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[/quote][quote author=Tisty link=topic=23466.msg609028#msg609028 date=1158317163]This is spreading like wild fire among the youths and even the girls are now getting involved. The nigerian image has already been badly injured and allowing this syndrome to inflict more injury would be placing a curse on ourselves. Foreigners no longer feel convenient chatting with us. this ought not to be so.Even if it takes the EFCC to plant its official in every cafe, I dont think its too much a sacrifice for the Nigerian Image. Or what do you think?

It is easy if the country is serious:

1. Government should provide jobs to the jobless, just as it is finally doing in the Niger Delta region

2. Let the authorities be serious about identifying who is and who is not a Nigeria. This current National ID Card is a charade; we need a serious security code and human identification and forensic database (very easy, if the government is honest.

3. Introduce a Cashless society: make a law that a certain amount should not be carried cash. Platic moneies & cards should be encouraged as alternatives. It is most painful that a few months ago, the CBN (of all people) instructed all the banks in Nigeria to dismantle their ATMs mounted outside their bank premises. Whatever reason behind it!!!! It is seen to be anti-crime fighting.

4. Sincere efforts should be made in the area of security: mount CCTVs and other security and surveillance equipment in strategic areas.

5. (4) above means that there must be a steady supply of electricity. Luckily, there are UPS, Inverters and Solar energy

6. The Nigeria Police, EFCC and relevant authorities must be sincere in the resolve to stamp out crime and corruption.

5. Nigerians should be made to be responsible enough to report such people and cases. People know these criminals; they are our brothers, sisters, relatives, friends and neighbours in one way or the other. And the citizens should also be protected when they BLOW THE WHISTLE

6. Every cyber cafe MUST have a CCTV to show who come in and goes out any system. You know this shows date, day and time up to seconds. And can be played back when it is discovered that a fruadulent mail went out from a particular system. For those with personal internet sevice in their PCs/mobile phones, very easy. KYC process should be intensified from the end of the SERVICE PROVIDER. (KYC means: KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER: a regulatory injunctions for banks and highly sensitive areas to ensure that customers are known very well before transactions are resumed with them).

7. Proper legislation and legal framework: There should be death penalty for such actvities. That is why I like China, and some other Asian nations. You can not sabotage their system and live. They kill you. And that is why their economy continues to grow. Evidence Act must also be in place to nail culprits with text messages and other technological discoveries (This is not yet finalised in Nigeria)

8. Phone number LOCATION IDENTICATION EQUIPMENT: This ensures that criminals are smoked out wheresoever they are calling ffrom. This is world technology today.

There could be more other ways. To say it is not possible is where the problem lies. "IMPOSSIBILITY IS IN THE MIND OF THE WEAK."

Kill the Igbo people! Kill them! BUT I ASSURE YOU, THEY WILL NOT DIE. THEY WILL LIVE TO SURMOUNT ALL INJUSTICES. AND ONE DAY, JUST LIKE MARTIN LUTHER KING'S ", ONE DAY, MY FOUR LITTLE CHILDREN WILL BE JUDGED NOT BY THE COLOURS OF THEIR SKIN BUT BY THE CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER, " THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL.

After Pharoah ordered the killing of innocent children to get at the people of Israel, after Herod commissioned his soldiers to slaughter all children born to the hebrews when he heard about Christ's birth, WHAT HAPPENED NEXT? You cannot kill destiny!

"He who forgets the History, loses one eye."

IT IS TEARFUL!!! VERY, VERY TEARFUL. ARISE O, NIGERIANS & RETRIEVE THY DIGNITY. REVOLUTION IS THE ANSWER.

[/quote][quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=351749.msg4928964#msg4928964 date=1258284317]Nigeria doesnt need anything than democratic govt that works,,

That's correct! BUT, HOW DO WE GET THIS DEMOCRATIC GOVT THAT WORKS? THAT IS THE QUESTION. DO WE FOLD OUR ARMS FOR MANNER TO FALL FROM HEAVEN? WHAT DID OTHER SUCCESSFUL & WORKING DEMOCRACIES DO TO ACHIEVE THEIRS?

[EVEN A 10 YEAR OLD!!!]

I think I need to UNSUSCRIBE from this NL thing. This is obviously NOT where I need to be. MODERATOR, PLEASE, YOU MAY NEED TO SEPARATE THIS THING BY AGE BRACKETS. I have been hearing school locker, music class and 10 years old, & such disppointing things showing that I am in a PAEDIATRIC CLASS OR WHAT!!!!.

KIDS, LET ME WARN YOU. IF YOU GO INTO THIS THING PREMATURELY, YOU ARE RUINED ACADEMICALLY, EMOTIONALLY, PSYCHOLOGICALLY, PHYSICALLY, SPIRITUALLY, EVEN FINANCIALLY AND CAREER-WISE. MARK MY WORDS. I AM AN EXPERIENCED PERSON AND I RUN A VOLUNTARY EDUCATIVE PROGRAMME FOR TEENAGERS AND PRE-UNIVERSITY STUDENTS.

DIRECTION!!!

I thank you all for speaking. Many have spoken in line with the problem and solution, but some have not proffered any way forward. Rather, some members have started digressing from the topic. We need solution. Nigeria is about to change. We only need to start from here. Let us revisit the topic & align our contributions in that line.

Do we just sit back and criticise? No way! Enough is enough!!!

Guys. It's an individual thing. It's also a personal philosophy thing. If I feel marrying a 3rd class woman will affect my children's intelligence or my flow with the spouse, there is nothing wrong in me withdrawing. A discontinued courtship is better than a discontented marriage. I know many friends who have done it. I have done it too [THAT IS ME; I AM NOT YOU!!!!]. But the difference is that I followed the academic progress of the babe involved. I didn't wait till final year before I withdrew.

For goodness sake, why should you not know your fiance(e)'s academic record until (s)he graduates. Except the guy/babe involved is equally a ne'er do well, no reasonable man/woman would want to close his/her eyes to the fiance(e)'s progress. The only exception is IF THE GIRL HAS BEEN LYING TO THE GUY ABOUT HER RESULTS. ARE WE SURE THAT WAS NOT THE CASE WITH YOUR COUSIN? THIS VERY ONE HAPPENED TO MY FRIEND.

Let me warn, guys, marriage is NOT all about love. Marriage goes well beyond love. Values, philosophy, line of thinking, likes & dislikes matter so much. When marriage advances in age, love fades. That time, the only thing that keeps the relationship moving are the values, the belief (not necessarily religion-o). Marriage is more than pulchritude. That is why the Bible even says "Be ye not Unequally yoked, " whether with unbelievers or 'boko haram' (education-haters). I can't stand you if you can't flow with me academically. THAT IS ME-O! I'm sorry, that's me.

Gbam! Beni! We r sure of victory in both matches. But World cup ticket? THAT IS IN THE HANDS OF GOD not IN THE MOUTH OF AN 'MOG'. But if it comes, IS THAT NOT WHAT WE WANT? HALLELUJAH

Does Nigeria need a deliverance or a revolution? Nothing seems to be working. Nobody believes in Nigeria. Most people including Nigerians see nothing good about Nigeria. The leaders are there turning a deaf ear to legitimate demands and needs of the people. Moneys are stolen everyday from our treasury. Wealth is most dubiously amassed. Contracts are ‘executed’ on paper. Worst still, less than 10% of contract sum is employed to do the job while the rest grows wings and disappears.

From the way things are moving, there appears to be NO LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL. Perhaps the ‘promised land’ shall be reached 50 years from now. When the wicked leaders will have all died. What pains me is that when they travel out of this country, they enjoy the amenities, the security, the tranquility and the technology put in other countries by GOD(?). None of them wants to make sacrifices to develop this country. When it comes to medical care, they travel abroad. When it comes to education, they send their children abroad because they can afford it. When it comes to security, some governors package all their family abroad. WHO THEN IS THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER OF THE STATE? IF THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER CANNOT GUARANTEE SECURITY TO HIS IMMEDIATE FAMILY IN HIS STATE, HOW CAN HE GUARANTEE THAT FOR YOU AND ME? (I am not being personal; at least I didn’t mention names, but that is the truth). The same reason they don’t care about fixing these problems, even ordinary ELECTORAL REFORM, even FREEDOM OF INFORMATION BILL.

Followership on the other hand has not impressed me. We, the led, how shown gross disloyalty even in the minutest areas. In our driving, in our civility, in our attitude and disposition, in our morals. Every day, in companies, people steal moneys: petty cash vouchers are inflated; the messenger adds money on the cost of buying candles; give a driver N2,000 to fill the tank, he buys N1,000 worth of fuel; an ordinary house-help sees an opportunity and runs away with her madam/oga’s money and belongings; give a mechanic your car and he removes the original spare part and installs the inferior type; school children cheat in all ramifications—exams, money; cultism everywhere…etc. Most of these ones are not perpetrated by those in power but those of us followers. I know what I am talking about. I have been in a position to steal like others but I have refused. I can’t because I am content with the little I have. I have severally cautioned people who do these things but at times it earns me shocking and unimaginable outcomes. You can’t believe what I am saying! Yet, we are the same people saying our leaders are bad when their sins are the same we commit at a reduced scale.

Look at ordinary sports, especially football which is the only game that we understand. Nigerians are the best & highest supporters (outside Europe) of English Premiership, Spanish La Liga, Italian Seria A and UEFA, etc. We support Arsenal, Chelsea, Man-U, FCB, Liverpool…etc like it’s our life. Nobody remembers Enyimba, Heartland, Wiki Tourist, Bayelsa Utd, Rangers. Let us not go too far. Even in the ongoing FIFA U-17, Nigerians booed Eaglets starting from while they were one goal down (The same they did to our senior National Teams). That day too, the stadium was almost empty. Recall that it took the football authorities in Nigeria to give out tickets free of charge for Nigerians to come and watch Nigeria versus Honduras match. But compare this with the passion we show for European club sides. Have Man-U or Chelsea fans in Nigeria ever booed them when they lost? Instead our Nigerians go for days mourning. Some refuse to eat. Was it not in the news last year that after the FCB – Man-U UEFA finals, a fan angrily used his bus to ram into a crowd of jubilating opponents, killing about 6 people. These ones are not done by Obasanjo or Yar’Adua or any government official but we ourselves. And that is why I still wonder if our problem is only our leaders! Did you know that most bank MDs and their top management in Nigeria buy tickets and go to watch English Premiership leagues? Did I hear you say “What a shame!”

WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR NIGERIA? IS THERE ANY HOPE? HOW? WHEN? FROM WHO? IN WHICH DIRECTION? WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?
This is a serious issue. Many developed economies of the world today started with such revolutionary brainstorming. Never beret the power of positive thinking and congregation of change-people like you and me. Of course this subject will not attract everybody. It is meant for ONLY those who have the interest of this entity called Nigeria at heart. I therefore expect sound and critical inputs.

Therefore, if you have my kind of vision for our beloved 9ja, if you are one of those who feel it is wrong to steal money whether private or public funds, if you can afford to stick your neck and make sacrifices to ensure Nigeria works (a Nigeria where Americans and Europeans can visit during Winter for Holidays), if you really mean well for this country, please, speak. I believe we can change Nigeria!

Let us also not trivialize it. Our whole lives depends on it. Whether you are within (like me), or in Diaspora, one day you shall be here, so it concerns all of us. If we are not concerned, maybe one day when kidnap are done with us at home, they would pitch a tent at our airports to kidnap returning citizens. God forbid!!!

Speak your mind. We are all on the hot seat. You can phone a friend or ask people around you for suggestions, but “YOUR TIME STARTS NOW!”

Na so!

But he knew where to put the kini abi? Where did he not put it in her mouth or in the ear?

Hey, Hey, Hey!!! Guys, let's learn civility. It's bad enough to be uncultured; it is worse to show truly that you are uncultured. Raining invectives and curses on your brother based on simple opinion mentioned is WHAT HAS KEPT NIGERIA WHERE WE ARE TODAY, FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. Let us change and begin to wear a toga worthy of commendation and emulation.

By the way, for those criticising that our players are 'agbalagba', I BET YOU, THE SAME 'AGBALGBA' U-17 WILL BEAT OUR SUPER EAGLES (THE SUPER 'AGBALAGBAS' IF THERE IS A MATCH BETWEEN THE TWO TEAMS.

In all, let us appreciate what we have. We are Nigeria, and will to be Nigerians so long as God okays it.

I was just a resounding 3 -1 victory to our dear Eaglets. Lagos was agog, fireworks (including the ones that sound like HEAVY MISSILES) even before match ended, NEPA also did their bit to warn the Referee to blow the final whistle, all roads blocked with frenzy jubiliators,

, And, what more, the Pepper soup & Beers joints made it yesterday.

I pray nobody was robbed, killed or raped yesterday because I know our Lagos.

Tell us your experience.

Below is a news item from SUN Newspaper of today, November 12, 2009.

Cases of rape of corps members are getting rampant. What should we do?



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From DESMOND MGBOH, Kano
Wednesday, November 11, 2009
Pain and anguish have continued to trail the cases of two female members of the National Youth Service Corps (NYSC), who were raped at gunpoint to a state of semi consciousness by a gang of 14 young men at their place of primary assignment in Fagge area of Kano State.

The corps members, whose identities are being kept secret by the relevant authorities, are of the Yoruba extraction, Daily Sun can confirm. One of them is a native of Lagos State while the other victim hails from Oyo State.

The brutal assault, it was gathered, took place at the home of the female corps members, which is situated at the official ‘Corpers lodge’ of Adamu Vice Secondary School, in Fagge. This lodge is located within a walking distance from the secretariat of the Fagge Local Government Council and of a similar distance from the Fagge Divisional Police Station in the heart of the state capital.

An eye-witnesse told the Daily Sun that the tragic incident, which occurred after midnight, on the November 3, 2009, had the entire 14-man gang sleeping with the ladies in turns. The raping took place after the gang had scared off the school’s gate men and the male corps members in their midst, locking up the former in a nearby female staff quarters and the latter in a small room in the compound.

Spokesman to the Nigeria Police Force, Kano State, Superintendent Baba Mohammed confirmed the ugly incident in a chat with the Daily Sun on Tuesday. He disclosed that, so far four suspects have been arrested in connection with the incident, even as he pointed out that those in the custody of the police have since denied the commission of the act.

Speaking also to the Daily Sun on Tuesday, the principal of Adamu Vice Secondary School , where the heinous act occurred Alhaji Mohammed Garba, said that although the corps members were domiciled in his quarters, they were actually engaged for their primary assignment by a nearby Women Centre , where they are teaching.

According to his account of the abuse, “On the 3th of November, 2009, when my watchmen were outside and their fellow corps member were making free calls, they were suddenly invaded by a gang of about 14 men. They asked the maiguards (watchmen) to go inside the female staff quarters and also got the male corps members locked up in one room. The female corps members were already a sleep at the time. At first, the female victims refused to the open their doors, but they were later persuaded by the watchmen and the fellow corps members, who pleaded with them to open the door and avoid being killed”.

He went further: “Later on, they opened the door. The gang first collected their money, then their handsets, their wrappers and their foodstuffs, which was in the carton, because one of them was about to travel and had arranged her things.

And thereafter, they raped all of them.
“When my maiguards (watchmen) saw what had happened, they sneaked through, jumped the window, and went out to inform the police, He said the school had so far shouldered the bills of the medication of the ill fated corps members, who were rushed, after the incident to the Murtala Hospital in the state.

Sources close to the Daily Sun revealed that the ladies had since moved out of the lodge to an undisclosed location inside Sabon Garri area, where it was speculated that they were squatting with their Yoruba relatives, many of whom felt aggrieved.

Ironically, the Fagge Local Government Chairman, Alhaji Tukur Mohammed, who is supposed to be the guardian of all the corps members posted to his domain, has demonstrated the coldest indifference to the plights of the rape victims. According to the principal, “Up to this time that I am talking to you, the Local Government Chairman has not turned up to take any responsibility for the medication of the victims. It was the school that took them to the hospital and it is the school that has been paying their bills.

The NYSC State Coordinator in Kano State, Nuhu Kwage is away for the orientation exercise in Karaye local council but his officials have been on top of the development.


Source: Sun newspaper;
http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/nov/11/national-11-11-2009-10.htm

Ok -o! Make I try now.

Vox populi, vox dei. The voice of men is the voice of God. As Nigerians at home and in diaspora are condemning this devil called OBJ, so has God condemned him to hedes.

We are watching!

These policemen are vampires, blood suckers and wicked folks. This is heartless.

We r even lucky in this case, the police did not brand the poor boy an armed robber. When those who are supposed to protect lives take them, what else do we do? Resign our fate to God of course.

Honestly, girls can be funny. My very first gal friend and I agreed that we would not have sex until we got married or at least much later. We were both teenagers then (I was 17, she was 16). I promised her marriage and we never went there. After about 8 years (then I had started working), she came to my house to pass the night (FOR THE FIRST TIME AFTER 8 YEARS OF TRUSTED, SEXLESS RELATIONSHIP) and started weeping uncontrollably. She finally told me one cock-and-bull story:

That her close friend took her to her (the friend's) cousin’s place. The guy gave both of them 2 bottles of Fanta and that she slept off after drinking it and woke up to discover that she had been deflowered. What a story! Honestly, I felt ashamed of myself for waiting for a LovePeddler for marriage. And the so-called rape didn’t happen that year-o; according to her, it happened some 3 years before she came and told me…

Often times, I wonder why girl would have a boyfriend, tell him she doesn’t want sex in their relationship until after wedding, yet she goes behind him and be swimming around. There is a case of my friend who caught his girlfriend red-handed doing it with another boy, meanwhile, she vowed she would never do that. Let me spare you all the detail.

Guys,
The poser's analysis is right. Both in his answer to the initial question he raised, and the classification of prosts. I think he also made it clear that HE HAS NOT SLEPT WITH ANY PROSTITUTE IN HIS LIFE. So, I felt we should be more interested in analysing the points he raised as to why MEN PREFER PROSTS than attack his line of thought.


If I may digress a little, I did a writeup in the early 2000s where I categorised prostitutes and these are the tpyes:

1. CORPORATE PROSTITUTE (These babes in Banks and corporate world etc)
2. ACADEMIC PROST (undergraduates & higher institutions)
3. POLITICAL (those women in politics; you need to know what they do there!!!!)
4. HISTRIONIC (The so-much talked about Sex-for-Role in Nollywood)
5. COMMERCIAL (the ones you call prostitutes)
6. RELIGIOUS (look well, there are several scandals in the churches & mosques today, in Nigeria and outside)
7. SPORTING/ATHLETIC (as the name implies)
8. VILLAGE PROSTITUTE (the "Mgbeke's", doing theirs in the village, under platain and palm trees
9. NYMPHOS (they can sleep with anything, including dogs, goats, cows; I am not even talking about intimacy gadgets now). I guess you heard the story of a goat that gave birth to something that looked like a human being; it was in the news, and on newspapers too.

An lots more,

The other thing I may add is that BOTH MEN AND WOMEN may fall in these categories.


Anyway, I have aired my views. Whether you like what I say or NOT, that is my opinion, and we should be mature enough to respect people's opinions; that is civility!