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BetaThings: There is nothing spetacular about your questions
Shekau calls himself a muslim. What he is doing is clearly haraam. It is difficult to just declare anyone a kaffir. You may not like this. But it is the same procedure required to pass fatawa and declare jihad. Were this not so anyone can just start a jihad
But clearly Shekau is doing things that outside the rules of Islam. He kills indiscriminately. He kills fellow muslims, innocents, children, the aged and women. Even in a lawful jihad you cannot kill these people

There are many christian terrorists too. Check Hutaree, LRA, IRA etc
There would have been more if more christian countries are occupied
The Taliban was trained and financed by the Americans when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan
Same American later confronted some of these guys when they invaded Iraq
Note that America invaded Iraq and toppled the government. The people who resisted were called insurgents
Same America and Britain encouraged Charles De Gaulle to resist when the German invaded France and toppled the French government. But De Gaulle was called resistance. The occupying Germans called them traitors and saboteurs

The first thing to do is to ensure that he does not have too many foot soldiers. This is by telling potential recruits that Shekau's actions are deeds of hellfire
Muslims who know them should report them and resist them where they can. The Kaduna incident is an example
It may appear that he has foot soldiers but there are a lot of unemployed youths. They are impressionable and susceptible to brainwashing. Note that the boy who went to that mosque was even pushed
However do you think he has up to 10,000 people?

It does not matter if the lady went to the mosque with a bomb or not. She heard about fishing for souls and misunderstood it. I can nearly guess she would have been with Shekau on "Jihad" were she a muslim

Several muslim leaders have condemned Shekau. Sheik Jafar was killed because he publicly denounced Boko Haram even when Mohammed Yusuf was alive.

u didnt answer the question. u only gave me conspiration theories of america did this and germany did that without any source or evidence to back ur point that america truely did all these things u mentioned...

[i said, why do we have many terrorist organisations carrying out pure mass killing linked with islam]

[ira like u said are seperatist fighting for freedom from british just like biafra

LRA Never carry out any major attack knwn to d world

hutaree is not even associated with christianity and neva carry out major attack]..

Now do u wana compare dis groups with the likes of [alqeda, boko haram, hamas, taliban, hezbollah, alshabab, etc]


then for the bolded part ...
cant d muslims create like a vigilantee group that will counter the excesses of shekau since condeming alone is not working...

Now everybody wana feature dbanj..
international lomo
which tribe is naeto c again?

NO QUOTE MY POST O .. Or thunder go fire u

psoto: I couldn't even finish listening τ̅☺ it. I don't like it.

yeah becoz dbanj is in it abi?

BetaThings: Jonathan was not able to tame MEND. Afterall his house was bombed
And he could not go to Maiduguri
Obasanjo went and his host was killed within 48 hours and the culprits are at large
When Ojo Maduekwe encouraged Nigerians to ride bicycles, but was knocked down, everybody learnt their lesson
With Boko Haram killing both the low and the high, how many people will be bold enough to confront them?

The history of WWI tells us that it never makes sense to confront a gun with bare hands
And with war. A suicide bomber only objective is to kill many. He does not mind dying

The way Christians egg Muslims on, charging us to do more and try to play us like pawns in their chess game, one is left with the impression that the objective is just to kill off all muslims (both the Boko Haram members and the muslims that oppose BH)

so Mend is forcing people into Christianity now abi? and jonathan house that they bomb is for the glory of Christ?

BetaThings: So does Shekau make sense to you? What he is after is impracticable
What religion? What jihad? Must he kill all muslims who disagree with him (and who are in the majority) to prove to you that his own religion is different and without precedent in Islam
anybody can claim to be fighting jihad. Afterall an american went to Afghanistan with a private mission to arrest the leader of the Taliban

The lady that went to UI mosque during Jumuah service and started shouting "Accept Jesus" to Muslims who were praying, what do you think she was doing?
She was "fishing for souls" and "preaching the word of God". Or was she not? So how is her understanding different from Shekau's or Rev King's?

okay i will ask u....is imam shekau a muslim or not? how come we have many terrorist organizations that link themselves with islam? if he is not a muslim ..what are the real muslims doing to stop imam shekau from given islam a bad name? why and how does he get many foot solders

the lady that went to jumah service ...did she go there with a bomb? did the Christians condemns the act or not?
answe am waiting?

BetaThings: So the kidnappers that took Abia hostage had many sympathisers in the state. Right?
I can see that the drug dealers in Mexico that is terrorising the country has a lot of sympathisers

yes they have many sympathiser ... If they dnt their wnt be getting away with it easily i dnt wana go tribal.. Buh its a knwn fact that there are many kidnappers in abia due to d get rich quickly of sum igbo youths (no offence my igbo people) and they help their brothers even when they knw what he is doing is wrong..
And for mexico.. Google it most of the drug barron and lords their have many sympathizers even in government.. Do more research on that

onatisi: i think nigeria own is more political , initially when boko haram started they said they will be attacking only government units or targets and that they wanted to avenge the killing of their leader, all of a sudden they changed their reasons to that of Islamic separate state that wasn't their initially message according to them, i have been wondering who brought that one in , it is my believe that we are dealing with not just only one group and that another group is pursuing another agenda alongside that of boko haram

it might be or was political b4.. Buh what we have now is nothing buh religion terrorist organisation...it has grown far beyond politics.. Even d politicians that might have created the monster cannot tame it anymore

Remember that in a video that imam shekau sent after this day bombing.. He was appealing to nigerians to stop calling them boko haram, that they are not boko haram buh organisation that is propagating jihad in nigeria..
And he gave their new name (
(Arabic: ﺟﻤﺎﻋﺔ ﺍﻫﻞ ﺍﻟﺴﻨﺔ ﻟﻠﺪﻋﻮﺓ
ﻭﺍﻟﺠﻬﺎﺩ, Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna
Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad =english ...
People Committed to the
Propagation of the Prophet's
Teachings and Jihad))..
So saying its politics is like going back to stone age.. Its a religious organisation and nothin more except we wana use sentiment to shy away frm the truth

kindabigg: Do I know you?

how dumb can sum1 be?
Asking do i knw u in public forum. *smh*

kindabigg: I am absolutely disappointed by some comments on this forum. We need to start thinking before we post.

must u criticize always?

Post ur own lets hear whatchu wana say

We are on top of the situation.

People shouldnot panick and go about their normal businesses

*munching cassava bread*

^^
dude! How many times do i have to tell u to go and learn how to write with normal text and proper english in public forum?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]I'm 1/3 Muslim, 1/3 Christian, 1/3 Atheist and I take offense to this statement.[/quote]yes true..
Thank gudness u admit

I'm 1/3 Muslim, 1/3 Christian, 1/3 Atheist
I'm 1/3 nigerian, 1/3 ghanaian, 1/3 brazilian..

(sycophant with no identity)

@onatisi
yeah poverty played 10% role
buh 90% is ideology.. Poverty alone cannot make u blow urself up with others...

Abdumutallab is a son of one of d richest nigerian.. Living in 3million pounds mansion and yet he wants to blow himself and others up..

Dubai is tourism country... Tourism is one of the major source of income.. Their government wnt allow break down of law as a result of extremism.. Nobody will wana travel to a country that the security of life is not guaranteed

and abt recruiting frm africa..
Thats becoz majority of africans have slave mentality.. Thats why they will condemn anytin that belongs to them (their heritage) to embrace western and arab things..

^
i understand what u are saying

not all muslims will support the action of boko haram... Becoz they are even divided among themself.. They have shia and suni... Likewise they have educated ones that wnt support killing..
Buh i dnt think its becoz they are afraid of retalation.. They are just blood sucking demons they are not afraid of dieing in the proccess.. Thats why they have large number of sucidist

onatisi: ok ,but who are the fools ?is the notherner,or muslims or the sponsors of boko haram?please remember not alll notherners are muslims and not all muslim support boko haram.which brings us back to the question who are this boko haram representing?

agreed!

Buh they have many sympathizers in the north thats why they are always successful when they carry out their violence act...

I wnt say all muslims are terrorists .. We have reasonable muslims in the south..
Buh it wnt change the fact that 95% of terrorism are carried out by muslim

those kislam mass muderers on rampage again

akthedream: Nope,it thought them to.1..Slap people(Oyedepo),.2..Burn people(Rev king)..3.Prohesise doom(T.b)..4..Coil/Perm ur hair(Oyakhilome)..5..Get 72 virgins(Okotie..2 and counting)..6..Deceive and defraud people(Pastor fireman)..You want to hear about how to own a PRIVATE JET or HOW TO OWN EXPENSIVE SCHOOLS built by the poor but strictly for the rich?..Let us just liue as one and stop saying what we dont know about other people's religion.There is no religion without bad people.There is religion and there is personal attitude..

atleast none of them are mass murderer like muhammed (piss/shiit be on to him IN HELL)
and his f0ot soilders like prophet osama bin latrin (piss on to him too)
imam shekau (dung be unto him)

i can live with any other people buh mass muderers? GOD FORBID

onatisi: the question i have is this if boko haram wants a muslim state then why kill fellow muslims?

u dey mind those drunk f0ols?

antsut: Guy, you're clueless or high on cheap crack or dead.
Hey! I can see your tomb. Is that epitaph? It read: Amos Moams On SoberlY in hell, AMOSY

lol are u the one to kill me? Very typical of average muslims... Agressive and stupiid

NO WEAPON FASHIONED AGAINST ME SHALL PROSPER

even ur bomb and ak47 aint enough Mr Odeh

lacasa: Ɣ must u say stupid thinz just ​ so​ Ɣou get noticed

It's quite dumb of Ɣou.

1st of all kaduna is not a christian state last i knew.


2ndly, theee district head n the youths comprised muslims, the same people tђat the gunmen shot/attempted ϯo kill, ​ so​ wat r u saying

Stop smoking dat ish pls

quote my post when u are ready to write normal english

for now no comment

@ebamma
lmao u remind me of da-grin. A boy of 27 that people are calling 23

HBD WIZKID

cyril83: Goldie happens to be the tru picture of naija babes....MUMU

lwkm

It shows kislam and its foot soilders are failure like their prophet.. They cant islamize ordinary kaduna(christian state)

they are buncha failures and they will continue to fail

AMEN

Abayomin70: Guy u realy need to go see a doctor
Am very sure u ar a kid still colectin money from ur parent
Wat did I say rung dat u ar callin me fool and dat I av complete madness y can't u kip on nairaland no how to talk to people am only sayin my own opinion and u are callin me fool
Fear who u don't even see or no and u are cursing him
Dats y some people sleep and don't wake up again
Please dis is just a syt where every is limited to is own opinion y cursing me naaa abi we no each oda b4

stop ranting rubbish my friend! If u dnt av anytin reasonable to say dnt come to public forum.. Simple as ABC

DoctorAbu: Okay....not been here too long, been following comments and couter comments though. And I have no doubt in my mind that ALL NAIRALANDERS ARE DULL.....STONY DULL!

and u are the dullest.. Coz u are a nairalander too and u didnt make any reasonable comment on the topic

Abayomin70: See how people are tinkin

So bcus iran,iraq,afghanistan are terorist den america should not allow dem into there country some people here need to upgrade there brain to d lastest firmware

Y will dey chase dem out dis is total madness

u are the one with complete madness..
What does iraqi travelin to america got to do with hausa fulani claiming ancestral home in where they dnt belong...
How many iraqi has claimed american land?
U are a f0ol with low pedigree

If they refuse to leave.. They should kill them all then

of what use are they to the peace of pleateu and Nigeria?

samkoro: David was just one of the historical figures mentioned in the bible which is ofcourse a history book.David fought wars in defence.Even if he did otherwise,christians do not follow david or any of the old testament figures. Christians follow the live,character and teachings of christ.

Let's get the truth about Christianity and Islam by dwelling strictly on the character of the Christ and Mohamed. Let us leave extraneous figures like david,Musa,jecob and Abdulahi out of this.They may be part of history ,but they are not the center point of the two religion

best answer for that F0ol

FXKing2012: [b]Those wars u listed were not started by Christians, in fact, most of them were started by atheists such as Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, the Japanese emperor, Lenin, Napoleon Bonaparte, etc etc.

Now who crashed two jet liners into the world trade center in US - Muslims
Who bombed the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania - Muslims
Who attacks and kills Christians on Sundays in northern Nigeria - Muslims
Who kills and rapes civilians in Somalia - Muslims
Who has been carrying out suicide bombing in Afghanistan and Pakistan for several years now - Muslims
Who killed hundreds of thousands and forced them into Islam in northern Nigeria - Muslims led by Shaihu Usman dan Fodio
Who killed hundreds of thousands and forced them into Islam in Constantinople (present day Istanbul) - Muslims
Who killed innocent citizens in other parts of the world simply because a Danish cartoonist made a caricature of Mohamed - Muslims
Who is threatening to wipe out Israel from the face of the map - a Muslim nation
Who stones women to death for adultery and witchcraft - Muslims
Who cuts off the hand of those who are accused of stealing - Muslims
The list goes on and on and on. . .[/b]

nice counter

now those bloody foools will come and tell me its a religion of peace...
Peace they never Had

adaybayor: it is not α̲̅ crime not to know but, refusing to know is α̲̅ crime. how many islamic gatherings have you been to that you now seem to know all that are preached by imams and the muslim clerics. You don't just come here and spit poo.

stop saying trash.. Do i have to go to islamic gathring be4 i know that ur religion is about violence.. The Evidence is there for all to see.. (boko haram, alqeda, hezbollah, hamas, alshabab, tuareg, etc) these are evidence that islam doctrine is far from peace... I cant be brainwashed like u boko haram sympathisers.. Kislam means violence take it or leave it

OK.

NEXT

[quote author=jamil!]Uhmmmmmm 8-) i heard this one Can president said his words the query is was it from botton of his heart or just a mere mouthed?[/quote]either frm his heart or his azz.. I dnt care.. He condemned their action. Thats what matters.. Now ask ur clerics to do the same