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Na wa o !

I don't support the insult of Mr president. It just shows how manner-less we are. You can criticise without insult.

@Willy-willy, Malawian and co. Na wa for una o !

Mumus wey talk say Lagos no get oil. Well Lagos Ogun and Ondo have light crude oil.

Ondo north, Ogun and Edo have heave oil.

Now the issue here about the oil spillage would affect epe areas because fishing is our trade.

I would urge all Yorubas to please leave this thread and stop commenting. It gets to a certain stage where a thread is no longer productive, Here is one.

ismhab: THE FOUNDING FATHER OF CORRUPTION AND STEALING.

LOL where is that tafa balogun sef

oduasolja: FUNNY IGBOS.

a 25 year lease does not represent ownership of property.

the lease is about to be up in 2017 which is 5 years from now.

many of you never paid for the whole 25 year lease . and the lease is almost over.

see how una dey do. thief.

u rent a place , pay the first payment and refuse to pay anything after.

well 2017 is around the corner. get ready to pack and leave.

dude shut up. When you started the topic, you knew what it would cause, insult upon insults. C'mon we are above this in this country.

tribal sentiment etc would not take us anywhere

slam7000: Pls dont trivialise that title,there is nothing like Eze Ndigbo here.Onlytruth is voicing his opinions here and that does not reflect that of ndigbos,are you trying to say those ''non igbo''textiles sellers pay about N3,000,000 for their shops

No problem my brother. We all the same people. It is people like Onlytruth that try to divide us for some reason best known to him.

Yes 2 years rent for a 4 corner shop can be as high as 2 million naira. In fact I know a woman that sells cloths. She rented two shops side by side and broke the wall down to join it together. She pays as high as 3 million naira

These people I am talking about are not Igbo.

It is only on nairaland you would find an iddeiot like Onlytruth trying to cause enmity where there is none.

He should tell us if truly he has been to Ladipo market whether an authority would know the difference between who is Yoruba or who is not.

Nri priest should give me his uncle phone number and name so I can meet up with his uncle and sort this thing our once and for all.

I want to know those behind it IF TRULY SUCH EXIST.

Onlytruth I think you have got no brains at all I wonder how an adult with Eze ndigbo to his title would talk divisively.

Moreover the way some of you talk here, one would think it is only Igbo people that have shops in ladipo. You talk of 500,000 per shop if you know what those textile shop owners pay you all would shut your mouth. these people you call iGBOS ARE paying a 6th of what the textile owners are paying.

All those shop owners in markets is no beans even in Onitsha. So don't buy the rubbish Onlytruth and co are saying.

Moreover I don't the point for all this treat. Abeg if una wan leave by all means leave. All this silly comments about Lagos etc would die etc would not do anyone any good

Odenigbo Aroli: Look,all you yorubas who are here talking nonsense are nothing but bunch of pathological bigots! You dont know jack about ladipo spare parts else you wont be talking out of your a.ss! Ladipo spare parts market is 99% Igbo dominated and most traders there has paid all their dues but still hasnt received their allocation documents! Do you even know how much stalls are in Ladipo spare parts market? Yorubas dont own a single stall in that market and i challenge you to tell me their shop number in that spare parts market! Yorubas who trade their are sqauters because they cant afford the ridiculous stall rents. Up till today my cousin own three stalls in that market and do you know how much those stalls cost? Paramo dont have the liver to cough out billions and pay those guys back thats why he resorted to threats and used area boys to harrass the Igbos! And even if he pays back who will he sell them to? Yorubas who doesnt have a solid 200,000 capital ? That guy is in a shi.t hole. He already lavished all his money in owanbe parties while the Igbo boys are saving and getting richer! Like I said earlier,he is in for a shocker!!

Pure rubbish. Well again as I have told you before I know someone that has 2 shops in Ladipo market. Spare part does not constitute the majority of Ladipo market. In fact it is textile.

Another rubbish when you call yorubas bigots just because of the authority. The authority might even be an Igboman for all we care.

We do not look at your ethnicity to interact with people. These lies have to stop, majority of Yorubas bigots here on Nairaland are as a result of Igbo bigots. We are not naturally like that, Yes we take GREAT pride on our heritage be does not make us discriminate.

Give me your uncle's shop number, phone number and name. I would personally look to it if it is that bad. Thanks

PeterKbaba: Help me ask them if igbos are not among the area boys... if anyone is really a lagosion or been there before.. you can tell that atleast 30% of igbos are among the agberos... agbero is simply those that are poor in the state, atleast no be say them they go bomb every structure to distroy igbo business, they way its always done at the slightest thing in the east.. Seems you guys prefer youths that bombs... can't blame them, igbo bombers

My brother, you go fear.

if we say we are one and we are all lagosains (as I would expect from an omoluabi) why would you discriminate against yorubas then ?

I find it strange.

PeterKbaba: You cant blame them, they have all been brain washed and drained by their leaders.. sterotype and prejudice is a disease... you hate us so much, but you have refused to willingly leave Lagos state... tell me my igbo brothers... if you were to leave lagos, were would you go and sell... what you sell in lagos for 50,000... u sell in your village for 20,000... so what the ek... when laws are passed and majority of yorubas are affected, do you complain. If you can't afford it, why can't you get a soft loan from your leaders in the SE and SS then pay the fuking 500,000

Thank you, In fact I have a family member who works has a shop in Ladipo market.

The lies here is just too much and annoying. The majority of people in ladipo market are textile sellers Alasho not generator sellers.

Those generator sellers and sparepart sellers are at the back of ladipo market close to a school which people usually use as car pack. even there are are some hausa sellers there.

6-7 year ago, some of the shops were broking down because Tinubu wanted to extend the roads. My family was affected. I don't see Yorubas coming as an ethnic group to complain.

What most traders do is extended there goods to the roads so by-passers can see there good. This also is against the law.

babestella: My friend what is the ratio, I know yorubas who own shops on the ground floor of some residential building, do they pay 6 million or sign such ridiculous contract for 10 to 12 years?

When we are talking about ladipo market, we are talking about the market proper and not those who own shops on the ground floor of residential buildings, those one are not affected by this issue.

LOL so are you telling me that every single shop in the market proper are Igbo owned You are joking right.

I would not downgrade those people selling spare parts etc because they are an integral part of our society.

Now for you information or maybe you need to go ask your uncle that has a shop in the market.

The textile sellers aka damask etc in ladipo market are the ones that make the market work also thy pay way more than other sellers because more of the market owners are not common people but wives of senators etc are the shop owners. These area bodys Know these thing which of course you don't know. the authority of those places charge them way higher than any sparepart shop or generator shop. Most of these people pay 3-5 year rent unlike the sparepart yearly bases rent, some even buy it out right.

Please don't come here and to dishing out lies to unsuspecting people. Again an authority does not know the difference between igbo or yoruba. He just want his money that is all.

All this sentiment is really annoying.

babestella: I support redstone's comment, I have an inlaw who owns a show on Nnamdi Azikiwe street in Lagos, they experience terrible things from the area boys who are purportedly sent by the local govt chiefs, because of this, he had to stop selling there and has started another line of business entirely.

please learn more about your area boys bro, they are terrible.

You people are terrible lairs. No chief or Oba would tell Area boys to go collect money from anyone. They don't have the right to do so.

You do as if una the only ones wey get shop for Lagos.

Rubbish.

babestella: Can you compare the size of the shops in Tejuosho to that of Ladipo the environment, how much did it sell for. Even the old Tejuosho market was far better than the new ladipo contraption they are calling market. Let the refund the money if they have the liver to do so.

Ladipo market is not even Lagos's largest market. Moreover Ladipo market is NOT majority Igbos as you and your likes would make one believe. In fact I have a family member who owns a shop in Ladipo and other markets in the state.

Whether they refund or not is upto the government and none of mine. What I hate that is happening here is the way you say "Yoruba" tribalism etc. I don't understand the sense behind that.

babestella: which law is that, a law that is designed to extort and Maltreat the igbos Which Akabueze, can a king's ward rule in the palace? Let Akabueze try and go against the LASG if he will not be booted out like a dead rat. Please just delete that Akabueze you are dragging this, it is lip service.

Maltreat igbos ?

Do people even know whether they are Igbos or not. Please sir don't make yourself sound silly

When tejuosho market was close for a year, they did not maltreat Yorubas ? Now just common law you call it maltreat.

If you cannot live in peace with others please by all means do what you want.

babestella: Let me quote Mr. Olajoku: "“The traders are free to collect their money from us since they are not able to clear the payment, which implies that we can collect our property back from them."

I challenge him to return the money already paid as he has boasted. This is simply tribalism, how many yorubas have shops in ladipo, if not only to sell paraga and alomo, jedi which they hawk up and won the in the market. How many yorubas can pay do f shop in this lagos.

Silly ed iota, he took over from his father only to foment trouble year year out parading area boy, thieves around the market.

Abeg, let him close the market and let igbo learn small too and maybe now move to the east, and lets see what the yorubas will do with the market if not to sell amala and ewedu, paraga and alomo, jedi. Silly idiots. make una no make me vex here oooooo.

Yes sir we yorubas are useless. thank you and we appreciate it . really we could careless

But please if you think Yorubas would be dragged into this tribal games you are playing, well think again

kingoflag: And whered I say any of the things which you've falsely attributed to me above?

kingoflag: I'm starting to learn how to ignore hypocrites like Jermaine, Beaf and that terrorist, Alhaji Harem; I'd advice you to take the same route. If they're too stu.pid to realize that your freedom should at least include what they consume, trust me, nothing you say will assuage them.

Again the freedom has not be taken away from anyone.

I made that point clear from the start. just cause you enforce cassava production in Nigeria does not mean everyone in Nigeria would be forced to eat cassava bread.

In fact have you tried cassava bread before to see if you like it or not.

donfineboi: To be honest ballabriggs is making a very factual point. Beaf u r just beafing...... Sometimes it is best to apply reason, don't be one sided, but I guess ddep in ur heart u know he's tellling d truth......

That is very true. but a journey of a million miles starts with a step

It is easy to read. Even a educated person like me can read the common sentence and can pick out the relevant points.

Those arguing about electricity are right but we start from somewhere by patronising our indigenous people/products and companies.

GEJ still needs to do the electricity but lets start from this first.

everyone have choices and that right has not been taken from anybody.

But the PRODUCTION of flour in Nigeria Must be made from cassava.

Thus production is different from imported. No right is taken from anyone here

kingoflag: I'm starting to learn how to ignore hypocrites like Jermaine, Beaf and that terrorist, Alhaji Harem; I'd advice you to take the same route. If they're too stu.pid to realize that your freedom should at least include what they consume, trust me, nothing you say will assuage them.

Sir Sir Sir !!!! Where the hell does it say all flours in the country must be Cassava ?

Where the hell does it say all bread in the country must be made from cassava ?

where the hell does it say everyone in the country MUST consume cassava bread rather than wheat ?

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Keep disgracing yourselves thinking you are disgracing yorubas. Who's Oba is hungry or you are just lying because as far as I am concerned Ladipo is government owned.

Ideeiot

[quote author=ekt_bear]Anyway, the reps have spoken. The bill has been rightfully rejected.[/quote]it is not rightfully but wrongfully.

[quote author=ekt_bear]Ballabriggs has actually said some important points.

In addition, the focus should be on making local products more competitive, rather than artificially weakening the competitiveness of foreign products.

T[b]he best way to stimulate local production is with electricity[/b]. Not with bans..[/quote]Good as well

ballabriggs: A very petty bill. Should lawmakers occupy themselves with such petty bills? Firstly, it is hypocritical to advocate for a deregulated markets while also placing controls on the content of a product or products. Secondly, one might be forced to ask, [b]is the capacity for local production of cassava sufficient in the Nigerian economy? [/b]Such controls have little effect where capacity is limited because it leads to a distortion of markets thus further eroding the welfare of consumers. Thirdly, if indeed such controls are desirable, then it would have been more appropriate to pass a law promoting local content in various sectors of the economy and not limited to 'Cassava' and flour production. One is thus forced to ask, why is Mr. Jonathan obsessed with cassava flour. Is it most critical to reviving the nations economy? There are numerous sectors of the economy were linkages could be created and not limited to 'Cassava flour'. Like I said earlier such bills are better thrown out because it is not a serious bill. It is a petty bill and the Legislators would do well to occupy themselves with more serious legislative duties.

Good question, Yes it is sufficient for the economy if not Mr president would not have said so. Moreover we can control the prices now unlike before.

This is a plus if the passed into law

[quote author=ekt_bear]Freedom of choice, though.

People should be able to eat what they like..[/quote]There are still choices available for those that want their wheat. But the flour produced in NIGERIA AS A COUNTRY MUST contain cassava. that is all. for those that want wheat, they can buy the imported ones.

I am sure they did not ban the importation of wheat flour into Nigeria.

Kobojunkie: Stop Lying! Nigeria imports even meat, as well as beans, rice, plantain. You name it. That is no reason why our meat should now be tainted by addition of say emo meat. Definitely no reason why there should be a law that mandates the addition of abakili rice to every bag of imported rice.

I am guessing you do not understand the implication of passing a bill to MANDATE the addition to cassava flour to wheat production. So I will say yous spend a couple more minutes on google to get help with that.

Errrmmmm Kobo what sort of meat do Nigeria import. Do you mean Chicken and fish because Nigeria does not import Beaf.

Since 2003 or so, Nigeria has stop the importation of chicken. That is why most fast food shops have the smaller chicken than the very large ones. Moreover those imported meats are coated with a balm that they use on died people. IT is carcinogenic.

The fishes yes we are still working on that.

I bet even the wheats that are imported would contain some sort of preservatives to increase their shelf life.

Why would they not make the law mandatory. If they do not people like you kobo would keep buying imported rice and imported flour. At least they are not stopping you but trying reduce our over dependence on such product.

Here is the quote

The House of Representative on Wednesday rejected a bill seeking to make it mandatory for the inclusion of cassava in the[b] production of all flour products in Nigeria[/b].

thus those that are not produce in Nigeria can contain whole wheat if you so which. As far as the Nigerian production is concerned, it MUST contain cassava.

[quote author=ekt_bear]alj harem: I found this (among other things): http://www.livestrong.com/article/314844-cassava-as-diet-alternative-for-diabetics/

It actually appears that that rep might be mistaken. Seems to be beneficial rather than detrimental.

Still, what about freedom of choice? Why can't people choose what they want to eat?[/quote]thank you, most of this reps are just money hungry

Kobojunkie: You do not have to be a genius to understand what is wrong with what you have above, you know? You are told the bill will force the use of Cassava in production of bread. How can you have whole wheat bread when instead of wheat, a portion of itjavascript:void(0); is cassava. How the frell can you call that whole wheat?

My gosh, I can't image imagine what the texture of those muffins will be.

Thanks for bring out that point. Most of Nigerian produced flour are not made in Nigeria but imported. thus majority of our breads are made from imported wheat flour.

The only MAJOR flour mill is that of dangote, crown and Nigeria flour mill. All these procedure less than 60 % of the flours we use in Nigeria. Even Dangote imports some of the flours made from wheat.

Thus anyone that does not want cassava bread can buy wheat bread.

[quote author=ekt_bear]“30 to 40 per cent of Nigerians are diabetic and it will be unfair to compel them to eat cassava products since mostdiabetic patients are barred from consuming foods such as cassava,” he said.


Are diabetics advised by their doctors not to eat cassava?

Is there a doctor in the house? Or someone who can google the relationship between cassava and diabetes?[/quote]those law makers know nothing about diabetics or anything related to that field. Just cause one is diabetic does not mean one can not eat cassava product.

Those leaders are saying rubbish. Wheat/flour importation just like generator and cloths are huge business in Nigeria.

Moreover it seems like some does not want it to occur because of the money they would lose

amosy007: I want u to read this post by one Nigerian in diaspora

www.usafricaonline.com/2011/06/28/ken-okorienigerians-may-be-last-to-notice-new-viable-nigeria/

Thanks I see your point very clearly. I agree with you

[quote author=ekt_bear]Who wan die of diabetes just because GEJ wants to force you to eat cassava bread[/quote]what do you mean

Kobojunkie: Thank God ooo. See me see wahala?? Which one be to FORCE me to eat cassava bread? This yeye people wan ruin my diet? ROFLMAO!

If I wan chop whole wheat bread, I have the right to chop whole wheat bread. Abeg, President and his business dons should carry there Cassava hybrid bread go siddon somewhere ooo. I no even know say dem serious like this.

I am sure the president would not stop the production of whole wheat bread.

But a cheaper option is the cassava bread.

Dangote would still be producing flours made from wheat anyway