₦airaland Forum

EmeeNaka:
Since I came to Lagos, I have never had peace of mind.
60% of Lagos is a heavy slum, filled with rich men and poor men.
Aside money and pussy( prostitutes), nothing should take anybody to Lagos.

but 70% is igbo na i dont understand some of you

PapaBrowne:
This platform is filled with children!!

Everything is emotional. Zero rationalization.

Igbos want Biafra but they don't want to leave Nigeria.

Yorubas want Igbos to leave Lagos but they don't want them to have Biafra.

It just goes to show nobody is thinking with the smart mass in thier skull.

Stop saying that, igbos can have biafra. We yorubas want biafra. We support it and pray for it.

Leave Yoruba land and have biafra

The bone of contention is that we (Lagos island) are yorubas and not and never benins we would never be, same goes to itsekiri people and akoko edo. It is bini that needs to find their root. Stupid pride

shaddoww:
I am very very impressed, as a yoruba, I feel proud of wat u guys are doing, cos it takes Unity of purpose for u to agree like dis, though a lot of Yorubas are nt openly showing u support bt I can tell u, majority of d Yorubas too want to go, don't mind dos yeye ones dat call themselves social media influencers, dey av been bought n dey are only influencing their pockets. I just wish dat my igbo brothers can stop dis tribal fight with we Yorubas, ignore wat u see on social media, dos ones only make abt 2% of our population. As the SUN as already RISEN from the EAST, my hope is that it can SET in the WEST. Then d sky will be our limit, it's nt compulsory we stay together in d South, but we can join hands to fight a good course. #WE ARE ALL BIAFRIANS

Very correct those online mumus don't represent us. I support biafra but we are not all Biafrains

Yes we support

gregyboy:
yorubas will never agree to d truth never. oni of ife is oba son i realized dat is not just a particular dat is ruling the kingdon that means family could still be added unlike d benin dat is only one family and it cant be changed it sweet me d way yorubas tries to twist d history d name alone yoruba means cunny deceit so i bet u u all are leaving to ur name

even if you are a complete illiterate and completely daft I mean no sense at all you cannot see that your Oba title is Yoruba, omo ni oba which means prince. Please what is the meaning of bini in bini language. Why do bini people near Yoruba names. You use your sense and don't let the immediate past oba lies keep on

I dont understand why people like Adam Yusuf are not arrested !!! What a country

If only they knew how ungrateful the people they are helping are.

lx3as:
I wonder o!
In fact I don't know what these people do smoke; Oga (master, brother) mi, 'Oga! was gotten from 'organizer'? They argue everything forgetting that pidgin makes use of very flexible Yoruba language and it was more prominent in Lagos and Warri areas at the beginning...
There are lot of Yoruba words in pidgin to the extent that Igbos now think it's their words, eg. Oga, pele, patapata, abi, egusi, oyinbo, se, Sebi, nko, de, ti, ki lo, omo, sisi, etc

You know igbos love to claim

When we even have names like ogayemi ogakunle eye


Very soon, na igbo get agbada and agbero

frankdoz23:
all hail Biafra! come may 30th, no movement in pH, calabar, asaba, warri, akwa ibom and yenagoa! afonjas clear road on may 30th or have yourself to blame.

Lol warri ke? . I am coming out o

We don't use budget again in Nigeria. Imagine a country's budget not passed in end of May. What a government

KingOvoramwen1:
Sango sef dey run...... He thunder na tickle for OBA Body

No bini person will say such rubbish

SIRmanjar:
OBA of OBAS..We the descendants of Benin royal house in Lagos royal house hail thee..
See juju wey full im body..How breeze go dey touch oba with all this bid for im body.

keep decieving yourself

Bini una see una life. Keep changing your history others will Change it for you

Probz:
It's nonsense that you don't know agidi and oka are used in Yoruba being the afonja supremacist you are.

I wonder when Oyibo became Igbo word Why would you call a foreigner Onye Igbo/Ibo. [size=14pt]That is a big fat lie[/size]. Please Odumchi and co, Know your history and culture well before discussion in cultural issues because an ignoramus would actually believe you all.

The closest was ufeolorun

Oyinbo literal meaning is pealed back honey/ Peeled skinned people which is the termed by yorubas to address light skin forienger According to Debra L. Klein

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sugexp=frgbld&gs_nf=1&cp=13&gs_id=1e&xhr=t&q=oyinbo+yoruba&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbm=bks&source=og&sa=N&tab=wp&ei=Ke5lT8b3GubN0QWbt8ybCA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=83eff03ccb2cc236&biw=1043&bih=558

This word Oyinbo is not only used in Nigeria but also by Crelos people in Serri leano and according to them, they got it from the yoruba word

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=nAQIcqwGqTEC&pg=PA80&dq=oyinbo+yoruba&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5e9lT6aKNtK10QW75qWSCA&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=oyinbo%20yoruba&f=false

Oyibo is an Igbo way of saying Oyinbo which was originally never an Igbo word. Lets get our facts right here.

Oye ebeo is what Igbos call white (red) people before they adopted Oyibo

An Igbo writer called Ugo Nwokeji even claims the word Oyibo was borrowed from the yorubas and NEVER AN IGBO WORD. Link below

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tjLjoC6ScKYC&pg=PA218&dq=oyibo+igbo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0PBlT9--AqLK0QXww7CgCA&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=oyibo%20igbo&f=false

it is just like saying the word "na" is orginally hausa or so, we all know that "na" is a corrupt version of "nna" thus of Igbo origin.

igbozionism:
why will lagos have her own state managed oil company when non of the Niger delta states has none? I weep for this country

every niger delta stste has its own oil company. Go and figure

I hope they were killed immediately

Probz:
Agidi, oka, ogiri, egusi, akara and moi moi are shared. The rest of your post is nonsense for obvious reasons and you know that.

Agidi and Oka are Igbo words

Egusi can never be igbo. Melon does not naturally grow in the east

Bean for moin moin does not grow in the East

What nonsense ?

Probz:
So much nonsense coming from that Yoruba supremacist up there.

I hope you are not talking about my mention. If I have lied them point it out.

Bobsky:
"Oyibo" is an Urhobo name.

The name comes in variations such as:

Omoyibo, abbreviated as Moyibo is a unisex name and means "little white" or "fair skinned person."

Oyibo, also a unisex name and means "white" or "fair skinned person."

Oyibonanarhoro, abbreviated as Oyiborhoro, Oyibo, or Oyibode, a male name and means "this is a big white"/ fair skinned person."

Oyiborhoro, abbreviated as Oyibode or Oyibo, also male name and means a "big white/ fair skinned person."

Oyiborode, abbreviated as Oyibode or Oyibo, also a male name and means a "big white" or "fair skinned person."

Yes so is Ologun which is a borrowed Yoruba word

Ogedenge is also a Yoruba word

All these are urhobo names of Yoruba origin

Omo means the same in Yoruba and urhobo thanks to bini

Ologbo means cat in Yoruba and same in urhobo again thanks to bini for borrowing Yoruba words to the south south

One thing igbos do is that they hate to admit that they have learnt a lot from Yoruba and Hausa especially the yorubas

Oyinbo or oyibo, ashewo, moin moin, boli, egusi etc are all of Yoruba origin

Now in igbo weddings we have Aso ebi, agbada etc which are yoruba origin as well.

The truth is that igbos before colonialism where forest dwelling people unlike yorubas, nupe, fulani and hausas that travelled a lot.

Even my great grand father when going to hajj want to Mecca by foot. Took him about 8 months or so.

There have mixing of cultures before the igbos became civilised so it is only natural for them to borrow from us.

Not only that things like moin moin beans and melon seed only grow in arid land which the igbos never had.

Please Don't be offended but it is the truth.

The Aworis Fired Back At Oba Akiolu's Alleged Attempt To Re Write The History of Lagos .

LAGOS (EKO) IS OWNED BY THE AWORIS.

As a full blooded Awori, I disagree with the futile attempt to rewrite the history of Aworis and by extension the Yorubas as credited to Alhaji Ridwan Akiolu, the Oba of Lagos.

Firstly, the Island of Lagos was owned by the progenitor of Aworis, the Legendary Olofin Ogunfunminire, it served as pepper farm plantation.
In order to curb unwarranted stealing of pepper, okro and other vegetables that people came from far and near to buy from the Aworis, they devised a plan to have their farm beyond the lagoon as Otto near the present Iddo Railway terminus used to be the meeting point for both the sellers and buyers of pepper and vegetable produce then.
It was easier for them to monitor movements to the "oko ata" (pepper farm) since canoe would be needed to transport people to the other side of the lagoon and the Bini traders and other non Awori people that normally come to patronise the pepper market would naturally not come with canoes. A bigger form of canoe were used to bring people from Bini (Benin) to "oko" (farm) and the disuse of words made the Binis to turn "oko" to a Bini word they were more comfortable with ie "eko".

Secondly, the Aworis were not part of the followers of Prince Izoduwa (Oduduwa) to any imaginary expedition to Ife.
The Aworis were the direct descendants of Olofin. They left Ile Ife in accordance with the divination of ifa that the natural settlement which Eledumare (Supreme Being) had prepared for them was far from Ile Ife and they could only know the right environ if the ritual they prepared was accepted by the river ogun goddess.
The Aworis set out for the journey until the ritual sacrifices were accepted at Isheri end of River Ogun in the present day geographical expression called Lagos State.

Many empires rose and fell without any of such empires conquering the Aworis. When the Bini Empire rose after the fall of Oyo Empire, Oba of Benin ensured that Bini war guards were sent to "Oko ata" called Eko by the Binis, to protect his subjects trading interest and in an attempt to possibly extend its frontiers as a reigning empire. Therefore, the Bini soldiers devised a means of survival by collecting royalty fee free the traders to maintain their stay and survival on Aworiland.

Having stationed themselves in Lagos, under the leadership of Addo and with the influence of Oba of Benin, they became notorious, power drunken and authoritative.
Addo installed himself as the Oba of Lagos which was a small fraction of Aworiland and since, as a matter of fact, the population of the Aworis as of that time was too small to physically occupy their whole territory (even now), they decided not to show any keen interest in the development.

The descendants of Addo ruled and named their various quarters and stations in Bini words until Erelu Kuti, a brave and respected Awori Princess, who married an Ijesha man seized the paraphernalia of Oba and insisted that her two sons should become the Obas at the same time. (I'm sure no Oba of Lagos would like to give details of this story).

At any rate, the Aworis weren't interested in contesting a situation where an immigrant was chosen to lead his fellow immigrants as Oba since the fact that the land belonged to the Aworis was not in doubt and the institution of a central Obaship was not being practised by the Aworis then.

The Oba of Lagos right from Addo to Akiolu had never contested the issue of who owned the land. They had always accepted the fact that Aworis known as "Idejos" of Lagos are the landowners.
The Aromires are actually from Ejigbo in the present day Oshodi/Isolo Local Government Area of the state.

If Oba Akiolu claims today that Lagos is not part of Yorubaland and the "idejos" keep mute, then Oba Akiolu should be able to convince us that Lagos was part or annex of Bini territory the very same stupidity of the theory that claimed Hong Kong as part of Britain not withstanding the distance between the two separate territories.
If Oba Akiolu's claim stands, then, Every Sabo, Sango, Idi Araba, Obalende and Agege in Yorubaland belongs to the Arewa immigrants and Ajao Estate, Ajegunle and Okota equally belong to the Igbo and consequently not parts of Yorubaland.

According to the Yorubas, eniti o fe je oye ti ko to si a mura lati pa itan kitan. (Whoever aspires to be accorded an undeserving title should be prepared to rewrite the history of the people).
Oba Akiolu is neither an Awori nor Yoruba, his forebears are not Lagosians in the real sense of the word. They were Binis (Arota Bini ni won). He is only making a futile attempt to rewrite history in a way that will favour his children's claim to Oba of Lagos throne. He is the first and probably going to be the only one from his lineage to ascend the throne judging by the unfolding trend of events.
He knows why he said what was credited to him if he actually stay by the story.

I am not an Historian but as bona fide Awori, I know the oral tradition of my ancestors. Let no Bini Oba in Aworiland corruptly retell the story of our land.

Kiiti gbe niibe o?

Yoruba dressing

Timmyjosh:
Can anyone just praise God in egun language for me, please....

Werengato werin bia no mi o

My God I praise you.

blues20:
This is exactly the way Late Elechi Amadi rewrote the history of indi Ikwerre that today, every Ikwerre man claims to descend from ancient Benin.

The same can never happen in Lagos island. Fact

I am also an indigend

Awonrin is a corrupt form of Awori. Qod

history2900:
I know, perharps I chose my words poorly.

My brother so did I and I apologies. Egbon let me know when you are in town o, I will be coming for eyo festival this month

history2900:
@aljharem, it is not so much about glory but more about history and reconciliation.
We need to know our history because it is that which bounds us together. We need our history to see what worked in the past and emulate that and also to see what didn't work and change that. Also we need our history to maintain order while we move in direction to the future.

We know the history. Every Lagos island indigene know his/her history. There is no denial. I never forget to mention bini in my family history if asked. From Keteru.

With that said we should forge ahead as empires, country or States with common history. Take a look at Nigeria, you would rather be called Yoruba than any other ethnicity. Why ?

They clearly have a vision and direction unlike others. Take a look at it this way, if we all hold on to this clanish thing then we would not go far as a people. Yes even on nairaland, I have fought with yorubas even deny at times (isale gan) but at the end of the day, we all have a role to play in the greater commonwealth.

See even my indigeous language is lost, my village is turned to broad street etc I get told everyday that Lagos is a no man's land among others but I would rather we are absorbed into the Yoruba nation than some ijo (although culturally similar) or igbo claiming.

Bini and yoruba we are one. We have groups that have bonded us, liked of akoko, itsekiri, awori, ilaje among others. We need to be smart as far as we are in the Nigeria project

history2900:
Basically, you are alluding to the fact that a portion of the yoruba population is made up of former slaves who returned to africa when they were freed. I can only wonder their proportion.

I am not alluding but stating facts here. Likes of Cardoso are examples. Those are Brazilians

We have cardoso family and cordoso and the later is Creole (returnee slave family) yes they are part of the commonwealth now

history2900:
Where is your proof ? You haven't even pproven that there is such a tribe called yoruba (an ancient tribe, not a political ploy to gather different tribes in order to have more votes through tribalism ( Late mr Awolowo, R.I.P). i did spot the word yoruba in a precolonial map but it was dated 1884 and it represented less than a fragment of what you guys are calling yorubaland. In previous pre-colonial maps, All that land is covered by the Benin empire. Might it be that Yorubas are former Benin citizens who seceeded from the empire ?

history2900:
Where is your proof ? You haven't even pproven that there is such a tribe called yoruba (an ancient tribe, not a political ploy to gather different tribes in order to have more votes through tribalism ( Late mr Awolowo, R.I.P). i did spot the word yoruba in a precolonial map but it was dated 1884 and it represented less than a fragment of what you guys are calling yorubaland. In previous pre-colonial maps, All that land is covered by the Benin empire. Might it be that Yorubas are former Benin citizens who seceeded from the empire ?

history2900:
Where is your proof ? You haven't even pproven that there is such a tribe called yoruba (an ancient tribe, not a political ploy to gather different tribes in order to have more votes through tribalism ( Late mr Awolowo, R.I.P). i did spot the word yoruba in a precolonial map but it was dated 1884 and it represented less than a fragment of what you guys are calling yorubaland. In previous pre-colonial maps, All that land is covered by the Benin empire. Might it be that Yorubas are former Benin citizens who seceeded from the empire ?

There was Oyo empire and truly Lagos was not under it. Now you are correct in that. Moving on

A country is a geographical expression comprising of people with common culture and goal. We have common culture with the other "yoruba" states so we would fall under the Yoruba group of states because they clearly have cultural similarities with us and also clearly are a smarter group of people who use dialog to solve issues rather than violence. Yes we would have some omo ales among us, we would go through troubled waters but it is better. The grass is not always greener at the other side. Certainly not east

history2900:
Please, when you make a claim, back it with proof. Now first show me pre-colonial maps on which a country named ooda can be sighted and then prove to me that that country is "yorubaland". I have already provided a proof that the Oba of lagos is right, yet you continue in your delusion and you make other claims without proof.

Yes the monarch of Lagos island was formed by Oba Ado but as of TODAY !!!!! the Ado family, Eletu, obido and Obanikoro families are all Yoruba now. FACT NUMBER 1

The original people Awori where occupants before accepting bini. Awori is Yoruba, FACT NUMBER 2

Lagos Island also have Nupe (tapa), Creole and Brazilians. They are all yorubas now, FACT NUMBER 3

The only claim bini can have in Lagos is if they under the oodua country of not they should forget Lagos, itsekiris, the whole of ondo, whole of ekiti, Akoko Edo areas, as far as we are concerned, we are yorubas.

So if you binis want to join the ibos or be by yourselves then fine. We are more intelligent than living in fragmented colonies. I mean that is clannish and stupid. Any true son of Lagos island knows this even itsekiris know this.

Binis have your "ancient" city and past glory, we are forging ahead. We are not living in past glory .

We would form a great country with the yorubas. Thank you !!!!

history2900:
You are clearly delusional, there is way too much evidence to show that Lagos was part of the Benin empire. The word Yoruba is actually a recent word, it seems it appeared only in the 19th century. What you currently refer to as Yorubaland was actually a part of the Benin empire which comprised people of several different dialects.

i think you are the one that is deluded here. Before the word Yoruba land we had oodua country. Go and read your history very well.

Now to address the oba's utterances, he is clearly deluded as you and I think he is sick. I even have more claim to the throne than him but tinubu game has back fired once again. I will show you my household close to Freeman way. The oba knows he was never meant to be the king at the first place after oyekan.

Listen to the oba at your own peril. We are yorubas I cannot speak for others in Lagos but Lagos Island, Iru (vi), Lagos mainland and Ikoyi are all yorubas , the land is Yoruba ko de si baba nla baba bini to le ni pe ti won ni.

And yes I am talking as an authority

YonkijiSappo:
lol coming from the same people who always scream and cry that Yorubas are using Divide and rule to dominate them

Don't pay attention to them, we are not stupid like them.