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vaxx:
first of all, the concept of good and bad is abrahmic ideology or western idea .... Yoruba and other African religions don’t believe in the concept of good or bad. In fact, the concept of duality is a rare form of thought that is used mainly in the Western world. African religions operate from a different paradigm. They believe that everything is good and bad. War is good for the people who win because they get the additional resources needed for survival, but bad for the losers, who end up with nothing. Good and bad are on different sides of the same coin, and one cannot exist without the other.

A verse from ifa odu sums up karma karma concept by saying that Karma is the sum total of the consequences of all actions. This means that we cannot escape our karma. We must experience the positive and negative consequences of our actions. The Odu is a religious scripture that allows us to get feedback and guidance from a Godly force.

i will like to share ideas with you ...

CoolUsername, put it in more intelligent perspective. Read his comment here pls

CoolUsername:
There's just no such thing as karma. But, steal enough times and you'll get caught. Mess with enough people and someone will probably strike back.

@CAPSLOCKED, you brought up Hitler as case study of karma but the truth is that if you make yourself the enemy of enough countries, eventually one of them will defeat you.

You may get away with one murder but it gets exponentially harder to cover the evidence up as your body count increases.

So I won't say that what goes around comes around but if you do something that has consequences enough times then you'll probably have to face those consequences at some point.

well said bro

Paul, progenitor of Christians philosophy, admitted to the crass foolishness, that's resident in the brain of Christians.



1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Silly joke Yahweh played on Christians....

yanshDoctor:
in as much as i am not is support of this churches and their doctrine. sometimes i see your guys attacking the church as satanic agent assigned to fall down the church through propaganda. but the bad news is that your guys are only wasting your time because the churches are going on smoothly and getting bigger.

if you guys can open a church and send the good message instead that would have been better. but no you guys sit in your one room apartment typing trash disturbing the piece of the internet. keyboard worrier.

Kikikikikikiki..... Only few folks have capacity to free their mind, from manipulation of pastors. It's to these few, that the post is sent.

Let's go to your village!

The above is the advert, for a mental programming session for Christians. The pastor is gonna be telling them, how their ancestors, were evil and wicked, therefore, the reason for their problems (normal life challenges).

The fraudster is gonna give a word of "knowledge and revelation", about the existence of an old woman, who is the oldest surviving relation, as the witch that has prevented some sisters from getting married. As the reason why some couples are having infertility challenge.

If he planned to sell the dummy for hard currency, the pastor will tell the Christians, of a tree that must be cut down, of a buried charms that must be uprooted, of idol/effigy that must be burnt and a river that houses marine spirits.

But if you ask these Christians, what they go to Israel on pilgrimage to do, they failed to see their journey as tourism to ancestral spots and relics, of the Israelites.

They go to pray at certain wall, pray at tombs, fetch from river Jordan etc. They believe that through these ancient and ancestral objects, they are connecting Yahweh.

How is all these, different from tourists visit to osun osogbo? The olojo festival in ife? The brainwashed Christians can't see the sameness of tourism.

The Israelites have preserved their ancestral spots and objects, so that the gullible Christians can come pay to see them. But the ignorant pastors and bishops of Nigerian strain, will be shouting upandan, about one ancestral force and its imaginary intervention in today's experience.

If you're suffering in the city, 2018 is time to go to your village and farm, rather than believing an ignorant pastor, who lies for financial gain. You can turn that your ancestors shrine, to tourists center, and you will make more money, than living in the city, with the pastors that lives on your hard labour.

Receive sense in FSM name, ra'men

#epihanic

Maamin:
The OP is even an Atheist, confused mind if you ask me.

Thank you my brother. Well said. A carnal mind can't decipher the things of the spirit. Never.

JoeMaddog:
I don't respect people that have things handed over to them,,, most of them have never worked for anything in their life. [/b]

When you're full of sentiment and resentment, you will surely get your your thoughts blighted.

What do you mean by "most of them never work for anything"?

I suppose his certificates were handed to him, without serious academic work. According to your assumption.

You need to go understand the definition of work.

LalasticSeun:
Deep down you know it does. You just don't want to believe.

I'm a living testimony. .
I v experienced the power of prayer even when the doctors lost hope on me.

Kikikikikikiki.... What living testimony?

The illusion of karma (1)

Karma means action, work or deed; it also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect where intent and actions of an individual (cause) influence the future of that individual (effect). Good intent and good deed contribute to good karma and future happiness, while bad intent and bad deed contribute to bad karma and future suffering - Wikipedia.

A bad/evil/wicked deed, is an act that causes someone, an unjust pain and suffering. People who do wickedly, ranges from normal humans to psychopath. The normal humans, do evil, when they believe that they can't be deterred or punished.

Until the wicked is caught, and made to bear the consequences of his wickedness, there are those who believe that there's something (spiritual force, God, etc), that can bring commensurate suffering upon the wicked, in the event that he escaped justice.

The Christians believe that Yahweh, is capable of making a wicked man become miserable and restless - Isaiah 48:22 THERE IS NO PEACE, SAITH THE LORD, UNTO THE WICKED.

The Christians are deluded with imaginary wicked entities, that includes humans and spirits (a chronic case of unhealthy suspicion), this makes their case unsuitable for this piece.

But a look at the wicked Nigerian politicians, that have brought needless and unjust suffering on Nigerians, they should have been a perfect evidence of karma or Yahweh's judgment.

These politicians have peace and prosperity. They have it abundantly and are burdened with surplus, that will extend to their fourth generation.

It's an illusion, to think that there's something, that will bring the wicked to justice, other than justice system. And if any wicked man escapes justice, he suffers no lost of peace or misery, except as known with human existence, which is a matter of chance, coincidence and randomness.

A rational disposition to act of wickedness anywhere, is the responsibility of activating the justice system, which is expected to quench the wickedness, punish the wicked man, deter intended wickedness and reinforce less wicked world.

#epihanic

1 Corinthians 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

1 Corinthians 15:32 If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.

The religious folks, especially the Christians, are perfectly in denial of their membership of the animal kingdom. They do so because they don't want to confront the reality, that human life, begins and ends, just like every other lower animals.

To become more convinced of their denial, they imagined that their breath(cardiopulmonary activity) is a "spirit" and their mind(what the brain does) is a "soul". And the illusion of a conscious existence after death, wherein their spirit and soul, will fuse to become "immortal" being, soothes their irrational fear and perplexity, of what happens after death.

Leading the illusionary assurance of life after death, was Paul, who was convinced that life is miserable and worthless, if there's no life after death. The conclusion of Paul, was informed by his religious beliefs, which was formed by Jewish myths. Beyond this myths, Paul was as perplexed and ignorant, as any believer in life-after-death today.

Life has no "higher purpose". In fact, life has no purpose. To assume that life has a purpose, is to be sold on the imaginary idea, that certain designer of life exist, and gave a manual of life operation. Nothing diminishes our humanity, like a belief in God-idea, which has infected humanity with irrationality, hatred, division, violence and needless death

The only meaning of life (if you need one) that's worthwhile, is the conscious love of our humanity. We are humans, innately capable of responding to pain and pleasure. We give good meaning to life and make our existence better, when we work towards things that increases our pleasure and decreases our pain.

Life is miserable to those who wrong, hurt, harm and pain humanity, in their illusionary quest and hope to secure existence after death. While you eat and drink, remember to use the derived energy to better humanity. This will secure your pleasure.

chinex404:
its never God Will For any of his children to be in those situations u mentioned above.

what condition?

bloodofthelamb:
WHAT OF, IF I HAVE GIVING MY BELOVED SON THE DRUG AND HE REFUSED IT, EITHER BY IGNORANCE OR OUT RIGHT REJECTION?

WILL YOU STILL BLAME ME FOR HIS DEMISE?

Your analogy is defective and irrelevant.

No normal child rejects care. Even the abnormal one, is taking care of by specialist means.

Ignorance? The knowledge of care belongs to me - the father.

Embrace Reason, then you shall be cured of Yahweh delusion.

St. Matthew 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

The fabricated Jesus of Nazareth, by the Roman catholic, as presented in the Bible (the most self-conflicting fictional book), was good at basic level of manipulation.

You're called "evil", so that you can deny your innate goodness. Even when you're told that you're good without God, you will deny and resist any conviction that you're innately good.

If you're "evil", how then did you know how to be good to your children? Reading through the Matthew 7, Jesus claimed that Yahweh will do ANYTHING GOOD that you ask Yahweh.

But if i ask you if Yahweh can protect you from death, you will say yes. But if i ask you why Yahweh didn't protect Myles Munroe and his family, from the jet crash that killed them. You'll say Yahweh knows best, and all that Yahweh does is good.

Let me ask you;
* under what condition, will you allow car kill your son, if you have power to prevent it?

* will you withhold malaria drugs from your son, and allow him die of malaria?

*will you want to see your leg decay, from diabetes ulcer, when you have drugs that can prevent that?

You'll certainly not do any of the above, because you are good and capable of doing good.

Painful incidents are part of life. You can pray to Yahweh from now till you breath your last, it won't stop what is bound to happen, it won't restore blind eyes, it won't heal diabetes or hypertension.

Your skydaddy, alias Yahweh can't do you any good, because it's a sad fictional tricks on you, when you're deceived to pray, on issues that require you using your sense.

Whatever good exist, it lies within your skull. Use your head, Spiderman (Yahweh) will not rescue you from car crash, cure any disease or protect you from any danger.

May the eyes of your understanding be opened, that you may know the blessedness of rational behavior.

#epihanic

FortifiedCity:
By this time next week, I decree that that baby will be out of the hospital, hale and hearty.

Congratulations baby

With this your wish.... You can't change a thing. Wake-up from illusion.

Healing Hydrocephalus, can't be faked by Oyakhilome, Adeboye or oyedepo. Let alone you.

You're high on Yahweh weed.

OP, you're in self inflicted error and infantile misinformation. Atheism is simply a response position, to unsubstantiated claims of existence of Gods. Nothing more, nothing less.

Your caption betrays the depth of your ignorance, and a deep seated cognitive dissonance, which has brought you great anguish.

enshy:
And how does it add to you who despises God and His Works?
We don't cast our pearls before swines!
We don't meddle with jokers, we gave up comedy when we surrendered to the Lordship of Christ!!
We are no entertainers, we are believers, we are children of God, whom you hate..

Bla Bla Bla..... You gave up comedy? Kikikikikikiki.... You sound a dry comedian here, child of desert created Yahweh!

ScepticalPyrrho:
Liar. The only one and true God is Mazda.

Did you say liar? Naaaa.... You're a liarer..... The only true God is FSM.

Care for proof?

hahn:
Lol
Jehovah the god of shayo

Kikikikikikiki..... Yahweh na shayo master

PASTOR ADEBOYE KNOWETH NOT THE SCRIPTURES

Deuteronomy 14:22-26New International Version (NIV)

Tithes

22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year.

23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always.

24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away),

25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose.

26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other FERMENTED DRINK, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.

Any pastor who asked you to pay tithe and condemns drinking, handling and moderate use of alcohol is a thief!

Originakalokalo:
Worrying is different from Planning.

You Plan before embarking on any endeavor


But you don't worry about how your plans will work and if it will not work.


Even after your planning, death can come knocking.

That's why you don't worry.

That's what My Lord Jesus said.

Glory to the Ancient of Days

Glory to his Lamb Jesus

It's this foolish teaching, that condemns many to praying for things, that requires simple planning and perseverance.

If it's about worry, why do Christians still pray for necessities of life? They pray for these things, because they are perfectly deluded not to think and plan how to have them.

"take no thought for your life", says your Jesus. You're to wait for manna to fall.

It's only lunatic, that don't have to think and plan how to sustain their existence. They can eat dung, go naked and sleep at market square.

ysyowel:
no contradiction only you are confused and you don't know the Scripture neither the power in it

Luke 14:28-31centre on the condition of becoming Jesus disciple, if truly one want to follow Jesus he should count the cost less he started what he can not finish


Matthew 6:26-27 center on trust in the Lord, Jesus was addressing his listeners not to be worried about the earthly things like food, clothing, shelter etc but rather they should seek first the kingdom of God and His Righteousness and all this things (clothing, food, shelter etc) shall be added unto them.
pls go back and read Matthew 6:26- the end

It's the foolishness of being a disciple to a deluded mind like Jesus, that's the crux of the post.

If your Jesus, will want those who wish to follow him, to sit back, and have serious and thoughtful consideration about that decision.

But will have them, in another contradicting teaching, not to give same pondering to how their needs will be provided for and sustained.

It's evident that there's no other means by which human needs can be met, except by actual thoughts and actions, directed at meeting those needs.

The talk about birds not in active search for their needs, as referred to in the following verses by your Jesus, is a stupid one. Go watch animal planet on dstv, you will see the intelligent efforts of birds, when it comes to their survival.

The rogues called pastors, will die of starvation, if they have to wait for Yahweh provide for them.

THE CONTRADICTIONS ACCORDING TO JESUS

(1) Luke 14:28 - 31

*For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?

*Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,

* Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.

*Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?

(2) Matthew 6:25 - 27

*Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

*Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

*Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

I was really not comfortable in my rational self, back in the years that i was taught the Bible and that i preached to sheeples from the Bible. I possibly couldn't be numbed, to the pricking of contradictions, absurdities and denial of reality whenever i ponder on the biblical teachings.

From the very words of Jesus, as quoted above, it will take minds that are perfectly immersed in pool of illusion and delusion, to find pleasure in gathering where this contradictions are taught and the Bible where it's written.

God-idea is a significant source of confusion. No group of people, are as confused and self harming, as those infested and afflicted by Yahweh-Virus.

If you're sceptic of God-idea now, especially the Yahweh variant, it's sign that your deliverance from God-delusion is near. You will find your God-burden lifted and the yoke of illusion broken off your neck, if you accept Reason into your life, as your personal Lord and saviour.

Reason bless you!

#epihanic

Hier:
Okay, lemme establish this first

Most people masturbate habitually.

Many times, they are driven by desires stemming from their uncontrolled lusting, which I believe from experience to be demonic

About the man doing it because of fertility test, the question will be, will his doing it, cause him to take to it, if the answer is No, then it's not a sin, but if yes, then it's like helping a man, but you eventually killed him.

About the sin part, if his conscience brings it to his notice that he did something wrong, then, let him ask for forgiveness

It still remains a conscience thing

Did you see how difficult it's, for you to arrive at definitive response or answer to my prodding?

I asked you, so you can see how nonsensical, the claim of you Christians, that morality is objective/absolute.

If Masturbation is sinful - an absolute immoral act(according to your Bible), then, any act of Masturbation, the purpose notwithstanding, will be sinful (as in the case of fertility test).

Hier:
Well, I want to assume, you don't want to go the Bible way

Well, from my past life, I notice deep within me, I feel this guilt after the act.

Not to talk about the hatred I feel for myself

I tend to visit some P site to stir the emotions

From the above, if God really created my body, then my body is telling me, don't and nothing is saying yes except from the fact, an unseen or unknown force is driving me against what I don't wanna do.

From the above, I consider it a sin, based on my stance of my conscience

I will educate you on the guilt consciousness that descends on you, after sexual gratification, in my next reply.

Now to the question i asked you.

If fertility lab test is to be conducted on a man, Masturbation will be done, so the sperm can be collected. That's motive/purpose.

Tell me, has the man committed sin?

Hier:
Well, I want to assume, you don't want to go the Bible way

Well, from my past life, I notice deep within me, I feel this guilt after the act.

Not to talk about the hatred I feel for myself

I tend to visit some P site to stir the emotions

From the above, if God really created my body, then my body is telling me, don't and nothing is saying yes except from the fact, an unseen or unknown force is driving me against what I don't wanna do.

From the above, I consider it a sin, based on my stance of my conscience

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OLAADEGBU:
If the Bible is just a book of fairy-tales, then why is it banned in at least 52 countries?

The day that some deluded minds, start PROSELYTIZING from other known INSIDIOUS books of fairy-tales, such books will also be banned.

Hier,
Is it the PURPOSE/MOTIVATION of Masturbation that's sinful or the very ACT of Masturbation?

hopefulLandlord:
what I mean is that as much as they illogically chose their belief, they tend to employ more skepticism in other issues especially issues not influenced by religion

Based on my studied observation, religious conditioning traps most faith adherents, from formative years. Therefore, the illogical behavior, permeates significant areas of their life.

Albeit, this observation can only be understood by folks, who are knowledgeable in this area and know how folks vacillate within conscious and unconscious spectrum of awareness.

sonofluc1fer:
These days, when I'm sober, I choose to believe the person behind that moniker is a sadist who would say the most inane things just to get a rise out of atheists.

The effort and the regularity, the constant stream of befuddling logic, bundled with a rigid incapacity to appreciate new information, surely no sentient being could survive for so long.


This must be God's punishment to atheists, an irrefutable proof of his loving kindness and mercy. For without divine love, what other explanation could there be that this, this, this fuckingmoron gets to live so long?

'one corner' will come and go,
Even wizkid and Davido,
But from ages to ages,
Felixomoron will remain the same.

Good night.

This will serve à befitting dirge, on the day that odious moniker, dies an e-death.

Jesuschrist419:
if Christainity is not a religion, what is it?

Chronic mental disorder!

The erroneous definition of atheism, is largely responsible for the conflict of thoughts, When it comes to perceptive expectations from persons labeled as atheist.

Really, nobody can be called an atheist. Because that would suggest a philosophical or ideological or conceptual entity.

The "RESPONSE" to the UNSUBSTANTIATED claims of existence of Gods, is what originated the label - atheist.

Since atheistic "response", isn't ideological nor conceptual nor philosophical, the "responder" can't have existential status.

So, someone can hold atheistic response, but infirmed of decency, reason and empathy in relating with other aspects of life.

Atheism starts and ends, with the MOMENT that one rejects, the unsubstantiated claims of existence of Gods.