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nyben4eva:
What makes the map useless and why should he remove Benin and Warri?

because to igbos Midwest is biafra

20CRATES:
What exactly would you like me to say about them?
Binis are like 30% of Edo population...Give or take a few percentage points.

Your theories are very plausible. I want to find out how bini language and by extension urhobo have similar words as yorubas

Example

Yoruba - bini- urhobo - english

Omo -omo-omo- child
apata-akpata----------stone or hill

Ologbo-ologbo-ologbo - cat

Etc just to mention a few

20CRATES:
Akoko Ondo are Yoruba, although there were a few villages there that were speakers of edoid dialects but who have since converted, or are currently in the process of doing so.

Akoko Edo is where things get reaally interesting.
It is made up of:
* Etunos (who live in Igarra the LGA HQ). The Etunos are basically Egbiras who just go by a different name to be fancy because they are not in "North" like Egbira Okene people lol.
* Okpameris, The biggest group
* Yorubas
* Unemes (Believed to be migratory blacksmiths) - some of them claim origin to as far away as awka.
* Ososo
* Sasaru - Enwan
Etc.

In short, a tower of Babel , linguistically speaking. In Akoko Edo, you can encounter 5 languages within a 1km radius, or even different sections of the same village speaking different languages.
During the times of the Western Nigeria internecine wars, they were one of the badly affected groups. They suffered some heavy Ibadan raiding, this was a period of high mobility, many Yorubas settled there and began to influence them, lifestyles and linguistically. A lot of them picked up the names of Yoruba war generals, notable people etc.

Then the Nupe Jihadists came along raiding and pillaging, and also left their legacy, especially in the aspects of traditional titles and rulership (although now, the nupe influence has almost vanished), you can still see hints of it in some last names lake Dawudu, Bakare, etc.

Starting from early colonial times, there was an additional influx of early Yoruba christian missionaries, Clerks, office/Government workers, etc into the area, they became influenced even more. The ones that retained their differences earlier all converted to Yoruba names.
They all began to speak Yoruba language - which was honestly more of a plus to them naturally speaking, because of the regions extremely high linguistic diversity, Yoruba made it easier for them to relate within themselves and with their Yoruba neighbors.

Then, many migrated to major Yoruba urban centres and returned home with even more dynamics, influencing what was on ground in the villages even more.

That was how they became a more or less Yoruba people, although with ancestral very very old edoid roots. Roots that are honestly not even connected with Benin. But the original edoid stock of people.

Can you talk more about bini people. History

Nigerians from the east are a very jealous set of people. Looool

But it does not matter

The same jealousy led nnamdi axikwe to lock up awolowo even after agreeing to go with one voice.

Lumig:
This is the kind of educative thread that I wish it lasts as many weeks as possible, though without the insults. I have now known much about the Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi, cos it has really perturbed me why they are so detached from the rest of their kins in the south west. Keep it up guys

Yes but they are not so detached

Trottle:
Yoruba land does not include Jebba. Get your facts right sir.

Please who is the king in jebba

What language is spoken in jebba

What is the meaning of jebba in Hausa or any other language.

So many mumus dey this forum

AdeizaPaul:
There are also some Yoruba villages in Edo state like Egbeta, Olumoye, Gbelemotin, Madagbayu, Agopanu etc.
And some that are mixed Yoruba-Benin like Usen, Ugbogui, Siluko and Uhen.

even okada town speak people speak mostly Yoruba

Probz:
You just said Itsekiri people are Yoruba as of today.

when I used Yoruba I meant oodua and yes they are oodua as of today

I would urge all yorubas to stop comments on this thread

Lol @ afonjaheadhunt. Stu. Pid igbo not. Una go learn sha

Probz:
you wan claim Itsekiri now? O di egwu.

I never claim itsekiri

I want black man used!

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GistFullGround:
Why are you crying over split milk?
Who else is the Oba of Lagos, is it Adebiyi or Akiolu?

Oba Akiolu is the custodian of Lagos and there is nothing anybody can do about it until his passing on.

And by the way, NOBODY knows you in Lagos, you are so insignificant!

I agree that as far as nl is concern, I am insignificant but as far as Lagos is concern I doubt it.

This is where I stop, yes Lagos is bini land, igbos developed it and is never a Yoruba land.

You can also try you luck by contesting for the kingship since you are bini

So many stupid people. Dele momodu is Edo and bini to be precise. How is he Yoruba.


He is way better than Chua Achebe

history2902:
Dude, you are not making any sense, history is not something which you can change according to your mood.
Yoruba is not even a people, the name "yoruba" is not even as old as the name "nigeria".
Please I gave you the feinition of the word "History", so stop using that word frivolously.
You really make me laugh when you claim: "As of today we are yorubas" . That is just like me claiming "As of today I am the last of the mohicans" or "as of today I am prince Efosa of Edinbourg".

Dude read well,

Bini and Esan(which is what binis call ishans) have always been part and parcel of ile ife history. Yoruba is coined for people of similar history and way of life NOT LANGUAGE . This is where binis for it VERY WRONG. If it is language, akoko, ijebu, awori, owo, ekiti etc would have never been part of the Yoruba ethic stock today because our language id TOTALLY different from Yoruba but we all have a common history from ile ife and that is why we adopted YORUBA as our ethnic group.

Today you would find people from auchi, okada etc claiming Yoruba because they have a better understanding than people like you

history2902:
Once again which history are you quoting ? How does it even make sense that you would claim that "Itsekiri, awori, ilaje, akoko" are "yoruba" ?
For example the land of the Itsikeri doesn't even border the south-west. Historical documents show Lagos as being part of the Benin empire. The only thing all these ethnic groups have in common with the "yoruba" are Benin costums which those calling themselves "yoruba" took from the Benin Empire. Is it time yet for me to point out the fact that Edos have no difficulty understanding "yoruba" dialects, my mother doesn't have any difficulty speaking yoruba and she told me that yoruba is a mild corruption of Edo.

Thank God your mother understands Yoruba, so why is she not Yoruba. Is bini not Yoruba ?

I also understand Yoruba because of the dialect. Tell your mother to go back to her root, ifa, sango, ogun etc

We are Yoruba as far as Yoruba minorities are concern. It is a privilege and an honour to be Yoruba and not any other group. Ask any awori, ilaje etc

Itsekires have paid visit to ile ife. How more binis. Tell her to find her root

GistFullGround:
Why wont I?
Is it because the story does not favor you or what you believe?
Are you trying to say you know more than the custodian of Lagos?

Please who is the custodian of Lagos ? It is now even akiolu's turn but the adebiyi's turn but he was forced on us by tinubu so what are you saying.

Get real, when push comes to shove, we know our people and our people know us

history2902:
So basically, aljharem, unless someone claims the story which was told to you, you will not believe. A long time ago I showed you precolonial maps as proof and now you are hearing the King of Lagos giving his testimony and still you continue claiming your disproved story.
I bet that even if I invent a time machine and take you to the past you will still not belive your "lying eyes".
Get real.

So because the oba including myself have our origin from edo it means we are edo ?

Again unless bini is Yoruba, we would claim edo. As of today we are yorubas. And yes if you are presently in Lagos, I can take you to the oba's palace and show you my history.

history2902:
OK tell me what you are quoting as your "history" ?
You have to distinguish between made up stories and History.

History has it that binis esan were all yorubas so if they now want to go their own way, they should leave others out of it. Itsekiri, awori, ilaje, akoko, tax are all yorubas as of today.

history2902:
Ijaws are indigenous to cross river, they have no legitimate claim to any land elsewhere and certainly not land in Edo state.

There fuc.king business as far as no inch of yorubaland or edoland is taken. I am fine

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history2902:
@kongquest
Perharp it is time for "yoruba" to stop claiming people of the ancient Benin empire. The "yoruba" have been trying to claim Benin City, but they were unsucessful, now they are going after the Edos in the Delta and elsewhere whose land was part of the Benin empire and whose people most likely migrated from Benin City. For your information, Itsekeri and Urhobos are Edo, they have nothing to do with "Yoruba".
I know you guys are making these claims because you want to lay claim to Niger Delta oil. But enough is enough.
What annoys me is that many Edos who just happen to speak yoruba dialects now think that they are yoruba.

So now we are edo ?

I think you are sick. If edo does not know their origin, we lagosians, itsekiri, akoko, ofosu, etc know our history

Efewestern:
Migrates? lol funny

Every ethnic group migrated from somewhere, itsekiri migrated from Yoruba, urhobo from edo, but that doesn't mean they don't own that land.

I have some ijaw who are ondo indigene. ijaw territory in edo and ondo is surrounded by itsekiri, ilaje and urhobo, how they intend carving those states out will be a big issue.

we will leave that for another day.

You have a point but crave out is a no no as far as yorubas are concerned. Ijaws in ondo migrated of recent and they will be chased out

Believe him at your own pearl.

eyeview:
You will carry a baby for 9 months, go thru a very painful near death delivery of a son.
You will sacrifice so much of yourself to provide for him.
You will train him thru school to man hood.
He will then marry a girl who will turn his heart away and call u a witch. You will become paralysed even before your old age and she will drag you thru the floor and call you a witch for being paralyzed.
And your son will encourage her because he doesn't want to be a foolish man by your standards. Amen.

AMEN FOR HER !!!!

I can't imagine a woman i marry treating my mother like that, I literally kill her, cut her up, put her in a polyethylene bag and throw her in a canal.

After allowing dogs to rape her. !!!!!

walemoney007:
Guy e b like say you don live with the ikales,apois and ilajes before I don miss that pupuru

Asun
Ewa alagbado
ewa oniisu
efo riro
ewuro
efo elegusi
omi obe
ata didi
Garri ijebu (igbos copies gari from yoruba and add Palm oil)
Wara tutu/wara dindin
obe elepo
Okada gbona.

hedonistic:
Its sickening on so many levels. That being said, we have to pray against these kinds of things. MOST men would tune off permanently from a wife (that they suffered and spent so much to legally and traditionally marry) getting raped in their presence. Whether they continue with the marriage or divorce the woman is irrelevant. Staying is even worse.

It destroys a man's psyche and emotional balance, probably far more than the woman's. This is not about fairness, empathy, logic, or rationality or whatever. Just forget it.

Again, this is not something to trivialise or joke about. We must pray to avoid this life altering situation.

aptly put.

O.k. I see. If that is the case (empires) then Lagos is part of benin, ondo and co.

Well the ijaws we have in ondo are migrates! !! . I for one know that,

Abeg grant biafra. We don't want again

onuwaje:
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that map is not even too accurate as edo is land locked.

Also

Efewestern:
my brother I tire.... am not itsekiri, but I don't support nonsense.. the map even lump ilaje and a huge part of itsekiri as Ijaw land, all in a bid to connect with the little ijaw enclave in ondo and edo.

the guy you quoted knows nothing about Niger Deltans.

don't mind the mumu.

Btw are you Agbahro or uwie

hammer6:
How do u separate Itsekiri and Ijaw land?

Are u on drugs? There land is mixed with Ijaw still all the way in Ondo, Lagos upto Ghana.

Even to ivory coast and gambia

Stupid igbo boy