non-stop without refuelling....Nigerian navy has two such ships for blue water operation....show us your Southie navy ship that can match ours in blue water range...
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mzilakazi:
Even a balloon can sail all over the world.

No ballon can sail around the world non-stop, it's gas supply will run out and it drops dead to the ground.

When we say Nigerians are more intelligent than South Africans, you people always prove us correct. Thanks bro

DieVluit:
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Oh look! Pictures of seamen! Gosh, so that should prove that nigeria isn't a brown water navy?

Er.....N to the Ow!


Embrace it bra. Brown water is what you are.

Nigerian Navy is the ONLY force in Africa that has ships that can sail around the whole continent of Africa without stopping to refuel anywhere. To you, circumnavigating a whole continent from Lagos to Cape town to Cairo and back to Lagos non-stop is a brown water voyage, show me a South African warship that can do that.

People say you are low in your thinking faculty, yet you keep proving them right
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DieVluit:
Why don't you admit that Nairaland is obsessed with south africa? Why don't you
Admit that?

Nope, it's the other way round.

Every other African is obsessed with Nigeria.

See now, all Kenyans, Ghanaians, Cameroonians, South Africans on nairaland have teamed up together to a.tt.ack Nigeria's image !

Southies are posting photos of Cameroon and defending Kenya's poor handling of El-Shabbab terrorism, Ghana's Kwame and Awodwa spend their whole life throwing stones at Nigeria as a full time job.

Nigeria is the centre of attraction in Africa, Nigeria is the target, Nigeria is the one everybody envies, Nigeria is the biggest and the best black brains in the world, Nigeria is the one that is bold enough to challenge the white super powers at United Nations meetings, Nigeria is the one African Union always calls to lead Africa into war zones and save war-torn black nations.

The whole of Africa is obsessed with Nigeria ! Up Naija....we rock, we rule, we reign !
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patches689:
Thats not what I said

Nope, you said it ....

Patchesagain:
What are you talking about?

Show me why we would have to beg for deisel.

We can sail to lagos

and then patrol a distance that is just short of the length of the entire south african coast

and then sail back to cape town

without re-fueling

And we have the ability to re-fuel and re-supply while on station.

We actually have force projection, you have none.

You were boasting about dead SAN warships
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Nayah:
I will always talk when it comes to my country get yourself clear. GDP is helping you to avoid bomb attacks? Or desertion from your army? Let me tell you something ... Africans are still behind because they are still praising westerners report and all that but a real powerful country is measured when it comes to situation like those of neighbouring Nigeria! A powerful country is able to protect his people a powerful country does not have electricity cut like you have , a powerful country is able to federate and NOT divide a powerful country acts, a powerful country knows what united means face to terrorism Are you a powerful country? I doubt I mean the World doubts

As an "ordinary" country I know my position and don't dream of some compliments and then being humiliated everyday worldwide. As an ordinary country I'm VERY proud to see how is teaching you what is a real NATION.

That's why I'm talking dude

Boko Haram lives inside Cameroon and your 'stable peaceful' ordinary country CANNOT summon courage to flush them out.

When you see one suicide bomber in Douala city, you will run forgetting to wear your bra, while your booobies go loose, one tittiee will be swing west, the other tittiee will be swinging east while you run like the cowards you naturally are

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patches689:
lol

Fact is, Nigeria has ZERO operational missile armed warships

We have them, don't need them. Piracy does not require missile attacks. We have what we need. You boast of what you really don't have, you are the ones listing 10 frigates here last November, claiming SAN will sail to Nigeria and patrol the whole Gulf Of Guinea with 10 frigates which you do NOT have, the only 4 frigates you have are down to only 1 ship, the rest have knocked engines and abandoned in a mechanics workshop shipyard, no money to repair them, no manpower to sail them, and 2 of your 3 submarines are broken down abandoned like a mother less child that needs to go to SOS Children village

South African navy is DEAD !
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Patchesagain:
OMG you are illiterate!!

Your one and only lone ranger frigate will abandon 3,200 km massive coastline of South Africa and patrol Mozambique channel plus Nigeria's Gulf Of Guinea at the same time, your lone ranger frigate will be flying like jet fighter from coast to coast all over Africa
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Patchesagain:
So this is what a childs mind looks like

SAN is a dead navy....ONLY ONE FRIGATE....to patrol the whole Gulf Of guinea
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Nigerian Army stands firm in Baga !

UPDATES ON BAGA BY GEN. CHRIS OLUKOLADE (Defence Spokesperson)

@GENOlukolade: My attention has been drawn to a sponsored opinion in a Chadian Newspaper, The Government of Chad does not share this sentiment.

The Sponsored piece on Chadian Paper Al-Widha claims Chad Govt refused to cooperate with our Military because we are allegedly corrupt.

It is merely another remark to trumpet the campaign of local and foreign sympathizers or collaborators of terrorists operating in Nigeria. None of those meaningless allegations of corruption has ever been proved. They are just diversionary and a tool for detractors.

Al-Widha Report: Another irresponsible alibi coming from the foreign and local pro-terrorist party. It means NOTHING to us here.
We are Fighting in Baga. We are taking Terrorists down, We are losing our Soldiers too. STOP the Noise, Let’s Fight.
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No portion of Nigeria’s territory has been or will be conceded to terrorists. Not Baga. Boots on Ground, Raids from the Skies.[/size]


We are MOBILIZING and REGROUPING to Save Baga. We are fighting Everywhere. We held Damaturu Down. Boko Haram is Evil. We are ‪#‎BagaTogether‬

Our OPs consider first protection of Civilians, the Innocents who are being assailed for refusing an Islamist Militant State.

Since Jan 3, 2015 We’ve been at War in Baga . The attack by blood hounds on the innocent is EVIL and not those fighting them #BagaTogether

What does it take to Shell or Reduce Baga to Debris. Should the Larger Population of the Good Pay the Price for the Wicked?

Baga: Soldiers M.I.A rejoined their units, More Resources Deployed.

There is more to Fight & Die for. For 1 Soul, For Pride.

2013; Amnesty accused us of Massacre in Baga even when evidence points to the fact that it is Terrorist Propaganda. Whatever, #BagaTogether
We in the Military swore an Oath to the Code, of Allegiance to Country. Rise above Political Propaganda. Evil is Evil #BagaTogether
For Reasons known to them Niger, Chad withdrew their Troops from the MJTF HQ’d in Baga. We own this fight. Stop the division #BagaTogether

Lets spread the word #Support our heroes#

[size=16pt]Nigerian army still Africa's best in combat....South Africa tops Hollywood Photomania rankings LOL...LOLZ...LOLLY LOL
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South Africans' false information busted !

Only 150 people including Bokos died in Baga

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The Defence authorities have faulted the claim that over 2,000 people were killed in the Boko Haram attack on Baga, the headquarters of the Multi-National Joint Task Force on January 3.

The Director of Defence Information, Maj. Gen. Chris Olukolade, said this during a press briefing in Abuja on Monday. He said that 150 people including a large number of members of the Boko Haram sect were killed in the confrontation.

Olukolade explained that many of the residents of Baga and the nearby communities had fled the area because of incessant attacks on their towns by the Boko Haram sect.

He added that many of the residents of the community were able to flee the area while the battle between the soldiers and the insurgents lasted.

Olukolade said that the figures being reported and attributed to eyewitnesses were exaggerated.

“…It is however necessary to inform Nigerians in the interim that the exercise so far has not corroborated the report on the casualty rate which was put at 2,000.

“From all available evidences, the number of people who lost their lives during that attack has so far not exceeded about 150 in the interim. This figure includes many of the terrorists who were bearing arms and got killed in the course of their attack and battle with troops.
http://www.punchng.com/news/150-not-2000-died-in-baga-attacks-military-2/

#Now Show Us What SANDF Has Achieved In Battle For The Past 20 years Apart From Photography

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Patchesagain:
This is standard for any navy in the world

The so called 1/3 rule

We just finished major naval exercises, repars and maintenance must be done. Vessels suffering damage during a year of high tempo operations is not unheard of and is to be expected.

Further, that Valour Class that has been under maintence for a year is about to become operational again - and the Amatola will take its spot and begin refit

Also, a damaged engine does not prevent a Valour Class frigate to perform training operations in false bay (Spionkop had an engine removed when it was slated for refit in 2009 and performed training ops in the bay for a whole year while waiting its chance jn dry dock)

This is how professional navies run - maintenance, maintenance, maintenance

Maybe if you followed our lead the Aradu would put to sea once every 5 years


And as a final point, the fact that the Warrior Class OPV's have come on line and the naval base in durban is nearing the end of refurbishment means that soon the valour class will not be not be needed for 24/7 patrol of the Mozambique channel - meaning the maintenance backlog can be adressed and that wear and tare on the vessels will be more than halved

And let me remind you - 1 combat ready frigate and 1 combat ready sub is one of each more than you [will ever] have
is enough to defend against any nation in sub saharan aftica

You boasted for 3 days on this forum in November that this 2015 your 4 frigates and 3 submarines will be doing force projection inside Nigerian oceans in the gulf of guinea, now mechanics report say 80% of Mandela's navy have engines knocked out of service, your ships and submaries are being infested by cockroaches in your naval base, yet you were deceiving us that your navy rules Africa !
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