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Here are my reasons why I oppose any Oduduwa Republic at this time or any secession from Nigeria. I shall take this under three specific headings:

1. GENERAL ISSUES

A secession of the Yoruba from Nigeria or the creation of an Oduduwa Republic at this time would be wrong for the following reasons:

1. Yorubas made the required investment that made Nigeria possible. If you have read the history of nationalism and of nationalist struggles and agitations against colonial rule you will know that Yoruba's made more contributions than any other tribe or group to make Nigeria possible. Although Achebe claimed that Ibos alone fought for Nigeria independence in his badly- received, badly- edited divisive and tendentious book THERE WAS A COUNTRY, this claim cannot stand under scrutiny or faced with authentic history. The Macaulays, Paynes, Majas, Pearces etc and most of the names known to give trouble to the Europeans to force them to leave were Yorubas. Thus it would be wrong to agitate for Nigeria Independence and then turn away from Nigeria.
If it is not working, then make it work. This is the first argument against secession of the Yoruba from Nigeria.

2. The evils we complain about in Nigeria also exist in Yoruba land and among Yorubas. The young elites who want to take Yoruba's out of Nigeria complain of many evils in the nation. True. But these evils too exist among us and Yorubas are not exempted from them. Remember the Soka Hill discovered in Ibadan where human parts were being sold to rich clients for years - in Yoruba's land. Same also have been found n several other places in Southwest. An Islamic slave labour camp was discovered recently in Ibadan almost as bad as the ones in the North. Human "poultry " have been found in Akute, Ogun State, Abeokuta etc where teenage girls are kept by their super madam to be sired by young men to breed like rabbits to be sold to rich clients with much money and little sense. How about cultism and cultic warfare in Ikorodu, Lagos, Ibadan, Abeokuta which are regular features of news item?
In Yoruba land. So every evil in Nigeria exists also among us. Thus leaving Nigeria solves nothing, it only compounds the problems because it now spread the same evils on a small area.

3. The question should be asked: Why should we leave Nigeria at this time? If we are leaving, why are we leaving?
Because of bad leadership of Muhammadu Buhari and the APC. The major reason today causing this agitation was the misrule of the last five years under this government and the promotion of Fulani hegemony over the whole nation. So I asked should Yoruba's leave because of Buhari?
Really? Okay. Questions:
Who made Buihari presidency possible? Who elected Buhari as president of Nigeria? Not the Ibos. Not the South south people. It was Yoruba votes that brought this disaster of a government upon us, this "one chance" of a government upon this nation. In 2015 it was so and this error of a government was reinforced again by the Yoruba in 2019 in Ekiti, Osun, Ondo and Lagos where Buhari won. The Ibos rejected him both in 2015 and 2019.
So if Nigeria is becoming a failed state because of Buhari Yorubas have a hand in it. You cannot cause a problem and then run away from the consequences. Asking for Oduduwa Republic now is like that. You cannot leave while the house is on fire: your founding fathers asked for Nigeria from the British and you voted Buhari and financed him into office for which you now regret. Be brave, you cannot leave without first solving the problem you helped birthed into Nigeria.

4. Most of the problems that plagued Nigeria today are also caused by all of us including Yoruba's. Yoruba elites describe Nigeria as a failed state, a rogue state. In fact it is worse. It is a bandit state, a gargantuan occult republic run by syndicates and gangster collectives. Read Claude Ake, it is worse.
Yes, that is true but that is not the whole truth. Yoruba's too contributed to making Nigeria into the failed state that it is today. It is time Yorubas, we tell ourselves the truth. We love to tell others the truth but we should once in a while tell each other.
Sometimes we talk as if Yoruba is perfect as if there are no evils on our hands. We accuse Balewa of declaring state of emergency in the West. True. But would he have done that if we have not given him the occasions to do so? If they had not found a mole within us?
* Who betrayed Awo at the Treasonable trial in 1963? Who were the Prosecution witnesses, the judge that sentenced him "whose hands were tied "?
* Who betrayed Abiola to Abacha telling him all the movements of the man?
* Who traded June 12, to form political parties which they called Alliance for Destruction ( apologies to Gani Fawehinmi)?
* Who betrayed Diya to Abacha telling him what he did not say?
* Who defended the mathematical fraud of 122/3 = 13 in 1979 to foist that NPN gang, a consortium of robbers on Nigeria?
* Which chief Justice gave the judgment and said that judgment must never be referred to?

* Which military head of state ensured by all means that NPN won and told Nigerians before the elections that the " best candidate need not win the election "?
* Who imposed Yar'Adua on the PDP as candidate in 2007 and rigged him into office as President?

* Who drafted Jonathan, our Dr. "Clueless" from Otuoke whose mindless looting regime occasioned this "one chance" of a government under which we are now trapped?
Let every Yoruba son and daughter sincerely ask himself those questions above and ask who those people are whether they are Yorubas or not. If they are Yoruba's then Yoruba too contributed heavily to Nigeria's problems.
Do the promoters of Oduduwa Republic know this? Are they aware that their own parents and kinsmen are part of those who compounded the problems of Nigeria and made it, in the words of one British racist, "a nation where the worst never happens but the best is impossible." Oh Britain, treacherous Britain, the blood of Nigeria be upon thee!

All the problems we complain about in Nigeria Yoruba have their own share of them and even more than their own share in their formation, fruition, nurturing and development.
Take cultism that has now become the one single monster tearing Nigeria before the advent of kidnapping and ransom taking.
A Yoruba man brought cultism to the Nigerian Church. Yorubas brought cultism to the judiciary and the legal profession. And need I tell you that 7 young scholars started Fraternity in our universities, most of whom are of Yoruba extraction and parentage? That seed has now bludgeoned to cultism that has infested every campus, both teachers and students and out youths today.
Let me stop here.
My point is Yoruba's too have a hand in Nigeria's problems. If Nigeria is today a rogue state, a bandit state, we too helped in making it so just like the Ibos, Hausa-Fulanis etc. I refuse to blame any tribe for what has happened to Nigeria. We are all involved and we must all solve this together. Leaving the Union is defeatism and a nation is not built on defeatism or on frustration.

@Moses Oludele Idowu wrote.

AGAINST SECESSION : A TESTAMENT TO YORUBA LEADERS AND THE PROMOTERS OF ODUDUWA REPUBLIC

By Moses Oludele Idowu

I saw a video footage yesterday of a group of young Yoruba elites canvassing the creation of Oduduwa Republic. The spokesman claimed that they are not even interested in Restructuring, that it is late in the day, but the creation of Oduduwa Republic. Carrying placards they insist they are fed up with Nigeria and that Nigeria has been a setback for the Yoruba's because in 1949 when Yoruba's had the television even France did not have it. That Yoruba's were ahead of Korea in the 1950's but today we have been derailed by Nigeria.

These were their arguments, which as I will soon show are no arguments at all.
I write to you leaders of Yoruba's to warn you to be careful, extremely careful so that you don't make some fatal error that will set Yoruba's further back. The times have changed and we must address issues within the context of time or we shall fail in our endeavour. Some days ago I had an epiphany of a secession of Yoruba's and I am not surprised that some are making underground moves to actualise this end.
However, permit me to say some words for our consideration. I think it will be a serious mistake at this time for Yoruba's to contemplate secession from Nigeria and the repercussions will be grave if not incalculable. It was Albert Einstein who once said, "Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance." I believe we have done due diligence and proper investigation before this course of action? I hope the youths promoting this venture know the implications and consequences of what their actions would bring and spring in their time?

It is the Yorubas who say that when a child stumbles he looks forward but when an elder stumbles he looks backward to see the cause. Let us look backward and also forward to see why Yorubas have been stumbling in Nigeria and see the cause; we will be surprised who we would see. The enemy is ourselves. The enemy of the Yoruba is the Yoruba and secession will not stop the stumbling because it would only take the theatre to a different space.

I must tell you that I am opposed to any form of secession, unilateral secession of the Yoruba from Nigeria at this point in time. Soon you will know why.
However if other stakeholders agree at a Conference Table that the Nigerian project is no longer workable and there should be a mutual separation then that becomes a different thing.

conductor259:
Kidnap somebody that drives a 20-year-old fuel guzzler? After repairing the shitbox which money he go use bail himself?

This one pain am shaaaaa

Let me North come and see what Islam is

Cherez:
I have come to know that most if not all Nigerians are tribalistic.
So, you expect an Igbo man who lost his brother to the python dance to wake up and accept your words up there?
Igbos are not angry at the Yorubas and here is my proof;
In the last decade, can you point out to one stuff the Igbos raised or supported the Yorubas applauded?
Did you go through Twitter on this Amotekun issue? The Igbos were 1000% behind the SW regardless of the fact they have issues?
On this NL, you remember how "potor-potor" and pics of the army humiliating Igbo boys were being hailed till date? Bros, an average Igbo man will never do same to a Yoruba man.
I bet you today, if APC fields Osibanjo, you will be amazed the vote that man will amass in the SE.
The Igbos are only angry at the Yorubas cos they believe the Yorubas support the main people dragging Naija.
Now, I maybe biased a bit to judge PMB's leadership (though I voted him in 2015 but gave up in 2017), judge yourself and see how he subtly shields the herdsmen with their carnages. The Igbos just feels if not for the Yorubas, PMB won't have had the privilege.
I'm not against the SW for supporting PMB cos everyone even Igbos seek their comfort.

Can we reduce tribalism and be united in South

ashacot:
Peter Obi gooffed for attending the burial of Nnamdi kanu's parent. He Obi is nursing the ambition to contest the next presidential election. Going to the burial or a FUGITIVE and a secessionists is very wrong. Obi just armed his rivals what to use against him in 2023 elwction. All they will do is to distribute picture of obi attending the burial of an unrepentant secessionists who is doing everything to break the country. They may accuse him of trying to win the presidency position to break the country .

I am not saying obi shouldn't have sympathize with the Kings family but he should have done it differently by sending message across.

What obi needs right now is to build bridges not indirectly burning them. Most people will see him as an IPOB ALLY NOW and he wants to rule Nigeria

So attending a burial which is a personal thing isn't okay

shortgun:

AmuDimkpa abeg stop wasting your precious time .
They say Benz is not reliable yet they are angry that a 20 year old Benz is still strong on the Road flogging the latest Japanese carton.

Let them show us how many 20 year old Japanese casket on wheels that the owners can be proud of today

I have ignored him ! He even said that I should post my car papers to him ! Me I don't understand him again!

Is he loosing it ! He said he is so rich that his everyday car would buy 10 Benz...I hail am

Next thing he come tell me say make I post my car papers to him ! Me I no come understand the guy again

I tell am okay say I no get ML again...dude still dey troll dey ask make I post the car papers....

Nothing wet person no go see for Nairaland! A super rich man asking poor me to send him his car paper!

Is he a kidnapper ?

conductor259:
Send it to my DM if you're afraid.

Bye bye. Dont ever disturb us with an ML shitbox that was registered by somebody who sold who sold to you.

Dude is a clown! As In you are VIO officer ! You go wait tire!

I no get ML again oga...are you happy now ?

Bounce oga richest man in the whole world

EnterpriseMan:
If only Lexus can perform as good as your mouth, it would be a decent car. I have used lexus, and its absolutely rubbish. When Lexus actually start making high performance car, then maybe it would be half as decent as audi

My dear we don hear them tire ! LoL....

The obsession is so real here ! The hate is deep and their anger is legendary

conductor259:
Is your shitbox not an old, recycle, overused Nigerian ML? Post your car particulars here. If the proof of ownership bears your namend not the name of the person you bought it from, let me bend like crayfish.

So I should post my car particular for you to prove ! Do you think I am here for dìck measurements! Dude I don't know you from Adam, so why should I post my papers for you to know... As in to impress you or what ?

Okay, I no get ML ...are you happy now !

Bye

conductor259:
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To people like you, if they give you 1m dollars, you will buy 1m dollar car. I'm sure thats why you are driving a 20-year-old German ancient of days.

To some of us, not driving a car does not mean we don't have the money to do so. Toyota cars reeks of maturity you will not find elsewhere thats why corporate organizations and governments use them. You won't tell me your governor does not have money to buy Rolls Royce or he doesn't know where they are selling it or that heaven will fall when he buys it.

And pls, a 2008 Landcruiser is about 11m. I'm sure if I'm desperate to drive a Landcruiser I can find a used 2006 one for less than 5m. No, that is not what

What I mean by driving a Landcruiser is driving the latest version (or at least a 3-year-old one) with 2 to 3 of similar cars in convoy alongside 3 to 5 Hilux as escort. And before you do such, you have to know how much you have in your account and what you mean to the society. That's what I mean by driving Landcrusier. Sorry that this one is beyond your knowledge, Benzedes fanboy

Dude dress...I am done with you! You ain't making sense anymore ..trust me

I think you need a session! But mark my word, I am done with have any conversation with you ...oga richest man in the universe

Bye

shortgun:
Iseee!

May they never own a Benz in this life.

Iseee

ibbabah:
Guys make una go buy Benz and stop disturbing us abeg. Why leave ur thread and worry us here. If we choose to drive Mercedes Benz all our lives, that’s not ur business oooh. But when you finally buy one just enjoy the passion of owing one.

One said that h is so rich that his daily car buys 10 Benz and went ahead and post Nigerian used ML....

I never knew that matured men can be so insecured and clownish!

I wasted my time ever having a conversation with them! I would never try that again!

It is psychological and obsession! I am seeing it

It's a shame and to think that these are men, maybe they are boys actually! Because no man can descend this low ! I dey shame for them shaaa

conductor259:
So when I grow up instead of aspiring to drive the world's ultimate vehicle, the Toyota Landcruiser or Lexus LX570 - like my governor, I will go back to driving Benzedes that I drove even before you learnt what a car throttle is. Even my current everyday car can purchase 10 pieces or more of the same Benzedes relic that you and logobenz/nwanneni are driving. In fact, particularly, it will buy Nwanneni's shitbox about 20 times

We don hear! Here e everyone is a billionaire!

LoL....how many people you dey give food here oga billions in account , if I may ask ?

You see why I said there is a lot of growing up to do ! You keep proving it !


Abeg no vex ...the richest man in universe ! You don win!

Can we poor folks talk about our poor cars

conductor259:
So when I grow up instead of aspiring to drive the world's ultimate vehicle, the Toyota Landcruiser or Lexus LX570 - like my governor, I will go back to driving Benzedes that I drove even before you learnt what a car throttle is. Even my current everyday car can purchase 10 pieces or more of the same Benzedes relic that you and logobenz/nwanneni are driving. In fact, particularly, it will buy Nwanneni's shitbox about 20 times

Oga richest man and everyday car! We aren't here to measure dìcks, we have seen billions in your account and that is your level, tuale for you the richest man in the universe! All hail conductor the richest man!

We don hear you! We heard you Loud and clear ! Can you at least leave us lesser mortals to talk about our lesser things !

To you Toyota Land cruiser is your ultimate vehicle

To others is Rolls Royce Cullinan
While others is Range Rover limited edition autobiography
While to others it's BMW X5 2020 edition
To others it's jaguar SUV
While to others it's Maybach
While to others like us afficianados it's GLX 500 Mercedes
While others it's Lincoln SUV
While others it's Cadillac SUV
To others it's Mesarati Levante 2020

It's about taste you know...all of us wouldn't have the same taste! Some have higher taste whine some like you a e theirs also

So as you can see, you have a lot of growing up to ! So when you grow up, please aspire for your Toyota we have other things to aspire for and we have our choice cars

It's all about taste...

Thank you for your anticipated cooperation! Toyota billionaire! We hail ooo


Nothing wet person no go see for nairaland shaaa

Nairaland is a funny place ! I must say

souldeep:
Thanks for such a wonderful review and advice. Have seen so many people riding dat SUV for years and lots are still buying it so wondering why the guy referred to it as a junkyard. I'll go with ur advice. thanks.

Well, what I know is that I drive the car and the engine hasn't given me an issue before and the gear is cool...the ride is smooth and not noisy ! People are still buying that car and the 04 is over 2 miili and the AMG version is awesome


Make e no be say na me talk am...look at this reviews
Mind you they are from a reputable car site
https://www.cars.com/research/mercedes_benz-m_class-2001/consumer-reviews/

micluv111:
I see all those craps they wrote up there.....

Just bunch of sadists

One even said that Audi was a terrible car! Can you imagine someone driving some funny Japanese saying that Audi and Benz are terrible cars!

These kids can be funny shaaa ...these are cars that have been winning races year in and out ! Some clown was even asking when Benz won their last F1 race that Toyota isn't even in the know...I showed him...dude shut up

Thy would grow up! I know , with time they would understand that there is more to a car !

souldeep:
Lolll, getting me more confuse. Though it's not gonna be my 1st car.

Bros let me break it down for you ! Go and confirm at Ladipo all these

The engine of ML 320 (04 MODEL) Is 120k full engine and it rarely die while the half engine is around 70k while RX300 engine is 180k! And that engine can overheat

Bro the gear of ML 320 is 65k , but trust me the gear rarely die! It has a sensor that protects the gear and the ear enters limp mode as a form of protection. It is standard in Benz cars. Limp mode is a protection software that helps the gear ! But this isn't in RX300, the gear with auxiliary of that RX cheapest is 150k with auxiliary and the gear can give trouble ! There is even a thread here in nairaland That is dedicated to Lexus RX gear problem!

ML 320 Shocks the whole 4 is 30k only... And it would last 4 yrs minimum , go and price ordinary corolla (Uber car) and or RX that one wouldn't last 12 months !

I have friends that drive these Japanese and we even exchange notes !

micluv111:
Haaaa

Is not good o

No that is the truth bro...they said that Benz are shitbox...all I say is that may they never drive Benz in their lives ...it's as simple as that !

souldeep:
Lolll, getting me more confuse. Though it's not gonna be my 1st car.

Dude he is giving you links and I am talking to you as a driver , also know that what you are driving is a V6 engine that weighs a ton! That SUV is a thank !

Don't ask clowns about cars ask those that own the car randomly! Get a first hand experience...it's an SUV and don't think you are going for some small 1.4 engine .. dude that ride is a monster and it commands respect! It's a 3.2 engine and 12 fūcking plugs but not noisy , it's quiet!

ML is a good SUV, remember you aren't buying a highlander or that one they call baby ọkụ ! You are driving a Benz !

Remember the best or nothing...of you can't handle it...abeg go buy honda Babyboy or bulldog! Spend the better of your money repairing pulled legs or go get a Toyota and be ringing the engine every 2 yrs

Dude it's left for you....Benz isn't a car for kids but it's a car that when you drive it, you would find it hard to drive Japanese ! I own one and this isn't my first Benz !

It's a good ride ! I drive it ! It has great features ! The entertainment systems awesome, great buttons , nice climate controls

ibbabah:
Bro you nailed it. I have been driving Peugeot for the past five years, a day came by and I had the chance to drive Benz. The test driving gave something that I couldn’t let go. That was how I had to port from Peugeot to Benz straight ahead.
Is so true that as you grow, you would definitely want a taste of the different stages in life and that include driving a Mercedes Benz.
Those arguing about Mercedes Benz today calling it shitbox will surely get one for themselves someday. So I don’t see the need for this argument.

I know that most of them are kids or they are buying their first cars ! You know that feeling of my first car is the best ! It is crazy that some clowns are even comparing Japanese with German engineering .. don't worry very soon they would compare Camry with Mesarati , Cullinan or S Class (limited editions)

I was of that opinion when I had my lousy Japanese car! That Nissan is so fūcked that if I am doing 120km/h it would look as if I am driving a paper. My orientation changed the day I drove a Benz C class ...that was it

I know they are kids, with time they would understand that there is more to car than transport !

Benz to me comes with safety! There is this feeling of safety when you drive Benz !

If they say it's a shit box, may they never drive a Benz in their life!

leicestercamper:
Every Abia man is cursed, they don't care about the situation of their state, no wonder people like chef2000 aka okpalanambra are on nairaland wasting away.

Ngwa People are the most funniest! Very terrible lot! They don't mind living in dirty shitty backwards environment! A very big disgrace to the Igbo nation...they are the most backward group in the whole Igbo nation ...with their clownish brother Okezie

ChinenyeN:
Lol. If you are basing your entire response on the premise that an Igbo identity existed before British colonial rule, then you and I obviously have nothing to discuss.

If Ngwa disgraced you so much, then do like your fellow Nigerians; disown us. Igbo culture and Nigerian culture loves to disown people and things. So save yourself this childish and foolish headache and disown us so we can all go about our business. A na-ekwu, a na-eme. Show us that you're serious. Come and show us that you and your Igbo people are serious. Mtcheww. Nonsense.

Dude go and sleep, you guys have nothing to offer ! Go and clean up your shitty ABA first before we can talk

Armchair historian

Smartchoiice:
Ignore it.

that is the best.... Approach

Clowns everywhere...trust me

valx2:
Igbos don't like to read but they have been ahead of your tribe and your slave masters in educational performance since past ten years.

Chai ! I forgot that statistics care there

mejai:
Enough of this! This thread is not what it used to be. Make una sheath swords. Benz owners or would be owners are not find it funny.

That is the problem, we have told them that we don hear say Japanese Lexus and Mazda are the best cars they should just get out of the thread...yet they wouldn't

If you have Benz questions abeg ask us. We are here , we talk from owners point if view not trolls

shortgun:
author=AmuDimpka post=86691709]

That is s good car, the SUV doesn't consume much! Ensure that your catalyst is good and make sure that you have your plugs good.

It's a good car and the parts are great and not that expensive, the full engine is around 120k , the full gear (transmission) is around 60k....but trust me these things would last you long and that is why they are a bit cheap ! It is a rugged SUV!

you would love the cruise control , just like other Benz products and the interior illumination and compass coordinates at the centre morrow are few of the things that make that ride a luxury with the electric seats with heaters !

You would enjoy the surround system of Bose speakers and the safety of the car...it comes with 6 air bags standards and get used to sensors !

Some come with reverse sensors ! It's a great ride !

Go for it ! You wouldn't regret it ! Also there is a computer that calculates this in the car! It is displayed on top of the central mirrow of the car with calander. Benz built an efficient SUV there ....

souldeep this is the best review you can ever get anywhere.....and it's free.
Better you listen to AmuDimkpa cos he's a real Benz owner.
He has used the SUV.... He has all the experience about maintenance and all.
Don't listen to the other nuisance that have never owned a Benz all his life.
Na inferiority complex n frustration dey worry am.
You are welcome

That is why I am worried with these Toyota Lexus trolls, they are making a mess of these thread...they haven't owned any Benz , they have not driven any yet they come here and make noise ! They are busy clout chasing and trying to measure up with Benz ...u have advised that guy, he can either listen or listen to Toyota guys. It remains me when I was driving Japanese, they said that Benz is problematic and guzzles fuel, until I drove my first Benz , a C class 230 (Elegance) then I realised that Benz doesn't consume fuel , I enjoyed the handling and made me stuck to Benz...then I went for ML320 (04) that is a great SUV...maybe the next in few ears is ML350 or GL 450

I just love Benz products! Then BMW and maybe Volvo ! I no fit for all these Japanese wahala again ! I don leave that

backnbeta:
My brother, the war is on the whole South o, not only Yoruba land. The herdsmen terrorists are everywhere, if your people also set up this kinda committee, they'll find them in the deep woods if they comb very well! Anyways, I hope they do something about this...not just discover, but they must use Amotekun to dismantle their camps

Yes but the way have no land, I learnt why they slapped the Owo monarch was because the elders and kings around Owo were selling lands to herdsmen ...it was allegedly

Now this is were the SW has thrown the whole south into

We warned them in 2014 they said they are sophisticated, we warns them in 2018, they deployed touts


Now here we are ....ndị sophisticated

souldeep:
Morning all. I planned getting the Benz ML320 2003 model and I'll like to know how efficient is the fuel consumption from someone who has used or currently using the car.

Welcome to the club, the Benz badge is a prestige ! Go for it

Fentanyl:
looool my comrade at arms

keep battling the forces of German fake superiority at all times and from all corners, solidarity is assured

it was the same fake superiority that made Mercedes benz side with Hitler and the Nazi Party while they committed the worst atrocities in history and used Jewish slaves to get rich

now merzedes wants to claim classy upmarket brand

they were deceptive and evil then, and they are deceptive and evil now

nonsense and merzedes

Comrades in arm? Oh the hate is a war and do or die

Now I understand the psychology...it is a pity

Bro grow up