PROUD-IGBO: Thanks Alj Uche,and don't mind Ezeuche . I scanned your post for even a hint of sarcasm,but found none.
thank you brother
i have being think of it for sometime now and i have come to realise that igbos are the brigbe holding this nation because they are willing to go anywhere in nigeria just to do business thus economy grows
Thank God we nigerians have igbos in this nation if not, it would be a divided country.
and please do not mind what i have being saying about igbos in the past, i was just a bit of anger and i mean non of it
kalokalo: Just for the record, Itsekiri people have Ijebu ancestry. I'm Ijebu and I can understand Itsekiri "language". The word "itsekiri" is actually a Yoruba word for "itinerant" or literally "walk about"
They migrated from Ijebuland in days of old because they were itinerant traders and picked up words from the Igalas, Isokos, urhobos and all the areas that they encountered due to their trade.
Beaf: ^ What you have said only bears me out that Itsekiri is closer to Igala than Yoruba.
Dream on! You are more likely to speak Warri pidgin and listen to jokes born from the Warri culture of of "wording", cos we are stronger. We have already captured you culturally, not in the future, but here and now!
Chyz*: Exactly, It is clear that they are not yoruba and don't want to be classified as such. They may be related but, they are not yoruba. These claim are coming from people who are not even from delta state and have never been there.
Beaf: ^ Do you know the meaning of the word, "faction?" Abi cows have stepped on your head?
Help me ask them what their real interest is. They see a lovely and successful state and want to bring in their funny politics. Rubbish. I exempt only Kilode?
haba brother cow no step on my head oooo
infact look at Rosemary Chukwu ( an igbo woman being yorubaized)
if you no like am go hang brother, and do not forget to take chyz with u
Beaf: Thank you, leave them there. All of us who left the Western, left because of domination. Leave Delta state and go fix your end, afterall, we aren't claiming Ajegunle or Ondo state.
During this period opinion among leaders from Asaba division was predominantly in support of consolidation with the Eastern region or creation of a western Igbo province within the Western region. Asaba, western Ijaw, and an Itsekiri faction all opposed creation of the Midwest. When Benin and Warri delegates in favor of creation of the Midwest region attempted to raise the issue at the Western regional conference on Constitutional reform that year, they were prevented from doing so.
Aigbofa: Duh! The Itsekiris are in the Midwest. There is nothing wrong in hanging out with people in your geograhic area. The Yorubas in Kwara are still Yorubas despite being classified as northerners.
are you minding the 2 mumus called beaf and chyz
a fulani man is still a fulani man even if he is in NE or NC
but i bet itsekiri and edo did not vote for sure,.,.,., i read it somewhere i am just look for the site now just to disgrace 2 ignorant people from the SS and SE
Beaf: Similarities, yes. But why did the Itsekiri join the Midwest rather than hang out with you guy's? Keep this nonsense out of Delta state jare! If you wish to share cultural similarities and ties, all well and good, but you cannot expand into Delta state. Any hints of bigotry must be left at the gates, we're too advanced for that.
dannyboy10: Judge yourselves,Nairaland is a reflection of youths that are not sincere to themselves that is why Nigeria will need a miracle to ever be right- In a nutshell Aisha2 conduct yourself in a Leadership Capacity ok
sincere in what sense, i might have insulted the first lady but not aisha2 and that is why i asked for links for sure allegations
moreover, you as a GEJ supporter are you sincere with urself by supporting a man of no bases other than sentiments on ethnicity and religious believe
eku_bear: See, this is the problem I have with you. You simply are not an honest person.
For you, the end justifies the means. For you, you don't want Itsekiri people to identify more with Yoruba than with Delta, because you think it threatens your state. I guess due to the Olu of Warri thing and the damage that caused, you don't want them to identify with Yoruba. . . despite there being no real chance of that ever happening again.
So you are willing to distort history, lie about peoples you know absolutely nothing about. Even going so far as to call Yoruba descendants of Itsekiri
Anyway, I understand your motivation. Just a bit surprised at how for you, the truth is irrelevant. . . pseudo-science, mummery, sham and dishonesty are acceptable if achieves your objectives.
you dey mind am
so long itskiris are nigerians and not biafra nigerians like beaf and others always threatening secession, i am cool
so long as they are nigerians whether yoruba or hausa or igbo(not the biafran ones), we real nigerians are ready to fight for their land in delta state and balysea gbamm
dannyboy10: @Aisha 2 As a moderator alot of things entails, it means you are a leader, it means you are at the helm of affairs as far as this forum is concerned, and leader in another word means service. Your are free to support anyone, but your recent replies reflects bias Supporting Buhari and Rhetorically Insulting the First Lady, that is not good for a leader to do,in as much that you can support anyone you need to exhibit qualities of leadership.Keep your cool Woman(That is if you are female because you called someone myopic for referring to you are a Northerner because of your name)
Leadership Please.
i have seen no insult on the first lady by aisha2,.,.,.,. if u have a link please show us
Beaf: Like that wasn't your agenda all the while. Unfortunately, una jam rock. No outsider is going to bring Nigeria's bigotted politics into Delta state. We are not crude people.
Beaf: Like that wasn't your agenda all the while. Unfortunately, una jam rock. No outsider is going to bring Nigeria's bigotted politics into Delta state. We are not crude people.
Beaf: Dude, Latin is to English as proto-Yoruba is to Igala, Itsekiri and Yoruba. I am Isoko/Urhobo with a huge dose of Itsekiri, both sides are Itsekiri. So, stop right there and keep your expansionist thoughts in check.
what expamsionist thoughts
there are links brought out by me and dapo to prove otherwise
jason a proper itsekiri man proved otherwise
infact itsekrir leaders join afenfere a pro-yoruba group that looks after only yoruba groups
stop agruing blindly and face the reality here YOU ARE NOT ITSEKIRI NOR YORUBA SO YOU CAN NOT TALK OR KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR HISTORY OR RELATIONSHIP]
Autolord: @GenBuhari3- I have the links of all i quoted.All i said is true.why dont you prove who is running Mad? Senseless F00L. Didnt you see the performance of your clueless Buhari.
aisha2: Is it compulsary to answer you? Do you think i dont have aa life outside Nairaland, am just sitting here waiting for you to post a topic so i can come and talk. Secondly because my name is Aisha does not mean am a northerner or a moslem, stop being Myopic, I have a right to support any candidate i want, when we were standing with Jonathan during the Save Nigeria Group why did you not accuse me of bias then, now i support someone that you do not suddenly am religiously and ethnically biased. Sad thing is that most Goodluck supporters love to form Unity ticket but you guys are the most ethnically and religiously intolerant people. If someone supports Buhari he/ she must be a Moslem or a Northerner, Please go out of your zone and learn, Nigeria is bigger than you backyard. To answer your first question, Buhari i respect because, when i was in the university, the only signs of Governement i saw around me were PTF projects under him, my school books, school bus, roads and hospital drugs were courtsey of him. Till date i have not felt the impact of any Governance except a little bit with Ribadau who i used to support before i realize Buhari had more substance. So next time you get up and decide to throw allegations at me, do your homework first
koruji: @Beaf I have recently become worried about your willingness to attack Yoruba people, history and culture after GEJ oversteped his bounds by calling SW governors radicals -and was adequately replied. The fact is nobody put the words in his mouth, except perhaps his godfather OBJ, who cannot speak more than a couple of sentences before generating a controversy. GEJ and his supporters ought to know that OBJ has no real following in the SW. His military background and pseudo-uniter of Nigeria role are his main backbones. Personally, I do not begrudge the man as he has done important things on Nigeria's behalf, but he did most of it by selling out his region. GEJ is not an OBJ type person, and for him to allow himself to be led that way for the sake of power is really unbecoming. In one sentence GEJ is praising Awolowo's vision, and then in the other he is calling those who seek to project his vision in a visionless system "radicals" in whose hands the SW must not be left. Nobody in the SW is scared to confront OBJ, talkless of GEJ.
You say Itsekiri is older than Yoruba, but is a mixture of proto-Yoruba (which is not Yoruba) and Igala. Then you say Itsekiri is closer to Igala. However, the Igala's closest relatives are the Yoruba and by extension the Itsekiris. As his listerners said to Paul 1000s of years ago, "Eko ako ju n ba e lo ri je" - too much learning is tying you up in a knot.
Look, all you are saying is that we were the same people with a long history together - the rest is arrant nonsense. Interestingly, you have joined people making incredible assumptions and major alterations to "re-write ancient history by the internet".
I am scared of what politics can do to otherwise rational minds!!!
gbammm
the guy is an eediot
he does not even understand what he is saying
jason proved him wrong
other links shows itsekiri leader are saying the opposite to what beaf is saying