₦airaland Forum

Amujale:
Theres no shame in admitting that you are wrong.

You are completely and utterly wrong.

Does us all a favour and go and study real and proper history.

Read my response and make amends.

Learn to think, write and speak well of our continent, its the least anyone of us could partake.

Stop sourcing from a crazed author that instead of him/her to be writing productive content such as when will the mzungu get thr ish out of our continent.

Again, its idiotic to source from a book that is clearly untrue and disengenous.

Furthermore, sourcing from such a toxic and ridiculous book, amounts to the condoning of slavery.

Are you condoning slavery?

I challenge you or any other Eurocentric out there to provide evidence of a slave trade on the continent prior to foreign distruption.

ayoola27:
Go to hell

You’re thought process tells us you’re already in hell.

Can you see what a foreign ideology has turned your brain into?

ayoola27:
Go to hell

Is that your proof?

macof:
Can you provide them?

Certainly, will post accordingly.

gregyboy:
You're a rascist bro, african leaders are the problem not the pink men

Neocolonisation and the shadow governments that control things from outside public view are the real problem.

Stealing is bad. FULLSTOP

Yet, our political leaders steal millions of dollars, alledgedly, however, the neocolonialist and shadow governments steal trillions of dollars.

Get rid of the neocolonialist, and defeat corruption of the political class.

ayoola27:
Obviously u are so stupid...

Quoting me for a post of 2 months ago..

Coman take ur award for stupidity.. idiot

Theres no shame in admitting that you are wrong.

You are completely and utterly wrong.

Does us all a favour and go and study real and proper history.

Read my response and make amends.

Learn to think, write and speak well of our continent, its the least anyone of us could partake.

Stop sourcing from a crazed author that instead of him/her to be writing productive content such as when will the mzungu get thr ish out of our continent.

Again, its idiotic to source from a book that is clearly untrue and disengenous.

Furthermore, sourcing from such a toxic and ridiculous book, amounts to the condoning of slavery.

Are you condoning slavery?

I challenge you or any other Eurocentric out there to provide evidence of a slave trade on the continent prior to foreign distruption.

gregyboy:
You're a rascist bro, african leaders are the problem not the pink men

What?

Now you are losing it.

Theres nothing prejudce or discrimiantory about pointing out crimes against humanity that was perpetrated by foreigners, it would be discriminatory to our parents if we dont keep banging on about the past attrocities.

gregyboy:
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You cant deniel the fact they always sell us to the north, 2019 election can serve as proves

You are wasting your ink with those nonsensical claims.

Stick to my questioning.

Im waiting for you to address the questions posed earlier.

gregyboy:
White aint the issue dont make them one, they did their wrongs they moved on,..

And what wrongs is that?

Explain.

I guess you are the mouth piece for the mzungus, right?

Go ahead and eplain to us what wrong the mzungus did and how you think they've moved on.

gregyboy:
And you yorubas keep selling us to the north which makes me dislike your tribe

Youre reverse psychology has failed you once again.

Get Yoruba nuts out of your mouth.

gregyboy:
the white are not the problem we blacks are..

Such isnt merely ignorance but is the definition of self-hatred.

Who told you to hate yourself?

gregyboy:
the white are not the problem we blacks are..

Eventhough, i dont really buy into this white and black thing regarding humanity, i suppose you meant those with Eurocentric views such as yours are, yes that makes perfect sense.

Anyone who knows history would always come to the conclusion that foreign distruption is the defining factor in terms of the current status on out continent.

Where should i start?

The numerous slave trades that the foreign warmongers brought to the continent in their quest to steal, plunder, pillage and exploit the continent, or the countless physcological probes that inflicted upon innnocent people or perhaps, again slavery, colonisation, exploitation to name but a few.

gregyboy:
..the bini artworks was taken to Europe it gave a new perception against what they had thought about Africans..

And what perception is that, i certainly havent come accross this ellusive perception you refer to here, and ive studied a vast amount of Eurocentric literature.

These narratives werent anything to write home about.

Perhaps you want to educate us on the perception that Eurocentric writers have on Africans?

More importantly, i think STOLE is the accurate terminology you meant to use here.

Not simply taken to Europe but stolen, confiscated, wrongly obtained.

macof:
Egyptian and Kush languages are not same language
They don't even belong to the same language group

Thats what the mzungus would want people to believe.

Yet, genuine historians, African historians have proven that all the original communities of North Africa are Nubian and that includes the people of Kemit.

macof:
Do you have a dictionary or a valid independent lexica source for these Egyptian words...

Yes, yes and yes.

macof:
Do you have a dictionary or a valid independent lexica source for these Egyptian words

Also, my guy.. Egyptian and Kush languages are not same language
They don't even belong to the same language group

Ancient Egyptians and Kush[sic] are one and the same.

ayoola27:
Slavery always existed in Africa prior to the Europeans coming...

You are such an idiot.

Learn to read properly before quoting me.

I dont really have the time to nurse an idiotic person such as you.

Slavery never existed on the continent prior to foreign distruption.

Read again, this time use your God given brain cells accordingly.

ayoola27:
....what research have u done towards..

Are you pretending that you can read or is it that you cant.

[quote author=ayoola27 post=90478409]....what research have u done towards../quote]

Are you pretending that you cam read or is it that you cant.

ayoola27:
U lack comprehension...what research have u done towards that

According to Lovejoy, Paul E. (2012). Transformations of Slavery: A History of Slavery in Africa. London: Cambridge University Press.

Slavery was a part of the economic structure of African societies for many centuries, although the extent varied.
Also in Noel King (ed.), Ibn Battuta in Black Africa , Princeton 2005, p. 54.
Ibn Battuta , who visited the ancient kingdom of
Mali in the mid-14th century, recounts that the local inhabitants vied with each other in the number of slaves and servants they had, and was himself given a slave boy as a "hospitality gift


Slavery always existed in Africa prior to the Europeans coming...

I would have posted the pics...but I don't know what is wrong with nairaland

Do ur research and improve ur brain

You are a brainwashed twit that doesnt know what is right from wrong.

Are you that blinded that you fail to realise that you attempt but fail to justify horrific attrocities.

Perhaps you didnt read my previous response.

Can you not see how daft you are sounding?

Everyone is telling you that slavery was a crime against humanity and here Mr foolish having the nerve to be quoting a book written by the same people that did the enslaving.

Well done, Mr foolish of the year.

Any Eurocentric writer that wants to write about slavey must first realise that they dont posses the moral right to does so without first spending an entire chapter apologising for the hortific incident in the first place.

I would say i'm lenient with such demands here.

Ignorance isnt an excuse for you, at this point, you a damn right idiotic.

gregyboy:
If i was igbo i will give you all sleepless night

What does that even mean?

You arent Nigerian.


What you mean?

Correct me whenever you feel necessary.

This is aimed at you greyboy.

You havent a clue about real history, all you does is make bombastic claims that you cannot stand up to.

Your attempt of reverse psychology isnt valid around here.

You are a liar, a faker and an agent of chaos.

Assimung you want to learn the proper history, get yourself a proper history textbook.

Bin all the Eurocentric jargon of self hatred that they themselves help create as per 'divide and rule' tactics.

@greyboy, i put it to you that you arent an historian, you are a liar, a faker and an agent of chaos.

gregyboy:
Clean the history of oyo, it almost never existed, an empire that some group of female warriors raped their male warriors to a despicable defeat not very long the fula men came and crushed the remains of the said existing empire,
that is not the painful part of it all, the most Shameful and painful part, is that they are still being ruled politically, religiously and culturally, by the fula men from the north
benin at a time crushed oyo forces to protect the benin vassal ekiti, in the ekiti parakpo war, but it failed to rule over the Weakling empire, only if the British didn't put the benin empire to an haut, we would have seen need to rule over the oyo empire

I know yorubas loves the way i tell the truth, behind thier history, i wouldn't say hate, dss will be having my neck kneel on for using the word hate..

You are a liar, a faker and an agent of chaos.

Get Yoruba nuts out of your mouth already.

@greyboy, who taught you to hate yourself?

Yes the point you was trying to make, the point being that Africans experienced civilisation before anyone else, is a legitimate one.


No, your self hatred isnt legitimate.

You still have the time to make amends.

AreaFada2:
Well, this is long established.

Benin made clothes were traded by Portuguese along South Western Coast of Africa and beyond. I remember a detailed record by the Portuguese of items Da Souza, the Queen of Ngola (now roughly Angola), was buried with, clearly including expensive clothes from Benin empire alongside gold, silver and other precious items.

Precisely, yet, what has that got to does with the self-hatred that Op has.

How i wish OP could've done justice to the thread rather than attempt to pepetuate an outdated and counterproductive manufactured hatred that foreign extreemist ideologies aimed to implant as per social engineering of those times.

First off, i was hoping that the content would be soley aiming at the correct target.


What target did i presume you ask?

'Benin wore clothes and also sold clothes to the European', that itself should be a battering ram to the false notion that is peddled by Eurocentrism.

The notion that Africans havent been wearing clothes before anyone else, the thread shows such to be false.

Furthermore, historians go on to prove the fact that Africans are the ones who taught the world the importance of clothes.

These are the narrative that ought to be noted here.

Leave all the manufactured hatred to the bigots, liars and fakers.

Needlesd to say that i totally disagree with the notion that the enemies arent out there away from our great continent.

I must stress this with the best of intentions.

The concept is great, yet, dont get dragged into bigotry, discrimiation and or prejudce when there are more better perhaps more filled with decorum that one could express these same history.

History is meant to be odourless and as well free from unecessary slurs, sentiments and or manufactured hatred.

blueAgent:
keep dreaming.

It's you that is delusional.

Go and find something interesting doing, perhaps go and observe Sunrise or Sunset.

I will end your trolling career.

hayoholla:
Please, I don't understand brother. What is your definition of reality?

Reality - the state of things as they actually exist, the state or quality of having existence or substance.

For instance, these foreign extremist ideologies are fake and malicious, thats the reality right there.

African history comprises of agriculture, art, architecture, astronomy, commerce, economics, engineering, farming, fishing, law, mathematics, medical Sciences, metallurgy, minning, philosophy, physical sciences, ship-building e.t.c.

Its pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.

hayoholla:
First of all, how do you come about the number 99% don't just throw numbers around brother. Secondly, then you are of the opinion that anything allegories found in stories of African culture does not exist.

Firstly you've misquoted me in your post, you care to go and correct yourself there?

Here's the correct version:

Amujale:
99% of African secular history is evidence
based.

African history isnt full of spookism.

Its pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist religions and focus our concentration on reality, African history.

African history comprises of Agriculture,  Architecture, Arts, Astrounomy, Astrology, Commerce, Engineering, Mathematics, Medical sciences, Philosophy, Physical sciences e.t.c


https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation

There's zero amount of spookism in African secular history, the reason one is able to make use of the term 'secular' in the first instance.

Now, i guess you are clear with that now.


Dont forget to amend your previous post where misquoted.

hayoholla:
Even African cultures are replete with myths, that makes it fictitious too!

99% of African secular history is evidence
based.

African history isnt full of spookism.

Its pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist religions and focus our concentration on reality, African history.

African history comprises of Agriculture,  Architecture, Arts, Astrounomy, Astrology, Commerce, Engineering, Mathematics, Medical sciences, Philosophy, Physical sciences e.t.c

https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation

hayoholla:
"Disregarding reality" is it an exercise in futility to seek peace of mind for one's self, since it is an abstract concept and has no place with reality at least according to what you typed up there.

'Disregarding reality' in the sense that it's something one should never does or canvass anyone else to does.

For instance, lets take a hyperthetical situation of a new book being launched tommorow, that is the reality about that information.

Assuming that one then disregards the date and instead decides to go to the launching the day after tommorow and then the person doesnt find them engaged in the launching, that is due to the fact the person disregarded the reality that the launch was tommorow and not the day after.

When we concentrate our focus on reality, one becomes well informed and resourceful, our lives become much better.

Once we focus our concentration on reality, African becomes greater than ever before.

ayoola27:
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You arent making any sense.

It doesnt cost you anything to actually read what is being texted.

Respond sensibly instead of texting gibberish.