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Jesus is not God

God is God.

Similar to all the other Abrahamic religions, christianity is a manufactured religion, and the reason it was forced upon Africans was due to an ancient Eurocentric project known as the "World Order".

That project began by the Romans thousands of years ago.

Initially all of Europe and parts of Asia abide by the laws and moral code of Africa.

Then one Roman Emperor (see more on the Flavian connection) deviced a plan that would enable Europe to dominate the globe both militarily and spiritualy.

His plan was dubbed "The World Order", it was during these times that Libya was invaded as the first post-pharaonic military campaign ever launched by Europe on African soil under the stewerdship of Portugal and Spain with the so-called blessing of the then Pope.

Its important to note that Rome was never stationary, Rome moved its administrative capital on various occasions, the most commonly talked about being Constantinople that is the modern day Istanbul in Turkey.

Rome is actually a Eurocentric political concept. One that only allows for European and or their descendants domination of the world.

The "World Order" and the so-called "New World Order" are one and the same.

The adherents of the "World Order" spend hundred and thousands of years trying to nail down their unwitty claims of superiority over everyone else.

What happened was that the Romans use all the intellectual tools available to their Emperor and political class to lay their foundation of world domination.

They use psychological, sociological and military inteligence to reach their goals and objectives.

The Asians also caused havoc. Its argued that if the Asian war mongerers hadnt launched their crazy holy wars inside the continent, the Eurocentric Crusaders would never have made the military progress they achieved on the continent.

Neither the trans Atlantic slave trade nor Colonisation would never had taken place.

The argument that the Europeans won most of their crazy battles because of internal conflict is false.

Most of the internal conflicts at the time was created or exacerbated by the adherents of the "World Order"

The reason they made in roads was due to the earlier Arab wars and military campaigns combined with the Christian missionaries and Jewish missionaries that precede the crazy dash for African treasure. There was also some local traitors. They, the missionaries and traitors, were emmisaries and spies to Europe's political class and they reported much of the situation on the ground.

The scramble for Africa was a calculated campaign that involved the political classes from all over Europe, Eurocentric Royalists of the entire continent of Europe, Christian and Jewish adherents; multiple meetings and various conferences.


It's rummoured that if you visit the Madonna chapel at the Vatican there is a model of mother and child representation of African divinities,  some call it the "black Jesus", whilst some argue that it supppse to represent Isis and Horus as these was the Roman Empire's chosen religion at the time; the one that preceeded Roman Catholicism.

hupernikao:
Are you joking?
Is this how you will prove a believe wrong?
Just by saying "everyone knows" (whatever this means), "Krishna", "Christos", "Character" etc 

Firstly, you misconscrue what has been said here. Let me put it into its proper perspective.

And maybe you wont misconcrue it yet again.

Amujale:
The tecktonics site makes a wrong and disingenous argument.

Everyone knows that Christianity was manufactured in the 1st century. Ancient Egypt mythology predates Christianity in years that amount in their hundreds and thousands.....

Amujale:
The character known as Jesus is a Roman invention, created out of many ancient icons like Budha, Ela, Horus, Krishna, Romulus e.t.c

Now lets explore the similarities between the Jesus chatacter and the Krishna one.

Christos is a common name in the Greek community aswell as another name for Krishna.

Let me expand on this further, the word 'Christ' is said to come from the Greek word 'Christos', which means "the anointed one".

'Krishna' in Greek is the same as 'Kristos' which means "the anointed one"

hupernikao:
No single explanation, reference, historical evidence.

musicwriter:
If you want to know why, who, when and where your bible came from and who wrote it, read the book Caesar's Messiah. It explains historically who wrote the bible. It was made into a documentary. See the documentary below.

CAESAR'S MESSIAH.
Origin of Christianity- The Flavian Dynasty Connection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nYUJTRos5o&t=40s

Secondly, the image depicted below is that of Horus the son of Osiris and Isis. In his hand he holds an Ankh.

Those are not the spoken words of the Jesus character but that of Horus:

 

Amujale:
The Jesus character was invented by the Romans

He takes out of various older characters, the most popular is Horus and this due to the striking characteristics they both possess.

The obvious one is the Mother-Child relationship,

Isis and Horus
Mary and Jesus

Then you have them using similar terminology:

"I am Horus in glory . . . I am the Lord of the Light . . . I am the victorious one . . . I am the heir of endless time . . . I, even I, am he that knoweth the path of heaven"


Then you have the "Ankh", according to Ancient Egyptians is supposed to be the symbol of re-birth or reincarnation. The one Horus is holding in the depiction below.

Furthermore, assuming you are looking for evidence, then you have a catalogue of content that you ought to research upon.

Your comment about their being no evidence, explanation or historical reference is flawed and disengenuous.

The character known as Jesus is a Roman invention, created out of many ancient icons like Budha, Ela, Horus, Krishna, Romulus e.t.c

Now lets explore the similarities between the Jesus chatacter and the Krishna one.

Christos is a common name in the Greek community aswell as another name for Krishna.

Let me expand on this further, the word 'Christ' is said to come from the Greek word 'Christos', which means "the anointed one".

'Krishna' in Greek is the same as 'Kristos' which means "the anointed one"

The list of pre-christianity divinities, heroes, kings and queens who claim to have been "born of a virgin" or miraculously birth includes the following:

Ra
Apis
Horus
Krishna
Buddha
Hetshepsut
Pharoah Amenophis III
Zoroaster
Melchizedek
Cyrus
Plato
Julius Caesar
Apollonius of Tyana
Taliesin
Merlin
Llew Llaw
Fohi
Lao-Kium


Even the story of the gifts from the kings and the "three wisemen" has been told before in ancient Egypt aswell as during the birth of Krishna.

Ancient Egyptian mythology predates Hinduism, Hinduism predates Christianity.

Krishna predates the invention of the Jesus character.

Another reason to conclude that Jesus is a fraudulent character invented by evilsic Romans.

RandomGuy48:
This claim gets made on the Internet sometimes, but it's nonsense. People will list supposed "parallels" between Jesus and them, but if you actually do research you'll find out they're often outright made up. This site examines a lot of these supposed parallels and explains why they're inaccurate:
http://www.tektonics.org/copycathub.html

The tecktonics site makes a wrong and disingenous argument.

Everyone knows that Christianity was manufactured in the 1st century. Ancient Egypt mythology predates Christianity in years that amount in their hundreds and thousands.

The Jesus character was invented by the Romans

He takes out of various older characters, the most popular is Horus and this due to the striking characteristics they both possess.

The obvious one is the Mother-Child relationship,

Isis and Horus
Mary and Jesus

Then you have them using similar terminology:

"I am Horus in glory . . . I am the Lord of the Light . . . I am the victorious one . . . I am the heir of endless time . . . I, even I, am he that knoweth the path of heaven"


Then you have the "Ankh", according to Ancient Egyptians is supposed to be the symbol of re-birth or reincarnation. The one Horus is holding in the depiction below.

The authors of Abrahamic text plagerized Ancient Egyptian text and religious concepts as they did with various many others.

These similar pattern is also identified with relationships between Jesus and Krishna, Jesus and Buddha e.t.c

Hence, the reason one can readily conclude that Jesus is a ficticious character.

Derrinclay:
Thank you for your reply I want to know,is the old testament in the bible the abrahamic text?

Yes, the old testament in the bible is part of Abrahamic religious text.

Abrahamic religious text comprises of the writings in the Bible, Torah and Quran.

All of which are said to be peddling the same characters and storylines.

musicwriter:
How are you bro？Hope everything is fine.

Im good bro & you?

Thank you.

musicwriter:
Of course, I also used to believe in Jesus when I was a fool. And if you really believe in the words in bold, then its arrogant of you talking about Jesus and the bible, instead of listening to the Jews who the Messiah were promised.

If you want to know why, who, when and where your bible came from and who wrote it, read the book Caesar's Messiah. It explains historically who wrote the bible. It was made into a documentary. See the documentary below.

CAESAR'S MESSIAH.
Origin of Christianity- The Flavian Dynasty Connection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nYUJTRos5o&t=40s

Teach!

hupernikao:
Where did you get the bolded from
Abeg focus on the discussion here, explain how John 1:1 should be read. If you cant then go and open another thread for your discussion. If it worth it based on the depth and explanation, i will be ready to engage you there.

The Jesus character is a ficticious one.

The Jesus character is an invention of the Romans.

The concept of God is real and unaffected by the fakery of manufactured religions.

hupernikao:
You are yet to prove any of your words above yet you want to prove my own words.

Learn to prove your own words first before disproving others. The discuss here is intellectual and you have to show you are capable of that by putting down your own explanation not gists.

Go and do a comprehensive study and then do explanation of all the claims you put above. It is clear that you dont even appreciate proper and diligent study for you to have mixed history together in this internet age where e-search will help you.

Stop this attitude of trying to prove and disprove without depth. You havent explained anything since than to be throwing shaded on other people's explanation. That isnt good for you.

Your responses to my post are inconsequential.

You claim to want proof why Abrahamic religious text are fake, false and counterintuituve.

Again, for the unpteemth time name one character or storyline in all of Abrahamic text and let me prove to you that they are fake.

Who you think God created first?


Adam?

American?

Arab?

European?

Eve?

Jew?


Africans are the first people to arrive on planet earth.

Asumming you believe in God, then, when God created the first humans, it created the first Africans.

Another reason to conclude that their text is fake.

Derrinclay:
Is this part of the alleged abrahamic fake representation Of history?

The Abraham of Abrahamic religious text is a ficticious character.

The Palestinian that the authors of the Christian bible modeled Abraham on is completely and utterly not the same virtuouos person depicted in their text.

The authors of Abrahamic religious text fail on their first hurdle on all of their content due to their blatant constant lies contradictions and deceptions.

Under what circumstance is it permitable for a bunch of murderers and war mongers to be claiming to know anything about virtousness.

Stop and Think!

The only intention of All Abrahamic religious text is to brainwash innocent people.

They attempt to replace real history with a false version, also known as brainwashing.

hupernikao:
This is straw-man. Stay on course or open another thread to give a detail explanation of your assertion. I am seeing a lot of ignorance on this platform. You dont talk on things you arent grounded on. Dont just drop snippets and believed to have communicated.

Open a thread and do a comprehensive explanation of this and i am not talking of copy and paste around the internet. Jumping around thread to display knowledge without depth is careless. Give depth, open thread, explain to us. Let us see you have studied and well studied not just excited with words.

There isnt one character or storyline present in all of Abrahamic religious text that can claim to being original.

Name one character or storyline contained inside their text and let me prove to you that they lack originality.

Jesus is a ficticious character invented by the Romans.

What is the topic of the thread?

Jesus is not God.

Precisely, how can a fictitious character be anything other than a fictitious character.


The concept of God is real.

Jesus is fake.

Derrinclay:
How?prove pleaseeeeeee

Abrahamic religious text peddle a false and fake representation of history.

Name any character or storyline in all of Abrahamic religious text and let me prove to you that they are not original.

Abrahamic religious text are copied from older concepts and philosophies, that is the reason they are fake.

Manufactured stories borrowed from numerous communitues from around the world and without any logical justification claiming to be the originator.

God exist despite Abrahamic religions and not because of them.

The original character that transposed into the Jesus one was infact a leader of a Palestinian rebel faction that the Romans struggled to put away.

There was never a people called Jews during the reign of the Roman Empire.

The only Jews present in living history are mainly resident in the State of Israel.

As in, the authors of the Christian bible claimed in their text a ficticious group of people they called Israelites are the Jews; that is fake news.

Europeans adherents of the Judaism religion are known as Jews; fact.

All the writtings of the Abrahamic religious text predate the inventions of the manufacturing of the religions they claim to represent.

That is to say, the authoring of the bible predates the manufacturing of Christianity, Christianity predates the authoring of the Torah and Quran, and the Torah and the Quran predates the manufacturing of either Islam or Judaism.

Its all a massive charade.

The Jesus character is an invention of the Romans.

A made up character from within Abrahamic religious text.

The reason that one can confidently arrive at the conclusion that all Abrahamic religions are fake, false and counterintuitive.

The Jesus chatacter is ficticious, takes after older religious icons and concepts from all acrross the globe; especially Buddha, Ela, Krishna and Horus.

Can God praise itself?

I really dont know the answer to that.

I know humans are susceptible to praising themselves.

Its even argued that certain species in the animal kingdom also carry these inexplicable traits.

As far as i know, Almighty God is "Awamaridi" (that which cannot be fully revealed to the human psyche)

Africans are the first people in all of living history capable enough to perceive the Almighty God.

I thank the Almighty God for all the wonderful things thou has done in my life and those around me.

Almighty God i praise you o.

I exalt thou name to the fullest in my mother tongue.

Amighty God i praise you o.

All the Abrahamic religious text are false, fake and counterintuitive.

When God created the first humans, it created the first Africans.

Yet, Abrahamic religious text attempte to distort real history with their false narratives.

African people are the first to arrive on planet earth.

Furthermore, our ancestors then went on to populate the rest of the world.

Here is the true history of planet Earth.

When Africans are living in their glourious communuties for thousands upon thousands of years, there was no people living in either Asia or Europe.

Given that Abrahamic relgious text narratives fails to acknowkledge these simple truth, further proves that the narrative they peddle is indeed false.

Normally, Africans and virtuosness fit hand in glove.

Historically, Arabians and Eurocentrics are absolute warmongers.

Yet, they attempt to hide these truth from us by peddling fake history by means of their Abrahamic text.

In order to be presented with the real history of our world, one must first have to disregard all Abrahamic religious related text.

Then, it becomes clearer that West Asia and Europe has two types of history running concurrently in the publuc domain.

(a) Their true and genuine history i.e looting, stealing, warmongery and desecrating sacred sites all around the globe.

(b) Fakery, Manufactured history. i.e Abrahamic religious text.

You cannot give me that which i already have.

The Abrahamic religions didnt give us virtuosness, that is an inbuilt facility that is unique to the African.

Simply put, Africans are the only people present in the world of today that fit into the lexicon definition of being virtuous.

Asian and Eurocentrics are the exact opposite of virtuousness.

For the sake of argument, lets assune that Abrahamic religions are real, then, the people that really need its intervention are infact the Asians and Eurocentrics and not the African.

The African are not a guilty people, are relatively peaceful and have not been seen to disturb or distrupt human progress. On the contrary, African people are the ones that have assist in the progress of human development more than all the other continents combined.

Africans ought to be proud of our achievements and dissallow any concept or narrative that peddles anything to the contrary.

Just to be clear, i'm not here to blame the loveable, virtuos adherents of Christianity or Muslims amongst us.

Trust me, a book with a thousand pages wouldnt contain the amount of genuinely nice, ethical and morally correct people that are known adherents of the above faiths.

Ignorance isnt a crime or a fault on its own accord, yet, once one is able to perceive truth, then ignorance cannot be used as an excuse anymore.

Yet, the notion that the Jesus character is a real and genuine person is false.

The Romans manufactured Christianity and invented all their characters out of the plagerisation of older religious characters and concepts from all around the globe.

Keep your virtuousness, get rid of the Jesus character and all the Abrahamic religions.

Relative to our recent history, it makes no sense whatsoever for an African to be worshiping or honouring anything coming out of either Asia or Europe.


Lets take a look at a hyperthetical scenario below:

An armed robber loots ones belongings at the dead of night and returns the next morning preaching some goblydegook about how to become a virtuous human being.

For me, i would shoot the returning armed robber first and ask questions later. Never in a million years would i be willing to listen to his/her mumbojumbo about anything until my belongings are fully recovered.

Even after assuming im able to succesfully recover my belongings, it would be counterintuitive and outrightly wrong to then be sourcing any sort of moral or ethical expeditions from such a thieving character.

Under what circumstance is it permitable for a bunch of murderers and war mongers to be claiming to know anything about virtousness.

Stop and Think!

The only intention of All Abrahamic religious text is to brainwash innocent people.

They attempt to replace real history with a false version, also known as brainwashing.

The bible is not what it claims to be, instead its a bibliography, a complilation of religious text and typologies from all accross the globe the contents of which have been repackaged, plagerised, sexed-up, or outrightly fabricated.

All Abrahamic religious text should come with a visible warning label, as they does with forensic documentary. i.e

"that is a book of fiction, non of these characters are real people and non of the places used in the writing of those books are real".

Beetobee:
I really have a problem with how people talk and act regarding religion. So you feel yours is the ultimate, of course no one is gonna downgrade his religion. But please focus on getting yourself saved through your religion and not dwelling on other people's religions. You're doing yourselves a lot of harm by dong that.

Great Nations dont have the time to be lapping up fakery, there are people on the continent that cannot wait to rise beyond greater heights.

Religion is supposed to make one relative to virtuosness.

Virtuosness is a fun and nice quality to have.

Religion is not the problem its all the Abrahamic ones that are, they have been found out to be peddling falsities, fakery and manufactured history.

By all the universal laws under the Sun, Abrahamic religions are counterintuitive.

Babaheekmat:
Bible written by unknown authors with different account of happenings and tons of contradictory happenings is used as a base of Jesus said?

Precisely, totally agree with your analysis here.

Furthermore, theres is not one storyline or character present in all of these Abrahamic religious text that can claim to being original, if they wasnt forgeries, they was sexed-up, repackaged, plagerised or simply altogether made up.

The Jesus character is an invention of the Romans.

A made up character from within Abrahamic religious text.

The reason that one can confidently arrive at the conclusion that all Abrahamic religions are fake, false and counterintuitive.

The Jesus chatacter is ficticious, takes after older religious icons and concepts from all acrross the globe; especially Buddha, Ela, Krishna and Horus.

Hintona:
No gender is superior to the other

I'd rather be a feminist than a femme fatale

I totally agree with you here.

Assuming one wishes to learn about history, one should stay well clear of the writtings from within Abrahamic religious text.

Assuming one wishes to learn of the twisted ways the Roman and Arabian propaganda machine works, then one would find such perfect examples inside of Abrahamic religious text.

Similar to all the other Abrahamic text out there in the public domain, the Christian bible is a fraud.

The bible isnt what it claims to be, rather its a bibliography; a compilation of stories and typologies from all across the globe the contents of which have been copied, plagerised, fabricated, sexed-up or simply altogether made up.