That's exactly what I said, mode was not making music, you see we all know rap and diss are couples, but rap and dance hall aren't enemies
If mode got angry or pissed cos rugged was cashing out and he was not cos he was/is lyrically heavier than rugged then he should have put his lyrics to work by laying it on some damn d.ope beats... Rap is not all about diss
And u are really wrong about MI not doing bang music, altho not like a real afro pop dance buh some of MI tracks were really hot and you could shake to it, MI is rhythmic, rugged is rhythmic buh mode is not. That's simple Eminem is only appealing to you because you understand rap music, eminem does rap and music together, there's a difference
On AQ and local rappers, AQ said his reply was not really a diss, yeah buh he single handedly criticised the line where they said punchlines rappers can't cash out, I totally support AQ there... I still believe a punchline rapper can make it, or simply put an english rapper can cash out big time in the industry, Look at the way things are now, a lot of indigenous rappers are springing out of nowhere, I can count about 5-7 yoruba rappers.. Soon enough market will be bad for them and they'll run back to english rap and punchline rap...
In terms of financial status, we both know selling cds don't work anymore, it's all about shows and endorsement, but tell me who wants to invite a rapper to a show to come and diss another rapper?
isn't rap 's soul purpose to pass a message across (whatever type of message) on a beat with a steady flow and rhythmical rhymes?
RHYTHMICALLY APPLIED POETRY
if we should consider the origin of rap, we won't actually have rap again! rap was a music of the oppressed against an oppressing government.
and rap evolved from spoken words and literature. you can always do what you like with it
But in our society, people frown against thinking out of the box
WHAT IS DOP.E IN HIP-HOP?
there is no standard definition for an art sir
all they made us realize in d song is that; the streets can't relate with punchlines much when they can enjoy a feel of something more street-appealing
If you say ruggedman is a focal point, how come mode nine had issues with him? and viceversa? at least rugged spits in English...
MAKE RAP MUSIC, DON'T JUST MAKE RAP
btw you shouldn't have quoted all I wrote
and ur stage name WON'T appeal to many (you a fan of boondocks?). nobody will want to give a thug (names get abbreviated you know) a listening ear I.M.O
AND RAP IS RAP SIR
I replied, later I couldn't find it but here is a screenshot of my reply
lanaVello1: Is is until he comes to ask me for money before you know that he's not making as much money as his music deserves?
Modenine is not making MUSIC, that's why.. His songs are for a particular group which is a group of fans of hardcore rap, let him do a club banger with rap and see how much he'll make Nigerians always want to dance, sing stale diss music and dance to it alone.. I hope u understand me
funmo: LOCAL LOCAL RAPPERS VERSUS LOCAL INTERNATIONAL RAPPERS
N.B/DISCLAIMER: I am unwell with the pen!!! Thanks
The debate of how rap should be done in Nigeria will only end the moment the trumpet sounds. Hallelujah!!! But before that time comes, I can also join in the cross-fire. If I "die" whilst at it, may my soul "rip". (free multisyllables right there). When the local rapper track dropped, I felt it was a cool song. I'm saying in terms of; production-shout out to tyrone; lyrical content; melody and concept. We have different ways of interpreting everything, so I get it when my opinion seems illogically different from others. I've heard reminisce from the "one-chance" and "bachelor" tracks' days. When he was hundred percent English (international). When he turned Alaga Ibile too (local), I was by my phone listening to him drop them bars. So, I relate to the local rappers track hundred percent. I heard of how Ola used to spit in the Lingua Franca back in the days, and how the lords of Ajasas, 2phats, Id cabasas et al made him see why it might/won't work for him. Yeah! They were right, who wants to listen to Olamide rap in English?!!! I don't know much about Phyno, as I am yet to learn the Ibo language, but no doubt he was on concept on the "infamous" track. Believe me, in my opinion, I feel these guys are right. Punchline o jawo mo (hardcore doesn't sell, or big bros mode9!!! does it?). Isn't that stale news? What's the fuss about? Even mode9 went on a commercial break. Terry is now comfortably doing commercial tracks (maybe not comfortably). Truth is the Nigerian music scene is paying more attention to these indigenous rappers more. Before you curse my dad and mum out, just so you know, I listen to a lot of Nigerian hardcore raps. (do I have to do this?) I've 80% mode9's body of works, both free and bought. Rapman, Godwon, O.D, Pherro, who else does much of hardcore? I've them all, I bump them. But truth is, they aren't 100% relateable with to the average Nigerian rap fan.
I'm not of the opinion that rap has a blueprint. Abeg!!! we don't speak English all the time. When I saw the AQ stuff, I could only smile. I've known A.Q since like 2005. A decade. I had his mixtape uncle Jatt hosted, and I recently downloaded son of John. Q is all punchlines. Dope as they come. So, him replying wasn't a surprise. It's him. He is never a coward and will go any length to defend what he represents (make una help me clap for am now...) . His international rappers track wasn't a diss, I see it as someone holding his ground. No qualms. Only that we fans of rap, rap heads and rappers all differ on what the rap culture is in Nigeria. Some say you shouldn't rap in vernacular, others say rapping in phonetics isn't the way to go about it. TO ME, RAP IS RAP. It could be dope to you, and it sounds wack to me, but it is still rap. Nobody should question if I am a fan of punchline or not. I think rap is more than punchlining. I've heard people say you must do punchlines to be regarded as dope. Hold up, let me call nasty Nas ( I swear you don't know what I mean(t) here). Run dmc, scarface et al never punchlined. Na because some of us no sabi literature self. Puns, metaphors, similes and other elements don't make up a whole great literary work. The best rap songs aren't necessarily the ones laced with punchlines all over the place. I mean, what is the point of the punchline if the music is actually missing.
See, chill, I love punchlines. I really do. But when songs lack depth (of whatever concept they are based on), punchlines won't amount to shi!!! The debate of if we have a rap culture in Nigeria is always kinda unclear. What is a culture if it is never made understandable to the people it is meant to be shared with? At least some few folks have been able to make money from hardcore and softcore rap, don't be in the middle. Do hardcore and let us feel the music in this genre you so much exalt. Or just dumb it down for us and let's bump our heads and yanshes to rap music. Either way, make a point every time you spit a bar, and let people relate. And by people, I mean everybody that loves music. If you do good music, irrespective of the genre, you will be rewarded. Rap music will just always be controversial, at times for no reason except the "hip-hop" reason. But for all its worth, rap music has come to stay in Nigeria. It is up to you to define what you think rap music then is.
@adefunmiloye is a writer, essayist, comedian, m.c and rapper(with no single single). He writes from the comfort of his water-bed in far away Ijebu-Ode, Ogun State.
RAP IS NOT RAP BRO, CONSIDERING THE ORIGIN OF RAP, BUT THEN SINCE MONEY MAKING AND CHOICE OF NIGERIANS HAS BEEN CALLED INTO QUESTION, I BELIEVE MUSIC, HOPE U UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN, MUSIC MUST BE MADE.......... I CAN STILL RAP IN ENGLISH AND APPEAL TO THE NIGERIA RAP FANS, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH U DO MUSIC, RUGGEDMAN DID IT...... WATCH OUT FOR THUGNIFICENT
lanaVello1: @op,I think you got it all wrong,what those guys were saying is punchlines and wordplay is of no monetary advantage i.e dropping dop€ lines no dey bring money again and truly strictly punchlines aint profitable anymore. for better explanation,ask modenine!!
I'm sorry but I need to ask u this qtn, has modenine been to ur house to beg for food? Do u know the ride he cruises? I think everything is down to how nigerians understand rap, just few nigerians really understand what rap music is all about... Simple
buccal: Rappers for you.they lie a lot and say they are what they are not.they diss too.part of rapping.imagine an upcoming rapper singing in the studio...I gat loads of money,i got range in my car park.when he hasn't even completed the money to book a session.
Not all rappers are like that, the art of rap I know and follow is 'say what's real'....... Like I wanna be rich someday, i'll get a piece to shoot ur ass down, Jah bless ma hustle.. You dig? Well we are different, some may lie
nhop: Are you young, have a flare for entertainment, ready to challenge the norm and can express his/her words through writing? If yes, kindly drop your email address. P:S You must have a laptop and access to the internet. This is a paid gig
Mane4Gh: STAGE NAME WITHELD- Am a Ghanaian upcoming Artiste looking to build that African connection from the ground up.If you out there in naija and you understand how the game works,Maybe we can hop on something together......Get in touch.Text me on whatsapp (+233570482834)..A beg,no ask me which genre I belong to,Cos you will die of hunger doing less than three Genres down here.. SERIOUS UNDERGROUND CATS ONLY
fosterkid: Dnt knw whether d op is being truthful but from my findings the lady in question is his sister and her name is oluwatoyin falayi on facebook, she is a teacher.The op jst got married last month and his name is oladele olawale ayeni though one or two things correlate but im still skeptical, you guys can investigate forward but I dnt think it is a scam but d op and his wife look like they can raise that amount conveniently
Look like they can afford it? That's the glory of God my brother, I bet u didn't see their pockets, besides op said he has spent a lot before coming here in one of his posts.....
kowema: Taa!!.... Dont interupt my sleep again o. I called you names and not the Mods.... You are the defaulter and my business lies with you and not the Mods OK....
To whoever has the power to send people for thorough verification ( Meanwhile , Thanks @ Miss/Mrs Dominique for taking out the time in this busy world called Lagos, That was really Nice of you ) I am willing to go but with a team. For Thorough and diverse judgement.....You can contact me via mail....Pls , only people vested with power cus i dnt even trust many things in this thread again... I have a heart but I also got a head.....
How come ur personal text is : live ur life knowing that u are just an ordinary dust. Ur next breath is not guaranteed My guess is u are one of those hypocrites we have around.....smh for u tho
tit: you avoid the question. who gave obasanjo the powers to acquit buhari of a criminal indictment which could have given him more than the 100 years imprisonment he gave to Ambrose Alli? Is that how you want your Nigeria to be run? if you steal and the two of us are padi padi, i clear you. then you will bring some for me in the night! is that how you do it?
It's funny how you see things tho, when sanusi exposed jonathan's government of stealing $20 billion, he was suspended by the president When jonathan's loyalists were linked with boko haram, he decided not to investigate the cases An audio track was released recently, about obanikoro, omisore, fayose all jonathan's loyalists of how they rigged the ekiti election, jonathan said he will not investigate it
The question is, who is jonathan ? Why is he covering up his people who are supposed to be serving jail terms for making Nigerians suffer
mrrock: That's exactly what I wanted you to say. That Buhari denied knowing her own daughter and son. Now, you can see for yourself how evil such a man portend.
The Aisha Buhari is the daughter of Goodluck Jonathan. Hope that makes you feel fine. Goodbye.
Seriously u are very funny, do u think the US is like Nigeria?? Are u aware atiku was invited for an investigation in the US when he was vice president?? If buhari was directly involved as u have claimed, do u think the US wouldn't have published his name? Or was buhari investigated? These are blind accusations, just quit it.. Goodbye as u have said
If there is anything I'm tired of, it's the non ability of nigerians to reason, e.g 1. let's assume a father has a child and the child went to rob a bank.. Who will the security operatives arrest?? Pls answer ooo 2. Do u know how many people are answering the name buhari? 3. Buhari denied knowing the aisha in question, yes or no? 4. Are ur parents responsible for ur paroles and runs ? Pls find something else to do, libeling doesn't fit u
tit: thank you. Can you not see it in black and white that Buhari was indicted by an investigation? If a thief steals and gives the money to his girl friend will you leave the thief because he did not eat the money alone? who is obasanjo to clear buhari of corruption charges? is obasanjo a court or judge? who gave him the powers to acquit accused persons? is that not corruption and interference with the criminal process? both obasanjo and buhari should serve twenty years for obstructing justice!
What u have against buhari is surely personal, mrs tit I'm not seeing your point her.. Probably u are advocating for jonathan who has been alleged of stealing over 30trillion naira... I think nigerians should face the issues at hand and not what happend 30years ago... Read the news very well, buhari did not steal any money. Thanks
mrrock: I was of the impression you was genuinely needing information. These information are public knowledge. Help yourself with google. Search for Buhari's daughter schooling in London, search for Buhari's wife donation to Adamawa.
As for Buhari's election expenses, perhaps you've been the one financing his campaign cost for the past elections he lost. For the upcoming one that he'll soon lose, APC have been shouldering the cost to a great extent.
so since u know APC have been shouldering the cost why are u typing trash here? What's your real point? Let me ask you few questions, 1. Does buhari have a private jet ?? 2. Does he have like 5 houses? 3. When does schooling in london became a multi billion project ? I have friends studying in LONDON, US and UKRAINE 4. Buhari being poor doesn't mean he is poor like normal poverty, get it straight man, atleast he is poor compared to the likes of babangida, obasanjo, goodluck, ibori etc 5. Can u Post a link of a video where buhari said with his mouth that he is poor? 6. Why have u decided to libel buhari? Religious reasons? Because itz not as if u have evidences against him, u have been overdependent on google 7. With all due respect, can u pls QUIT THE SSHIT ?
tit: i have already posted the link. google "obasanjo clears buhari".
the biggest thieves in nigeria are obasanjo and buhari! ibb, abdulsalami and abacha are learners!
obasanjo and buhari stole nigeria's 2.8 billin dollars in 1975. they shared the money! buhari went into a similar racket with abacha in ptf. obasanjo knows the deal naw and confronted buhari! buhari share the money with obasanjo!
that is why buhari say abacha is not a thief!
I understand the fact that english might be hard for u miss/mrs tit, this does not imply. That they shared the money, buhari was CLEARED back then and obasanjo did it again...
tit: Buhari was found quilty, my friend. stop misleading people. Obasanjo took some of the missing 25billion naira and closed the case. Obasanjo said so himself last month.
Post the link where obasanjo said so, buhari was found not guilty till tomorrow, except u have proofs than telling me obasanjo took some of the money
Ibime: As I always say, count your drum snares. 4 drum snares make 1 bar so aim to finish your end rhymes on the 4th drum snare. Thís should prevent any fall offs in flow.
Snoop Dogg showed best the process of counting bars:
1 to the 2 to the 3 to the 4/ Snoop Döggy Dog and Dr Dre is at the door/
Your 1,2,3,4 makes your bar. End all your rhymes on the 4.
One you follow thís pattern, natural progression should take it's course. Also listen to emcees who use thís repetitive formulaic pattern like AZ, Kool G Rap, Masta Ace etc.
When you've mastered that, you can start in-rhymes.
With in-rhymes you could look for the 2nd and 8th drum snare.
1,2/ 3,4/ 5,6/ 7,8/
I'm sleek with the rhymes/ so round of applause/ You'll hear the sound of the fours/ or I'm squeezing the nine/
That's a 2,8 combo. Rhymes and nine finish on 2 and 8 etc etc.
Cool, the 1,2,3,4 also makes a line too.. Had a tough time explaining to a nigga, he thinks two lines makes a bar.... He wasn't ready to know the fundamental beat counts is 4 The in-rhyme thing is cool..... This is helpful...
chernest2002: Buhari over throw shagari because the 2.8 billion naira oil money was traced in his foreign bank account and he became sleepless until he over threw the old democrat,now he is telling uninformed that he is poor,buhari is a criminal,a liar,fanatic,illiterate,human rights abuser,power hungry old man,God will never allow him in with his criminals like tinubu,amaechi,okorocha,liar Mohammed,obj and others like them.
We are not all illiterates, after the money was alleged missing, buhari was tried and found not guilty, stop misleading people...... Don't breed ignorance like the one u have in you... Try again another time
Did buhari say to you that he is a PEASANT? SOME Nigerians have been gullible since 1960......... Buhari never mentioned that he is poor, he just said he has only one house, no private jets... You fools just come with shyts about that man
Rap Battles › Re: NL Rap Battles chatroom by Akin1212(m): 12:36pm On Feb 21, 2015
? And how can this be an experiment ? AWESOME
