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Where are the cows ! Where is Evans

Haforlaby777:
Instead of him to apologize, he's still giving excuses to justify his mumu action. who crowned this rogue, they all need a heavy slap

Afolabi, I think that they said that Yoruba have respect, so why say your king and elder action is mumu


So much for the respect

Yoruba Kings shaaaa very funny folks

You don't see Oba of Benin , Obi of Onitsha , Igwe of Nnewi , Emir of Sokoto or even Obi of Agbor or Etsu of Nupe acting like this ...

It's always SW Kings

I hail una

udemzyudex:
Cars of same class?

You know just like phones ,there is midrange and flagship,the cars you're comparing with the Benz you're driving now ,are they in the same class?

How many years have you been driving the Benz compare to others and What's your maintenance culture on both cars?

Bros...the first car I used was Nissan! It showed me pepper ! When I bought a C class ...drove that car 4 years without opening the engine ! Buy Nissan ! Chai

Water pump today, gasket to tomorrow, timing chain next ...it's American model Sunny ex saloon

That was my experience shaaa! This was years anyway ! Cars I avoid as plague are Nissan, mistibushi and Mazda !

9icetoo:
If you took your time to Google like I advised, you would have seen that Benz and other non German cars including Honda's and Toyota's and fords and most especially Volvo's on that list. This Benz was in that list too.
Make una try dey read small. Maybe just maybe you'd let go of this silly German superiority nonsense. Na so world war two take start.

But you said no Benz has reached 1 million mark naaaaa

No be wetin you talk ?

ogbuefi677:
Can't you avoid quoting me?
Pls,na beg I de beg

LoL....he would be doing that.

I no fit laugh

adanny01:
US holds the most patents of the technology in cars. Germans are second to the US. Where is the German feat you talk about?

When you talk about sentiments, count and hate yourself first.

So if USA has the highest and Germany second...so it makes German cars better than Japanese


That's my deductions ....so we are in same page bro

uboma:
Opel spare parts are readily available.


As for the technical hands, you need to search for them.

Great

nurey:
you are very myopic and you need to go out more often.

The oldest Engine you would see in Nigeria is American Engines by Ford or those made by UK, followed by Nissan/Datsun engines. Don't always take Lagos as the basis of everything.

There are 18xx Engines and vehicles still on the road that weren't made by Germans or Japanese.

But Japanese still have older Engines compared to Germans in Nigeria. if you need evidence, I will point you to location, make, model as you deem necessary

Wait ooo 911 is Benz shaaaa and I grew up seeing it

Also Bedford is a strong engine also

All those molue are Benz

nurey:
let me give you ones I snapped before, I am unavailable now and made my point in 2019 but I can't remember the thread

1981 Datsun sunny

Toyota Corolla E30 1974

Nissan atlas F22 1970s

Nice research....I am impressed

uboma:
I beg to disagree.

Opel cars are very reliable.

... maybe it has to do with parts or lack of mechanics

9icetoo:
This topic is not about driving feel but about engine longevity. Google cars that have covered 1 million miles on a single engine. The only German car there is a BMW. The Mercedes there needed three engine transplants.
Modified.
There are quite a few Mercedes on the list.
But the japs are there as well and surprisingly, Volvo ruled the roost.
Splendid.

Is that so?

jaybabs1:
Until you drive a Benz you won't know what you've missed. I went from an almost toks Accord 1996 to a fairly old M.Benz 190 and I said what? What a better performance in the Benz...I stepped up to a C-Class later.

You are right

chiemmanuel:
It's only a foolish man that will die on top of a woman
If the woman is so sex starved, she should be the one to do all the thrusting and love making, she can ride me and get her orgasm, the only thing I will promise her is a long lasting erection
Sex is highly physical, do you know how many kilo joules you burn during sex?
If you like eat 4 wraps of fufu and climb a woman, after sex you must look for another food
A woman will just lie down and you will be going back and forth as if it's where you earn salary,
Women never get satisfied with sex, they do not need an erection to have sex
They are like holes that can be filled, our forefathers never filled it, so why should we
A woman that have sex with you now, can have sex with another man in the e next five minutes
I spend 12 hours at work, and then 2 hours in traffic, when I am supposed to be resting, you want me to be doing shift duty on your body, if a man collapse during sex, the woman will have sex in the next two months, that prostitute that the barrister died on has had sex more than 10 times since then, where is the man?
The irony of this is that all these women shouting harder harder, tear my pussyy, i am not your sister, rearrange my alignment, are very lazy on bed, they can't even spend ten seconds on top of a man, doing cowgirl, they will tell you they are tired

LoOL

He is a good coach irrespective of the crisis in the club

Danishguy:
Like you are being very emotional here.

You can never get your way with insults and intimidation...finally, allow that lone Ngwa not Igbo to continue in his perpetual tomfoolery

I've come across more Ngwas than Yorubas, and not even one ever had a reason to deny being Igbo.

ok

Even my uncle is from Ntigha in ngwa...I was addressing the arm chair critic bro

Fentanyl:







loool

this is the conclusion from the exact article you posted

thank you for making my point for me lol

When you say German cars it's generic...Opel is a German car and that car isn't reliable trust me ! That car is shìt!

So it's not a clear case ! Mine is Benz...I still see a 1979 Benz on the road , I haven't seen a japanes of 1979 model...help me by showing me one sir

I am not an engineer or a man thy have designed an engine before but what I know is that I see this car on the roads and it's popular in the East!

Guess what ? This car is 1979 model and it's over 40yrs still on the roads

To me , I haven't seen a japanes car that is 1979 still on the road...please show us...with the current numbers plate

nurey:
you are very myopic and you need to go out more often.

The oldest Engine you would see in Nigeria is American Engines by Ford or those made by UK, followed by Nissan/Datsun engines. Don't always take Lagos as the basis of everything.

There are 18xx Engines and vehicles still on the road that weren't made by Germans or Japanese.

But Japanese still have older Engines compared to Germans in Nigeria. if you need evidence, I will point you to location, make, model as you deem necessary

I keep seeing people driving 1979 model of flatboot and that car is over 40yrs

Bros those cars you mentioned aren't 1979 cars ....trust me

I talk from experience abi make I no talk again...nawa

It's not arguement! I answered based in experience ...we aren't fighting sir

True....Nissan tops the list...that car dealt with me shaaaa

Wike is living up to his name , for those of you that don't understand Igbo/ikwerre (N)wike means son of a string man or a string child


And that is what he is doing...he took this man to cleaners

ChinenyeN:
You do understand that you are welcome to simply NOT quote or respond to me. Between the two of us here, I am not the one shouting. I am not the one with ruffled feathers, and I am not the one with the misguided notion that an Igbo identity existed before colonial rule. Lol. You obviously don't know much about Igbo history and should probably take the time to study up on it.

BUT, if learning Igbo history is does not suite you, then go and make yourself useful by convincing your ohnuhnu brethren to clean up the trash they've been littering all over Aba for decades now. At this point, any ohnuhnu person who opens their mouth to hold Ngwa people responsible for the trash in Aba and environs is simply being insincere. You ohnuhnu have left Aba to rot, and now it is no longer your responsibility, o'u kwa ya? That's such insincere mentality.

This is a time now when we should all be rallying together to demand more from government at all levels, rather than this wasteful energy you are presenting here to me. There is no other way I can characterize your behavior aside from that it simply deserves a "tufia" from me.

LoL

Apart from personal experience...please hear from Japanese themselves

https://taiken.co/single/japanese-vs-german-cars/


But wait a minute, who compares German engineering with Japanese ! Yes Japanese they have tried in technology but Germans are known for great engineering feats

Let's be honest ...I hate sentiments

Fentanyl:
this is most definitely the worst kind of person to give car related advice, and to take car related advice from

lots of anecdotes, very little substance

I said personal experience....oga expert

Mr. Substance give your own and stop attacking folks ...it's Monday morning

jaybabs1:
Well, I have used three Japanese all Hondas, four Germans (2 Volkswagen brand and 2 M.Benz) I had better engine durability and doggedness with the Germans.

They don't argue that one.. I started with Japanese car ( Nissan) that is the worst car one can ever drive another Mitsubishi ! Those engines are terrible ! Very weak and smokes

But since I switched to Benz! There has been rest of mind !

I talk from my own personal experience having driven both Japanese and now driving a Benz

German engineering.....I still see 1978 Benz 230 flat boots around and I still see 1956 Vboots

But I can't even see 1990 Toyota whatever around


It's German engineering

tolijascro:
Keep the argument narrow....the Yoruba's are the most educated in the country..my point is Yorubas don't fancy going to the east like you guys will jump at every opportunity to come to the west..it shows how backward your region is..we Yoruba's prefer to travel abroad if at all we want to change environment and between pls stop mentioning me I don't have time for your tribal wars abeg

The most educated ? How again!

Can you give us

benhope222:
My Fellow Nl Guys , last Saturday . I was in my Wine Shop I'm Igbo guy , so a guy that looks like a Yoruba guy came to my shop order for hot drink seaman's schnapps , so engage in a fun discussion he told me I will sell better market for this shop say I go grow big pass this level oo. say I'm destined for greatness but I need to buy my own clipper say my head no need public clipper . and he talked about some prayers that I will make with candle and coconut oil I'm gonna see results in my life. so I'm partly a member of cele so I asked him if him be cele . he said na cherubim .

so I collected his number.

I'm wondering this not first time someone have told me about this but in a different way

I'm surprise how he knew I started the business newly . because my shop is filled and he is not someone I see frequently near my shop .

how did he know that I don't have a personal clipper .


He said short prayers I was replying amen .

I noticed something that very day last Saturday

I made a lot sale's customer's were coming %90 of them bought while those that left due to price returned to buy ..

hmmm please share your views abeg ooo.

Trust me, I stay in Lagos , one thing I know for sure is that Yoruba are very superstitious and attribute funny things to petty things....

This is an observation not a trial shade

MelesZenawi:
Lolzz

Igbos done suffer on nairaland ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


No day passes without Igbo topic..

They are great tribe, they are enigmatic...people went to know what makes them thick

It shows that Igbo are awesome

Charleys:
I've never seen an Igbo man give money to Street beggars.

This is why most northern beggars do not like going to the East to beg because there no "market" in the east.

My question is why does these happen?
Let's have reasons, no insult please.

I give ! I don't like stereotypes....why must they come to East to beg, they should come to East to invest not beg

Igbo don't encourage beggerly attitude

Tobrasky:
Majority of the Igbo obsessing bastards are Afonja pigs, but they can do us the honors of giving us the attention online, while we are busy buying up their lands with the Fulani herdsmen taking over their states in a double whammy

Stop tribal wars ....we need unity

SPECIFIC ISSUES

I now address specific issues about the proposed Oduduwa Republic for your consideration.
There is a lot of fantasy, incoherent inconsistencies, phantasmagoria about a Yoruba nation.
Some people have a hidden agenda but they don't want to tell us. All they do is to couch their demand under the dubious revival of a glorious past in a supposed Yoruba republic. We should be careful.
We talk of the past as if the past is Eldorado's. It is not. We talk of Awo as if he was perfect and a saint. He was not. He was a great man, perhaps one of the greatest from this land but he is not god. He never saw himself as such. I am old enough to know him and to read his campaign speeches.
The man who was promoting the Oduduwa Republic from the video footage made some interesting statements. Funny and amusing.
He said Yoruba land had television before France. This is not a good argument, even if it were true.
I ask you, is television an achievement? Was television invented by a Yoruba man or woman? How much of the history of television do we know?
John Baird who invented it cried when he saw the havoc and the perversion of purpose that his invention was been used for as against the intended purpose. That is why it is amusing that in 2020 someone is crediting television as achievement. So i do not see how having a television in 1949 ahead of France gives us any cause for laughter.
Congo has printing as far back as the 18th century before many European nations due largely to Catholic efforts who needed it. Of what use is a technology without the know-how to operate it? Is the PDP a success because the GSM telephony occurs under their watch or because MTN came under their rule?
I am also surprised that someone is celebrating 50- storey in Dugbe, Ibadan as achievement. It is not, it is a bad investment, a developmental mistake. High rise structures are built where there is a constraint of land space. I should know. Ibadan or Southwest did not have that problem in the 1950's or even now.
These are the list of firsts Yoruba's are touting that they want to recreate the Awo miracle. This would be a fatal mistake because none of their proposed leaders is an Awo or in the mode of an Awo or an Aluko for that matter.
And times have changed.
Again I present the following for our consideration.

1. I ask a very pointed question: Would Yorubas live together? A foolish question, you would say. But not so foolish or insolent. The differences are there and the cleavages are there. Because we are in Nigeria often time we don't see them but they are there. In the Oduduwa Republic those differences will now come to the open and magnified. How then do we address them?
The Aladura scholar, Professor J.D.Y Peel noted during his research in Yoruba land in the 1960's that the differences between Yoruba sub tribe, the Ekitis, Ijebus, Egbas, Oyo's etc are as wide as those between the tribes of Nigeria. In other words, the Ekitis are as different from the Ijebus as the Hausa's are to the Ibos. If you have not observed this, you are not very observant. The white man was right.
Because we are together in Nigeria we don't see this but now in the Oduduwa Republic they will cone magnified. How will the Yoruba Republic handle them, because they will not go away.
Will Ijebus accept the rulership of the Egbas? Will Oyo's allow the Ijebus to lord it over them and continue with their exploitation from their bitter history? Will Ijeshas forget their ancient animosity to the Oyo's and what they suffered in their hands or revive them?
That a wound is covered does not mean it has been healed. If the Oduduwa republic becomes a reality you will all see the truth of what I am saying. All the major wars that have been fought in Yoruba land have been fought among Yoruba's themselves. Not outsiders. The Yoruba gods or demons do not destroy strangers, they destroy their own children. Soon you will see what I am saying.

2. We often speak of the Old Western Region as if it was perfect. There were injustices and racism but which we should not reopen for peace sake.
All the projects done by the Action Group government how many of them were sited in Ondo- Ekiti- Ijesha axis? Yet the cocoa plantation and money that made the West came substantially from there. How many cocoa plantation exist in Ijebu- Egbas axis, yet the projects were concentrated here. How just is that? Read Professor Ayandele's breakdown and judge for yourselves. So if there were imbalance even in those days of yore how are we so sure that Oduduwa Republic will not be a miniature Nigeria, with more problems but with less resilience to handle them?
The Itshekiri and Delta regions of Warri actually voted to leave the West and have their own region. If they were fairly treated why did they leave?
The old Ondo and Ekitis equally agitated to have their own state from the West because they saw that they were being exploited by the Ijebus and the Egbas in the West. Will all these now go away when we have Oduduwa republic?

3. We have also forgotten that exploitation is in the nature of man, whether white or black. There is exploitation among Yoruba's too.
Someone is collecting 15% of entire revenue of a state in the Southwest now. And we all know about this and nothing is done about it, yet you are complaining about Nigeria being a failed state. How are you sure Oduduwa republic will not be a greater failure? Which other parts of Nigeria does this happen?
How many states in southwest pay minimum wage? But the North is paying?
So who is the exploiter of the people, their own people?
How many states in the North pays obnoxious pensions to former governors, but southwest do. Which state started this racket?
These are the people and their cronies that will rule the proposed Oduduwa republic. Not the brains but the dregs and the race of usurpers who have profited from years of unrestrained looting of the public till.

4. Have you asked yourself, where is the industrial base that we will use for take off. Virtually all the viable banks, industries etc in Lagos- Ibadan axis today are owned by strangers, not Yoruba's. Have you thought of this?
Rome did not collapse in one day, it was gradual. Yoruba's are yet to see that they are in big mess, far bigger than they envisage, not because of Nigeria but because of themselves.

5.. In the Oduduwa republic which traditional ruler will be supreme? Will Alaafin accept the supremacy of Ooni or viceversa? Or will the dispute continue?

6. Racism and Hegemony among the Yoruba's. There is another serious issue. In the Republic how do we handle the racism and hegemony of the Yoruba's. Perhaps you may not know, I tell you today that there is also racism among the Yoruba.
We have spoken so loud about Hausa- Fulani oligarchy that we have forgotten that there is also Egba- Ijebu hegemony over Yoruba affairs. We used to hammer Kaduna Mafia, but we also forget Ikenne Mafia.
Look at this. During the 2014 Conference, 6 slots was allocated to the Yoruba group, Afenifere and they shared the slits among themselves. Not a single slot was given to anyone to represent Yoruba's in Kogi and Kwara. But when they want to negotiate for power they remember they have their brethren in Kogi and Kwara and that Yoruba land extended to Jebba and Lokoja, but when it comes to representation they forget them. As the Americans say, "Taxation without representation is tyranny "- these are the men, schemers, promoting Oduduwa republic. Please think very well, my people in Kogi and Kwara states, so that you don't change one slave master for another.
What about racism among Yoruba's? It exists. Ijebu racism, that sees everyone as strangers except only they, even in the Church too.
Yorubas have told me, "Can we also call you Yoruba's, those of you from Kwara?" Not once or twice. As a lecturer I knew the trouble fellow Yorubas gave me. I have never heard of a Fulani man doubting the legitimacy of another Fulani because he came from a different place. Neither the Ibos or Hausa's or Ijaws. Only among the ones who call themselves the children of Oduduwa. That is why I wait to see how that republic will work as long as Yoruba's remain who they are. I wait.

THE REALITY OF WAR

I now come to my last issue and conclusion. Here I am talking reality. What does this sum to in real life?
Oduduwa Republic means war. If you don't know, know it now. There cannot be an Oduduwa Republic unless there is a secession of the Yoruba from Nigeria and secession means war, unless two conditions subsist namely:

* If all the stakeholders too agree to go as in defunct USSR or
* If the secessionist group is the largest and the strongest and can bully the others.

The two cases above is not likely to happen,so the implications is war. I hope the promoters know this?
So I ask is Yoruba land today prepared for war with Nigeria?
Mind you,you will not be fighting not just the Fulani's or Hausa's but the whole Nigeria.
Why?
Because Lagos is strategic to Nigeria, to it's economy, prosperity etc thus whoever controls Lagos will not be allowed to leave Nigeria except at the cost of war .

2. Are Yoruba's prepared at this time to face all the regions at the same time? Do we have the wherewithal to prosecute the war?
Hausa's will fight you because they have said and boasted long ago that Yorubas are the next tribe they want to deal with. I heard this in 2010 in Zaria during my research. You will now play into their hands.
The Ibos will fight you because of the poison sown into them over the Civil War that Yorubas betrayed them, which is not true. But most Ibo youths believed this and that is what matters. Some will fight you desperately because you brought Buhari over them whom they have rejected and who has been, to be honest to the fact, an unmitigated disaster.
The Ijaws will fight you for removing Jonathan from power...
The Fulani will fight you for opposing their Fulani Republic on the back of Nigerian wealth.
The Middle belt may fight you for creating their misery through Buhari..
And so on.
I don't know how you will win this battle. I don't see how you can win all these with things as they are.
No, I am not a defeatist, I am realist.

4. Division among the Yoruba's. Even when there is unity success in battle is not assured, how much when there is division?
Are Yoruba united at this time? I doubt it. There are islamists who are even opposed to Amotekun and don't see anything wrong with Buhari, a fellow Muslim. Everything Buhari does is okay like our rubber stamp Senate. Islamists, there are islamists among Yoruba's. They will oppose and can even be the fifth columns in a war.
There are still politicians who are benefiting from Nigeria who have made investment towards 2023 and want to see their ambition realised. And they have their cronies, tools, aides, who control the press, the traditional power of the southwest. This will not be keen on any Oduduwa Republic. They can subvert it.
So with all these how do you win a war with Nigeria?

5. People who have never seen a war are usually happy and excited about war but war must be avoided at all cost. Unless it becomes inevitable.
As a Christian I am not a pacifist, I am a Just War theorist in the mold of Augustine and Martin Luther. I will fight if it comes to that, but not for an Oduduwa Republic that is now being promoted in view of all I have raised here.
No one is driving Yoruba's from Nigeria, so why leave? All the evils been enumerated Yoruba's too have a hand in them and if Oduduwa Republic is created today they will still manifest those problems. So what is the hazzle?
You only know when a war begins no one knows when it would end. Think of the Sudanian Civil War.
I warn these youths and elites promoting this venture to tread softly. It is better not to fight than to fight and win. War is evil. Only when it is Just War as conceptualized by Cicero, Augustine etc. A just war is any war fought to stop aggression or remove the cause of evil. My next article will be on this.

CONCLUSION

In view of all I have said here I think the time is not right for a secession. We should promote and canvass Sovereign National Conference where we can have a return to regionalism or even a confederal arrangement mutually agreed upon.
We did not have a civil war in 1993 yet we brought down the military without firing a shot. That is power.
We don't need a revolution of fighting, that is what brought us here. What we need is a revolution of perception, to quote David Icke.
Fighting changes nothing. You become what you fight.
Gandhi brought down a British empire in India without firing a shot. That is what we need.
The problem of Nigeria is that we have never really had a government worth its name. We have no leaders but mascaras, jesters and clowns. Most of what we blame on Nigeria are actually troubles caused by misleadership.
But hatred should not be reason to leave a nation. You cannot found a nation on hatred, frustration, mutual antagonism. That is why the Oduduwa republic promoters should watch it. Nations are built on ideals, values, ethos, truths, vision not hate, mutual antagonism, misgivings etc. That is what caused APC problem. They came together to float a party not on any ideology but on hatred of PDP and Jonathan. And now that Jonathan and PDP are no more in sight they deploy the same hate to each other and know not what to do with Nigeria. Look at Ogun State, Edo state, Ondo, state etc., they are fighting each other. Those who sow the wind reap the whirlwind.
Too bad.
Thanks for your patience, dear reader.

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