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EzeUche:
My Igbo brothers are right. Any topic that deals with Igbos the Yorubas continue to worry about other people's business.

They should worry about their own land and[b] how they have people who rather be Northerners than Yorubas which is PATHETIC.[/b]

The yorubas don't really like the northerners, heck they never like annybody, but because they fear the northerners, that is why they chicken out anytime they see the hausa/fulani. Their people are killed in the north, but they act like it's only Igbo that are affected, and they never ask why because of the fear they have for their hausa/fulani masters. SICKNESS!

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=716755.msg8750619#msg8750619 date=1311133209]Hehe

Alex101 and Bliss4lyfe running from pillar to post.

Let me repost:

Face Saro Wiwa's accusation!  [/quote]

Bliss4Lyfe:
ekt_bear, did you see the qoute below:
[b]With the war ended, and as a Commissioner in Rivers State, I soon found that the Rivers State for which I had fought did not end my nightmare. In the first place, oil money from Ogoni country (as well as Ijaw country) was being carted away to Lagos, leaving the Ogoni illiterate and backward.[/b]

In this article, it was stated clearly that LAGOS WAS BUILT WITH OIL MONEY, just like ABUJA WAS.

Therefore, awolowo cannot be given credit, because the so called cocoa money from the old western region could not had paid for the 3rd mainland bridge. These minorities of the old eastern region,,,I greet una good morning o! The yorubas and their hausa/fulani masters could not believe their luck .

jason123:
I hope you know that what you just did can be equivalent to when people also insult Ojukwu?? Have you no respect?? So, basically, he has no right to talk for his people, abi? C'mon, he did not want his people to be part of Biafra. Respect him and his wish. Don't divert this thread to suit your agenda. PLEASE

Feel free to insult Ojukwu all you want, it doesn't take anything away from him as the man who saw tomorrow.
With regards to the bolded, why after all the insults on Igbo, he came begging Ohanaeze and Ojukwu to help him and his Ogoni people? Even today, Asari Dokubo is asking Igbo to help them with their cause, after edwin clark has been "talking for his" ijaw people all these years . My problem with these people is that they will stab Igbo in the back and when boxed in the corner, will come crawling to thesame Igbo. Jason123, you need to give up tribalism and use your head sometimes.

Buyahayaya! Good for all these dumb minoroties of the old eastern region. Imagine saro wiwa saying he struck friendship with the likes of danjuma, obj, akinranade, sani bello when he visited the war front. Today, these names that are yoruba and hausa/fulni own the oil blocks in his ogoni land. I have no pity for this man or any of these minorities,,,,may their land continue to be pillaged and be polluted, nonsense! saro wiwa (name written in lower case on purpose), remain in hell!

Eko Ile:
Congrats to ibo people and welcome to the modern age,


With the picture below, y'all still have a long long way to go.

Chei fashola arse. licker, so the mere mention of Enugu international airport makes you shiver in you lagos dungeon. Seriously, when are you going to jump into a pool of acid bath where you will be dissolved alive, anuofia. Enugu airpot will become international whether you Yoruba fools like it or not,,,again you're free to commit suicide like your criminal-coup-plotting-coward father awalowa!

Good news, but when are they going to "internationalize" the Enugu airport? I look forward to the day I can fly directly from overseas to Igboland without setting foot on any part of the nigerian dungeon .

chino11:
At least he was 1 million times educated and intelligent than your foolish and nincompoop 'leader' Awalawao.

"While there he attended Howard University, Washington DC[7][8] before enrolling and graduating from Lincoln University, Pennsylvania in 1930. He obtained a masters degree in 1933 from the University of Pennsylvania.[9] He worked as an instructor at Lincoln before returning to Nigeria."

Just check out Ziks academic profile. By the time Zik returned to Nigeria after having gotton multi-degrees in several fields, Awalaowo was yet to make his SSCE. By 1930 Zik already studied in one of best universities in the world while Awalawoa was still in the forest with monkeys eating cocoa

LMAO @ the bolded.

BTW, Oga chino11, one of nigeria's founding fathers' name is spelt "Awolowo". I'm finding it difficult in pronouncing this your own version "Awalawo",,,"Awolawoa",,,,"Awalowoh" .

Eziachi:
Coming through the back door was legitimate then and that include Rawlings, our hero in Ghana. Depending of how old you were in 1984, millions of Nigeria trooped to the street to celebrate that back door entrance.

Trust me sir Eziachi, nigerians are the most confused set of human clowns you can ever come across. Today they will say split! split! split! Tomorrow they will say don't split! We need each other . For them any govt in power is regarded as the messiah/saviour as long as that govt is there . I tell you if the devil himself can wangle his way to the presidency, brain-dead nigerians will regard him/her as their saviour .

Hmmm Interesting. The dungeon called nigeria remains the greatest lie ever told by man.

I know a TRUTHFUL thread like this will never attract posters because quite frankly, nigerians and truth don't mix.

Well, the end is in sight. Then again to save nigeria, the aburi accord that proffered confederation/true federalism or some thing similar must be adopted

Onlytruth:
^^

No, they are not the same thing. This is a NEW idea because it is individual based and not community based.

Great idea!

Something tells me that we (Anambrarians) lost a golden opportunity when we failed to elect Soludo.  

@ the bolded, I totally understand what you mean here, but also, you have to consider the General's (Ikemba's) last request in which he asked Anambrarians to vote in Peter Obi. I think if Soludo (a PDP candidate) had won, it would have sent a wrong signal to non-Igbo that our beloved Ikemba in not that influential in Igboland afterall,,,,,IBB may not have even sought for his support back then while he (IBB) was considering running.
 With open minded co-operation and love for Igbo land, I think Soludo can still be of help to Gov. Obi and other SE Governors by exchanging good ideas such as this,,,or like Obiaju1 stated: wait for 2 yrs and take the chance under APGA

to spice up this thread, enjoy

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXWF8tC3t8[/flash]

^^^^
Okay, I get your point.

LOL @ "somalianisaton of nigeria"

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alex101
Seconded powerfully.

Everything else is really mute. Folks can choose to believe whatever they want. Mine is to warn Ndigbo to stay away from unbridled "fairness", "patriotism" and "nationalism".

If we focused only on our interest, we would be ruling all facets of Nigeria today. Though I don't know whether I would like to rule Somalia.    But God dey sha.

@ the bolded, do you mean nigeria is like somalia? If so, many one-nigerianists will beg to differ

For me I think the most important lesson of this thread is "ignore tribalism at your own peril". I have decided to look beyond the main cause of the jan 15 coup, for it will lead to another arguement about cvil war bla,,,bla,,bla. I think this thread should serve as an "eye-opener" as to not trying to save outsiders in the dungeon called nigeria. The so called Igbo "nationalism" and "efulefuism" needs to be curbed as history has a way of repeating itself.

The whole Abiola saga can be summed up by applying the yoruba adage as follows:

"ti ti enikan o ba baje, ti elo mi oni da" (translation in our pigin english: if one person own no spoil, another person own no go good )

Most of Abiola's workers believed his incarceration and misfortune was a sign of blessing to them, thus their engagement in massively looting everything he had.

Thesame fate almost befell OBJ,,,,his workers at otta farm robbed him blind while he was imprisoned,,,,from chicken, turkey, corn, yam to other farm produce. His saving grace was he made it out alive and was imposed as president. That was why the otta ape looted the dungeon called nigeria blind. Infact, the greatest looter today in nigeria is OBJ.

@ dem_people, I'll advise you to refrain from engaging these oafs in any form of arguement on this particular thread,,,,for it will lead to a circus.

I believe a thread like this is meant to highlight how Ndigbo thought wrong in terms of having "nationalistic" outlook instead of the more important "regionalistic" outlook in the 60s. Lets not fall for their pranks so as to not derail this thread .

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=688429.msg8502479#msg8502479 date=1307830582]Which will complete his ancestor's (Fodio) conquest of the South beginning from the S.West.

I don't agree that Sarduana should have been left "unchecked" but at the same time, Nzeogwu's coup should never have failed. Its one of those very rare operations that should have been planned and designed not to fail. Something akin to a nuclear bomb explosion accident as a result of failure!

On the whole though, sometimes I try to imagine what Nzeogwu must've been thinking. Something like; "If we decide to wait for the parliament where the North had a majority then there wasn't any slightest chance of a Balewa impeachment and something on that line" . Or something like, "If the people protested. . . .oh yes they did but it was confined to the western region as a result of the conflict between the two groups. Not enough to "bring down" the government."[/quote]@ the 1st bolded, the conquest of the south could have happened and remained only in the west. The hausa/fulani are not stupid to engage Ndigbo in war at that time.

@ the 2nd bolded, since you feel Sarduana should be "contained", why do you think this task of containment should be carried out by predominantly Igbo sons? Don't the SW have sons in the army and besides, isn't their region that was on "fire"? For me, Ndigbo should not be acting more nigerian than others,,,,play the games others are playing, SIMPLE!

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=688429.msg8502265#msg8502265 date=1307828097]Interesting. Very interesting. Confirms my theories in the sense that the Sarduana and by extension, Balewa, were indeed on a stealth operation to complete Fodio's conquest of the South. The main devil who I personally consider the progenitor of the political upheavals of the '60s is Ahmadu Bello.

Perhaps there isn't any Nigerian I've thought thoroughly about than Nzeogwu himself - and which side he was between a hero and a villian.

Whatever thoughts we have of Nzeogwu, our thoughts have greatly been influenced by hindsight. If he had succeeded then I can't think of anyone who would have been held in a "herosphere" by Nigerians, than he himself.

Who knows, maybe Awolowo would have been a greater devil than Bello if he was installed by Nzeogwu and his team. We just don't know.

Do I believe he's a hero or villian? Personally to me, Nzeogwu wasn't ethnocentrically motivated but was motivated by patriotism. He just couldn't "hold/control" it to the point of seeking a civil intervention of some sort to the crisis - and that's where I fault him but then again, remember that my verdictal opinion of him is largely as a result of the benefit of hindsight, knowing the coup was a failed operation.

The best government Nigeria would have ever had would have been a government between NCNC and AG with Zik and Awo at the helm but well, great minds are always in competitive modes when engaged with each other. Its difficult to see whether both men would've worked well together.

I doubt so!  [/quote]Nzeogwu and his likes are nothing but fools and deserve nothing but death. They had no business trying to be heroes and should have allowed Sarduana to deal with the riots in the west as he deemed fit. They are partly responsible for today's plight of Igbo in the nigerian dungeon

The moral of this whole saga is to mind your own business and never go/come to the aid of those who aren't your tribe's men . Ndigbo should stop acting like they are more nigerian than others. I've always pondered as to why those efulefu majors refused to see tribalism in the 1960s. What is their concern if the western region was burning and Awo was imprisoned? Why couldn't they let it burn or let Ahmadu Bello deal with Awo the way he deemed fit?

 Even the Ikemba knows this,,,,,that was why he didn't border trying to save Saro Wiwa's neck from Abacha's noose, inspite of the latter's attempt at reconciliation with Ikemba and Ndigbo in general.

T9ksy:
Thank goodness for the Ikemba!!

Hopefully, his 5 months stint in a London hospital having, probably caught a glimpse of the other side/life, will compel him to at least apologise to the yorubas (and the mid-west) for invading our territory.

Can you for once behave yourself? What is it with this Ojukwu's phantom "invasion" of yoruba land that you keep making up?

BTW, how is your dear "uninvaded" yoruba land in the one-nigerian dungeon faring? Have you guys sent any man to space or moon yet? Remember we are in the

21st century,,,,,the chineese, indians and RSA are ahead of your "one-nigeria" that was never ruled by your most hated Ojukwu!

Buyayahahahayahhahayhahha

"Area-boy-politicians" and "Rascals"

A dungeon that can't harness the ingenuity of it's inhabitants . Remaining in this dungeon called nigeria is the greatest obstacle to the Igbo progress,,,,well, 2015 here we come .

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=686229.msg8483260#msg8483260 date=1307580886]yeah I am for real, be positive i am not a bad person, [/quote]Ok, time will tell!

jason123:
Guy, so if I have issues with him, it means I must wish him death Pls, take your tribalism elsewhere!!!

This is no matter of tribalism I was just wondering if you and alj. harem are for real .

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=686229.msg8482959#msg8482959 date=1307574834]Thank God am really happy man

he should just go rest with his family and take life easy

Ojukwu congrates may you life long ikemba 1 [/quote]

jason123:
I thank God!!! wish you the soonest recovery  

Are you guys for real? Are guys sure about your "wishes" for the Ikemba, after blaming him for your "one-nigerian" woes?