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Can you give a break down of your monthly expenditure so some of us can include it in our cash flow.
Also what exactly do you need money for ? School fees or accommodation or feeding etc
HaneefahRN: I pray you marry a true liability and give birth to liabilities then you will be able to give us a good definition of liability from experience. Liability isn't just about being legally responsible for someone, it is something like a parasite that holds one back or hinders ones progress, something of no value but to destroy. They will come here to run mouth, how many of you are even responsible for yourselves talk more a woman or another human. Irresponsible fellows who don't know how their wives and children feed and cloth will come here to say rubbish.
Going by your definition, children are liabilities too. And I'm just hearing for the first time it's children that take care of the sick father and husband. The woman that took hold of the household, wakes up early in the morning to pray for and starts her day with cooking and preparing everybody including the husband for school and work, goes to work (for those working), comes back to start another set of chores in the house even with this most women contribute to family finances and she is being refereed to as a liability?!
I pray God gifts you a liability, someone that will add absolutely nothing to you, a parasite. We know most of you talk from the experience you had from your dads and mums.
Ywan. Why so confrontational? Re-read my post slowly
Again not all are liabilities certainly not women that do house chores etc BUT MAJORITY OF THEM IN THIS MODERN AGE ARE LIABILITIES
A BABY MAMA IS A LIABILITY A LAZY GIRL FRIEND IS A LIABILITY
Btw why are so insecure ? Are you a liability? Check yourself
Some are but majority on modern women are liabilities we men can't do with out
Lets define a Liability
the state of being legally responsible for something.
Are men not responsible for women ? Unlike kids that are assets because you know they might take care of you when you are old. Old get old with you and have no improvement to give especially those feminist.
I pity any man that marries a feminist. Your life will we wreaked before you know it.
macof: Akiolu never said bini own Lagos... what he is saying in that video in essence is that the oba of bini is honoured during the coronation rite at Enuwa.
Also, the video is incomplete, if you watch the complete video(below), Akiolu said it clean clear that bini doesn't own lagos
aribisala0: What is noteworthy is there is no documented account of this Nri story before 1960 ,WHY? The truth is you folk have no history and now resort to faking one
That's the reality
@ op just because one or two words are similar dies not mean ebira has elements of igbo
Example
Alubosa same in Yoruba and Hausa arewa same in Yoruba and Hausa
Does that mean Yoruba or Hausa have elements in each other
Aworis where farmers and fisher men. Eko means farmland because pepper and cassava where the main crops cultivated there. Now this can mean war camp etc in bini.
Now my question
What is the meaning of bini and why was it changed from ogodomigo to bini
ritababe: you simply lack wisdom, or u didn't know Lagos was under benin before? which Lagos are u talking about?
Lol I am a true lagosian and Lagos was NEVER UNDER the benin. Stop smoking. My people have called akiolu to order. The monarch was bini and I am from that family. Today we are yorubas, we have always been part of the Yoruba nation. It is you people that lack common sense by denying your history and heritage.
Obaluf0n: a major political unit having a territory of great extent or a number of territories or peoples under a single sovereign authority; especially: one having an emperor as chief of state
I'll get to various definitions of what an empire is and not waste any time on side comments.
- According to Michael Doyle, for instance, empire is 'a relationship, formal or informal, in which one state controls the effective political sovereignty of another political society’; ‘a system of interaction between two political entities, one of which, the dominant metropole, exerts political control over the internal and external policy – the effective sovereignty – of the other, the subordinate periphery’.
- Stephen Howe’s definition makes an attempt to combine the defining qualities of political hierarchy and cultural diversity: ‘an empire is a large, composite, multi-ethnic or multinational political unit, usually created by conquest, and divided between a dominant center and subordinate, sometimes far distant, peripheries.’
- a major political unit having a territory of great extent or a number of territories or peoples under a single sovereign authority; especially: one having an emperor as chief of state.
I italicized the key components of each definition: great territorial extent, a large composite multi ethnic and multinational unit, control of other states by a power in the centre.
-- Did Oyo have a great territorial extent, yes; did Oyo have a large composite multi ethnic and multi national unit, yes; did Oyo exert control on other states by the power in the centre, yes.
-- Did Bini have a great territorial extent, no; did Bini have a large composite multi ethnic and multi national unit yes but not large; did Bini exert control on other states by the power in the centre, yes. Bini was never an empire in the true sense of it. Let us look at Lagos to begin with, Bini's presence was on a small patch of land and the awori were never conquered. Lagos history states that the Awori folks willingly gave that patch of land to the Bini soldier and it wasn't acquired by context - Bini on its patch of land was doing its thing which was to ensure of Bini sea traders/travellers more. In the Delta/Onitsha area, what operated was a case of Bini emigrants moving to other places in this region to assume political posts which created a kin-type connection with Bini. I do not know what operated in Akoko Edo but nevertheless, Bini's area of influence wasn't only meagre it was not an empire in any or true sense of it when juxtaposed with other numerous empires in Nigeria, Africa and all over the world.
That line is immaterial and played. One of my lecturers, a northerner, during my MA days played this card but to me it made and still makes no sense -- so Emire Sanusi mouthing it means nothing, many research papers local and foreign; as well as cultural realities point to something very different. A single nomenclature for a people does not mean they're similar or more unified than the next. Disabuse your mind from 'They saw themselves as related but different.' All major Yoruba towns and their appendage towns all know they're tied together by Ife and the replete cultural similarities shared across board. You probably need to read The Heritage of Oduduwa: Traditional History and Political Propaganda among the Yoruba Author(s): R. C. C. Law which expounded on Prof. Akinjogbin's 'ebi theory' of the Yoruba which your Bini kingdom a party to. You also need to review Samuel Johnson's History of Yoruba which described the practicality of this ebi theory with all Yoruba towns seeing themselves as one and Ife being the nucleus of their world which in turn led to the complete sacking of Owu town when it went against this socio-political system.
The Ekiti-Parapo wars which ignorant folks often cite as the proof of Yoruba's never being one was a war for balance of power. All towns, super and dependencies were all under the clutches of Oyo for centuries. The collapse of Oyo gave them freedom, something they've long lost and the rise of Ibadan trying to put them in the clutches of oppression and take away their freedom drove everyone up the wall and blocs were formed to ensure balance of power and put an end to any all powerful town rising to the point of controlling all Yoruba towns.
Oyo Yoruba was not standardized, we are presently NOT speaking/using Oyo Yoruba. You probably need to go to Oyo or Ibadan or Iseyin and any other Oyo enclave to hear how they speak and see if it is different from the national Yoruba we use or not. Standardized, yes. Standardized Oyo, No.
Please get rid of the thoughts of Yoruba folks never being one. What changed in 19th century was the spread of Yoruba nomenclature from being just an Oyo name to include all other towns -Ijebu, Egba, Ife, Ilesa, Ekiti and Ondo. Either we had/have the name or not, from Oyo to Egba, to Ilesa, to Ekiti to Ondo to Ijebu cultural affinities abound in excess and Ife still remains the nucleus of their world.
The emboldened clearly isn't a feature of an empire but a diplomatic gesture and agreement between two powers. Getting lots of freedom to operate internally isn't a feature of an empire, I'm sorry. This is what Bini's kingdom was based on and it doesn't fit the bill of how empire building and sustenance operated around the world. Kingdoms forming part of an empire were subjected to the whims and caprices of the emperor and his representative in this place.
I will give you an example.
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Bini did not have any 'swathes' but patches and pockets of lands mostly given or originally unoccupied. Please cite one paper proving Bini had any reach in Ijebu country. Ijebu traders/travellers may have had contact with Bini but Bini never occupied any patch of Ijebu. There were military skirmishes but Owo was never conquered by Bini; the traces of Bini we see in Owo today was because of an Owo prince who ran off to Bini and lived there for many years and upon ascending the throne brought Bini stuff with him and of course some type of relationship between Owo and Bini. This prince/king was Osogboye.
All of these imaginary Bini conquests are not corroborated anywhere in the history of these Yoruba towns you listed. Why does Bini history alone seem to be confined and find its own sources within its own enclave with no corroboration and affirmation anywhere. This is similar to the Izoduwa story which began with your last Oba's bruised ego during the western region days while the Portuguese records gotten from Oba Ozolua in the 15th century says otherwise.
Any ways, you may want to list out empires you're familiar with around the world, study them and see if Bini fit into the bill of what made these empires become regarded as 'empires'.
Enjoy the rest of your evening.
God bless you. Egbon I no even get there time. Lol
I don tire for this nl bini warriors. They just decieve themselves. Please let them keep making themselves happy.
Op
Benin was the largest empire in Africa it's wall stretched from ghana to Cameroon
KingOvoramwen1: [[s]quote author=aljharem post=58535991]I don't even think some of you know what it takes to be yoruba ? You think it is just a corroboration of different people of languague etc
To be yoruba, You most be of common history
Yoruba is a Nation !
In this Nation there was an Empire. A true Empire from west of Nigeria to Togo even the Ga people of Accra
The Empire was called Oyo Empire
In this Nation, there were Kingdoms.
Ibadan, Illorin, Eko, Akure, Ugbo, Mahin, Ekiti,Jebba, Ijebu, Popo (togo) Dahomey (Benin republic) etc just to mention a few
Some of these kingdom has other kings under them and some where playing homeage to the Alafin
Benin kingdom is no different from Ijebu kingdom
Both had other kings paying homage to them,
In fact Ijebu kindom was better as they has structure to prove it.
The word Oba is PURELY A YORUBA WORD ADOPTED BY THE BINI. Every yoruba king is titled Oba even to Togo and Niger state. These are places Binis could only dream of getting to.
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KingOvoramwen1: What is that clown typing up there?....... ogogoro nor good OOO
I don't even think some of you know what it takes to be yoruba ? You think it is just a corroboration of different people of languague etc
To be yoruba, You most be of common history
Yoruba is a Nation !
In this Nation there was an Empire. A true Empire from west of Nigeria to Togo even the Ga people of Accra
The Empire was called Oyo Empire
In this Nation, there were Kingdoms.
Ibadan, Illorin, Eko, Akure, Ugbo, Mahin, Ekiti,Jebba, Ijebu, Popo (togo) Dahomey (Benin republic) etc just to mention a few
Some of these kingdom has other kings under them and some where playing homeage to the Alafin
Benin kingdom is no different from Ijebu kingdom
Both had other kings paying homage to them,
In fact Ijebu kindom was better as they has structure to prove it.
The word Oba is PURELY A YORUBA WORD ADOPTED BY THE BINI. Every yoruba king is titled Oba even to Togo and Niger state. These are places Binis could only dream of getting to.
Ade means crown, Likes of Adesuwa etc mean crown. Even the German Adeliade is royality
I can go on an on. Yorubas say "Even if you are lied to, you are suppose to use your number 6"
Abeg I don tire. Thank God Itsekiris and Ilaje have left your deluded selves.
Keep on decieving yourselves that Bini kingdom was the greatest even to Austria
How can an empire of the 1800's lose so much language, culture among others
How can an empire be subject to ile ife ?
How can an empire speak another language other than benin
How can empire be boost of conquering a land that welcome them rather than fight. Aka Lagos
Look, I am a true lagosian from bini oba ado genealogy.
1. Eko mean war camp in bini but mean farmland in awori dialect. In fact where is palace is located is can pepper farmland
2. Bini kingdom has always been under Yoruba until the last oba that died . He twisted you people's history and the younger generation don't know anything
3. Ask yourself, if you conquered these places, why are they not subject to your oba ? His rule ends in bini , he is not even respected in places like Auchi or gelegele
My advice to people of ile ibinu is to go back to their history before they lose more. Already the land is getting smaller by the day with igbake coming from the east, akoko from the west, ebira from the north and ijaw of gelegele from the south. More curse on those that distort history
Btw after akiolu the bastard, just pray that likes of me don't become king because I will completely remove any rubbish bini from Lagos complete and teach the next generation how binis where the bastard sons that got lost in ile ibinu. I will also distort history
Imagine the mumus claiming sango, ogun, okun eye etc to be bini.
Look yorubas we don't lie, Just because Sango is nupe does not make us less. Till today the nupe respect us as we don't distort our history to favour us.
Ehiscotch: It is so pathetic how FFK is trying to hard to polarise the public along religious and ethnic divides. Heating up the polity with delicate issues like this. How can the FG islamize Nigeria with the two years it has left? Such a drastic move cannot come to fruition through the "FG" as this is a function of the NASS. Keep telling gullible Nigerians what they want to hear. Unless, the FGis willing to come to my house and force me to accept islam and pledge allegiance .
20CRATES: Akoko Ondo are Yoruba, although there were a few villages there that were speakers of edoid dialects but who have since converted, or are currently in the process of doing so.
Akoko Edo is where things get reaally interesting. It is made up of: * Etunos (who live in Igarra the LGA HQ). The Etunos are basically Egbiras who just go by a different name to be fancy because they are not in "North" like Egbira Okene people lol. * Okpameris, The biggest group * Yorubas * Unemes (Believed to be migratory blacksmiths) - some of them claim origin to as far away as awka. * Ososo * Sasaru - Enwan Etc.
In short, a tower of Babel , linguistically speaking. In Akoko Edo, you can encounter 5 languages within a 1km radius, or even different sections of the same village speaking different languages. During the times of the Western Nigeria internecine wars, they were one of the badly affected groups. They suffered some heavy Ibadan raiding, this was a period of high mobility, many Yorubas settled there and began to influence them, lifestyles and linguistically. A lot of them picked up the names of Yoruba war generals, notable people etc.
Then the Nupe Jihadists came along raiding and pillaging, and also left their legacy, especially in the aspects of traditional titles and rulership (although now, the nupe influence has almost vanished), you can still see hints of it in some last names lake Dawudu, Bakare, etc.
Starting from early colonial times, there was an additional influx of early Yoruba christian missionaries, Clerks, office/Government workers, etc into the area, they became influenced even more. The ones that retained their differences earlier all converted to Yoruba names. They all began to speak Yoruba language - which was honestly more of a plus to them naturally speaking, because of the regions extremely high linguistic diversity, Yoruba made it easier for them to relate within themselves and with their Yoruba neighbors.
Then, many migrated to major Yoruba urban centres and returned home with even more dynamics, influencing what was on ground in the villages even more.
That was how they became a more or less Yoruba people, although with ancestral very very old edoid roots. Roots that are honestly not even connected with Benin. But the original edoid stock of people.
Lumig: This is the kind of educative thread that I wish it lasts as many weeks as possible, though without the insults. I have now known much about the Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi, cos it has really perturbed me why they are so detached from the rest of their kins in the south west. Keep it up guys
Politics › Re: Yorubas Are The Most Industrious,Richest & Educated Tribe in Nigeria & Africa by aljharem(m): 8:03am On Jul 24, 2017
