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Pastor Adeboye: Stop Using My Pictures On Souvenirs, I Am Not God / Reno Omokri Reacts To Bishop Oyedepo's 'Dangerously Rich' Statement / Daddy Freeze: I Was Attacked By Religious Mafia, It's Not God's Wrath (2) (3) (4)
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by bingbagbo(m): 2:42pm On Aug 14|
Jesus Christ is God Almighty
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by hupernikao: 2:45pm On Aug 14|
You are yet to prove any of your words above yet you want to prove my own words.
Learn to prove your own words first before disproving others. The discuss here is intellectual and you have to show you are capable of that by putting down your own explanation not gists.
Go and do a comprehensive study and then do explanation of all the claims you put above. It is clear that you dont even appreciate proper and diligent study for you to have mixed history together in this internet age where e-search will help you.
Stop this attitude of trying to prove and disprove without depth. You havent explained anything since than to be throwing shaded on other people's explanation. That isnt good for you.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by musicwriter(m): 2:51pm On Aug 14|
The scriptures did not fell from the sky.
Again, if you believe someone can't talk about your bible because they don't believe it, then you have no right to talk about Jesus or the bible. The Messiah was promised to the Jews. Are you a Jewish man?
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 2:58pm On Aug 14|
Your responses to my post are inconsequential.
You claim to want proof why Abrahamic religious text are fake, false and counterintuituve.
Again, for the unpteemth time name one character or storyline in all of Abrahamic text and let me prove to you that they are fake.
Who you think God created first?
Africans are the first people to arrive on planet earth.
Asumming you believe in God, then, when God created the first humans, it created the first Africans.
Another reason to conclude that their text is fake.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by hupernikao: 3:00pm On Aug 14|
Stop exposing yourself abeg.
Just stay on course of the post if you want to discuss. As pointed earlier, the discussion here is to explain John 1:1 by examining Theon and Theos. If you have something to contribute on this do if not open another thread to showcase your own argument and anger skillfully.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by hupernikao: 3:05pm On Aug 14|
Where did you get the bolded from
Abeg focus on the discussion here, explain how John 1:1 should be read. If you cant then go and open another thread for your discussion. If it worth it based on the depth and explanation, i will be ready to engage you there.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 3:11pm On Aug 14|
The Jesus character is a ficticious one.
The Jesus character is an invention of the Romans.
The concept of God is real and unaffected by the fakery of manufactured religions.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by musicwriter(m): 3:24pm On Aug 14|
Theon or Theos is a Greek word that they used to define their reality in Greece. It has nothing to do with you as African because we didn't set the context for its definition. Note that when you allow a foreigner define things for you, you're being enslaved with language. Unfortunately, that's still the case in Africa.
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|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 3:39pm On Aug 14|
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by musicwriter(m): 3:46pm On Aug 14|
Amujale:How are you bro？Hope everything is fine.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 3:47pm On Aug 14|
Im good bro & you?
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by musicwriter(m): 3:49pm On Aug 14|
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by jcross19: 6:37pm On Aug 14|
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|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Janosky: 7:45pm On Aug 14|
hupernikao:will respond later
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by RandomGuy48: 2:57am On Aug 15|
Amujale:This claim gets made on the Internet sometimes, but it's nonsense. People will list supposed "parallels" between Jesus and them, but if you actually do research you'll find out they're often outright made up. This site examines a lot of these supposed parallels and explains why they're inaccurate:
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 5:39am On Aug 15|
The tecktonics site makes a wrong and disingenous argument.
Everyone knows that Christianity was manufactured in the 1st century. Ancient Egypt mythology predates Christianity in years that amount in their hundreds and thousands.
The Jesus character was invented by the Romans
He takes out of various older characters, the most popular is Horus and this due to the striking characteristics they both possess.
The obvious one is the Mother-Child relationship,
Isis and Horus
Mary and Jesus
Then you have them using similar terminology:
"I am Horus in glory . . . I am the Lord of the Light . . . I am the victorious one . . . I am the heir of endless time . . . I, even I, am he that knoweth the path of heaven"
Then you have the "Ankh", according to Ancient Egyptians is supposed to be the symbol of re-birth or reincarnation. The one Horus is holding in the depiction below.
The authors of Abrahamic text plagerized Ancient Egyptian text and religious concepts as they did with various many others.
These similar pattern is also identified with relationships between Jesus and Krishna, Jesus and Buddha e.t.c
Hence, the reason one can readily conclude that Jesus is a ficticious character.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 6:05am On Aug 15|
The character known as Jesus is a Roman invention, created out of many ancient icons like Budha, Ela, Horus, Krishna, Romulus e.t.c
Now lets explore the similarities between the Jesus chatacter and the Krishna one.
Christos is a common name in the Greek community aswell as another name for Krishna.
Let me expand on this further, the word 'Christ' is said to come from the Greek word 'Christos', which means "the anointed one".
'Krishna' in Greek is the same as 'Kristos' which means "the anointed one"
The list of pre-christianity divinities, heroes, kings and queens who claim to have been "born of a virgin" or miraculously birth includes the following:
Pharoah Amenophis III
Apollonius of Tyana
Even the story of the gifts from the kings and the "three wisemen" has been told before in ancient Egypt aswell as during the birth of Krishna.
Ancient Egyptian mythology predates Hinduism, Hinduism predates Christianity.
Krishna predates the invention of the Jesus character.
Another reason to conclude that Jesus is a fraudulent character invented by evilsic Romans.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by hupernikao: 8:24am On Aug 15|
Are you joking?
Is this how you will prove a believe wrong?
Just by saying "everyone knows" (whatever this means), "Krishna", "Christos", "Character" etc
No single explanation, reference, historical evidence. It is obvious you arent even vast in the same error you proclaim. I have met people with great erroneous knowledge, convincing in being deceived and deceiving. I am yet to find any in all your discussion your dedication to diligent study and convincing explanation. All you do is to give sound bites. I love when people are grounded in a path they chose to follow.
My general advise for you, spend tie to study your path more, know more of your "truth" and be ready to give convincing explanation on what you believe.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 10:17am On Aug 15|
Firstly, you misconscrue what has been said here. Let me put it into its proper perspective.
And maybe you wont misconcrue it yet again.
Secondly, the image depicted below is that of Horus the son of Osiris and Isis. In his hand he holds an Ankh.
Those are not the spoken words of the Jesus character but that of Horus:
Furthermore, assuming you are looking for evidence, then you have a catalogue of content that you ought to research upon.
Your comment about their being no evidence, explanation or historical reference is flawed and disengenuous.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 10:27am On Aug 15|
Jesus is not God
God is God.
Similar to all the other Abrahamic religions, christianity is a manufactured religion, and the reason it was forced upon Africans was due to an ancient Eurocentric project known as the "World Order".
That project began by the Romans thousands of years ago.
Initially all of Europe and parts of Asia abide by the laws and moral code of Africa.
Then one Roman Emperor (see more on the Flavian connection) deviced a plan that would enable Europe to dominate the globe both militarily and spiritualy.
His plan was dubbed "The World Order", it was during these times that Libya was invaded as the first post-pharaonic military campaign ever launched by Europe on African soil under the stewerdship of Portugal and Spain with the so-called blessing of the then Pope.
Its important to note that Rome was never stationary, Rome moved its administrative capital on various occasions, the most commonly talked about being Constantinople that is the modern day Istanbul in Turkey.
Rome is actually a Eurocentric political concept. One that only allows for European and or their descendants domination of the world.
The "World Order" and the so-called "New World Order" are one and the same.
The adherents of the "World Order" spend hundred and thousands of years trying to nail down their unwitty claims of superiority over everyone else.
What happened was that the Romans use all the intellectual tools available to their Emperor and political class to lay their foundation of world domination.
They use psychological, sociological and military inteligence to reach their goals and objectives.
The Asians also caused havoc. Its argued that if the Asian war mongerers hadnt launched their crazy holy wars inside the continent, the Eurocentric Crusaders would never have made the military progress they achieved on the continent.
Neither the trans Atlantic slave trade nor Colonisation would never had taken place.
The argument that the Europeans won most of their crazy battles because of internal conflict is false.
Most of the internal conflicts at the time was created or exacerbated by the adherents of the "World Order"
The reason they made in roads was due to the earlier Arab wars and military campaigns combined with the Christian missionaries and Jewish missionaries that precede the crazy dash for African treasure. There was also some local traitors. They, the missionaries and traitors, were emmisaries and spies to Europe's political class and they reported much of the situation on the ground.
The scramble for Africa was a calculated campaign that involved the political classes from all over Europe, Eurocentric Royalists of the entire continent of Europe, Christian and Jewish adherents; multiple meetings and various conferences.
It's rummoured that if you visit the Madonna chapel at the Vatican there is a model of mother and child representation of African divinities, some call it the "black Jesus", whilst some argue that it supppse to represent Isis and Horus as these was the Roman Empire's chosen religion at the time; the one that preceeded Roman Catholicism.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by hupernikao: 2:59pm On Aug 15|
You are not a student of history. You need to do more to study the history you want to debunk. Dont just pick book or random post online as evidence. There are plenty sources, discoveries, artifacts, archaeo readily available for you.
One of the basic rule of proving a believe or system wrong is to first study the believe/system well and observe the essence of such. You havent study much beyond some videos and documentaries. Take time to do personal reviews.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 11:55pm On Aug 15|
You are completely wrong here and your response is aswell inconsequential.
I dont see you refuting any of the evidence before you.
My advice to you is to go and research what has been said and re-educate yourself as per the real history of our world.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by hupernikao: 3:12am On Aug 16|
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by RandomGuy48: 4:46am On Aug 16|
hupernikao:Indeed. It is a little amusing to post a link, and then see a bunch of claims thrown out against it... that are refuted by the very link I pointed to! The simple fact is, if you examine these supposed "parallels" closely, you'll find out they don't stand up and are in fact frequently outright made up. That is why people who advance them rarely give any actual source, and those that do only point to another person who doesn't give a source themselves!
Though in regards to Caesar's Messiah, it's a hardly a reliable book. Here are some critiques:
http://www.evidenceunseen.com/theology/book-reviews/a-critique-of-joseph-atwills-covert-messiah/ (fairly short)
http://www.tektonics.org/books/csmessrvw.php (longer and more detailed)
Heck, Caesar's Messiah is so weak that even atheists have harshly criticized it (as noted in the first link).
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by OpenYourEyes1: 7:02am On Aug 16|
If lesser beings are called gods of this world why not the Greater Being who was part in creating them?
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by KayceeBanks: 7:51pm On Aug 19|
Hundreds of thousands?
Bro, the other races are not that old.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nonye1234(f): 9:03pm On Aug 19|
Can you write this well.in Greek so that I can read it properly
WhatsW with the question marks??
Or aren't you confident in your findings
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 7:49pm On Aug 22|
I agree with you my brother, thousands is probably more accurate. Post has been ammended accordingly.
Thank you for the correction.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 8:09pm On Aug 22|
Normally, Africans and virtuosness fit hand in glove.
Historically, Arabians and Eurocentrics are absolute warmongers.
Yet, they attempt to hide these truth from us by peddling fake history by means of their Abrahamic religious text.
In order to be presented with the real history of our world, one must have to disregard all Abrahamic religious related text.
Then, it becomes clearer that Arabia and Europe has two types of history running concurrently in the public domain.
(a) True Arabian and European history i.e looting, stealing, warmongery and desecrating sacred sites all around the globe.
(b) Fakery, Manufactured history. i.e Abrahamic religious text e.t.c
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by TruthinAction: 8:44pm On Aug 22|
Jesus is the express image of God. God is invisible. If you want to see God, look at Jesus. He is the manifestation of God in the flesh. It is a mystery beyond human comprehension.
Like begat likes. He is in the same class as God. That you have a manager you report to doesn't make you a lesser human.
Jesus himself as God is subject to God the father. This does not reduce his divinity.
Even God called Jesus God as narrated by the book of Hebrews,
8 But unto the Son he saith, THY THRONE, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Janosky: 12:00am On Aug 23|
Explain John5:37. John6:46. 20:17
Did Jesus create his God & Father?
Is the Messenger the same as the Owner of his message? John 7:16.
Sophistry built on FRAUD.....
Is the Manager that same person working under him?
That is your claim @1, why shift the goalpost @2)?
|Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by 1Sharon(f): 12:09am On Aug 23|
Do you understand ancient Greek??
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