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Ogaga4Luv:Mr Ogaga, there is no point in quoting scriptures for you again IMO, a lot of people have said to you: "Repent, the second coming of Christ is near!" and you've obviously turned deaf hears several times. So let me join them by asking you to give your life to Christ before it's too late. Now, I will be praying for you and hope that someday you'll be a totally renewed person. I feel so sorry for you man! The fact that you or someone else isn't successful or happy at Christianity doesn't invalidate Christianity. Btw there are those who aren't successful and happy with Satanism too, so is Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, etc. BTW, you don't have to invalidate Christianity to proof Satanism is the real deal. It's like having a Muslim invalidating Buddhism to justify his/her religion. If Satanism is the route you're taking, then fine, take it and stop all this bad belle hating for Christian Doctrines. You have freewill, don't you? and should be allowed to practice whatever belief you have, init? let others do the same please. |
You have to first forgive yourself as in stop worrying about it and then ask for forgiveness from God. Forgiveness involves not looking back on your sins, as in not worrying/thinking about it whether God has forgiven you or not. God said, if any man is in Christ, he's a new creature, behold old things are past away and all things are now new. So you're a new being man, when you get to confess your sins to him, then you're totally different from the man that slept with a woman while the husband is in the bedroom. As in, that man is gone, lost, forgotten, you are now a new special kind of being, a transformed and renewed personality in its entirety. My 2 kobos worth sha! |
Image123:IMO, To drink responsibly can be relative to each individuals, I have a colleague who consumes 10 pints and doesn't affect him. But in other to have a generic level of acceptable drinking, you have to look at a country such as England where everyone is allowed a limit they can consume before doing such things as driving. What I'm saying in reference to image123's question is that so many scientific test has been done and a whole country have adopted a law that says if you consume more than X number of pints of alcohol then you're not fit to drive. I will like to stick to such level of acceptable drinking as drinking responsibly. Nezan:I'll like to compare this statement with Money. Is Money the root of all evil? No, But the Love of Money is the root of all evil, absolutely YES! So is Alcohol (Strong drink) sin? No, But too much of Alcohol is sinful and forbidden from Bible's perspective, absolutely YES! |
KunleOshob:Kunle, men, when I grow up, I want to be like you o! Do you know I've never read, or perhaps, it's never occurred to me before reading this your post that Christ was called a gluttony and a drunkard! Ofcourse Jesus can't get drunk by drinking "Fruity" wine, Truth is good o, although can be bitter. These same peeps in Luke 7 called John the baptist a demon for eating no bread and drinking no wine. Check out this notes from Barnes commentary on Matthew 11:16 - 19 , Wine-bibber. One who drinks much wine. A great drinker. Jesus undoubtedly lived according to the general customs of the people of his time. He did not affect singularity; he did not separate himself as a Nazarene; he did not practise severe austerities. He ate that which was common, and drank that which was common. As wine was a common article of beverage among the people, he drank it.In most of the bible versions I read, he was either called a wine bibber or a drunkard in Luke 7:34, that doesn't mean the people who are calling him that are right though, but in other to understand the bible's take on what wine is and what wine bibbing is, I had to read a little further. I got some of these references: We all know Jesus made wine as per John 2:3-11, particularly verse 10, The main point of call is what kind of wine, freshly pressed wine or not? I couldn't get my head round why people will get drunk of "fruity" wine though. So I decided to look up some references. I also checked up the Hebrew word for drink as used in Isaiah 1:22, 24:11, Micah 6:15. For Is 1:22 The KJV strong version called it wine and used the word: Cobe' which means drink/liquor/wine. This is a Noun word formed from the word Caba - a verb which means to winebibe, drink heavily or get drunk(as in drunkard, sounds familiar?); So what is liquor, a drink strong enough to make one drunk if taken out of moderation? or a fruity drink? AMP Bible states for Micah 6:15 - "You shall sow but not reap; you shall tread olives but not anoint yourselves with oil, and [you shall extract juice from] the grapes but not drink the wine." NKJV "You shall sow, but not reap; You shall tread the olives, but not anoint yourselves with oil; And make sweet wine, but not drink wine." The sweet wine bit is coined from the word: Tiyrowsh, a freshly pressed wine; NAS Strong numbers referred this to as "GRAPES" , clearly a fruity/juicy kind of drink. Meanwhile the second wine bit has an hebrew word which is: Yayin; which KJV Strong numbers referred wine as in winebibbing, Yayin as an Hebrew word is from an unused root meaning to effervesce. I checked my dictionary word for effervesce, it means: "To emit small bubbles of gas, as a carbonated or fermenting liquid." - sounds like a glass of Champagne? So clearly, in the Bible days, there was Tiyrowsh, and also Yayin as in Cobe'. To my suprise, wine as in Yayin was used as "drink offering" unto the Lord in Exodus 29:40 and Num 15:4-10. To my greatest surprised, the King Lemuel was told something about not drinking wine: not to drink strong wine and that princes shouldn't drink wine so that they may forget stuff: Proverbs 31:4, NAS version: "It is not for kings, O Lemuel, It is not for kings to drink wine(Yayin), Or for rulers to desire strong drink(Shekar)" - Shekar means intoxicating liquor as in beer. NLT version: "And it is not for kings, O Lemuel, to guzzle wine. Rulers should not crave liquor." - guzzle means to To drink greedily, excessively or habitually. 1Timothy 5:23. Funny enough, none of these words were used with Christ in NT, in 1 Tim 5:23, Oinos a Greek word was used for wine, same in John 2:9 an Luke 7:34 as Oinopotes, which was formed from Oinos. The KJV and NAS strong numbers confirms Oinos is a greek word which has it's root origin from Hebrew word Yayin , sounds familiar? Yes, This is a confirmation that Christ made Yayin in John 2 and being accused of drinking too much of Yayin in Luke 7:34. Btw during the Last Supper when Christ broke bread and gave them cup to drink that it's his blood. In verse 29 of Matt 26, he said that he wouldn't drink wine again from this cup. So which wine did Christ give to the disciples at the last supper, I know what you're thinking, it's not Yayin, it's Ampelos, transcribed to vine. NAS/KJV described the wine as the "fruit of the vine". This is clearly different from the wine in Luke 7 and 1 tim 5:23. I like the way NLT puts it: NLT Matt 25:29 "Mark my words – I will not drink wine again until the day I drink it new with you in my Father's Kingdom." - wine here is from the greek word Ampelos - "fruit of vine" Many Many words I went through, but let me summarise my findings: If Christ consumed Oinos (greek word derived from Yayin) and it still didn't affect his teaching and way of life, I will say he didn't drink too much of it as in Prov 31:4. Ofcourse there are Christians that will say strong drink - Shekar/Yayin is wrong, but if Christ consumed it, then it definately can't be a sin, too much of it is what is forbidden as far as what the Bible says IMO. Allta |
I'm a Christian, take wine occasionally and in moderation. For example, the last time I took red wine was on a plane when I was served by the airline, does this example make me sinful? |
And the Lord showed me everything from the beginning to the end. It came to a stage that the host of Heaven were the ones playing football - because the whole thing was tough. So, both sides – nobody played ball again. But who are these people playing football? I could not see any players again because it was tough to decide.Olodo, the Lord showed you and you are still asking who the people were, having said that they were host of Heaven! The most ridiculous jack sh*it I've ever read from a very non-intelligent man of doom, not only that this is nonsensically ludicrous, but also preposterously absurd. Not only farcically pathetic, but also foolishly and idiotically silly. No wonder so many who call him Lord Lord Lord, and heal the sick in his name will not make the kingdom of God. "TBJ my ar.se" |
Just saw this movie, man I don't know what to say. A good movie on one hand, and a terrible one on another. Let me explain , if it were to be another country that was stereotyped, I wouldn't have issue, but then, that's making me selfish of loyalty to my fatherland. At the end of the day, a movie is what it is , fantasy, suppose to be entertaining and boy, it could have been if the Nigerian element was substituted for another country. BTW, why didn't they shoot it in Naija self, why stereotype Nigerian thugs on a SouthAfrican Soil? That's the bit that doesn't make perfect sense in the movie for me. Overall, there is no reason why Naija govt should ban Silverbird from showing it, it's not that bad now, thought we're the humour capital of Africa. |
IYA NGBALI:ROFL + LOL ![]() |
sholadoma:Na today? Even, IG no trust even CNN and Facebook these days jo! The man is waiting for God to come down from heaven to tell him Ribadu was in Nigeria last week. |
This is what I understand: Tonye-t:1. Jesus teaching in Mat 23 wasn't on Tithe o, it was titled Seven Woes from NIV. Matt 23:2-3: "2 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3 So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach." (Woe unto them for they do this, and don't do this, bla bla bla); 2. Jesus himself fasted for 40days&nights. 3. What's your definition of offering? transferring haves from those who have to those who have not? wasn't there accounts where Christians made offerings in NT. 4. I get ur pt here and I agree with except that Tithe could be exempted from that list and the Church will still function. How did early church function without Tithing but via offerings and free-will giving? |
azeezbaba: cecegorz:What other proof are you looking for? A Video Evidence? abi you want NTA to interview Ribadu from Oxford? Una ask for pictures, una get am, una ask for comments from anyone present, una get am , I honestly don't know what else u peeps want self. Btw, are you a Police Officer? |
My dear Mr Tonye-t, For one second, let me assume I'm wrong with that statement, but If early Christ, The Disciples and Christians neglected the lightier part, then I'm prepared to serve the consequences they served. In other words, if there was no record (in the Bible ofcourse) to show they didn't neglect the "lightier part", then I believe there will be no record to show that me too, will neglect them. My brother, I have chosen to concentrate on those things that do count. Like I said, I'm opened to witnesses which are only inspired by God's words that early Christians didn't neglect Tithing. BTW, I believe the Law was binding before the death of Christ, and it was at that point that things shifted, isn't it? But despite that, no record showed Christ or Disciples paid Tithe, or am I missing out something? |
I'm proud to be a Nigerian, and always will be, even if Naija Govt reject me like they did to Ribadu, but make I advise una whey dey abroad, don't risk your life by coming home o. Or if you must come, please employ heavily armed body guards whey even the Police can not touch. As for me, the day I ja commot this country, before I smell the soil again, God will come down to Naija first and kill all dem Soldier-Go-Soldier-Comes finish! Nigeria National Anthem: Arise, O Compatriots, Nigeria's call obey To serve our Fatherland With love and strength and faith. The labour of our heroes past Shall never be in vain, To serve with heart and might One nation bound in freedom, peace and unity. O God of creation, Direct our noble cause; Guide our Leaders right: Help our Youth the truth to know, In love and honesty to grow, And living just and true, Great lofty heights attain, To build a nation where peace and justice reign. Na wa for Papa God self, how long will it take him to answer our last prayer "To build a nation where peace and justice reign"? |
CrazyMan:The more reason why you don't wanna get caught! Play Safe, Use Protection!! |
@ Mr Tonye-t This is what I know , people should be allowed to do what they believe is right! Being a Christian is a choice in the first place, believing there is a God is a choice in the first place, btw there are still "Bible Believing" people till date that think eating pig is wrong and there are still some that sacrifice rams and bulls to appease God. There still people who pay Tithe annually, every 3 years and even using fruit produce rather than money, the only thing that consign me is to preach the gospel, the truth and make disciples of nations. If those disciples chooses to take my interpretation about tithing/sacrificing/pig-eating, it's between them and their God. If they decide to even eat their "Tithe" along with the motherless, orphans, levites/pastors, foreigners, I WILL GLADLY LET THEM! A lot as been said about this tithing thing and I just don't want to be dragged into another hulla-balloo. But if Christ didn't Tithe, and the people that were first called Christians didn't, whatever consequences they suffered for not doing so, I'm prepared to suffer same. Maybe Tithe wasn't relevant in their days , the early days which followed crucifixion, maybe it's only relevant in our own days; everyone is entitled to their own interpretation of the word of God, but that wouldn't change God's word. Hey, talking about Matt 23:23, why did the Bible say that the Pharisees, Saducees and Hypocrites paid Tithe but didn't record that Christ and the Disciples tithed? Or why didn't the Bible record that Early Christians , those who were first called Christians paid Tithe. Why did Tithe now resurfaced years after the Bible days? Please tell people the truth about Tithe, if they still want to pay, let them, and if they don't, let them as well. Until someone show me from the Bible that Jesus, The Disciples and Early Church paid Tithe, I will continue to believe it's not new testamental. I do believe sha that the Pharisees, Saducees and Hypocrites pay Tithe. At least the New Testament recorded it. |
galatico:If not for that "taboo", you will not be alive today o, only Adam, Eve, Cain, his sista and other brothers will still be alive now. You don't need a prophet to tell you Cain shag.ged his sista! A very common practice in dem days. |
ttalks:Because we were brainwashed when young in sunday school classes that God will send "kokoro-ajenirun" when you don't pay and that he could let Satan destroy you. Nonesense and utter Rubbish! |
Sir Welly:Na wa o, which kind tabo? if brother no marry sista, where did we all come from then? abi people just appeared on the face of the earth? Even Science and Religion shows there was a time when sista dey mess brother wella, ibeg jo, no confuse Breaka jo. Having said that, there is a need to keep it secretive for culture sake, and as long as dem no bring out babies, they're free to enjoy that apple fruit. |
brows:What do you expect, you know the kind squady/igbo whey him shack? |
Like I asked in another thread on NL, why would Ribadu lied on his facebook that he was in Naija last week Thursday? |
Who get's the Ring Ans: The Pastor/Alpha!!! |
I know how you feel man, although the closest I've come to is sharing the same single bed with a Cous, I was drunk though so , Anyways, Man, just use cond.om, as long as their is no belle, yah can always keep it secretive. Couz-On-Couz is sweet esp if she's gorgeous. ![]() |
mekuslogan:Thank You jare, The Nigerian Police should put an end to all this by showing evidences from UK Govt. that Ribadu never left UK enroute to (West) Africa and also evidences from Airlines that he didn't take any Nadeco Route into Naija. If there are no enough security cameras to identify anyone at various point of entry into the country. I would not dispute if someone said to me Bin Laden is living in Lekki self. Seriously, we have SSS, we have an investigative department/unit for Naija, make dem all produce evidence and not just blab. Shiiiiooooo!!!! |
Why would Ribadu lie on his Facebook that he visited Naija last Thursday(10th)? Nigerian Police are f.a.g.s!!! and the currect IG is a c.u.n.t! for rejecting the news. Can't they simply check with Airlines or even Nigerian Customs/Immigration Officials and carry out checks on Ribadu's immigration records, what about the Press that Ribadu addressed? Nigeria is all one big fantassy JOKE!!! Check out this write-up by Reuben Abati from Ribadu's Facebook's notes, so who is Lieing , RIBADU or NIGERIAN POLICE? Gani's Death and Ribadu's Return |
OvieE:lol! ![]() |
. I fear no truth that ever exist. I will never take part in false doctrine. skip me off. . .im not in that level.