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@Abagworo, Mr Globe, Afam and co

I must admit I find something very fasinating about Igbo people that I wish other Nigerians can emulate

Ok take for example, when the north talks, they talk of Abuja and Kano

the the west talk, they talk of Ibadan and Lagos

when the east talk, they can easily talk of Rivers and Anambra but it does not stop there, It seems like you people inspire other states in the east to be at the same competitive level as the rest regardless of rivers and anambra. It is defiantly worth emulating.

While others are relaxed with what they have, you all are not, you believe it could be better.

I find this competitive nature very useful in Nigeria if Nigeria is to grow from a developing country to a developed country.

Pakavy: nigerian airways staff r d worse hit.is ova a decade the company got liquidated yet d retirees have'nt been paid a dime and yet___

Certainly right, I pity those people I must say

[quote author=onye_ngbu*]Keep fooling yourself. Whatever made you think you are speaking for some certain people?

So you seriously believe that people will come here and look for your opinion if they decide to protest for anything?[/quote]LOL dude there would be no protest. If there is anyother protest, it would unseat GEJ so shut it and enjoy your leaders you bestowed on us because of tribalism.

If you think in your widest dream that the country would protest with the SE and SS (miuns edo and delta) then you must be in lalaland

You can put my theory to the test

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oga jmaine

By Ochereome Nnanna
THE Coalition of Northern Leaders (made up of chairmen of the ten committees of politicians, professionals, academics and businessmen) leaders have met and issued what I choose to term as a “three-point agenda”.

These cover the areas of (a) what they described as President Jonathan’s “third term”/tenure elongation bid (b) north’s new campaign for more money from the oil wealth of Niger Delta and (c) their bid for the northernisation of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

In a statement, the group claimed that President Goodluck Jonathan is eyeing a “third term agenda/renewed tenure elongation”. According to them, the Justice Alfa Belgore Committee set up to “create a so-called new constitution” is aimed at getting for Jonathan a total of thirteen years in power.

Their math indicated that the “nearly two years he had served as part of the Yar’ Adua presidency” was the first term. He is serving his second term. If he contests in 2015 for a seven-year single term (which they say he is eyeing) that will be the dreaded “third term”. The nation, they boasted, “with the North at its head” will fight to stop Jonathan.

One thing is clear from this particular section of the northern agenda. The politics of 2015 is in play. It is not impossible that President Jonathan is eyeing another go for a second term even though he promised to run for only one term. Some of his kinsmen (such as Asari Dokubo) have opined he should be there for “eight years”. We have also seen the alignment of presidential power behind the candidature of Alhaji Bamanga Tukur for National Chairman of the People’s Democratic Party (PDP), which is bad news to former Vice President Atiku Abubakar’s ill-concealed presidential ambition.

Tukur in, Atiku out

With Tukur as National Chairman, Atiku’s presidential ambition will not fly since it will not be possible to have both president and the ruling party’s national chairman from the same state, tribe and hometown (Yola in Adamawa State). Atiku is clearly behind the assemblage of these strange bedfellows in the Coalition of Northern Leaders.

Raising the sceptre of “third term” was what he used to mobilise the north against former President Olusegun Obasanjo’s genuine third term ambition. Atiku could bank on the assumption that if he knocks aside GEJ’s perceived ambition his own chances will be enhanced.

But the assumption that the north “is at the head” of Nigeria is not borne out by facts of our recent political history. That is an anachronistic assumption of the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s when the north used military power to enforce its political agenda through the political parties. It is a notion often bandied about by General Ibrahim Babangida and Atiku but which no longer holds water. The current reality is that no region (not even the north) “is at the head”.

If the north were still at the head, it would have successfully brushed GEJ aside in the transitional politics of 2010 and 2011. But its chosen candidate, Atiku Abubakar, woefully lost the People’s Democratic Party (PDP) primaries while its main regional candidate, Major General Muhammadu Buhari, also lost the presidential election by a wide margin. No region is able to impose itself on the rest of the country in Nigeria of today.

If there is any single biggest factor that determines who occupies the presidential seat, it is the Nigerian Presidency or specifically the President in power. It is sad to admit this, but it is true. However, the Presidency or the President may not be able to change the Constitution to give himself additional term of office outside what is currently in the 1999 Constitution. That is because Nigerians (not the north, west or east) are genuinely against tenure elongation no matter who is involved or under whatever guise. The war on self-succession was invented in the southern media against northern despots such as General Yakubu Gowon, General Ibrahim Babangida and General Sani Abacha.

Ironically, when Babangida and Abacha were manipulating the system to transform into civilian presidents with unlimited tenures, it was northern politicians and some of their southern followers (Bukar Mandara, Wada Nas, Arthur Nzeribe, Orji Kalu, Wole Oyelese, Godwin Adzuana, Buba Galadima and so on) who pushed it. When Obasanjo failed to learn the lesson of history and tried his hand on the tenure elongation forbidden fruit, the north was as enthusiastic as others in the effort to stop him.

GEJ’s ambition and other variables: If GEJ wants to run for second term in 2015, we will look at his ambition on its merit. We will remember he promised to run for only one term. Then, we will check his performance (which today is still very poor and untenable). Other variables will also come into play: such as whether there is a regional gang-up to wrest power unfairly from a Minority president. We will also check whether those who are behind this gang-up are the perceived sponsors of the Boko Haram terrorism which is being used to make Nigeria ungovernable as some politicians from the north threatened when they were faced with defeat through the democratic processes in 201/2011.

If we find out that those ganging up are still the same people who failed in 2010/2011, we are likely to use the formula that led to their failure against them once again. But if we see something new, something more promising, something better and something more Nigerian and less sectional than what Babangida, Atiku and Adamu Ciroma concocted in 2010/2011 we will address it on its merit.

Our war against tenure elongation is not an ethnic or sectional battle. It is a genuine national agenda to preserve our democracy and ensure equitable access to power by all sections of the country. Tenure elongation will not be bad because it is a northerner seeking it and good because it is a southerner after it. It is not a war waged through hypocrisy or sectional fundamentalism. Nobody can use it to bamboozle Nigerians because when we are very familiar with it.

Three factors stand between President Jonathan and his possible candidature for president in 2015. The first is his public declaration to stand for only one term. It does not matter the negotiations or arm-twisting that forced him to give that undertaking. The second factor that could be used to knock aside this public undertaking will be his performance. We would know if he performed. It will have nothing to do with propaganda either from his spin doctors or his bloodthirsty opponents.

Stable power supply

It will be easy to determine. For instance, if we begin to experience stable power supply (not merely more megawatts of electricity); if the trains begin to run on all their old routes; if our agricultural achievements have moved to the level where we no longer import rice or food and if we have become self-sufficient in refined petroleum products, we will consider GEJ as the man who will take the country to the Promised Land. All these would have drastically reduced unemployment, crime and terrorism and more resources will be channelled to greater social welfare for all Nigerians. By 2015 GEJ would have been in power for nearly six years. That is enough time for us to make up our minds as to whether he is fit for a (second) term. If we remain where we are, then he should forget it.

And that is where the third option will offer itself more poignantly: the search for the messiah. When the search begins, we will not be looking in the direction of regional warlords and carpetbaggers whose domination of the system in times past spread poverty all over Nigeria.

We will not consider it in favour of those who incubated the children of the poor in the north as “almajiris” while they sent their own children to the best schools in the world so that they will return to rule those their fathers impoverished. It will not be for discredited neo-colonialists and religious extremists, whose only interest in Nigeria is the oil wealth of Niger Delta and the lion’s share of the National Cake.

We will be looking for those who can make Nigeria truly great. On Thursday we will bare our minds on the two remaining issues, especially the new ploy for the regionalisation of the FCT.

Robbed at gunpoint!

EVERY time I drive through our dark urban roads at night and see hundreds of young Nigerians hawking consumer goods to survive, I realise just how lucky Nigeria is to be blest with youth who would rather suffer and endanger their lives working to survive rather than steal.

On Tuesday, March 13th, at about 9.00pm, two young people in their late teens sidled up to my car at Fadeyi Bus Stop along the Ikorodu Expressway when there was a traffic snarl. They pointed pistols at me and ordered me to wind down my glass. They succeeded in making off with my Nokia N8 and my wallet containing about N3,000, my voters card, driver’s licence and staff identity card.

I have already sworn to an affidavit in court and have reported to the Onipanu Police Station where I was issued with a police report to retrieve my Glo GSM SIM card and my photo ID’s. We thank God for His continued protection over us and pray that government would help the youth of this country. Otherwise, we may get to the point where they will no longer be satisfied with taking our material possessions alone.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/03/norths-three-point-agenda-a-critique/

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Who da hell do you work for? For real![/quote]Meaning ?

deandavid: I cant talk for indigbo, but as for the south south delta, edo especialy there were protests against the fuel subsidy, leave dat dokubo, he was talking what he dnt knw, since his broda took that presidential seat, what has he done for the ordinary ijaw man to benefit from? Just leave dokubo, he probably has an oil well. Thats why he is making noise. My protest no be for gej o, its against all the political class, stranglin dis country with their greed. Me na urhobo o, very good ijaw ally,bt i tel u dis particular ijaw man don match line. How long shall we continue to be oppressd nd keep quite. THE TIME TO ACT IS NOW.

Bros, that was what we all though until some people tribalised the issue and it hurt all good thinking free minded Nigerians.

I was aware of Delta and Edo but others was just a disappointment.

To be honest, their would not another protest.

Aigbofa: Why don't you ever mind your own business. You've said worse about ibos on this website.

that was the past and i was only trying to get back at them back then but all I needed to do is understand them more

olayinka1987: Of course there are robbers in the West.... Actually, it wouldn't surprise if most of them were Igbo lol. useless people

can you shut it already

cantell: And there are no armed robbers in the west?
I thought i had seen all the foools in Nl? This one seems to make the word foool sound cheap.
The congo must be high on something cheap.

Ignore him, he is clearly a mumu that has no brain

daalu

bashr8: igbo people are not running away from igboland the population there is stil about 30 million which is approximate of our total population, we just dont want them investing in your pathetic lagos. stop posting ignorant statements.

About time you stop paying him attention.

Una don start with your rubbish again

Who the hell is this Olayinka mumu pesin

Prime007: You have the habit of covering you ignorance with sarcarstic remarks that are supposed to make you seem smart. The truth is you are not smart. In the federation that is Nigeria and as it applies to the FEDERAL budget, health IS the teaching hospitals. The states and local governments hold primary responsibility for first and second tier health care, you dunce.

Can you shut it and stop this rubbish you are typing

So what are federal owned hospitals for

why do doctors strike because lack of salary payments by the FG

Federal Medical Centre (Queen Elizabeth Specialist Hospital), Umuahia

Federal Medical Centre Azare. buchi etc

http://allafrica.com/stories/201112220543.html

olayinka1987: What "due" are you referring too? If Igbos want their due they should go back to the East and work for it. Put hand back in your pocket son. This is Nigeria, there are no handouts here for moochers and crybabies. Keep banging on about your "Independent Igbo Nation" lol. How will that work? So many Igbo people are too lazy to even speak the language. They'd rather speak Yoruba instead. . But hey, if by some stroke of luck you people do start this "Igbo Utopia" please remember to take your drug dealers, prostitutes, yahoo boys and layabouts with you. Don't leave them here in Yorubaland for us to deal with. Thank you

what do you think you are doing ? We are trying to build bridges not break them,

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New tribalist, hmmmmmmm

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Yes correct, I knew that this amnesty would open a pandora box and it did

Yes I support you on that.

bashr8: igbos are in yorubaland the same way yorubas are in igboland these dumb yorubas sould get off this thread and stop polluting it, these yorubas are all over onitsha ,aba and ph we igbos accomodate them in our land we dont harrass them in any way like they use opc to harras non yorubas yet these ungratefull dogs want to boast about accomodating people even when they dont contribute anything to the economy of igboland . ungratefull ofemmanus. meanwhile get off this thread it has nothing to do with you. your still poorer than igbo anyway even with our massive investments outside igboland.

PH is not Igboland, get off the high horse.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]The same was said about MEND.

We need to take our country back from terrorists by significantly reducing the availability of poor and uneducated people which they use as foot soldiers. This should be the first reasonable step, next we need to partner with our friends abroad to help us with intelligence tools to fight groups like Al Quaeda who are trying to turn our country to Afghanistan.

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TO KEEP NIGERIA ONE IS A TASK THAT MUST BE DONE [/quote]LOL My brother Ndu-chucks , me ya sa ?

Amnesty is a thing that has changed Nigeria political landscape.

The killing of anyone could be justified simply by advocating for something

MEND killed 20 on independences day, Boko haram took it the the next level

both should be stopped but WE should never support boko haram, because Islam does not preach what they are doing.

Mend still have a more legit cause for their fight than Boko haram

afam4eva: It's just like saying the part of Abuja that is the capital is the FCT and not other parts of Abuja or it's like saying the part of Ikeja that is the capital of lagos is Alausa and Ogba, Allen Avenue, Maryland and co. You see how silly this statement you guys have been saying.

You do have a point there, I must admit

bittyend: Where is the Southern Nigeria solidarity? I see the North talk with one voice all the time - despite the BH menace, and their religious imbroglio. But the same can't be said about the South. All I see is MEND and MASSOB solidarity, or Yoruba elders and Niger Delta elders solidarity - when is the South going to drop this stupidity - and speak with one voice?

there is nothing like southern Nigeria, Haba why are you people always talking like this. Ok let me tell you why there is nothing I mean absolutely nothing like southern Nigeria. For the last time.

1. Yoruba politics is completely different from the Igbos. Unless you want a fight, I would advice you not to put a hyena and a lion in a cage.

2. Everyone likes to claim, port harcourt that I knew of was Igboland until I was reading articles that claims otherwise.

3. Ijaws don't want to be under anyone's rule. In the north, it is not everyone that rules

4. Hausa is the main language, In the south rather than make Yoruba the main language, they are just fighting with the wind.

5. The ruling class are the fulani, the south the ruling class which is meant for the Itsekiris/Ijebu and Bini is been contested by Yorubas/ Ijaws and Igbos.

There is no way Southern Nigeria can ever ever be a reality. I certainly do not want it because of the oil wars

Moreover, in a country where yoruba and igbo can not see each other as equals is bad for all of us.

Bliss4Lyfe: Who said anything about tribal? We are talking equity and justice for all Nigerians, surely that is the way forward if any? As for meeting, did they send you because am far gone and u are in the distance in the dark.

LOL I can sense the joy in your comment as you parade the second Niger-bridge for us to see, I am happy as well.

This has never been about equality but about tribal reasons

Just send me your your yahoo mail so we can hook up. .

afam4eva: Lokoja is former capital of where? Are you dreaming? Btw, Calabar was the capital of the southern protectorate. That's why calabar is the way it is today. Even though it never grew as a commercial city.

How many Igbos are in Ogun and Ibadan compared to Yorubas in Aba, Onitsha and Port-hacourt? Even if they are more it is very minimal.

Was it not Ohaneze that said Igbos in Oyo are 1 million out of 5 million thus 20 % of the population

I wonder what to believe now are dayz

anyway , I would not advice you to talk the guy's comment serious because we have a lot of lunatics on Nairaland shouting Yorubaland and Igboland up and down.

Back to the topic, the Ikenna man is just paranoid

Bliss4Lyfe: ^Very funny and rich coming from Mr One Nigeria by all means necessary. So because GEJ is now President you want SNC and regionalism? lol!! The current set up is working just fine. The sub-divisions are happier than ever and that makes Ndi-igbo happy, at least they can breathe ease knowing Igbos are not out to dominate dem as previously believed.hahah

Good, then after GEJ don't come complaining I would think we want a developed country rather than tribal country

BTW, when are we going to meet na ?

afam4eva: How did i attack Yorubas. Yes, Lagos is Yorubaland but people migrate there because of it's status as the former federal capital. Why is that so difficult for you guys to digest.

Calabar, Lokoja were formal capital, so what is your point ?

Yes he is not even talking of Lagos here but talking of Ogun , Ibadan etc

Forget Lagos for now.

deandavid: lets not continue talking and asking God to save us, lets ACT NOW.how many of una ready to die? because blood must flow, lets go to dat national assembly in mass, if una ready we can be 10 in number, lets WALK NAKED IN DAT NASS AS FORM OF PROTEST, they could cal us mad men,but its not possible to have 10 to 20 clean naked madmen with placards at the same time, they could shoot at us,am ready to die,how many of una ready to die? If u r ready SIGN UR NAME HERE.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are no protesting, they are on their right to steal as much as they want since Asari and Ohaneze tribalise the only detribalised Occupation we had in Nigeria in recent years

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! we are not protesting.

probably: they will defenitely have everyones support. This is so very sad. Where is NLC? Where is occupy naija? Ahhhhhh this is becoming to much to bear. By the time the sh*t hits the fan...the centre will defenitely not hold. God we commit this country to you

be deceiving yourself, the only reason people would occupy Nigeria again is to unseat GEJ. Fact

I wonder why the young generation cannot read political moves

If there is a protest again !!!! GEJ is going!!!!! fact

It is the best interest of the tribalistic people not to start a protest.

I am just saying, A word is enough for the wise but if fit put my theory to practise

[quote author=Dudu_Negro][QUOTE]When others – South South, South West, North, etc are busy expressing their love for the nation by preserving themselves, the Igbo profess and express their love for the same nation by destroying self. [/QUOTE]

Where is Eze Igbo? You and I had this discussion not long ago where I pointed out the resolve by the Northerner to stick everyone else as a sub-division of their legacy region. We in the South love to label them backward and uneducated, but it is obvious that they set the trail they want others to follow and sheepishly in our over educated Southern minds we follow the direction of the uneducated Northerner.

Look at what your brother did in the quote above. He sub-divided West, South and East. . . but left North in its wholeness. If this stupidity continues you can rest assure that the Northerner will again be in Aso in 2015. This is districting tactic and when even a veteran well educated and articulate journalist as the author fails to correct the error, then I don't know who will.

I have made posts and shared with my Yoruba people to desist from using SW when talking about Yorubaland. I see certain things when I visit Hausa forums and I bring it here to NL to shape our awareness. . . . I cant force action but I can raise awareness. Eze, share with your people to abandon the SE subdivision and go back to using East when discussing Igbo politics.[/quote]LOL I though I was the only one

afam4eva: It's funny when you people replace Lagos with Yorubaland or south-west. You don't see Igbos and other tribes in record numbers in other SW states as it is in Lagos. Even Lagos is infested with people from Ekiti, oyo, Ogun and Osun.

But Lagos is yorubaland, what are you talking about. Attack the person rather then yoruba people

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Bliss, I was for one Nigeria but apparently it cannot work.

Lets do regionalism or SNC and one so people can know there regions value and work harder

Apparently GEJ and co don't want that,of which I do not know.

I would prefer the Old east with part of delta state etc so with the same culture can move together in Oneness

thus the problem of a 60 years old bridge would not be a problem facing easterners today.

I mean must the bridge collaspe before the FG does something about it ? Our government have failed us.

naijaking1: The Nigerians who demonstrated during the subsidy removal, the NLC, the ASUU, the market women, all should band up and keep demonstrating until the rogue lawmakers stop paying themselves disproportionalty huge salaries. This is about fairness and conscience.

Can you stop that, Please stop that because it shows you do not know the reason for the demonstration at the first place but just chose to be on the government side simply because GEJ is IJAW mixed with Igbo.

The people that died were NEVER PAID

The people that burn politicians houses, protest in the oil cabal houses and traditional rulers house WERE NEVER PAID

why the hell would I pay someone to protest at the front of my house. It is a no brainer

Again the only reason why you did not protest was tribalistic reason, Well there you have it

We even protest in front of Tinubu's house calling him Ole aka thief and attacking ACN leaders thinking it was the revolution to turn the country around for good more like China.

So good luck with your protest, Never would SW, MB, NE, NW edo, cross river and delta join una again

Never

[size=14pt]Dey deceive una self say there should be a demonstration.

Any non-Igbo or Ijaw that demonstrate must be a lunatic. Mumu people they never ever learn

rubbish country[/size]

[quote author=pretty_boi]I totally agree.....Nigerians need to declare war against these so called. "leaders."[/quote]Is that what Nigerians did 2 months back ?

What did they call us, ? Tribal people, they hate GEJ etc even though Tinubu's wife and other ACN leaders were attacked in Ibadan

even though IBB offices were burnt

even though the emir palaces was burnt etc they still called us tribal

Abeg, there would not be any demostration ever again.