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Thiefobi1:Exactly. Atiku also won Akwa Ibom and Bayelsa. This shows you that there's no tribal correlation in both of their victories. It was simply a referendum on what the populace felt about their choices. Tinubu was the only major presidential candidate that lost both his state of residence, Lagos and state of origin, Osun. His people clearly knew him better than the rest of Nigerians. |
garykoeman:Peter Obi won Lagos. |
Krankhead:Tell him to allow for a free and fair election and stop trying to sabotage other political parties in order to run unopposed. |
lawani:So explain why Atiku won Osun, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa and still got as high as 100k plus votes in some Southwestern states. Did they not consider that it was the turn of the South before voting Atiku? Or it just didn't matter much to them? |
lawani:I just told you most of the votes Obi got would have gone to Atiku and you continue to be repetitive. Everyone knows Obi did Tinubu a favour by running but the reverse will be the case if Obi runs in 2027. Tinubu was never the face of the South. Religion was a more stronger factor in the South in 2023 than region and the same will still be the case in 2027. If Tinubu makes the mistake of repeating his Muslim-Muslim ticket, he will only have himself to blame. Already, the Church has continued its antagonism towards him. It will get more intense heading into 2027. This time, there will no longer be 5.6m Northern votes to carry him home.
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WizardOfNG:Phewww! After all the vituperations and attempts at unity begging, most of which I didn't bother to read, the bottomline remains that Tinubu is running a Yoruba supremacy agenda, not a Southern agenda. Whenever you are called out on this, you attribute it to hate. Did the North not make Tinubu president with 5.6m votes? He lost the South, winning only 4 Yoruba states out of 17 Southern states. He now has the opportunity to create a united South but greed, cronyism, tribalism and favoritism will not allow. Speaking of hate and seccession, why did Tinubu imprison Nnamdi Kanu while pardoning Sunday Igboho who is now an active Tinubu campaigner? Is that how to build a united South? Do these words sound familiar to you? "Go back to where you came from," "drown in the lagoon," "our Lagos, not your Lagos." Tinubu has until 2027 to split Nigeria and grant you "Yoruba nessan." Any attempt to advocate for seccession after he's voted out of power will be met with decisive force by the Nigerian state. |
lawani:False. Atiku had more votes in the Southwest overall than Peter Obi. Without Obi, a lot of people in the Southwest would have voted Atiku due to him having a religiously balanced ticket. Tinubu can not win the Southwest in a landslide, even in 2027. Granted, muslim-muslim hindered Tinubu in some states but it was a net gain due to the votes he got from the Muslim North. Repeating the same faith ticket will grant him no advantage this time in the muslim North but can potentially cost him votes in the Northcentral. He will likely replace Shettima for this reason. |
Meanwhile, Tinubu's lackeys are busy removing the speck on Obi and the ADC's eyes while ignoring the log of wood stuck in theirs. |
QuantAnalyst:Does it matter? The question still remains, where will Tinubu's votes come from even in a 3-horse race? |
agadez007:Exactly. The North doesn't care whether Tinubu moves the whole country to the South. But which part of the South? Buhari was nepotistic in favour of the entire North but one man is cornering everything to his tribe while screaming "turn of the South". Even when he considers the Northcentral, he goes towards the Yoruba-speaking tribes of Kogi and Kwara only. |
QuantAnalyst:We are now back to governors? APC had 21 governors in 2023 but Tinubu only won 12 states. Half of those 12 were non-APC states. The question you should be asking is where will Tinubu's votes come from in 2027 if Obi runs? Will he still be counting on 5.6m votes from the North? |
Parachoko:Thanks to muslim-muslim ticket. This puts to bed all claims that the middlebelt is largely dominated by Christians. It isn't. It's more or less, evenly split with a slight tilt in favour of Muslims. In anycase, all 3 candidates got over a million votes each in the middlebelt. This wouldn't change much in 2027. The middlebelt and the Southwest (yes, the Southwest) will always be split. |
Parachoko:No. Tinubu is president because Peter Obi's defection from the PDP balkanized traditional PDP votes into two. Tinubu only won 4 Yoruba states out of 17 Southern states. It was also the first time in a long while where we had a three-horse race. Otherwise, Tinubu would have lost the election and he knows it. This is why he doesn't want Obi to be part of the coalition and at the same time, is scared of the prospects of Obi running solo. Knowing fully well that he is still unpopular in the South and the 5.6m Northern votes are no longer a guarantee. |
Parachoko:Tinubu didn't get any votes in the Southeast, neither did he win the Christian majority votes in the Middlebelt but he's president today because the Muslim majority votes in the North made him so with 5.6m votes. Atiku need not win the Southeast in a landslide to become president. He only needs the 25% spread to become president at first ballot because he's set to get the majority votes in 2027. Believe it or not. |
seunmsg:Arewa handle indeed. We know who's behind the so-called "Arewa handle". Keep creating more to make yourself happy. You deserve it. This is becoming pathetic. Should we start lifting some of the inciting posts that some so-called "Yoruba Conservative" handles post on twitter and bringing it to Nairaland to make frontpage? If Tinubu and his lackeys are this invested in seeing Obi leave the coalition, why was so much resources expended in sending him away from the LP? |
Lol. The Lagos-Ibadan Expressway propaganda media machinery are on overdrive due to panic and trepidation. Tinubu and his minions are now realising that they made a mistake by frustrating Obi out of the Labour party. They are now desperate for Obi to run solo. Why not just leave him at LP where he was? They have now inadvertently united Atiku, Kwankwaso, Obi, Amaechi, Elrufai, etc under one umbrella and there are no answers for that beyond using the courts to stop the party. But that will be yet another strategic mistake. |
Ndimkpurummiri:For good reasons. There's no such thing as bad publicity. They have you restless and glued to your seat. Are you not entertained? |
Thanks for the free promotion of the coalition. Tinubu's lackeys obviously have no other job than to be stalking twitter and lifting comments and posts of random individuals to Nairaland. There was a Forum! Just like the Ibadan Declaration a.k.a the Ides of April, you all won't see the next move of the coalition coming! |
No, he won't and rightly so. Next question. With the electoral act amendment, all talks about dollarisation of primaries are dead. Whoever thinks they are more popular than Atiku should join the race and defeat him in the direct primaries. |
Odin13:Well, sometimes I marvel at his kind of politics. Obi will get less votes than in 2023 if he runs solo. Atiku has a soft spot for the East and always chooses a Southeasterner as Vice. In 2019, he chose Obi against all odds and even courted the wrath of Ekweremadu and other Southeastern governors who wanted him to pick from among the governors. The next cycle, Atiku chose Okowa and the rest is history. Atiku may likely run along with Makinde if he wins the primaries and the hostility continues. He will give Obi the right of first refusal nonetheless. Reminds one of Buhari who kept running with Southeasterners in Chief Chuba Okadigbo and Chief Edwin Ume-Ezeoke. They kept rejecting him until he went Southwest and ended up winning without them. They play morality and emotional politics but you don't even have to be friends to align in politics. When you play national politics, the only question that matters is "what's in it for my people?" |
success1smyn:E shock you abi? He only went to Enugu where he publicly declared that if the Southeast fail to support him, they will only get bread soaked in tea. He ended up winning with 5.6m votes from the North and made good on his threat. The ADC offers an opportunity for the Southeast to come into national prominence by having one foot in the door. They can then build up from there like every other region have done. The alternative is to go solo and then continue to talk about marginalisation while their unborn children contributes in paying for loans on projects that were never sited in their region. That's not smart politics. It's self-sabotage. |
Not only will it shake him, it will defeat him and he knows it. |
tishbite41:PDP structures? He won more APC states than PDP states. APC had 21 governors in 2023 as "structure". How comes Tinubu only won in 12 states with half of those 12 being non-APC states? What happened to the structure? |
tishbite41:No, it should rather be Obi or Tinubu. Otherwise, you will end up shortchanging yourself and your region. Make your vote count. Voter apathy is not a political strategy. |
Lamasta:Are you willing to bet two of your balls on it? Atiku quietly got 7m votes in 2023 when even the most irrational Northerner agreed that it was the turn of the South. Is it now that Tinubu has been tried and has failed that Atiku will now stand less chance? 5.6m Northerners voted Tinubu in 2023. That numbers have greatly shrunk since then. Guess who they will be voting in 2027. Have you seen the ADC registration numbers and their spread? Northerners are more enthusiastic about the ADC than Peter Obi's base. In politics, nothing is given on a platter. The excuse about dollarisation is no longer sellable with direct primaries. Register as a member of the party and walk the talk by voting for your preferred candidate. |
nobilie:Let it happen. Heaven will not fall. If the other South (mostly the Southeast) fail to see an opportunity and seize it, that's on them. Tinubu was in the same position in 2015 but he prioritised his region by aligning with the North to oust Jonathan. The rest is history. The Southeast can vote Tinubu out of spite but don't expect him to be grateful for it. He will rather see it as a form of conquest and rightly so. Afterall, he never campaigned in the East in 2023 and probably still won't do so in 2027. There's no pathway to a Southeastern presidency that does not entail going through the VP route. Uzodinma, Soludo and Umahi are only sabotaging Obi today in order to be "considered" for VP in 2039. |
nobilie:He convened the Coalition and invited Obi to join. How is he killing the ADC by exercising his democratic right to contest? Anyone who feels it's the turn of the South is free to vote Tinubu. Obi was seen yesterday openly fraternizing with the OK promoters at the opposition summit. That's poor politics. This gives the impression that he has openly selected a VP candidate for himself in a coalition where he is yet to even win the ticket. Kwankwaso has not personally shown as much enthusiasm as Obi has on this. At least, not openly. That's mature politics from an experienced politician who is keeping all their cards close to their chest, knowing fully well that anything can happen.
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seunmsg:If this materialises, the best Tinubu can hope for is to come second. Obi will still dust him in the South and parts of the middlebelt (if he still runs on same faith ticket) while the bulk of Tinubu's 5.6m Northern votes will now go to Atiku. Obi may not do better than his 2023 numbers as he has since lost some ground, but Atiku will definitely do better but may struggle with spread. (Emphasis on "may".) Unfortunately, Kwankwaso is staying put in the ADC and will likely run for Senate to position for the Senate presidency. He has nothing to lose. |
Tinubu did it first. Both locally and internationally. We also have pictures of him greeting the floor, both at Eagle Square and in Turkey.
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Tinubu’s lackeys now stalk social media scavenging for any and every post by random individuals (some of whom are closet APC lackeys) to discredit the opposition. Dead on arrival. Next, it will make Nairaland frontpage with the header, "Obi's ally says so and so". Atiku and Obi as at today, are both members of the same political party. Modified: It's on frontpage. I told you so! |
boxypane:Oh, Elrufai was responsible for insecurity in Kaduna as governor. Who then is responsible for the insecurity in Plateau, Benue, Zamfara, etc and most recently Kwara? Their governors too right? Along with the current Vice President? Are your Southern governors performing better than their Northern counterparts? If yes, why do you want a change? Who put Nigerians into the economic hardship you speak about? |
boxypane:Why not start by naming a similar case where the accused was denied bail. You can keep burying your head but the fact is that, the debt will be repaid in multiple folds. It goes beyond Elrufai. It will be permanent and pensionable so Tinubu can as well give it his best shot now that he has the chance. |
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