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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:40pm On Dec 16, 2014
jl115:
South Africa is building full sized aircraft carrier!!!
After falling to build one small OPV on project Biro for 17 years.

Lol, SAN will end up with a fishing trawler with machine gun mounted on it
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:37pm On Dec 16, 2014
jl115:
Uhm...why would SAN publisize exact details of it refit? Besides you said the Valours never even went in for a refit, and i just proved you wrong, As for your so called stealth, even in your source it states and i quote "The cutting edge exclusive design gives minimum radar footprint" As in the minimum radar footprint which the X-38 design allows, if you didnt know, the X-38 is offered as a civilian boat as well, and thus its not designed to be stealthy.
NNS Aradu refit details 2005 was fully published. It's no big deal when you refit Valour frigate and the radars, missiles, guns, all remain the same....all SAN did was refit a new engine as your South African navy man Andrew Coetze posted here last year when he said the Valour frigate engines are dying fast because of patrol duties, German crap was sold to ANC government for bribes as usual....overpriced crappy Valour frigates with inferior missiles and defective combat suite....F-7 jet will sink your frigate like iceberg sank the Titanic.

Stealth Catamarans, you are still my dull student, so I have to teach you again, your source talks about patrol catamaran version, my source talks about combat catamaran version, reason why missiles were not mentioned in your inferior source.

Learn to post what you are asked, e.g when asked to write about army IFV don't post police APC....get it? Dullard, get it? Say yes sir....come on say it...
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
jl115:
Looks like SAN might be getting as much as 8 OPVs and 6 IPVs

"Recent reports suggest that the final roll out will consist of eight OPVs and six IPVs, replacing the current three T-Craft IPVs and three remaining strike vessels. In a nod to modernisation efforts, the new OPVs are expected to carry Autonomous Underwater Vehicles."

www.defenceiq.com/naval-and-maritime-defence/articles/south-africa-puts-out-call-for-opv-design/
Bwahahaha grin grin grin

Your above story is dated May 2012, almost 3 years old news, yet SAN does not know the name of OPV and IPV it will buy....because they will buy NOTHING....no money !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:59pm On Dec 16, 2014
jl115:
Looks like SAN might be getting as much as 8 OPVs and 6 IPVs

"Recent reports suggest that the final roll out will consist of eight OPVs and six IPVs, replacing the current three T-Craft IPVs and three remaining strike vessels. In a nod to modernisation efforts, the new OPVs are expected to carry Autonomous Underwater Vehicles."

www.defenceiq.com/naval-and-maritime-defence/articles/south-africa-puts-out-call-for-opv-design/
Nigerian navy is buying mini aircraft carrier
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:55pm On Dec 16, 2014
jl115:
I posted a source from the manufacturer that state that your catamarans arent stealthy.
As for the Valour refit, once again i have to repost a link just for you.

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=36892:second-valour-class-frigate-coming-up-for-refit&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242
No details of the refit, so it's the change of engine @Andrewza posted here, the Valour frigates are so bad SAN replaced one engine in few years of purchase, Germany ripped off South Africa.

As to NN Stealth Catamaran, you posted manufacturers website summary of the boats with scanty info, I posted a full detailed manufacturers pdf specifications fact sheet with many pages of data you never knew and I PROVED IT'S STEALTH OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED my research beats your own....don't cry too much my white friend, you didn't perform poorly because of your skin colour, rather you failed because Shout Afrikaa breeds citizens with the lowest I.Q. in Africa. Sorry o !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:46pm On Dec 16, 2014
EVarn:
@henry,i sense that your apparent dislike for mohammadu buhari stems from the fact that:
*he is a muslim
*he is a northener
*he plotted a necessary coup to oust shagari's dubious regime and corrupt first republic
why else would you oppose the man so much?.have you forgotten that during his regime,when chad annexed some of nigeria's territorial islands in lake chad,buhari mobilized battalions of nigerian soldiers,blockaded southern chad,siezed the western region of lake chad{and all its surrounding territories} and chased the chadians deep into ndajema?.wasnt it buhari who jailed over 300 corrupt 'democratic' politicians?,wasnt it buhari who kept the economy afloat at $10/barrel,and used counter trade policies to barter oil bunkering?,wasnt it buhari who built and commissioned the 4 oil refineries nigeria has today?,one naira was equal to a dollar,before babangida came into power to foolishly devalue the naira.you call buhari a selfish religious bigot,but right now buhari is the man nigeria needs
my personal list, not in any particular order :

Martin Luther Agwayi
Nuhu Ribadu
Goodluck Jonathan
Chris Anyanwu
Godswill Akpabio
Babatunde Fashola
David Mark
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:38pm On Dec 16, 2014
mzilakazi:
Saharareporters know well where to blush those apple cuts. They haven't even started yet you are crying foul. Eishu!!!!!!!!
The story was said to be written by an UNKOWN SOLDIER who is more likely to be a civilian newspaper journalist fooling gullible people like you grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:36pm On Dec 16, 2014
jl115:
Yes PW Botha and you are true racist.
Nope, am not racist, am a victim of racism in America.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:28pm On Dec 16, 2014
jl115:
Sources have been posted, consult the archives you village idi0t.
Nope, you have to post it, no such proof was ever posted here. You asked for proof of Nigerian stealth Catamarans, I posted many photos, web links, etc.

Now you post the proof of Valour frigate refit, as all google searches say it does not exist.

Busted !!!!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:24pm On Dec 16, 2014
mzilakazi:
Did you read between the lines of what happened that the Inkhata freedom party clashed with the ANC members? Rather explain to me what happened.
Yes, black on black bloodshed as Soweto tribes brutalize one another same way white-masters brutalized them
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:20pm On Dec 16, 2014
MikeCZAR:
Likely to be armed with the Mokopa.
Everything about SANDF has now become likely all because SANDF is so broke, no soldier is sure of his job because of impending retrenchment while all weapon/equipment purchase has been suspended indefinitely.

I hope there won't be an auction of SANDF equipment in the second hand market...

Gbanjo ! Ring auction bell ! Gbanjo ! Submarine o ! Two for 250 !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:38pm On Dec 16, 2014
mzilakazi:
Tribalism is pronounced in Nigerian language. You are the most racist and tribalist creatures on earth.
May I show you video of Inkatha Vs Mandela bloody tribal massacres?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:30pm On Dec 16, 2014
mzilakazi:
Bwahahahaha..... so, it is no longer ICBM and nuclear warheads but simple missile technology which you could have asked from SA. Now, because of shame you couldn't do it. It was in 2004 and yet you are still struggling to just make the ends meet.
Source clearly says Ballistic missiles :

"Nigeria has admitted it wants to develop a ballistic missile capability and has been in talks with North Korea. "
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:18pm On Dec 16, 2014
jl115:
Dude you are a fcking racist, period!BTW you can be glad that you are on the other side of the continent, because if you had to say those things about my race in my face, you will most likely get an Lee-Enfield up your a$$.
The true racists are your benefactors like Pietha Botha....ask Winnie Mandela how your uncles ruined her marriage to Nelson by separating the innocent black couple for 27 years .

World Court in the Hague should shove an RPG up your white azz
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:13pm On Dec 16, 2014
mzilakazi:
What do you know about technological transfer. SA currently has the technology to build nuclear warheads.
SA is begging Russia to build your future nuclear reactors
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:10pm On Dec 16, 2014
jl115:
Its ok we have already built ICBMs and nuclear weapons in the 1980s
All obsolete and dismatled
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:08pm On Dec 16, 2014
mzilakazi:
What about your ever shrinking foreign reserves? You are using all your savings to protect the integrity of your useless naira. If you would have known that our debt has shrunk more than ever before because we are the nation that is trustworthy. We pay back what we owe and the world is always willing to open their wallets for SA.
Foreign reserves are not usually static and can go up or down slightly. Nigeria still has surplus by reserves minus debt, South Africa ends up in deficit as your debt swallows up all your reserves....bad economy is the legacy your corrupt and incompetent ANC will hand over to future generations
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:04pm On Dec 16, 2014
patches689:
If you need to kick him out to regain controll of your house, yes he did
Not so, I need to kick him out because he invited himself in, he is not my guest
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:02pm On Dec 16, 2014
patches689:
If you need to kick him out to regain controll of your house, yes he did
Nope, he merely infiltrated.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:01pm On Dec 16, 2014
jl115:
His source was from 2007, all our Valours have been refitted since then, sources have been posted.
Show us proof of refit and details of what has been done
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:59pm On Dec 16, 2014
patches689:
Adamawa state governor Bala Ngilari said government forces had recaptured the town [Mubi], in alliance with local vigilante groups and traditional hunters.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30043867

Who did they recapture it from?
Journalists language for infiltrations
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:56pm On Dec 16, 2014
patches689:
Are you in the N.E?

Why did your army launch offensives against towns it allready holds?
To flush out infiltration
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:50pm On Dec 16, 2014
mzilakazi:
I am not getting paid to teach you of everything every time. Was it not you who underated our culture of teaching and learning. Now, look how ignorant are you with regard to functioning of flying hours in the aviation industry.
Escapology is a sign of defeat shocked shocked
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:38pm On Dec 16, 2014
patches689:
In reality your war-time budget is some $5 billion, and accounts for 20% of your governments spending
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/161390-jonathan-signs-nigerias-2014-budget-defence-gets-20-per-cent.html

Our peacetime is $4.7 billion and accounts for less than 6% of government spending http://www.treasury.gov.za/documents/national%20budget/2012/enebooklets/Vote%2022%20Defence%20and%20Military%20Veterans.pdf

Then consider that your military stands at 150 000 while ours stands at 78 000

We spend nearly double the ammount of money per man as you do. And this is our peacetime, the giant is sleeping.
South African foreign dollar debt is a whopping $40 billion, while Nigerian debt is a fantastic $7 billion we can pay off 5 times over and still have pocket change left for new weapons procurement

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:33pm On Dec 16, 2014
mzilakazi:
Please!! remember to gather some woods, invite some young men and make some fire to sit around while listening to that tale.
[size=16pt]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3438539.stm[/size]
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:29pm On Dec 16, 2014
Henry120:
I'm saying the SAN bought Frigates with a defective combat suite. Your very own politicians have confirmed this, I have absolutely no reason to doubt them.

I don't care about the french or saudi's really.
Chief don't make @Patches to commit suicide o !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:26pm On Dec 16, 2014
mzilakazi:
It was not by my own doing that your father and mother borne you out of a country that was so unfortunate to have a single white man. Please, stop polarising the nation of SA. Whites are not immigrants in SA, they were born and bred in SA.
Your Boer white masters are invaders and immigrant armies from Europe, they invaded South Africa to kill, maim, r.ape, enslave, imprison, oppress, humiliate, rule, rob and cheat you blacks in your own ancestral fatherland forever and ever...amen !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:20pm On Dec 16, 2014
patches689:
Aparently you hold knee mortars with your hands

Aparently no one bothered to build a handle onto one

Aparently augugbugug is a blithering nitwit
The photo you posted is not SANDF knee mortar, lets see one with SANDF handle or grips.

Meanwhile, a handle is an old fashioned design with risks, your hand is to close to the metal, head wave radiates and you still feel it, then one little mistake and your back hand touches the hot mortar it will skin you alive.

Your SANDF version of knee mortar has poor safety design and is out dated.

Nigeria has advanced to build light detachable and collapsibe tripod stand to beat your poor safety standards
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:55pm On Dec 16, 2014
patches689:
[citation needed]

[citation needed]
Gowind OPV offer to Nigerian navy was posted here last year by @Donnian007 go see his posts in archives. Defenceweb says Nigeria is planning for 10 stealth OPVs, 2 missile Corvettes and 3 attack Submarines. Stop asking me to repeat old posts for you, go search for them with your own time, jobless ANC welfare gift package dependant
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:49pm On Dec 16, 2014
Henry120:
Who's going to approve loans for these imaginary Frigates?

You can't maintain the ones you have now, you still owe 40% of your 1999 misplaced spending spree, I mean, how do you plan on funding them?
South African navy will pay new warship manufacturers with cowrie shells or Rhino horns
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:31pm On Dec 16, 2014
jl115:
By the Time we have our new OPVs we will have the 300km range BrahMos cruise missle for our Valours.
"Several countries including Vietnam,South Africa, Egypt, Oman, and Brunei have expressed interest in the missile"
http://capsindia.org/files/documents/CAPS_Infocus_RS_2.pdf
Nigeria is interested in ICBM and nuclear weapons from Korea and Iran
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:28pm On Dec 16, 2014
mzilakazi:
Bwahahahahaha.... stop fooling yourself. Flying hours does not work like that, stupppid!!
Tell us how it works....Mumu

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