₦airaland Forum

vaxx:
A flawless submission i must say. eurocentric contribution of diminishing what africa really stand for. it a pity we all have learn this bad habit. but thankfully , the African union doesn't use this downgrading word in their engagement. I highly accept your view and learn toward this correction next time.


big up bro.

theenchanter:
the word "sub" is a hymonym, it means "under" in this context, not "inferior to" "subordinate" or "not as good as X" according to social science, It's a preposition word.

But it align with "south" of sahara as u've said just as "under" sahara is suitable due to it's geographic location.

In a nutshell... "south of sahara" and "sub-sahara" are exactly d same in english. Let's use english meaning for english words and not social science definition.

Cheers.

Maximus69:
So does he value our heartfelt worship?

Maximus69:
If so then what has he got to say about uniting all his intelligent creatures as one happy global family of peace loving worshipers?

vaxx1:
Yet the ranking body acknowledge historical and age long history. from the very recent ranking. it sighted fourah bay colledge in saro as the best university in sub Saharan African aside south Africa yet...

gregyboy:
You putting nigeria there is wrong... Yea Ethiopia is well respected for is history putting Ethiopia best is not wrong but best in what ....

Amujale:
We have to unite towards a common purpose.

Why?

Because our people are truly the envy of the world.

I agree with Op, Ethiopia is a great and influential African country, arguably the best, although they are after Nigeria in the ranking on my watch.

Furthemore, secure our future in todays world, concentrate on our part of the world.

Lets concentrate our focus on Africa. How to make the world a better place.

The world will only be a better place, when all our people are successfully elivated out of poverty.

Unity is worth the fuss.

Deadlytruth:
Unfortunately, your video refused to play.
But here is a screenshot evidence of my position.

wirinet:
It's not inferiority complex, it's the reality on the ground. All black African communities are doing poorly.


Which history? Is it history written for us by outsiders or history written by our own historians.

wirinet:
Why not list the best inventions created by black Africa? Where are the architectural masterpieces, where are the literature, science, Numeracy of black Africa stored. The oldest written texts (cuneiform texts) were found in Iraq. Where is our own?

wirinet:
Yes humans is said to have began in Africa, but those that left fared much better than those left behind.

JaceBlaze:
I think blacks suffered mental poisoning for a very long time,they have been told that they can't survive without the white race,that they are only better off as slaves because that's the only time they can ever be productive ...and people like you are proving them right

Many Asian countries are still messed up to this day,but do you ever hear them say that it's a curse?

sagenaija:
Ep8: Erasures & Insertions prove massive censorship!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrCR0kG2Cb4

PfanderFilms
Published on Sep 2, 2019

While Dr Brubaker only refers to 22 corrections in his book, he and others have found over 4,000 of these corrections in the earliest Qur’anic manuscripts, proving massive censorship.

Correction Example 14: Here we have erasures, which leave gaps in Surah 4:167 in the Topkapi manuscript (Topkapi Codex, fol. 65r).

In the first example we find an erasure of the first letter of Allah. In the line directly above it, we see another erasure, but Dan hasn’t yet had time to look into it.

Further down, on the next line, we can see the shadow of what was first written, which was allāhi qad “Allah has already”; so, it used to say, “Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the way of Allah have already strayed far into error”. With the correction it now says, “Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the way have strayed far into error”. This correction goes away from the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text.

Correction Example 15: In this example we have an erasure leaving a gap in Surah 24:33, found in the Museum of Islamic Art, Doha (MIA, Doha, 2013.19.2, verso).

We find an erasure at the end of one line, which continues into the beginning of the next line. It occurs after the word فضله faḍlihi “his grace”, and before والذين wa-alladhīna “and those who”. There is no way to know what was first written in the spaces erased; but it now corresponds to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text, proving intentional censorship.

Correction Example 16: We now come to an insertion in Surah 4:33, in the Hussayni manuscript, found in the Cairo Mosque (Cairo Mosque, mushaf al-sharif, fol.109r.).

The word kāna, “is,” was omitted when this manuscript was first written, and then added later on above the line. Only the first two letters are visible in the photograph though the full word kāna was presumably originally inserted here, written with a very fine nib. It now says, “And Allah has power over all things”, so that it finally conforms to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text, and corresponds to the same formula found many times throughout the Qur’an.

Correction Example 17: Here we see an erasure which is then written over with the name ‘Allah’ in Surah 33:9, found in the National Library of Russia’s manuscript (NLR, Marcel, 11, fol. 7r.).

Interestingly, all but the first two letters of “ni ‘mat Allah” ‘The favor of Allah’ has been written over an erasure. Notice that a different nib and ink has been used, proving that a different hand of another scribe was employed. It’s also bunched together. It used to say, “ni ‘matihi” which means, ‘his favor’. It now says, “ni ‘mat Allah”, meaning ‘the favor of Allah’, so that it now conforms to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text.

Correction Example 18: In this example we find an insertion above the line of the word ‘the hour’ in Surah 6:40, again from the National Library of Russia’s manuscript (NLR, Marcel, 7, fol. 7r.).

An insertion of the word ‘the hour’ has been written above the line. Notice that it uses a much narrower nib, suggesting once again a different scribe, and a much later date. It used to say, “Say, tell me if Allah’s torment comes upon you, or comes upon you…”. It now says, “Say, tell me if Allah’s torment comes upon you, or the hour comes upon you…”, so that it now conforms to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text.

Correction Example 19: We now find an example of an erasure, written over with the name of ‘Allah’, in Surah 34:27, also found in the National Library of Russia’s manuscript (NLR, Marcel, 5, fol. 11r.)

The word “Huwa Allah” (‘he is Allah’) has been written in front of and over top of another word which has been erased. We cannot know what the original word would have been, but we see that it now conforms to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text.

Correction Example 20: This example is an erasure of nearly a full line, which is overwritten with only a few words, in Surah 8:3 from the Museum of Islamic Art, Doha (MIA, Doha, 2014.491, fol.7v.).

One can see clearly that almost an entire line of text has been erased and then overwritten with the word “rizq” (‘provision’). We cannot know what the original phrase that was erased may have been. It now says, “wa-mimma razaqnahum yunfiqun”, meaning, “And out of what we have provided them (m.) they (m.) spend”. Notice that the initial ‘alif’ of the following verse is also added, so that it now conforms to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text.

We have found that most of these corrections bring the existing text into conformity with a standard. But how can you correspond these texts unless a standard exists? And no standard existed prior to 1924. So, when were all these corrections carried out? We leave that for you to decide.

What all these corrections prove is that there has been a good amount of correcting, changing, deleting, adding and conforming the early Qur'anic manuscripts so that they correspond with the final canonized text which we use today, proving that the Qur'an could not have come from Allah, nor from Muhammad, nor from Uthman, but from mere men

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Maximus69:
how does the Creator {Almighty God} communicates with his creatures" since your point is about virtuousness, and of course the only Supreme Being that's capable of setting the best form of standard regarding right and wrong is God!

thesicilian:
...If you buy me a 5000 naira lunch at a regular restaurant and while I'm still eating you're already telling the world that you spent over 20,000 naira to feel me, should I just remain quiet in the spirit of being grateful?

Maximus69:
Hellooooooooooooo!

I'm a Christian {one of the students of Jesus who is called CHRIST}.
We don't just argue for nothing, we make sure that our manner of approach and response incapacitate all critics, rendering them incompetent of standing against the authenticity of our heritage {Bible}.
So i'm not here to argue with you but to make everyone following grasp the emptiness in you!

Maximus69:
Just ask leading or thought provoking questions like a lawyer and you'll convince your audience!

Mere assertions won't do anything when those you're trying to convince have concluded in their minds on the Bible. Billions across the globe strongly believe that the Bible teaches virtue, so if you feel/know otherwise then you need to ask questions like a competent lawyer that's completely equipped.

That's why i asked you "how does the Creator {Almighty God} communicates with his crea, since your point is about virtuousness, and of course the only Supreme Being that's capable of setting the best form of standard regarding right and wrong is God!

Amujale:
For the benefit of the coming generation aswell as our own overstanding, its important to differentiate real history from foreign rhetorical commentary.


True history:

According to history, Africans are the first people to arrive on planet Earth.

Rhetorical commentary:

Abrahamic religious text claim that Adam & Eve are the first people in the 'Garden of Eden' story.

Amujale:
How does Books of the Bible in Audio format assist us in defeating Colonisation and Oppression?

How?

The Bible is not what it claims to be, instead its a bibliography of various older religious text and typologies from all across the globe the contents of which have been repackaged, plagerised, sexed-up, or outrightly fabricated.

There isnt one character or storyline present in all of Abrahamic religious text that can claim to being original.

Let's assume for one second (eventhough they arent real) that the Abrahamic narrative is real, then the people that need to follow such measures peddled by Abrahamic religious text are the inhabitants of Western Asia and all the Eurocentrics (atleast 75% of West Asians and Europeans dont even believe in God); definately not the African.

Africans arent a guilty people, are relatively peaceful and unlike West Asia and Europe, have not been seen to disturb or distrupt human progress.

Africans are responsible for the progress of humanity more than any peoples on the planet; the positive impact on human progress made by Africans is more than what Asians, Australasians, Europeans and The Americas have done combined.

These are what Africans need to be reading and studying upon and not the implausible manufactured history coming out of either Asia or Europe.

Keep our virtuousness, get rid of all the Abrahamic religions.

Maximus69:
Rather the Bible's message is for the whole world to help in IDENTIFYING the source of all the problems plaguing humanity ever since!

Maximus69:
For instance here in Yoruba land, Oduduwa the great grand father never taught his children to colonise one another......

Ogedengbe ~ Ilesha
Fabunmi ~ Oke imesi(Ekiti)
Lishabi ~ Egba
Kunrunmi ~ Ijaye
Anlugbua ~ Owu
Moremi ~ Ile-ife

And a host of others fought for liberty from oppressors who were blacks and even speaking the same language....

Maximus69:
If you don't know the purpose of the Bible, just signify by raising thought provoking questions and true Christians will tell you what the Bible really teach!

budaatum:
Mohammed.

budaatum:
If, as you claim, "Abrahamic religious text are direct copies and plagerised versions of various older characters and philospohies. i.e African philosophies, Budhism, Greek mythology, Hinduism, Roman mythology, Summerian mythology e.t.c", are you not pleased that I, a Nigerian, have heard of those things? I mean, its not as if I can be walking in the streets of Lagos and pick up "Budhism, Greek mythology, Hinduism, Roman mythology, Summerian mythology etc", that easily. Even African Philosophy is scanty, as you'd have seen if you checked the podcast I posted. Or can I pick that up on the streets of Lagos or anywhere in Nigeria?

Perhaps see the Bible as a badly written syllabus. Many learn a lot from it that they might not have learnt anywhere else. I mean, you, perhaps, might only know of these "Budhism, Greek mythology, Hinduism, Roman mythology, Summerian mythology etc" from your initial reading of the Bible which piqued your interest like a tiny acorn seed and made you search further so you've become the immensely knowledgeable oak tree you have become. Or have you forgotten how you began and would give no credit to the seed?


Are you here suggesting that the "direct copies and plagerised versions of various older characters and philospohies. i.e African philosophies, Budhism, Greek mythology, Hinduism, Roman mythology, Summerian mythology e.t.c" that the Abrahamic religions "copied and plagerised", are all false?

Amujale:
There isnt one character or storyline in all of Abrahamic religious text that can claim to being original.

All the authors of Abrahamic religious text are dubious and untrustworthy.

Abrahamic religious text are direct copies and plagerised versions of various older characters and philospohies. i.e African philosophies, Budhism, Greek mythology, Hinduism, Roman mythology, Summerian mythology e.t.c

The premise behinde the narratives being peddled by all the Abrahamic religions is false.

The notion that the Almighty God isnt African is false.

Humanity began in Africa and they went on to populate the rest of the world.

Africans are the first people in human history capable enough to perceive the Almighty God.

The Almighty God and all the true heavenly Deities and the Divinities are black, brown and bronze; are Universal.

The narrative behinde an Asian or European image of God are wholly false and misleading; they just arent plausible due to the simple understanding that suggest that noone owns the rights to the supposed image of 'God' and the fact that Africans are the first humans that God' created.

The false image of God that Abrahamic religious text are peddling, the blattant lies and fabrications contained in all of their content are part of the horific falsities refered to in the above post.