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MikeCZAR:
A. Frigates(Valour class)

1. One frigate undergoing maintenance.
2. One frigate used for training and qualifying crews.

3. One frigate at sea.
4. One frigate held at reserve.

B. Submarines.(Heroine class)

1. One submarine undergoes maintenance.
2. One submarine at sea.
3. One submarine used for training and qualifying crews.

If an emergency arises the CSANDF will always at any given have a frigate and submarine capability.

Nigeria's "coast guard" can't even defend its self against 1 warrior class OPV, 1 frigate and a submarine.

Henry's new source defence report proves South African navy is dead

No need for argument, you have only one stealth vessel at sea, we have one stealth OPV, two stealth MPVs, sixty stealth IPVs.

NNS Thunder alone will sink Warrior OPV.

F-7 jet will sink your lonely Valour frigate
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Nayah:
Misinformed while my young brother is fighting in our army? Hahaha please read an take notes instead of dreaming Cameroon is fighting for their peace and cohesion we stand UNITED thing that your people should learn from an "ordinary" country

Peace

I met Cameroonian government ministers at a meeting last year. English speaking South-West Cameoon is NOT united with the bigger French Cameroon, they want to break up.

Nayah:
Which Cameroon? Here is their bodies just found after Kolofata attack 300 killed Cameroon is NOT Nigeria sorry real talk

Yes Cameroon is not Nigeria, Abuja can swallow up Younde and Paul Biya will be begging your white master France to save him.

Cameroon has no tanks, no interceptor jets, no frigate ships, no stealth ships, we will be inside your country before you know we left Lagos.

The number of Boko Haram fighters is even more than your whole army and your gendarmes are like glorified boy scouts.

One suicide bomber from Boko Haram will make every Cameroonian flee Younde without remembering to carry their matress or pillow. Some of your women will forget to wear p.ant !
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Nayah:
Truth is bitter I m not talking like you as you are in a bar on something I have brothers out there and fight for our Cameroon so please get yourself informed and let your brain works! Boko Haram is coming from where? Who is more efficient and determined in this struggle? Please read and leave people inform themselves instead of having some useless fake patriotic arguments . The fact is Nigeria has failed and continue to fail everybody is watching and your arrogance is just very funny since the World see how the So call Giant of Africa is so weak who is pumping himself Hun?

Hey Cemeroonian goat head, your country paid half a million dollars ransom to Boko Haram to free your government ministers wife that was kidnapped.

How much will you pay when Biya's daughter is kidnapped by Bokos? We see you like to pay bribe than to fight....cowards
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Kafrican:
we don't live in fear here. I live on the coast of Kenya near the beach. since December started, there haven't been any deaths that I know of as a result of terror attacks. infact, I have seen a small number of British tourists swimming and playing volleyball on the beach defying travel advisories from there country and spent the December holiday in Kenya some of them came in entire families including small children. just last week about 6 buses carrying 250 tourists from France, Italy and Germany arrived on a beach hotel near where I stay for an extended new year holiday. a clear sign that if things stay like this Kenya will be back to normal in no time

There are European tourists enjoying life in Southern Nigeria.

774 Local Government regions in Nigeria, only about 30 have ever experienced terrorist attacks since 100 years of Nigeria's existence. 95% of Nigeria is very sweet and peaceful.

It was foolish for a Kenyan to critize Nigeria for having terrorism when his own Kenya has failed to defeat terrorism for the past 16 years.

That guy @MorrisaKenya made me see Kenyans as very senseless human beings. I would have tolerated criticism from a Zimbabwean whose country has no terrorists
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Henry120:
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Sunday Times, December 14 2014


Arms deal vessels marooned by neglect


ONLY one of South Africa’s four arms deal frigates and one of three submarines are operational — and some are falling apart.


One frigate has a cracked rudder, another needs an engine replaced and a third has been under repair for almost a year, the Sunday Times established this week.

This comes just days after Armscor gave details of a R4-billion tender to build six naval patrol boats, prompting doubts over the navy’s ability to maintain its fleet.

The new naval shopping list, dubbed Project Biro, is a boon for local shipbuilding companies but a potential disaster for taxpayers who will have to fund maintenance and repairs for years to come.

The naval dockyard in Simon’s Town is understaffed and undercapitalised.

Andrew Feinstein, an ANC MP who quit when the government curtailed a probe into the arms deal, said: “These revelations come as no surprise. The arms deal has been a monumental waste of money.”

The DA’s David Maynier said: “We don’t need another arms deal-like disaster where we acquire vessels we know we cannot operate or maintain. [/size]

Kereke kereke kereji keke...Yah ! (Fela Kuti).

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Henry120:
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Only 1 of your 4 Frigates is operational

Only 1 of your 3 submarines is operational.

All 26 South-African Augusta helicopters grounded

Only 3 C-130's are operational.

9 Gripen pilots for 26 jets

10 helicopters for a country with a 1.2 million sq km area

Makes a person wonder, why South-Africa even bothers with a military in the first place .
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Kai !!! So these South Africans have been fooling the world with photographs all these years !

Where is @THIZA the photographer, where is that fraudster, if I catch you, na double wahala for ya dead body !
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GreenandGold:
Yes they're, consult any web page about the Atlas Cheetah - country of origin is South Africa

Telling lies does not pay, your own brother might just stone you

mzilakazi:
It was done by SA with the help of Israel.

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Patchesagain:
[citation needed]

My citation is from a South African

mzilakazi:
It was done by SA with the help of Israel.

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kikuyu1:
Ohh lord! Why I avoid this thread. Anyway,agaugust in 2012 your brass came to KDF HQ. They wanted their Somalia playbook to use in Mali and requested some local on scene assistance. Accordingly a KDF spec ops team was despatched and was actually onsite for at least a week. On their return they counselled against any help due to the complexity of operations what with all the many players,Naij,local Malians and French forces in theatre. An officer informed me,not a rumour.

An officer also informed me too that Kenyan military top brass and high level intelligence forces are currently learning COIN war tactics and espionage from Nigerian army/air force, an officer informed me, it's not a rumour
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Henry120:
[size=16pt]The cost of the SAS Amatola’s refit may have been inflated by R100-million[/size]


THE Department of Defence has funnelled R406-million for ship maintenance and repairs to a private company because it says it can no longer look after its own fleet.
And the fortunate recipient of taxpayers’ cash is a company chaired and co-owned by the founder of the Friends of Jacob Zuma Trust, Don Mkhwanazi.

Southern African Shipyards, in which Mkhwanazi has a 48% stake together with its CEO, Prasheen Maharaj, has benefited from six naval contracts in the past three years, including a R335-million deal to refit the arms deal frigate SAS Amatola.
The department said it had had to outsource the work because of “capacity constraints” at the Simon’s Town naval dockyard. But the Durban company’s lucrative relationship with the military has raised concerns and prompted a call for a probe by the auditor-general.

The Sunday Times has established that:
The R335-million Amatola refit tender has ballooned to about R360-million because of “unforeseen events”;



Several industry experts said the original contract amount was inflated by between R60-million and R100-million;

The cost — one of the most expensive navy refits by a private firm — prompted questions in parliament by DA defence shadow minister David Maynier. In a written response two weeks ago, Defence and Military Veterans Minister Nosiviwe MapisaNqakula confirmed that R406million was being paid to Southern African Shipyards; and

Unlike the latest frigate refit tender issued earlier this year, the Amatola tender was not handled by Armscor but by the navy’s own procurement centre. Despite insisting the Amatola contract was put out to public tender, the navy has steadfastly refused to clarify queries about apparent irregularities.

Mkhwanazi and other Southern African Shipyards shareholders insist it is above board — and has nothing to do with Mkhwanazi’s ties to Zuma. Responding to the Sunday Times in writing, Mkhwanazi said: “The president does not award tenders . . . Any relationship with the president cannot be linked to contract awards made via a public tender process.”
Maharaj described as “sour grapes” the suggestion that the deal was politically motivated.

“Every government contract we have won, whether it has been Transnet or South African Navy, has been won through a public tender process,” he said.

“We don’t think our offer of R335-million tender was overpriced. In fact, it was the cheapest bid received via an open public tender process,” he said.
Maynier, who called for an independent probe, disagreed: “First, the cost of the SAS Amatola’s refit was stratospheric and may have been inflated by as much as R100-million.
“Second, the SAS Amatola’s refit brought the local shipbuilding industry to its knees because the dry dock was effectively shut down.

“And third, it’s strange that [R400-million] would be sunk into a private company in Durban, rather than into the South African Navy dockyard.”
Southern African Shipyards has also received a R1.4-billion contract to build tug boats for Transnet.

Mkhwanazi, a Southern African Shipyards shareholder since 2006 and Transnet director between 2010 and 2012, said he had declared his shareholding on the day he was appointed to the Transnet board.

“The tug contract awarded to Southern African Shipyards became effective on 1 August 2014, more than two and a half years after [my] tenure as a director of Transnet ended,” he said.

[size=16pt]South African military has corrupted corruption beyond repair and refit !

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Patchesagain:
Been posted many times

No, never !

#Show us the Reuters witness's revised Bangui battle report !
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Patchesagain:
Augustus

You cannot argue your way out of this

Professional researchers and acadics have found that nigeria is the 16th most failed state in the world

This is hard fact - indesputable.

The same whitemen professional researchers did NOT declare and publish the United Kingdom as a failed state when IRA terrorist waged a 27 year old religious war against Great Britain on British home-soil, but now white men list a black Nigeria as a failed state when we fight a religious war at home. Racism means double standards, so the whites have a new vocabulary that applies only to black and colored nations.

If those publishers can publish that the U.K. was a failed state for 27 years fighting IRA terrorists, then we will accept the same definition for Nigeria.

Oh, I forgot, South Africa too was a failed state for 30 years while fighting ANC terrorists
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jl115:
"War experience comes by fighting, Nigeria has that experience that South Africa is craving for and not getting"
How retaaarded are you?
Why would we be craving for war?

Where did I say SA should crave for war? I said you crave for combat experience which you DON'T have in your Hollywood SANDF.

Crave for war or not, there is war all over Africa, SANDF should wake up like real men and go fight to save smaller African countries like C.A.R Bangui where you ran away because Seleka teenage boys showed that real war is different from military photography album production.

Stop making excuses that South Africa has nothing to gain in C.A.R, why should you only help weaker African brothers if you are promised mineral wealth for deploying SANDF, is your SANDF a mercenary force.....soldiers of fortune and rewards?
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GreenandGold:
Show us a single sentence which says that "SAAF Mirage was modified into Cheetah jet by ISRAEL".

LOL, its common public knowledge all over internet since over 20 years ago. Simple google search will give you more than 5 sources
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GreenandGold:
No terrorist runs towns in Kenya..... Kenya does something you cowards will never do.

Kenya does NOT have 20,000 citizens rising up at home with AK-47, RPG, 23mm Cannon to wage war on their homesoil.

When they have it, we will see Kenyan military tremble, they spent 4 days dancing around a few El-Shabbab men that took over a shopping mall inside Nairobi, the whole Kenyan army and airforce was so confused they ran out of ideas then foolishly decided to use RPG on their own people to penetrate a shopping mall that had civilian hostages held inside ! When inside the mall, Kenyan soldiers began looting and stealing traders jwellery robbing the same people they were sent to save, is that an army?

Kenyan military fumbled and wobbled against about 10 terrorists that have no T-55 tanks.

Let Kenya first fight against 20,000 terrorists on home soil and win, then Kenyans can start talking.

Elshabbab still attacked and killed people inside Kenya just yesterday, they live in fear in Nairobi because terror has been plaguing them since 1998....

Kenyan military has failed to defeat terrorism for 16 years !
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Henry120:
[size=16pt]Baga: the carnage, inaccurate reportage and Government ‘indifference’ Part 1[/size]

Last week, the world was inundated with news of the attack on Baga town by the extremist group, Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'Awati Wal-Jihad ("People Committed to the Prophet's Teachings for Propagation and Jihad", otherwise known as Boko Haram. Baga is in the north-eastern Nigerian Borno State, close to Lake Chad. It lies north-east of the town of Kukawa which is the headquarters of the Kukawa Local Government Area. The town is approximately 196km from Maiduguri, the capital of Borno State.

Indeed, Baga is more or less a border community and this played a significant role in its being chosen as headquarters of the Multinational Joint Task Force MJTF, comprising troops from Nigeria, Chad, Niger and Cameroon—put together as a multilateral response to neutralising the menace posed by Boko Haram. To the residents of Baga town, and given the various brushes they have had with the extremist group, it is doubtful if this joint force is actually worth the piece of paper containing the instruments that decreed its existence.

The attack last week came on the heels of the withdrawal of Chadian forces from the base at Baga, two days before Boko Haram came calling. According to Nigerian security sources quoted by domestic media, the Chadians claimed they were rotating their troops. The Cameroonians have never contributed to the force, while the Nigeriens, in the aftermath of the attack in question, have announced that they will not be sending troops anytime soon. According to foreign media sources, Niger’s foreign minister, Mohamed Bazoum, has clearly affirmed that his country would not step in to help recapture the area.

At this very moment, Nigerian forces are involved in coordinated ground and air operations to dislodge the terror group from Baga, discountenancing any regional support for such effort. If past history is anything to go by, they will prevail soonest but what often happens after that (revenge attacks by the group in the face of poor garrisoning efforts by security forces) is raising apprehension already. Perhaps, relying on a regional strategy was useful for mobilising against Boko Haram in the first place, but domestic observers of Nigerian diplomacy have always felt that such regional effort should only be political, while Nigeria single-handedly provide a military response, something they believe she is capable of doing as long as the local population in areas sympathetic to Boko Haram sided with the authorities.

So how did Nigeria get to this sorry pass? Indeed, several successes have been made by Nigerian forces against Boko Haram, but these are hardly reported, even by the domestic press in Nigeria. Should Boko Haram take a town somewhere however, it is often reported with glee by both local and foreign media. The pattern of the insurgency over the past year has been such that Boko Haram, with the exception of a few towns, actually is not controlling the expanse of territory ascribed to it by the press. It is usually flushed out of any town or village it has taken, often a few days after such ‘capture,’ by Nigerian forces. The group is however quite adept at propaganda and seems ahead of the Nigerians in utilising this to maximum advantage.

Read more at http://www.gaiya.net/

[size=16pt]The real truth comes out !
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jl115:
Whats your point?That Nigeria has a bigger problem with terrorism than Kenya?

Nigeria has 90 million Muslims, how many Muslims are in Kenya?

Yes with 90 million Muslims, bigger than the whole nation of Kenya itself, logic says Nigeria will have a bigger terrorism problem.

Pakistan has a bigger terrorsim problem than Kenya....is it because Pakistani military is weaker than Kenyan military?
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giles14:
any idea on its country origin

It's a German made ATGM inspected by Nigerian officials 2005. Not sure if we bought it.

DieVluit:
I'm

MEND is not Boko haram. As we speak, Henry Okah sits in a south African prison eating pap. We saved Jonathan alright. Jonathan CONFIRMED it himself.

Nope, he did not say you did, Jonathan said intelligence reports from South Africa, not your Southie government report, there are 500,000 Nigerians in South Africa, plus a Nigerian embassy with military men and intelligence agents working from inside South Africa. Nigerian network of intel inside South Africa saved Jonathan. American CIA is in South Africa, they can get information and send it to Obama to save him.

That is how countries work in espionage circles
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patches689:
(btw, Nigeria is the 16th most failed state in the world)
http://ffp.statesindex.org/nigeria

No failed state seats on UN Security council seat, Nigeria seats there, and is top contender for permanent UN elite security council seat.

Failed states don't lead ECOWAS and AU military missions

Failed states don't host World Economic Forum meetings.

Failed states have NO defined political structure. Failed states don't hold fee and fair elections.

Nigeria is just state at war, Somalia is more like a failed state. Nigeria has a central government and it enforces law.

So United Kingdom was a failed state for 27 years because IRA rebels were waging religious war on British home soil? Fool

War experience comes by fighting, Nigeria has that experience that South Africa is craving for and not getting

@Patches has a FAILED BRAIN
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jln115:
Nigeria is ranked higher on the Terrorism index than Kenya, so yes they can criticize Nigeria.

Two sick men....both need a doctor, his ulcer is bigger than mine....you both have ulcer
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jln115:
The Super Hind is produced by ATE South Africa, the whole aircraft can either be assembled in SA and then exported, or existing platforms can be upgraded to Super Hind specifications, and yes we did export/Upgrade Algerian Hinds: www.redstar.gr/Foto_red/Eng/Helicopter/SuperHind.html
Secondly what western equipment did we import and then trasferred to a different country?

Cheetah jet is French made Mirage.

Alouette Helicopters form France.

European artillery, and any Impalas (Italy made) and naval boats you may have re-sold.

Also many smaller arms , go check on SIPRI

patches689:
Lol, this guy doesnt know that the Mirage we sell has been extensively modified and is comparable in quality and performance to the F-15 E Strike eagle in terms of ground attack ability

SAAF Mirage was modified into Cheetah jet by ISRAEL not you !
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DieVluit:
Not only did South Africa save Nigeria from the chains of military rule, now South Africa also saved Nigeria's president from assassination.

It is what it is.


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“Okar bombed Abuja and the attempt was to assassinate me but intelligence report from South Africa hinted me on the plan to assassinate me. He is now in jail in South Africa and they said MEND dumped Jonathan. Okar that wanted to assassinate Jonathan, will he support Jonathan?’’


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/why-i-should-be-re-elected-jonathan/

20,000 Boko Haram have not been able with their 1,000 suicide bombers, to even reach the gate of Jonathan's house.

You don't know who saved Nigerians from military rule, it was Nigerians themselves, NADECO coalition led by Nobel prize winner Prof. Soyinka and the EMINENT NIGERIANS G34 group led by Ex-Vice President Ekwueme, those are the two forces (Apart from individual Nigerians, the masses, and giant activists like Chief Gani Fawahinmi the legal luminary)

History records the truth....South African and ALL South African are missing on the list, they did NOTHING for Nigeria

Since South Africa has NO SINGLE concrete achievement done for Africa, and you are desperate to find one, please look elsewhere.

[size=16pt]http://www.onlinenigeria.com/abacha_last_days.asp[/size]

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Kafrican:
Common sense is subjective, just because we Kenyans don't say what you want to hear doesn't make less common sense. First of all you should care to know the damn difference between alshabaab and alQaeda,

the 1998 Bombing of the US embassy was carried out by Osama bin Laden, while he was leaving in Sudan - when Sudan was still one Nation. It was the first statement of Osama, against the US.

The other attack on Nov. 14, 2002 -- Terrorist attack at an Israeli-owned hotel in Kikambala- Was carried out by palestinian Terrorists with direct links to alqaeda, The first terrost attack on Kenyan soil actually happended in the 70s carried out by palestinians, they are still holding a grudge atfer Kenya help Israeli free about 120 israeli hostages from Uganda entebe airport in 'Operation Thunderbolt' in wiich palestinian terrost had hijacked an Israeli plane and landed it in Uganda, wich Idi amin supported. Since then there have been many palestinian and Iranian terrorist caught in Kenya with Explosives,.... After the rescue Idi Amin issued orders to retaliate and slaughter several hundred Kenyans present in Uganda, the kenyans had to run away back to Kenya. Thats why Kenya is the strongest Isreali Ally in Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Entebbe

Alshabaab attacks started in 2011, after alshabaab started kidnapping people from Kenya, and Kenya declared war on alshabaab and alshabaab promised to retaliate, thats when alshabaab attacks started.

Alshabaab attacks inside Kenya happen in this manner, they hide among the population, use sleeper cells either created long time ago by alqaeda or created by there sympathizers, take mortor bike throw a grenade in to a restaurant or bar, then run away like cowerds, or in other situations, they send guys on a suicide mission, to launch gun attacks and if police are near-by then they would die as martyrs and if they are not then they escape. Most of the time, they use the minimum number to cause maximu damage.

On the other hand boko-Haram anounce that they are going to attack tomorrow!!! Then they come in there convoys, and when they attack a town, they take control of everything, Everything, including any military barracks near the town, Isnt that a bigger mockery!!! When you guys retaliate, they just attacke another town, it just goes on and on.

And for your info, Kenya too has waged battle with intenal isurjency inside its own soil and won. An e.g is the shifta war between Kenya and somali fighting for territory. After a ceasefire deal was signed, the local population along the boder on wasn't satisfied and they started a bloody insujency that whent of for years, and it was bloody, supported by the then legitimate somali government. and at that time the northern part of Kenya was exlusivly inhabited by Somalis, so don't give us an excuse about your war beeng supported by religious leaders or muslims, every insurjecy has someone supporting it. If you know they support it, why don't you arrest them? Even after declaring a state of emergency in three states, BH still gets its supplies and funding, they still run arround in APCs. You don't have to arrest or Kill every single muslim that supports BH, atleast just take out the guys with pick-ups and APCs and Big anti-aircraft guns for a start so they can stop posting pics showing off to the rest of the world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifta_War

When Kenya has eliminated ALL terrorism 100% on your home soil, come back and criticize Nigeria.

That is common sense
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GreenandGold:
Nigeria doesn't make MRAPs

Nigeria has the most modern and most powerful MRAP in Africa
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This thread is not about manufacturing, it's about what you can do in battle
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MikeCZAR:
Nigeria. Is nowhere.

ZERO equipment exports.

The biggest arms manufacturer in Africa is EGYPT.

They don't export because they want to use all at home
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jln115:
I can see how un-educated you are:
+-12 Cheetah Fighters to Ecuador
12 Impala Trainer jets to Brazil
We Exported Super Hinds to Algeria
We export Denel NTW 20 Anti Material Rifles
72 G6 Howitzers to UAE
ThoroughTec exported simulator to Australian, Swedish and Croatian militaries .

You are re-exporting European weapons imported into South African military. You take glory for that?

Nigeria can export our Jaguar jets, F-7 jets, Vickers tanks, etc all because we are replacing them.

So that makes Nigeria an arms exporter ?

The fact that SA exports what it imported, made your position on world arms market rise, and it is a fake impression.

The most expensive South African arms exports are aircraft imported from Europe, used and re-exported, them your arms sales revenue goes up and you claim that you manufactured those weapons.....FRAUD
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GreenandGold:
We will never have 20 000 armed terrorist in South Africa, we're not a failed state like Nigeria.

Reason why you will NEVER war experience like Nigeria ! SANDF has NEVER fought a battle at home.

Tells you why AU puts SANDF under Nigerian army Brigadier in African Union force 2015.

Explains why UN forces SANDF to bow and kneel under the command of little Tanzania in Congo DRC war.

That war experience South Africa does not have, will make you permanent slaves to Nigeria and other African nations that have it

Reason why the simple challenge from Rhino poachers at home, became a defeat for SANDF.

A failed state exiles 500 Rhinos to a non-failed state called Botswana, the failed state that cannot protect it's land is South Africa.

Botswana gives salvation to South Africa, 'weaker' countries saves your azz

patches689:
Early Rueters reports (from the days following the battle) said so - but as the story progressed, they revised the figure to 13

Show us where the same Reuters journalist revised SANDF casualties to 13 by his own account.

All I see are South Africans revising Seleka casualties to 1,000 via laptop and internet.

Show us the Reuters witness's revised report !
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Henry120:
You only have 9 Gripen pilots, have you already began exporting the mothballed Gripen Jets to mexico ?

You don't export attack helicopters, you don't even have them, you only got 10.

Trainer jets, you can't export what you don't have.

Sniper rifles, you don't export them either.

Simulators, day dreaming again, you should be more concerned with simulating your 9 Gripen pilots to 26.

Tanks, quit smoking weed, it apparently is too strong for your feeble brain.

Howitzers, you only got 40, are you planning on exporting your lowly 40 howitzers?

MRAPs, A farmer in Namibia makes them. The only reason a couple countries bought your MRAPs was because demand far surpassed their various domestic supplies.

Today, orders have ceased, as the Bushmaster, fennek, CS/VP3, Cougar, BMC kirpi, kaya, dingo, Typhoon have met all demands.

Not even Somalia want your MRAPs, they instead went for the kaya.

Oh ! What a bashing....like Bash Ali uppercuts !
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