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space9880:
that is where the spirit of the fight comes in... how long can a kangal keep up the chase? a malinois can go on and on but how long can a kangal go?

space9880:
security agents usually wants suspects apprenhended not mauled and mind you a malinois is intimidating and brave just try to watch videos of rotts and the rest doing bite work you will see that the Mali does it better.

Eveezy:
Effectiveness in carrying out all guarding functions in a home.

Eveezy:
Like u said more damage, but a malinois would do damage, murder is a crime punishable by law, if ur dog kills, u re d one to be charged after the dog has been put down. In ur scenario of the heavily bodied man, if a kangal and malinois were there, the malinois will be d first to apprehend the intruder. Effectiveness in carrying out all guarding functions in a home. kangal and cauc are restricted to bark nd attack. But they wont be effective in certain scenerios like d one I gave earlier

oluomoadebayo:
Disappointing, so sad that I put down an inferior dog? What am I supposed to do with the poor dogs?

Eveezy:
Bros, I really dont know y u re pained. The fact that someone picked a particalar breed doesnt mean he has not worked with others. You are taking this argument too emotional, probably cos u own a cauc. I do not own a malinois either, but I have owned a Gsd, Cauc, rott, Boerboel, Neopolitan mastiff, local dogs. I may also not be a proffesional dog trainer, but I have seen trainers work thier dogs, A caucasian is a strong breed, a good guard dog, but when u want to get a work done effectively, you dont use a caucasian. I didnt wanna speak on this thread again because it seemed like u ve already made up ur mind, nd no one can try convince u.

There are so many things a malinois will do, that a caucasian cant be used for as regards guarding.
When Olumoadebayo is talking about first hand experience, he is not saying it to rub it on ur face, but to make u understand that its not just by seeing on videos, u need to go out of ur way and watch how these breed of dogs are handled, u watched videos which dey uploaded, but u didnt know how dey got dere, u didnt see d rigorous training nd task carried out, a cauc will not handle d training a malinois will. Guarding and also been used for general security goes beyond barking nd attacking an intruder as depicted in d screenshots u uploaded. Now this staged scenerio u uploaded, arent dey like scenes? But forget abt dt, lets take dis scenario, u parked ur car to open ur gate wit ur glass down, you have a cauc and malinois in ur compound, a car jacker, quickly entered ur car and wanna drive away, which of those dogs would be able to stop the car thief?

If u check some of my thread, I visited a known cauc breeder, there is this guy pumba, he is big and fvcking aggresive, his size is an added advantage in taking an intruder down, but there are so many things that pumba cant do, even if trained, pumba cant be given the task that a malinois will do.

When I talk about effectiveness, u should say malinois. I am not saying malinois is the best in the world, we also have the Working Gsds that do what Malinois do.

Do not take this personal, am not trying to support anybody. To an average Nigerian, an aggressive big dog like cauc an co is sufficient, but to a proffesional dog trainer, what they look at is efficiency nd effectiveness. The videos u uploaded, check the trainers out and see the dogs they keep, do a background check, do not jst watch d videos of dogs they train

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GRACEGLORY:
This dam is got a serious pride issue.

GRACEGLORY:
This dam is got a serious pride issue.

welzyj2:
Your dog looks lovely agboedeh

oluomoadebayo:
It is very funny and strange how many people became an expert on this thread but very sad when I realized many of you cannot create a meaningful thread of your own because you have nothing to say. You don't even have good dogs to boast with but you jumped to the chance to flex your muscle on someone else thread instead of you to watch and learn.

Most of you have not seen a real CO or Kangal in your life, yet, you are talking as if you leave with one.

Nobody can become a medical doctor with information online only, you need to pass through the process of schooling, training and practicing to become one. It is the same as a dog expert, you need to walk the talk and not just be a social media expert.

welzyj2:
Hmmm......open a thread to keep everyone updated.
If you have one kindly post the link.

Eveezy:
Bro we all had that dream for local dogs, until reality hits us, the local breed are extreme mutts, any attempt to bring a foreign breed would taint dem more, ur 15 years may become longer. Let me guess, dis is ur first or second year of ur project, I will keep tab in 5 years time lets see if u still have dis vision

IamAnderson:
it would have been strange if it didn't look like abbegs dog.....why? abbeg is my brother! haha

oluomoadebayo:
Goodluck with your project. Focus on that and make a name for yourself. I’m disappointed not because of your project or chosen dog but because I thought you are a seasoned dog guru.

oluomoadebayo:
My bad! You are a local dog owner, yet, you are arguing like a pro. One of the reason we have no culture towards dogs in this country. I’m so disappointed in myself.

Starboytwo:
Hmm I have simply enjoyed the show here....i have also learnt a lot about dog.... I have never owned one but I love them....im afraid I'm gonna spoil one if I eventually get... But all in all very informative thread and me and my bro have an idea what to get now if we gonna get one....

The argument for and against is really a good thing, cuz made me see the two sides evenly...

And why so much training with dogs... I thought you'd just get one and feed milk till they grow or something, what I'm reading here is like taking care of a baby...

oluomoadebayo:
. You don’t have any clue to what a guarding dog is all about.

oluomoadebayo:
With due respect, I think it’s not right for me to argue about dogs with you.

oluomoadebayo:
With due respect, I think it’s not right for me to argue about dogs with you. You don’t have any clue to what a guarding dog is all about. As for me I’m a Malinois breeder not Kangal or CO

Eveezy:
Hmm, question is what in that video that shows a kangal is a good guard dog. They are big, scary, aggresive nd hard to control, is that y its a good guard dog? A dog that cannot percieve an actual threat?

IamAnderson:
So the dogs look like they were playing to you?
How can somebody be so blinded by their ego?... Instead of you to reply with your own receipts like I did, you're talking about gameness??
I'm disappointed

oluomoadebayo:
Will you not be there to protect a Kangal or CO

oluomoadebayo:
Unforyunately, Kongo is dead.

IamAnderson:
Exactly what I said earlier, you are using the malinois to chase and attack poachers not stronger threats
If the malinois are so powerful to protect those animals, why the machine guns??
Remember when I said Earlier that when malinois are used, people are usually armed with them??

Eveezy:
u mentioned wrestling, which is an actual staged play, real sports like taekwondo, even kungfu and d rest, a fighter should be lighter, u can be built but not heavy, u must not exceed a particular weight, nd y is dt? D heavier u are, d lesser ur agility and ability to do certain moves.
You mentioned weak, y would someone weak pick up a fight with a built guy, d comparison u made in relation wit weak is best depicted as a lhasa against a caucasian

abbeg:
You think poachers just pick up rifles throw in some bullets and go elephant hunting? The size and caliber of the bullet matters a lot.Even what the bullet is made of.Titanium bullet will do much more damage than regular lead bullets.And the kangal was shot with a pistol.Even with high powered rifles and bullets big game are shot multiple times or in vital regions.Did you know a buffalos skull can deflect a regular bullet?And rhino skin can deflect a round from a magnum (one of the most powerful handguns).You don't just walk into a bush and start putting one bullet into animals.Try it with say a male lion and you might not survive.And kangals have thick skin though not nearly bulletproof.
Aggression doesn't signify loyalty.Most times dogs that bark a lot or are too aggressive are nervous and are protecting themselves.Not their owners.Most Nigerian dogs are like this (being left to grow on chain and maltreated as 'training' )
As for why Dobermans aren't used I've said it a million times.