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@ OP,

It is quite unfortunate that most nigerians see politics as the surest way to make it in nigeria. Infact, once you have a 'foothold' on politics, you literally have access to oil.

This is why most (if not all) other sectors are neglected. That's why you have 'do or die' politics. Most money-bags in nigeria have one political connection or another

For me, I believe you don't have to be a politician to really make it. I still believe agriculture is a viable option to earning a decent living. Think about it,,,,,,,the world is still eating chocolate, but the SW have abandoned large scale cocoa plantation that once sustained the west. Same for the east that had palm oil plantation,,,,,,the north that had groundnut.
If an individual can get into one of the cash crop cultivation, the sky will be the limit- politics or no politics!

fstranger3:
Those are not as interesting as learning how the Yoruba intelligentsia, backed the Hausas, to pummel Ndigbo into submission!

My friends, the OP 'nyash' has been exposed . I hereby give you the following revelation:

Donlittle=fstrnger3

I will maitain that this OP is a fraud.

He is using a different Id to instigate another e-battle?

BTW, the OP needs to study about afonja and the ilorin mishap since he is of yoruba extraction.

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jason123:
It should not be taught in schools for obvious reasons. In a fight or a war in this case, there are two stories (as they say, it takes two to tango), and they are both at fault.

There are different ethnic groups that view the Civil war in different ways

Northerners: Northerners fought against Biafra because an Igbo man killed their Spiritual leader and the leaders of other ethnic group while leaving their own leaders (Igbos) to somehow escape.

West or Yorubas: They did not want to get involved in the war until Ojukwu (Biafra warlord) invaded the MW (their cousins) and bomb lagos with the perceived plan of Biafra invasion of the West after the MW had fallen. The coup also assassinated Samuel Akintola (the western prime minister or leader back then).


MW: They viewed the Biafran army as an army of occupation or they Biafra army had a secret expansionist agenda.

Ijaw: According to them, they said Ojukwu was disrespectful and all so they turned aginst Biafra

The Eastern Minorities: All opposition leaders to Biafra were killed by the dominate Igbo ethnic group in that geographical expression. They were basically forced into a war without their consent.

The Igbo: They wanted to liberated the country of corruption and all but the plan fail when they killed leaders from every other ethnic group but their escaped so it was viewed as an ethnic coup or an Igbo coup. Also, the quick expansion of Biafra territory into other occupied territories did not help matters.
Pogroms started in the North and a lot of igbos were killed.

Conclusion:
The above was just a brief summary. It should not be taught in schools because it WILL promote hatred and castigation. The North is still finding it hard to forgive. All in all, it will just promote hatred and open old wounds.

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arrant nonsense! sometimes I wonder how you sleep well at night with these your lies and hypocrisy!
I guess it's Biafra time, you had to rear your ugly head into it

@ OP
You are a fraud! reveal your true self if you have any balls/breast (choose one that applies to you)

You are here to cause another commotion. You already know the truth but will deny it, even if staring you in the face.

BTW, ask your parents to reveal the[b] truth [/b] about the war and don't bother people on NL.

@ OP
You are a fraud! reveal your true self if you have any balls/breast (choose one that applies to you)

You are here to cause another commotion. You already know the truth but will deny it, even if staring you in the face.

BTW, ask your parents to reveal the[b] truth [/b] about the war and don't bother people on NL.

jason123:
This Onlytruth and Ezeuche (and sometimes Alex) are the funnest internet characters I have every come across.  
When you hear them type crap, you sometimes wonder if they are actually guilty of the crime (suppression of minorities). Take a look at how a North easterner and a MWesterner put them in their place? Even with the little time I spent in Nigeria, one thing was certain, Igbos ONLY employ themselves. I noticed this in Lagos. Yet, it is yorubas that are the tribalist. Igbos claim other people's territory yet it is the Yorubas that are tribalist.
I really do not have time to debate you guys but all I want you to leave with is, "anybody that reads this thread will think Igbos lost a great empire instead of simply the dissociation of minority groups from them". Other minorities and majority groups (Aljharem, Physics, and I)are not even claiming or not claiming other groups the way these 3 people above do. Well sha, carry one . . . . . . . . time will surely tell.lol.

Let me get this straight, you want an Igbo boy that started out by serving his "oga" for years, got a start-up money for his own business to employ outsiders before his own fellow brothers? Thesame Igbo business/product that is derided as "Aba made"? .
What of Innonso motors, which the vast majority of nigeria (even on nairaland) referred to as "unsafe". Even a governmental body had to sideline Innonso motors by ordering buses from China. Business must grow large enough before it can sustain a huge workforce. Most Igbo businesses are individually owned and there is nothing wrong in keeping it in the family.

Ol boy, your hypocrisy knows no bound. You don't have to vote GEJ, neither do Igbo have to vote BB. Do your thing and let others do theirs. What I don't like is this holier than thou attitude of yours

Alj Uche:
can you imagine animals people thinking like this

can you imgine this fagg@t responding to me

This is why I laugh at those who shout one nigeria

As a die hard "non-one nigerianist", I am exceedingly glad because the outcome of GEJ's victory in the forthcoming election will see the beginning of the end of that dungeon called nigeria.

The CIA are not fools when they predicted the demise of nigeria come 2015. Over the years, I have also realise that tribalism is very much needed for nigeria to break-up. With tribaism gravely entrenched and practised by all, there is no way the nigerian spirit(if there is any such thing at all) can ever be one,,,,,hence; it's a fee fall forever for 'one nigeria'!

Finally my friends, let us enjoy nigeria while it last. Let us never stop practising our tribalism.

LONG LIVE TRIBALISM IN THE NIGERIAN DUNGEON! LET EVERY ETHNIC GROUP (MAJORITY AND MINORITY) FEEL ITS IMPACT! AMEN!

We go no who go survive without the other! Peace out

henry101:
Why do wake up so early with so much anger, loss of hope, frustration and bitterness?
You should channel your outburst to your masters or haven't you been given your paycheck for the month? Then, it means you are not [b]licking your master's ar/se enough.[/b]The day you type/ talk without any form abuse, the better our society will be.
You are so damned and too frustrated.

Fashola has bought himself some tissue paper,,,,,,hence Eko Ole's tongue is no longer needed!

My friends of SW enclave have forgotten Ilorin and Afonja History 101

Obiagu1:
. . . and tomorrow they'll blame the Igbos for the sharia.

I know my brother. Igbos are always to be blamed for everything.

I once knew a guy of SW extraction who was denied visa to China. This guy blamed Ndigbo for his rejection by lamenting on how "omo Igbo" spoilt China and her embassy in Lagos

I dey laugh oh!

1st, they invite fulani to settle in ekiti,,,,,,,

now they are inviting sharia to their region! HMMMMMM! ole gan ni o!

Onlytruth:
@alex,

Meanwhile, lets ignore this e-goat running around and bleating trash.

I'm off. Peace.

I've ignored that fooooooooool a long time ago! He doesn't exist as far I'm concerned

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alex101
My brother, it is really not about the Ijaw, believe me. This is where most Igbo misread the political tea leaves.
[b]This is really about Ndigbo.[/b]If you can organize your self behind one cause which is not yours, you can also organize yourself behind YOUR own cause. Simple sense.

I see way past this year. I see the future!

Onlytruth:
@alex,

I believe that if Ndigbo can devise a way to ALWAYS speak with one voice, EVERYBODY in Nigeria would listen whenever we speak.
For me, that is priceless.

You're quite correct. I guess I'm still carried away by this phantom "Igbo domination"

Onlytruth:
@alex101

The biggest achievement by Ndigbo this year is the ability to speak with one voice.
That had eluded us for many years, but we did it resoundingly this year with GEJ.
From here, we can build on that ability. You have to count one before counting two.

M0r0ns like egift can't get it.

Perfect!

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alex101
I really believe that Ndigbo are gradually learning and adjusting to Nigerian politics.  
I'm still positively shocked that there is no single presidential candidate from Igboland this year.  
That alone is an amazing feat for a people so disorganized a few years back.
I'm proud of what we Ndigbo have achieved by supporting GEJ this year.  
If we can do this, we can definitely do more.  

The bolded is the greatest thing to ever happen to Igbo politically I am happy that this issue of doctored "Igbo domination" is gradually being put to rest.

I see it this way: in previous presidential elections with Igbo candidate, you will have another Igbo candidate(s) running for thesame thing,,,,,,remember 2003?
Now, an Ijaw is vying for the post, Igbo is exhibiting maturity by not running,,,,,,,,,,our detrators can no longer accuse Ndigbo of selfishness,,,,,if only the Ijaw people will open their eyes!

egift:
And when the Ijaws lead the Nigerian forces into Aligbo they were just doing the Brotherhood thing. You guys are so tribalistic, am ashamed to call you brothers.

What is the interest of Ndigbo in this election? To elect a President that will fix Nigeria or primarily to elect Jonathan?

And you Buhari is not tribalistic?

The ofemanus who did an 'about turn' on GEJ are not?

My guy, you are a waste of time.

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alex101
Don't worry my friend, a lot of young Igbo leaders are feeling like you. We have already had that problem. Most the idiots that sabotaged Biafra never returned to Igboland. They stayed in Lagos and raised their kids to be thinking through their anuses.

@ the bolded, I fervently hope they are, because quite frankly, we cannot afford to be undermined from within,,,,,,,,, we already have too many unfriendly people from the outside and don't need any from/within the home front

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alex101
I can bet you 100% that that goat is not Igbo. I see his pattern of thinking. . . it is "typical". LOL.

Same here! I have my suspicion too

egift:
So because many of us are not dancing unclothed na ama ezi - we are no longer Igbo. Onukwu.

my friend sharrap dia!

I have also summed up the biafra war as follows:

-Biafra fought the war on two fronts

-1stly; Biafra fought against nigeria and her british, USSR and arab league allies.

-2ndly; Biafra had to contend with efulefus from within. These efulefus were willing to sell biafra to her enemies, just because they want to appear different, 'sophisticated' and republican

I still believe that Igboland is still riddled with these clowns, and it will do us a whole lot of good if we can 'identify and excommunicate' such saboteurs from our sacred land,,,,,,,,,,,IF ONLY I'M AN IGBO LEADER

Going by what I read from some Buhari supporters of Igbo extraction, I cannot help but shake my head. Unbridled 'Igbo republicanism" is what has kept Ndigbo in their current political plight in nigeria. The blame should go to Igbo parents who raise their kids outside of Alaigbo and at thesame time fail to teach them what they will face as Igbo men/women in nigeria.
This is like  African American parents failing to alert their ward with what they will face as they grow up as black men/women in America, especially in terms of racial profiling. Igboland has some efulefus that need to be offloaded.
When Buhari picked Bakare, I saw the hand writing on the wall,,,,,,,the usual 'about-turn' of the SW. In a way I like this. Now this will be a defining moment for the relationship between Ndigbo and Ijaw,,,,,,Ijaw people can now see that there is no such thing as 'Igbo domination' which the north and the SW have been telling them all these years.

bashr4:
see them crying like christmas foul , you want one nigeria but u dont want it , fools . post a thread about the east secceding from nigeria and watch how the same people will tear it up. goats in human clothing.

Guy don't ming these dummies. They are afraid of competing on a level playing ground.

It's like they want things to be handed down to them on a platter of gold, just like monthly allocation.

Igbos are free to pitch tent with any candidate of their chosen!

No amount of threat(s) and noise making that can chage that.

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=630221.msg7974335#msg7974335 date=1300937928]You really think this is the 1960s. Igbos have always had a cold war with Nigeria. You simply think we are going to run? We didn't run in South Africa, we didn't run in Kano, we didn't run in Jos, and we are definitely not running in Lagos.

If an Igbo chooses to stay in those areas, they know that there is no turning back to the East. Either fight where you stand or perish.

I feel sorry for the Yoruba though. Chickens coming home to roost I must say. Hausa bearing down from the North, Igbo and Ijaws from the East. It seems like your land is already being PARTITIONED. [/quote]Nna, don't mind that dunce. He thinks intimidation and empty threat will sway Igbo to his 'lord and personal savior' Buhari.
I guess if Igbo were for Buhari, the fool will be singing kumbaya by now.

I don't know why people are getting paranoid over nothing! It is democracy, ain't it? Is this not what Abiola died for?

People have the right to vote for whom they choose/like to vote. NO amount of intimidation or weak threats will change the IGBO mind!

Sei GEJ who no like, make e go sip on concentrated acid.

Alj Uche:
guy go hang, does the title say anything igbo ??

or do you think i am a tribalist

show me where the title say anything about igbo

you rate yourself too high

we are not talking about igbo but talking about lagos and other states here

"we are not talking about Igbo" but you wrote the following:

Alj Uche:
i wouldn't lie this is what i have been saying since

those ohaneze needs to be beaten by a good dongo yaro stick i tell you
lagos will be bloody this election

so I guess Ohaneze= kanuri association and not Igbo?

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=630221.msg7974300#msg7974300 date=1300936624]Agreed. The Politics section has been flooded with Igbo topics. It makes you wonder.

Will the Igbo be used as a scapegoat, even though we have no candidate running for president?[/quote]Ol boy I tire for these folks menh!

Sometimes I wonder if Nlders just wake up and say,,,,,,,,yee!,,,,,what Igbo topic am I going to post/start, just to cause commotion

Alj Uche:
my sentiment excatly

he chats rubbish a lot

thus using igbos as scrapegoat and i am igbo NAMA as well in the north for that matter

goodluck should not be the president of nigeria or else at this rate, there will be nothing called nigeria again

Can you tell us your true motive for starting this silly thread?

Are you trying to incite another e-tribal battle?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=629991.msg7973935#msg7973935 date=1300925055]@alex101:

I realize the importance of oil to the economy, man. Especially in a pre-industrial country like Nigeria.

Otoh, if someone tells me that 20% of those oil reserves are in Yorubaland (either offshore or onshore. . . ) then the game changes. 400K barrels of oil per day is enough for me. . . especially when you combine that with Lagos port revenues that go to the federal government, VAT money, and the possibility of additional minining of resources like gold and bitumen.

I don't want to leave Nigeria unless it is done on a firm financial footing.[/b]Biofuel is just a replacement for oil. And unless you want to wipe out the Amazon rainforest in Brazil, there is only so much of it you'll be able to produce. Not to mention how it raises the cost of basic foodstuffs, thus placing a lot of pressure on poor people.
[b]
Regarding electric cars. . . have you tried to buy one before? They are way too expensive compared to the gas equivalent, even with US federal and state subsidies available. I bought a car in 2007, ended up just buying the ordinary version rather than the hybrid.[/quote]@ 1st bolded, since you don't want to leave nigeria, will you in any 'form, shape, or capacity' help those like say Ijaw that desire to leave?
@ 2nd bolded, regarding electric cars, I know they are expensive at the moment, but in the later part of this century-say 2030, they will be affordable by everybody that wants one

@ post/OP,

Oil will become irrelevant very soon. Most cars of the later half of the 21st century will run on mostly electricity and biofuel, as we currently have in Brazil.

Even most tractor trailers/18-wheelers will be fully powered by compressed gas, which the US has in large quantity/reserve.

The industries that will depend on oil (at a considerable level) will be the airline industry and 'military industrial complex'. Of course, the latter will only need it in huge amount when there is a major conflict.

So my friends, the 'party' will be over sooner than later.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=629991.msg7973840#msg7973840 date=1300923494]How can this guy speak so authoritatively about something he has no clue about?


Anyway, back on topic. . . of[b] Nigeria's oil reserves (36.2 billion barrels), [/b] how much is in Yorubaland? Either onshore or offshore?

As far as I know, we don't have that much. Lagos, Ondo, Edo have enormous amounts of bitumen though. . . which isn't nearly as profitable [/quote]Chei! Eku-bear, I know you are not far behind. Anywhere there is oil, you are there

Anyway, I don't blame you jare, who will reject free oil money