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Christianity Etc › Re: Points Christians Should Note About The So Called Atheists Here. by akintom(m): 7:07am On Oct 19, 2016

honourhim:
Again if you claim that statement is wrong then it either means you are being hypocritical about it or you are new in this religion section or you sincerely lack understanding of my submission.

Do you know why it's difficult for you religious folks to understand or believe what atheists teach you?

Religious beliefs has created cognitive dissonance in you folk's thoughts processes (i meant no insult, but a neuroscientific fact. You can check that out). The harmful effect of this psychological slant is that, you guys can hold conflicting thoughts and still think you are consistent.

Am humanist (go check up Humanism first), i can confirm to you that your lies don't apply 0.000%.

It's a sign of irrationality for you to claim without proofs, that a group of people who don't subscribe to spirit and its worship, will now be congregating in similitude of your religious rituals.

I told you earlier, you're the very first victim of what you warned your fellows of. In that you have dabbled into what you have both deficient and confused knowledge about.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Points Christians Should Note About The So Called Atheists Here. by akintom(m): 6:42am On Oct 19, 2016

devilmaycry:
[b]Oga seun and other Athiests... Quick questions please...if u believe humans evolved from apes...who then creatd these animals ?..you believe in big bang theory....yes...but have u for once reasoned that something just form outta no where ?according to what most of you hold as creation :Our universe is thought to have
begun as an infinitesimally small, infinitely hot,
infinitely dense, something - a singularity....now tell me
Where did it come from?you don't know. Why
did it appear? You don't know but then its said that
After its initial appearance, it apparently
inflated (the "Big Bang", expanded and cooled,
going from very, very small and very, very hot,
to the size and temperature of our current
universe. It continues to expand and cool to this
day and we are inside of it,now what do u make outta this ?? .....okay..most of ya"ll will ask..who then created God. when I was little I did ask myself that question so many times,why ? Because I have never had an encounter with God but I later came to realise that GoD is divine,there aint no measure to his existence!!
[/b]

Your question has exhaustively been answered by different scientists, in each of science specialty that propounded the different theories you referred to.

Religious folks either lack the capability to understand science or deliberately choose to be twisty around science, as it concerns religious beliefs.

Science position on Religion (belief in the existence of God(s) and his claims) -

scientists affirmed, nothing is or can be known to exist in human experience, except it's first established by OVERWHELMING EMPIRICAL EVIDENCES that MUST have PASS the TEST of VERIFICATION and REPRODUCIBILITY.

Since ALL the claims of religion have not pass this test, atheists can RELATE with religion.

Christianity Etc › Re: Points Christians Should Note About The So Called Atheists Here. by akintom(m): 11:17pm On Oct 18, 2016

honourhim:
Going through your response, it appears you lack understanding of my submissions. I advice that you go through it again, calmly this time around, so as to get it clearer. Some other people have gotten the message as you can see. Cheers.

"These group of individuals have a gathering point just like the religious people, they preach against God just as we preach the goodness of God, they testify against God just as we testify God's goodness"

The above is your exact words unedited.
You're so soon becoming a victim of the panicky counsel you just gave your fellows.

May i help you add this to your list of commandments....

*when you decide to engage atheist, avoid being twisty and dodgy, you get strangled that way.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Points Christians Should Note About The So Called Atheists Here. by akintom(m): 11:05pm On Oct 18, 2016

honourhim:
Dear brethren in Christ,

we all know that atheism simply means unbelief in God. Taking a critical look at the activities of certain individuals in this forum who parade themselves as atheists, it is obvious that they actually can be referred to as anti-religion cult. These group of individuals have a gathering point just like the religious people, they preach against God just as we preach the goodness of God, they testify against God just as we testify God's goodness. They have their leaders who they chorus yes to everything they say just as religious people do.
The irony of it is that these same people are the ones that will turn around to condemn the activities of christians when they too are replicating same in their circle. In no distant time we will see these people replicating all the practices of christianity in their own way.
It is obvious that the attitude of these people falls appropriately into that of anti-religion cult than atheism. I therefore urge you my brethren to henceforth see them as anti-religion cult rather than atheists. Referring to them as atheists will be an insult to those of them out there who are actually living the true definition of atheism.

In the light of the above written, I encourage you all

1. To remain steadfast in God, be prayerful, preach the word and as much as possible represent Christ well.
2. Respond to any of their posts or threads which you have answers to. The ones you dont have answers to simply keep out of it or say- "I dont know". No human has answers to every question in this life.
3. Dont go into unnecessary argument where you cant defend your stand well enough. When you dabble into what you cant defend well you end up making a fool of yourself.
4. Dont jump into any thread opened by these cult members. First of all weigh their thread whether its worth giving attention to, if its not pls dump the thread and move ahead. Time is of essence in life, except you are an idle civilian whose time is lying idle.

A vivid feature of the grand contraption that religion is, is the ever increasing and never ending fractionalization of the religious groups.

Preacher man, now that you are ignorantly ascribing prefix of cult. Are you aware that the pentecostal faction calls the Catholic, jehovah's witnesses, seventh day adventists, c&s etc OCCULTIC FACTIONS of same Christian group?
5.. Where you want to quote bible pls try and quote the one that properly fit into the discussion, dont just throw up anything you like and start panel beating it to fit into your response.
6. When they mention bad practices seen amongst christians pls dont go defending blindly when you know those things are actually happening rather you can cut down their exaggerations where it arises.

7. Dont be fooled that atheists or their anti-religion counterparts here are more intelligent than religious people. Unbelief in God doesnt translate to being more intelligent in life, it doesnt translate to being more wealthy, it doesnt translate to being more excellent in academics, it doesnt translate to having the best marriage, it doesnt translate to employment opportunities, it doesnt translate to success in life. Its just unbelief in God and nothing more. Religious people have been excelling wonderfully in every sphere of life so for someone to parade himself as a higher human simply because he doesnt believe in God is a height of foolishness. Dont fall for it pls.

God's blessings to you all.

Christianity Etc › Re: Points Christians Should Note About The So Called Atheists Here. by akintom(m): 10:47pm On Oct 18, 2016

honourhim:
Dear brethren in Christ,

we all know that atheism simply means unbelief in God. Taking a critical look at the activities of certain individuals in this forum who parade themselves as atheists, it is obvious that they actually can be referred to as anti-religion cult. These group of individuals have a gathering point just like the religious people, they preach against God just as we preach the goodness of God, they testify against God just as we testify God's goodness. They have their leaders who they chorus yes to everything they say just as religious people do.
The irony of it is that these same people are the ones that will turn around to condemn the activities of christians when they too are replicating same in their circle. In no distant time we will see these people replicating all the practices of christianity in their own way.
It is obvious that the attitude of these people falls appropriately into that of anti-religion cult than atheism. I therefore urge you my brethren to henceforth see them as anti-religion cult rather than atheists. Referring to them as atheists will be an insult to those of them out there who are actually living the true definition of atheism.

In the light of the above written, I encourage you all

1. To remain steadfast in God, be prayerful, preach the word and as much as possible represent Christ well.
2. Respond to any of their posts or threads which you have answers to. The ones you dont have answers to simply keep out of it or say- "I dont know". No human has answers to every question in this life.
3. Dont go into unnecessary argument where you cant defend your stand well enough. When you dabble into what you cant defend well you end up making a fool of yourself.
4. Dont jump into any thread opened by these cult members. First of all weigh their thread whether its worth giving attention to, if its not pls dump the thread and move ahead. Time is of essence in life, except you are an idle civilian whose time is lying idle.
5.. Where you want to quote bible pls try and quote the one that properly fit into the discussion, dont just throw up anything you like and start panel beating it to fit into your response.
6. When they mention bad practices seen amongst christians pls dont go defending blindly when you know those things are actually happening rather you can cut down their exaggerations where it arises.

7. Dont be fooled that atheists or their anti-religion counterparts here are more intelligent than religious people. Unbelief in God doesnt translate to being more intelligent in life, it doesnt translate to being more wealthy, it doesnt translate to being more excellent in academics, it doesnt translate to having the best marriage, it doesnt translate to employment opportunities, it doesnt translate to success in life. Its just unbelief in God and nothing more. Religious people have been excelling wonderfully in every sphere of life so for someone to parade himself as a higher human simply because he doesnt believe in God is a height of foolishness. Dont fall for it pls.

God's blessings to you all.

From this painstakingly written piece of yours, it's obvious that the writings, nature of debate and arguments of atheists/humanists on this platform have been giving you a real and consequential concerns.

That established, i however noted some unfounded suspicions, disregard for your Bible and outright lies.

Your Bible encourages you to investigate matters properly, and uphold that which is true (findings supported by evidence). In disobedience to your Bible, you went on alleging some gathering of atheists in some places and observing methods of worship similar to church rituals.

Can you present a name of one leader?, can you give address of where they gather to do all that you claim?.

Well, am not surprised at your panicky conclusions, it's of the nature, character and traditions of folks that are mentally driven by a badly written and ridiculously fictitious book - Bible.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Atheist: by akintom(m): 10:06pm On Oct 18, 2016

Ahmadgani:
Can a nigerian atheist become a president, governor or even a legislator?

Yes, an atheist can contest election into any political post in Nigeria. Atheists don't normally go around ( like preachers) telling people to change and become atheists. To an average atheist, religion is private and personal.

Atheist will not normally bring up religious discussions, until he's irritated by religious absurdity.

You only come across atheists on platforms like this, and through their writings.

If the issue of religion comes up during campaign, atheists are appropriately intelligent enough to handle that.

If yes, how can he or she be sworn into office putting into consideration the procedure of swearing in of public office holders in nigeria. They are meant to carry the bible or the quran while swearing.

The constitution is recognized as an oath symbol.

How do nigerian atheist say the national pledge and the second stanza of the national anthem?
election
"SO HELP ME GOD" "OH GOD OF CREATION"

Christianity Etc › Re: God's Claimed Creation Lacks INTELLIGENT DESIGN! by akintom(op): 6:18pm On Oct 18, 2016

RabbaRabbi:
lol... grammar presido

so you think with all this trash you're spewing up and down that's were it lies?

Lest I forget, am also a lexicographer. So using vocabs on me don't move me an inc... Yeah.

Am not mesmerized by the way you atheist go about talking mumbo-jumbo and a sort of jargons.

I don't engage in e-wars, but your type of reasoning got me immensely irritating. When it comes to logical thinking, you all are conals... Yeah. Your parading on nairaland has become an unwanted razzmatazz.

Dude, I don't need to go further...

Anyway, gracias.

Do you know how it's said in game? I will tell you.
You see, when a rat gets trapped, it rabble.

I posted, you obviously don't have any intelligent contributions to make, rather than keep quiet, you started ranting and throwing tantrums like bereaved toddler.

Christianity Etc › Re: God's Claimed Creation Lacks INTELLIGENT DESIGN! by akintom(op): 5:36pm On Oct 18, 2016

RabbaRabbi:
bruh, are you okay... so they didn't teach you in school how to punctuate?

Pratically evidenced koooo? go back and read obi goes to school, at least, you gonna learn one or two things. Thanks

Your type was actually captured within the reach of the expected impact of my writing.

As it is now, your recovery will definitely need a close to lethal dose of antidepressants.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 5:30pm On Oct 18, 2016

promise101:
Since you became an atheist, name one good you have done to all humanity. Name, JUST ONE! One is enough!! I am not saying that you should start naming atheists, just tell me one single good YOU HAVE DONE TO ALL HUMANITY, since you became an atheist.

If you can't answer the above, then answer this.
What good can any atheist do, that a theist cannot do and do it better?

Hello promise101,
Kindly forgive my uninvited input, in case it offend you.

I particularly find your emotional connection with religious matter, a curious one.

May i know please, as far as the demystifying of religion by atheists is concerned, how is God winning?

Less I forget, I am yet to see an atheistic motherless baby in area. Until then, atheism is a gross threat to human extinction. But guess what? God has alr
eady won!!

Christianity Etc › Re: God's Claimed Creation Lacks INTELLIGENT DESIGN! by akintom(op): 12:09pm On Oct 18, 2016

RabbaRabbi:
for your mind, you don make sense abi...

Please do me this favour...

Will you

Geeeeeerrrrrraaaarrrrrraaaherrree.

Always on the loose to create dumb and bullshit threads.

Absolute balderdash...

You have practically evidenced the degree of mental deficits of the children of an unintelligent God.

Christianity Etc › Re: God's Claimed Creation Lacks INTELLIGENT DESIGN! by akintom(op): 12:07pm On Oct 18, 2016

najib632:
Please answer this question, Are you poor?

I don't get your question.

Christianity Etc › God's Claimed Creation Lacks INTELLIGENT DESIGN! by akintom(op): 9:25am On Oct 18, 2016

Intelligence has been defined in many different ways including as one's capacity for logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, planning, creativity and problem solving.

In the order of intelligent sense of useful and beneficial importance, human and salamander don't come close.

But the acclaimed God of "intelligent design" gave the capacity to regenerate lost limbs and some vital organs to salamander, and lack of such such capacity to human.

And to further spread this foolery, God's children claimed their God can do anything, till today, their father has not been able to grow back amputated human leg.

What an intelligent God in absurd reverse!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 11:54pm On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
I wonder if 98 % of the world as u claim were to really be schizophrenic as u claim. And i guess u r among the sane 2%, i really imagine what the world civilization will be like if ur claim also
On the contrary u may actually be among the schizophrenic 2% having classic delusions of grandeur that u r among the privileged 2% who believe there is no God who created the universe.
Food for ur thought my brother,
Think

Why are you so twisty?

My use of words that relate to schizophrenic is in response to your claim that many people are experiencing God without letter.

Where did you get 98%? I guess it's your mischievous insertion or act of falsehood that is traditional to you religious folks.

If by your claim that "many people are experiencing God without letter", you mean to claim that your Christianity is attracting more adherents. You're wholly fictitiously, ignorantly and wrongly informed.

All you need to do now is to just type on Google "rate of religious beliefs rejection". You'll then know for fact the rate at which religious beliefs are been unsubscribed.

Since you can't discuss your Bible, you certainly don't deserve any identified recognition.

When you're ready to show me your God through your Bible, I'll respond.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 7:31pm On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
Hehehe, sorry and i will say it again,
U misinterpreted the "claims".
And sorry, many people have experienced God beyond what is written in letters.
Pple like u attempt to pass a message, but u mess it up by generalizing too much

Does the fact that so many people are increasingly becoming mentally challenged, now make the world view of the schizophrenic a desirable one?

I said it before that the the strong feelings (beliefs) of a person can create a vivid images and concepts in their both conscious and subconscious experience, through the neural connection of the cognitive, memory and emotion neurons.

These vivid images and concepts can crystalize into motion in their dreams and trance (pls know that trance can now be stimulated in the scientific lab now).

The above is the neuroscientific basis for what you religious folks called "experiencing God beyond letter"

If only you know the imaginative capacity of human brain, then you will understand that the effort at creating God from human brain is an elementary level exercise.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 6:22pm On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
Welcome to the med world, na we we.
I dont deceive myself. U can only but speak for urself, trust me.

And Yes sorry. U misinterpreted scripture as well, U made assumptions. U know that.

I have followed up in this one sided (mine) engagement for one reason that is far from you as a person. But because of the other persons that are reading.

My purpose of writing is to bring as many as possible to that level of consciousness where they wake up to the need to embrace rationality as pathway by which they make life choices.

The irrationality on which religious beliefs are built is in all ramifications injurious and inimical to the good of humanity.

You religious folks don't know God beyond what your Bible says he is. And based on the claims your God made in that same Bible, i have found those God's claims as absolute lies.

I have given you one that you have not been able to defend.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 3:35pm On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
I am still waiting for the name of ur "scientists" and their books since morning.
But u only seem to be blabbing from ur misinterpretations of the bible.
Nothing else, sorry to say.

The emasculation of your mind by religious beliefs from your days in the university seems not to have left you.
Otherwise you would have known that, there many fields of science.

Since am not like you religious folks who make claims not based on authoritative knowledge, i speak based on area of authority am schooled in.

I belong to the medical/neuroscience field. Based on my knowledge in these areas, am at home with how your mind works. Even though you ignorantly and delusionary think you're a trichotomous being.

Because i equally practiced Christian faith for over 20 years, i know your degree of limitations and self deceptions.

If you were up to the task of engaging me, you don't need this you puerile deflections, you would have just point out how i misinterpreted your Bible.
Is the badly fictitious tale of Noah's ark a misinterpretation ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 3:02pm On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
So is this what u call evidence that "Gods dont exist"?

Abeg, please dont continue.
B4 u kill somborri

Because you are limited in knowledge and reasons, you gloatingly think you're making sense. But i will not indulge you.

Based on logical and derivative evidence, the falsehood of the Noah's ark (in the light of empirical assessment), that didn't even measure up to fictional event, but the measurements were dictated by your God to Noah.

If you believe that your Bible that introduced God to you is literarily true, but the account of Noah's ark is an impossibility, therefore your God can't be true (don't exist). At best, he's ridiculous fictional God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 2:19pm On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
Pls i know what an evidence is.
Go ahead and show scientists that proved "non existence of Gods" and tell us the "books" they used.
Simpu

Be my guest.

If you believe that the bible is literarily true, then you must believe the account of Noah and the ark.

Pls consider the following carefully:

Noah's ark measurements;
Length - 134cm
Width - 22.25m
Height - 13.1m
= 3,9089.7sqm

3,000,000 species on earth (low estimate by scientists) ×2 of each one + Noah's family of 4 = 6,000,004.

3,9089.7÷ 6,000,004 = 0.0065 = 6.5sqmm of space to roam.

This 6.5sqmm is like a dot of your pen that can't be visible to your naked eyes.

So, how TRUE is the Noah's ark? Since no physical animal can be contained in a space less than a dot of pen?

Now, if you believe that the bible is LITERARILY TRUE, how do explain this?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 12:33pm On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
O boy u sound funny. Dont let pple come and laugh at u o!

So u call these evidences?

Please mention one one scientist that proved the "non existence of Gods" and which book he used?

At this point, i would have ignored you all together, because you now appear to me, to be someone who is both infantile and mischievous in thinking and character.
Otherwise you would not vomit this..... "o boy u sound funny. Don't let pple come and laugh at u o".

Now, if you think you can intelligently engage me, here's my challenge to you;

Do you agree that "evidence is what establish truth"?

If you agree, i will then show you how scientists have proved with evidence the non existence of your God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 11:25am On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
And ur meme was supported by which evidence nor Intelligence?

The attached post (meme) is talking about overwhelming, yet empirical evidences, supported and corroborated by thousands of books, that irrefutably confirm the NON EXISTENCE OF GOD(S).

As against the USE of ONLY Bible that you folks (Christians) use in defending the existence of Gods. Albeit without tangible evidence.

The many books (read by scientists) is in relation SPECIFICALLY to existence of Gods, and not general knowledge of life.

The above is the intelligence and evidence.
Can you refute this?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 10:43am On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
Somebody who just blasted a meme is trying to teach me how to engage intelligently.

Issorai.

If you must dismiss my claim, you must do that based on rebuttal that is supported with evidence and intelligence.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 10:05am On Oct 17, 2016*

felixomor:
No my pikin, ur meme says otherwise

You just have to learn how to engage intelligently, especially on the issues of religious beliefs.

Am not out to sound ambiguous or insincere in my writings.
Like many theists on this platform, they either lack the attitude of courtesy or deliberately choose to be ridiculous. The only exception to this attitude is shadeyinka, who will not find it difficult to admit he "doesn't know" response.

If you must dismiss my claim, you must do that based on rebuttal that is supported with evidence and intelligence.

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Politics › Hypocrisy, The Twin Of Sentiment. by akintom(op): 9:51am On Oct 17, 2016

Hypocrisy, the twin of Sentiment
Thomas Akingbade

I projected into the minds of husbands and wives that summarily condemned PMB on his comments about his wife. I saw hypocrisy, the very twin of sentiment.

I imagined a husband who has been been gossiped to his wife as a man who gravitate towards and sting any human species that beareth bottomless and pleasurable hole, in addition to his wife. Based on this gossip, the wife has advised, begged, talked, nagged, cried (to at least consider the possibility of viral infections), prayed and fasted. So that this husband will stop this rumored habit. The husband kept telling the wife that it's gossip and no iota of truth in the allegation. No, the wife continued poking.

Now, during family meeting (not on their street oo, not market square ooo, not on Nigeria redio ooo, and certainly not on BBC hausa/English redio ooo), the wife of this man decided to freely grant a generous information to the husband's family members, without the knowledge of the husband prior to the meeting and while the husband was present at the meeting.

At the family meeting

The wife: my dear in-laws, i thank you all for this opportunity you have granted me to spill the evil and dirty deeds of my husband. My husband is such a raving digger, that digs any available holes. I have warned him, but he has refused to change. If he continues like this for the next few weeks; i will never publicly identify with him again, i will never make my hole available to him again, and all the services required of me in the kitchen, the living room and the other room will stop. Thanks for the audience.

Now, am just still imagining the multi-responses or reactions of husbands to the above case study. Also, i am now considering a deeper understanding of how wives manage a type of information (gossip).

Conclusion: there's is just a significant difference between how reasons and emotions relate with implications of attitude.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 7:02am On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
I can see i cant read the comment i am replying to?
That said atheists read books more than christians?
Or u didnt see it, before posting?
I am not surprised, how will u?

Commot there.
Mscheww

I spoke of understanding, not read.
The attached post is talking about overwhelming, yet empirical evidences, supported and corroborated by thousands of books, that irrefutably confirm the NON EXISTENCE OF GOD(S).

As against the USE of ONLY Bible that you folks use in defending the existence of Gods. Albeit without tangible evidence.

The many books is in relation SPECIFICALLY to existence of Gods, and not general knowledge of life.

Do you now understand?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 6:11am On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
Save ur empathy for urself.
Why will we be afraid when we have Jesus?
Sorry, ur logic is poor.
U r the one who lacks something yet spends more time writing.
That tells a lot.
Besides, everywhere I have been to, even in my university days, christians and religious people have always been setting the pace in knowledge and academics.

My friend, can you now see how religious mentality has rubbished the university education in Nigeria? If not because religion has a way of creating myopic and narrow mindset in the adherents, you would have seen that intelligence is independent of religious beliefs.

For a moment, try and look with rational lens, you'll see thousands of atheists who are at the top of cutting edge knowledge and academic.

You didn't even understand the attached post. For you to claim conclusion on an idea, you MUST be able to support such idea with overwhelming, verifiable and reproducible references (this is rationality and intelligence).

Christian religion starts and ends with the bible (assumptions and illusions).

Cant u see that its u atheists that dont read?
because ur comment oozes ignorance of that fact.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 5:53am On Oct 17, 2016

geoworldedu:
Could it be as a result of fear? As much as I know, Xtians are the most fearful set of people on earth. They fear that the world will end SOON. They fear rats and shout blood of Jesus. They fear just anything.

Atheists why don't you complain of witches and wizards and only Christians do, even praying DIE BY FIRE?

From the neuroscientific standpoint, any abstract thought that you have strong feelings (beliefs) about (creating a neural pathway via the cognitive, memory and emotion parts of the brain), will become your conscious and unconscious experience.

Because atheists don't have beliefs about imaginary vicious beings, it can't find expression in either their conscious or unconscious experience.

What religious folks don't know is that, their unconscious mind can transform this belief about witches into images via dreams and trance, depending on how intense they feel about it.

And this irrational beliefs about witches started from some natural phenomenon like sleep paralysis. Because religious folks don't understand it, they assumed it's some vicious spirit that wants to suffocate them in their sleep.

And it's so pathetic to see them going on prayer and fasting ignorantly because of sleep paralysis.

The reason therefore that we the humanist empathize with the religious folks.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Atheists Never Complaining Of Being Haunted By Witches, Only Xtians? by akintom(m): 5:33am On Oct 17, 2016

felixomor:
Atheists are afraid of going to hell fire, so they start to wish an afterlife doesnt exist and try to build their life upon that lie.
As a result, they come to nairaland everyday to fight with their conscience....

The theists are afraid of an ANGRY God who will dump them in hell fire because they didn't recite the poem of initiation into illusion:

I acknowledge am a sinner
That i can't save myself
I accept Jesus die for my sin
I hereby accept him as my savoir.......

Atheists are on NL and everywhere educating you folks on the evil effects of religious beliefs, based on our empathic character.

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Christianity Etc › Re: To Theists: In What Image And Likeness Of God Is Man Made? by akintom(op): 5:00pm On Oct 16, 2016

NZAGHA:
The same image he made you while you keep denying Him

rabbishhh

It does mean God has capacity and ability to deny himself.
But the question is, why will he put such image in his creation?

Christianity Etc › To Theists: In What Image And Likeness Of God Is Man Made? by akintom(op): 4:29pm On Oct 16, 2016

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Please list the image and likeness that God and man shares.
Or
In what sense is this semblance in image and likeness

Christianity Etc › Re: A Sincere Question For Theists: Where Did Evil Originate From? by akintom(m): 2:32pm On Oct 16, 2016

shadeyinka:
I don't get this

I don't agree with you on this. The theist position had always been this well before Atheism rose up to challenge the theistic position with the doctrine of "matter is everything". You may have a point iff this religious position is an afterthought by Theists.

The fact that it makes sense should give atheists some little concern

God is not a material being hence not subject to electromagnetic forces. He can't be brought!

scientifically, Human is material, having body and mind (psychosomatic). Empirically, both the body and mind can be assessed.
That's; muscles weakness and memory loss can be diagnosed.

Just as the computer code inside a CPU or HDD cannot be seen or shown

Empirically impossible! They do not fall into the class of matter to be measured. Just like some other things like our emotions of Love, Anger, Hurt which are real but empirically impossible to quantify

I can only speak within the limit of what is revealed and my understanding of such. should I ask Darwin for the definition of DNA within the limit of his book?

according to you, if nothing about religion can be empirically proved, on what basis do theist then challenge the conclusion of the atheists then?

If nothing exist, there is nothing to taste.

No problem!

Faith, Religion, Theism, Christianity are all based on Subjective Experiences. These are NOT provable empercally so, the way to know the taste of the pudding is tasting it.

Christianity Etc › Re: How To Ask And Receive From God Always by akintom(m): 9:31am On Oct 16, 2016

Pseudonymous:
It is a common thing for Christians to wonder whether God still answers prays, and if He does, why does it seem as if He answers only some people. Christians need to realise that you don’t learn how to pray by praying.

You need to find out ‘the how’, if you are to receive from God always. The disciples of Jesus realised this and asked Him to teach them to pray (Luke 11:1). God longs to answer all our prayers, that’s why He said bmphatically, “ask and it SHALL be given you”. Now, How to ask and receive.

1. Know what you want.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, what wilt thou that I should do unto thee? The blind man said unto him, Lord, that I might receive my sight–Mark 10:51 God truly knows our needs but He wants us to specifically tell Him what we want Him to do for us. The blind man didn’t ask for money, so Jesus didn’t give him money but gave him exactly what he wanted, which was his sight back.

2. What does God say about your want
Put me in remembrance: let us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified–Isaiah 43:26. God listens for His Words in pray. For you to ask and receive from God always, you need to pray God’s words. So search out what God says concerning that want or desire of yours before you pray.

3. Meditate and believe the scripture
This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success–Joshua 1:8. Meditation enables you to truly believe and act on Gods word. It makes the scriptures real to you and helps you not to doubt no matter the challenge you may be facing.

4. Come boldly
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need–Hebrews 4:16 God is your loving father, so go to Him boldly in prayers. He is not a tyrant. He actually enjoys fellowshipping with His children and loves blessing them.

5. Enter with thanksgiving and praise
Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name–Psalm 100:4. This is an important step on how to pray to receive from God always. No matter how pressing the issue may be or how much you cry, you can’t enter God’s presence without thanksgiving and praise. They are the only way to get God’s attention.

6. Ask according to God’s word
And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask anything according to his will, he heareth us–1John 5:14 For God to hear you and then answer, you need to pray in line with the scriptures you have meditated on concerning your desire. Also, you must ensure that there is nothing that will hinder your prayers, for example unforgiveness. And of course you must pray in the name of Jesus Christ

7. Believe you receive Therefore I say unto you, what things so ever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them-Mark 11:24 This may be the hard part but it is the proof of your faith. You have to believe that God has answered you even before the physical manifestation of the answer. For you to ask and receive from God always, it is “believing is seeing” and “not seeing is believing”.

8. End with thanksgiving and praise
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen–Matthew 6:13 Thanksgiving and praise at the end is also an expression of your faith that God has answered you. Always start and end with praise and thanksgiving.

9. Declare what you believe
For verily I say unto you, that whosoever shall say unto this mountain, be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith–Mark 11:23 Now, that you are through with your prayers, there is need for you to start declaring that that issue is settled. People may mock you but as you refuse to give up your confession, the same people will surely return to witness the physical manifestation of your answer.

10. Be patient and stand in faith
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise– Hebrews 10:36 Our timing sometimes is not the same with God’s timing. Therefore, there is need for us to wait patiently for our desired answer to come. Also, majority of the time, the enemy will try to stop the answer from coming. This is why you must not quit believing until you receive your answer. Remember Abraham didn’t quit believing until he received the promise (Isaac) 25 years after the promise was made to him.

Can someone ask and receive from God always? Yes, if the person knows how to pray. As you follow the above.

Preacher man,

How is this lesson different from the atheist who have the following:

* desire - what he wants

*wrote out plan on how to get the desire.

* worked on his plan(s).

*waited for maturity time.

*got his desire.

All these done without praying, reading Bible or believing in God.

Of what use then is religious needless labour?

Christianity Etc › Re: A Sincere Question For Theists: Where Did Evil Originate From? by akintom(m): 8:56am On Oct 16, 2016

shadeyinka:
You have looked at man strictly from the hardware perspective. Theists have looked at mans existence from bother the hardware and software perspective.

The mind is the center of mans intellect, will and emotion and the Hardware responsible is the Brain. However, the Brain is run by a software referee to as the Soul. As Theists, we believe that the soul lives on after death because it can function in the mans spirit body after his death.

Can you not see that this is practically hose who experience NDE are reporting.

The first natural stance of Atheists is show us the Soul? No one has ever seen the soul therefore, it doesn't exist!

However, if you use the same logic for a computer, you will see that you are wrong. If you dissect the HDD or RAM of a computer, you will not find any operating system or application program inside. A computer code is invisible and intangible just like the soul

The conclusion is still that the trichotomy theory of existential component of man, is a religious fabrication to suit the very purpose of using immaterial assumptions as the ONLY basis of explaining and defending religious claims.

On the following grounds:

*That you can't physically present the God that wrote the code.

*That you can't physically show me soul as it's different from mind.

*that you can't clearly differentiate btw "body", "soul", "mind", "spirit body" and "spirit" empirically.

There's no basis for a useful debate then. The more that you can't 100% rely on your Bible as references (pls remember your "I DON'T KNOW" ) submission.

You can engage me on other topics you know you can 100% rely on Bible as references, i will gladly be your guest.

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