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Maximus69:
They manufactured a God from the race that were serving as their own slaves and elevated this fabricated God above their own JUPITER!

Jupiter predates the Jesus character.

Anyone who studies Roman history will understand the mentality of a Roman Emperor.

The Roman Emperor tend to consider themselves something close to an immortal.

Given the outrageous light to which a Roman Emperor saw themselves, they saw themselves as rulers of their known world, its easily understood that they had a sophisticated system of government that used all the tools available to them at the time.

The Romans manufactured the Christian bible in the first century CE in order to passify a militaristic rebel group that existed in the Palestinian regions.

These same Romans would introduce that weapon of mass destruction into the midst of their own peasants, and then by the sword and then the Crusaders took over spreading the fakery at the tip of their swords and then they graduated to guns and that brings us to where we are today.

Maximus69:
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All the Abrahamic religions peddle a false representation of history.

There isnt one character or storyline inside Abrahamic religious text that can claim to be original.

Maximus69:
You need not agree because i learnt everything from JESUS' followers!

I learned that from Roman history.

The Romans manufactured Christianity.

Maximus69:
At least people aren't blind, if they're able to SEE the goodies and benefits of your history they will buy it...

It isnt my history, its our history and those of the coming generations.

Those that acknowledge history are seeing the benefits in their lives as we text.

The Abrahamic religions attempt to blind someone from real history.

Its isnt until one moves far away from Abrahamic religious text and begin to study real African history from the historians stated in previous post that one is swiftly able to appreciate the falsehood of the Abrahamic religious text.

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Daejoyoung:
The concept of the meek inheriting the earth, is not a teaching of the abrahamic religions but of christ...

Since Jesus is fake, then the concept is false.

"If the premise of a concept is found to be false, the concept is deemed to be false aswell.

The concept of the meek inheriting the earth is counterintuitive.

The bottomline is that its a negative concept in every way shape or form.

Look at the world that we live in today, show me one example where such a concept is currently applied.

Its a trick that the authors of Abrahamic religious text are using in their failled attempts to smother ambition, drive and the other vital ingredients necessary to make a brighter future for ourselves and the coming generations.

Amujale:
Meek: quiet, gentle, easily imposed on, submissive.


None of which our ancestors are.

Our ancestors are magnanimous, difficult to approach with aggression, assertive.

Can you see that their's a huge disparity.

The Abrahamic religions are teaching us to become defenseless, helpless and weak, whilst genuinne African history teaches us to be magmanimous, diffucult to approach with aggression, whilst retaining assertiveness a recipe for our successfullness in the world of today.

Daejoyoung:
lol, ok.
so which one bears good fruits? our ancestors with all of their aggression...

You seem to be misunderstanding what was said, The Abrahamic religions are the ones with the history of agression.

Our ancestors actually lived a virtuous life; possessing an excellent moral compass.

The Abrahamic religions are teaching us to become defenseless, helpless and weak, whilst genuinne African history teaches us to be magmanimous, diffucult to approach with aggression, whilst retaining assertiveness a recipe for our successfullness in the world of today.

The opposite of Meek is Strong and Powerful.

Our history is of a strong, intelligient, successfull and powerful ancestry.

Ever since the Abrahamic religions murdered their way into the African pysche, many have been brainwashed to cause a huge distraction.

The Abrahamic religions are a magic trick that are solely designed to deceive someone into disregarding real history in favour of their Abrahamic religious fakery.

Maximus69:
A Character that has been thought for over 1,900 years down history!

A Character whose birth place, words, moves, events, home town, country ,death and burial place was all well documented!

The Jesus storyline is fake.

Show us one authentic document that corroborates the Jesus story; just one.

All Abrahamic religious text are false, fake and counterintuitive.

Daejoyoung:
The powerful and consistent? Meekness does not indicate lack of power or inconsistency, it only indicates humility.
lf that's the interpretation of that your author(from whom you shape your worldview basically), then l have to ask are you sure this your author knows what he is talking about?

Meek: quiet, gentle, easily imposed on, submissive.


None of which our ancestors are.

Our ancestors are magnanimous, difficult to approach with aggression, assertive.

Can you see that their's a huge disparity.

The Abrahamic religions are teaching us to become defenseless, helpless and weak, whilst genuinne African history teaches us to be magmanimous, diffucult to approach with aggression, whilst retaining assertiveness a recipe for our successfullness in the world of today.

Africans are the first people to arrive and populate the other continents.

Africans are said to be associated with the "Olmec" an ancient civilization that existed from c.2200 BCE to c.400 BCE. There are massive statues that were found in South America known as the "Collossal Heads" that depict blacksic African warriors in full regalia and are associated with the Mande people.

All the evidence puts Africans migrating to and fro the Americas, Europe and Asia before the birth of Christopher Columbus.

Here Dr Sertima puts the essence of the Niger river aswell rightfully restored from the clutches of Mungo Park’s allegorical assertions and considered now and in antiquity, one of the oldest trading post in all of world history; commercial activities of cotton, food and other types of agricultutal produce, proved to be as old, if not, older than the Nile.

For more information here are some books written by Dr. Ivan Van Sertima himself.

They Came Before Columbus: The African Presence in Ancient America

African Presence in Early America
Blacks in Science: Ancient and Modern (Journal of African Civilizations)

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Daejoyoung:
What does that mean? you don't agree the meek would inherit the earth?

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Firstly, it doesnt matter what i believe, eventhough i will say tell you what i believe, and that is the powerful and consistent will inherit earth; all the evidence suggest that W.E.B Dubois was onto something in that quote.

Furthermore, we all need to put away our false differences and start to work for our great continent.

There exist no conflict of interest in the African psyche once we remove the cancer that is Abrahamic religious ideologies.

Daejoyoung:
ok give me a few quotes and teachings of our ancestors from these books that inspire you and you think the world should know about.

Let's concentrate our attention on secular history that is taught by our historians i.e Wole Soyinka, Chinua Achebe, Cheikh Anta Diop, Dr Hendrik Clarke, Dr Ivan Sertima e.t.c

One cannot approach African history from an anciebt Arabian or Eurocentric viewpoint.

Daejoyoung:
ok give me a few quotes and teachings of our ancestors from these books that inspire you and you think the world should know about.

Lets focus our attention on sercular history, here is a quote from W.E.B Dubois:

"If there are anybody in the outside world who thoroughly believes that the meek shall inherit the Earth, they have not often let their presence be known"

Daejoyoung:
...asking what are their source materials? where did they get their information from?

Genuine research.

Dr Cheikh Anta Diop was a Senegalese historian, antropologist, and physicist who studied the origin of humanity and pre-Abrahamic religious African culture.

Dr Ivan Sertima was a Guyanese associate professor African studies at Rutgers in the United States, SOAS University of London, London University.

Grab a copy of those books and you will be presented with all their sourced material.

All their materials are sourced accordingly.

Daejoyoung:
l asked for how the artefacts help shape our worldview and reality.
To be honest, l don't understand more than half of what you wrote.
For example if l ask, what are the basic doctrines of the buddha, l would be introduced to the 8 fold paths of enlightenment, as well as teachings on Meditation. l am asking for something similar about our ancestors.
Give me references to basic spiritual teachings of our ancestors.
This is why books are important, because if there were books of old writing about the likes of shango, ogun, and the likes, then one could be easily exposed to those ancient teachings, but now you say all we have are just artefacts?

You are conflating a few things, African history comprises of a stew that contains:

(a) secular history
(b) classified history.

Anyone can learn, study and explore secular history by ways of reading and studying genuine African historian material. i.e Prof. Ogundiran, Dr Cheikh Anta Diop. e.t.c

That is to say, take for instance Diop; he is the author of the book: "The African Origin of Civilisation"

Dr Ivan Sertima wrote the history textbook titled "They Came Before Columbus: The African Presence in Ancient America".

Get your hands on these books and similar type of genuine African historians i.e Dr Hendrik Clarke, Paul Barton e.t.c


As for classified history:-

Now lets overlook the classified because they are classified for a reason. Once we reach the levels of spirutuality that is required or maybe you are crowned King/Queen then the classical history will be afforded to such a person(s).

Securlar history is suffecient enough for us to be able to understand history.

The importance of history is multi faceted, yet there are certain advantages that truly stands out:

(a) In order to learn of the best and more secure ways of achieving successfullness in our everday lives.

(b)
[1] The most effective ways of averting mistakes.

[2] The most effective ways of correcting a failed attempt at achieving a successful venture.

History is important for those reason stated above and for various other reasons that are easily perceivable on the back of a genuinely virtuous and sober effort during our studies..

Never attempt to create malicious fabrications and or false perceptions about  African history, anyone who does will always find themselves to blame.

Be at your best behaviour when infront of real history.

Be sober, caring, patriotic, humble and protective of history in order that it may never ever be forgotten.

Remember, the legacy of our history doesnt really belong to any era, except the ones that roll their sleeves up to claim it as their own.

There's no doubt in my mind, the era that lays claim to our real history, will always excel beyond their own expectations.

Write about African history according to genuine African historians.

Talk about Africa into the terms of her great significance with regards to history.

Defend Africa against foreign rhetorical commentary.

How to Assist Africa into scoring our goals.

 
Let the people of planet Earth know what it really meant to be an African.

The time for pitter-patter has already past, its time to embody the persona in the success of our ancestors.

Be one with the continent, treat her with genuine care, and be prepared to be presented with limitless opportunities to make a good living.

Everytime one utters bad words about these place, such a person is weakening that which is his/her natural protection.

The place they call Africa owns all the greatest assists in all of history

The rest of the world arent robotic stooges they are our competitors. They have always been our competitors and they still are.

Africa in its prime becomes a place that discription could only possibly be found in sci-fi movies similar to Wakanda in Marvels Black Panther's comic superhero series.

When the majority of hearts and minds residing within one are seeing these place in the most uplifting light, then Africa beams in all her glory.


No matter the initial feedback, the impact of your works would certainly be appreciated those that feel as though Africa might not be working for them, how about we all start working for Africa.

Due to the significance of our continent on history and the light to which the entire universe is meant to see us,  amomgst those of us that genuinely works towards a better Africa, some might reap best of the benefits here on Earth, some might be amazingly suprised to experience an excellent after-life.

Acknowleging  history would instantly make her true worth magnify into the ether.

Transmitting to all the correct places, leading to unavoidable progress in our everyday lives.



Theres a suggestion that says Africa needs more from all of us.

Daejoyoung:
What do the artefacts tell us about spirituality and our existence? what do they say about sickness, suffering and death?

Artefacts are given their correct and accurate datings.

Then, these dates assist in allowing us to appear in the past, as far as the date of the given artefact.

And as such provide us with the ability to learn the type of technologies, explore, tap into, make something successfull out of e.t.c that are found to be there.

Learn of our ancestors commercial structural techniques that they used to tackle their times.

Most artefacts are in all reality an epistles of histories, both secular and classified.

Now lets overlook the classified because they are classified for a reason. Once we reach the levels of spirutuality that is required or maybe you are crowned King/Queen then the classical history will be afforded to such a person(s).

For now, the correct and accurate secular interpretation of an artefact is all anyone needs in order to ascertain successfull interpretation.

Learn, study and explore what the genuine non-Abrahamic religious secular narrative of any artefact might be.

Get access to our national archives and other international archives and learn, study and explore the many excavations that has been performed in your place of study.

You dont need anyone to tell you what history is, anyone can find out for themselves.

Daejoyoung:
Well l agree with you that studying African history would have been worthwhile, but we have very little in terms of books and documented religious writings, we have more of oral traditions rather, and part of the strength of Abrahamic religions is that they have written down books.

l don't believe everything in the bible is true because l don't worship the bible, however l appreciate a lot of the teachings of jesus...

I have nothing negative to say about your post.

All can write is that i wish for the Almighty God to bless you in order for you to fight on the correct side of the African and help defeat all the false narratives that are out there.

The African cause is a JUST one.

Jesus is a fictitious character.

Maximus69:
According to the book you're trying to debunk, Jesus was cool calm and collected, he speaks calmly with people who comes to ask him questions and by the time he was leaving, 500 individuals were ready to carry out his orders!

Perhaps you need to study how he did it for you to become a greater philanthropist than Jesus of Nazareth!

Regardless of all the great qualities the authors bestowed upon the Jesus character, he fails on the first hurdle.

Jesus is a philantropist.

Jesus is good.

Jesus is kind.


Question:

Is Jesus real?

Answer:

No.

Total score equals to zero.

Daejoyoung:
Where are the African religious books that date back at least

Much of West Africa history has been proven to be true.

Artefacts are more reliable than a book, and their are artefacts out there that African historians have been able to date themselves personally; i.e Ogundiran, Cheikh Anta Diop e.t.c

Let me make something clear, nobody anywhere in the world is disputing West African history.

African history, is the only historical narrative in the entire world that has corroboration.

Daejoyoung:
...but we have very little in terms of books and documented religious writings, we have more of oral traditions rather...
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That is what i used to think until i found the writings of genuine African historians similar to Cheikh Anta Diop, Paul Barton, Dr J Hendrik Clarke, Wole Soyinka, Chunua Achebe, Nnamdi Azikwe, W.E.B. Du Bois, Fela Anikulapo Kuti e.t.c .

Aswell as, even more important still, learning, studying with an open mind and defending the genuine principles of our own philosophies in order that we may be able to successfully say to ourselves that we are contributing to our rich and relevant legacy.

African philosophies does have literature.

According to African history, that which is already proven by UNESCO, our ancestors are the first people in history to become literate.

These can only be realised by a genuine study of African history using the materials of genuine African historians.

Kindly accept my apology off hand but to forward my point i need to use these type of qualifications.

Its important to note that the Abrahamic religions are the reason behind the desecration of sacred sites and burning of libraries and other types of institutions of learning.

Yet, the Earth will never lie.

African historians are able to bring back much of the though off as losr material by lucky finds and sheer hard work and dedication

Daejoyoung:
Well l agree with you that studying African history would have been worthwhile...

Well I agree with you aswell that studying African history is worthwhile and would like to add that its also indicative; more of a perquisite to the effort that ought to be awarded into making our world a better place.

There isnt one character or storyline inside Genesis that the Abrahamic religions can claim to being original, either they was stolen, directly copied, plagiarised, repackaged, sexed-up or outrightly fabricated.

The authors of Abrahamic text plagiarised the Genisis story from various different older religious characters and concepts that arent original to either Christianity, Islam or Judaism. i.e African spirituality, ancient Arabian ideologies aswell as ancient European ideologies.

The Genesis storyline is fake.

All Abrahamic religious text are fake, false and conter intuitive.

Maximus69:
That could only be accepted if you can present something of higher value than the Christian Bible.

The Christian bible has zero credibility or value therefore to find something that is higher isnt even much of a task.

Look out of your window and ask Joe of the street, does Africa have a history?

History is what everyone needs to concentrate our focus.

We need to get rid of the falsehood peddled by the Abrahamic religions and focus our attention on real history.


Question:

Where can i find real history, and what kind of history should really be of my concern?


Answer:

Africa



All the histories of the world are proof that the Abrahamic religions are fake.

Asian history tells us that the Christian Bible, Quran and the Torah are fake.

African history tells us the Christian Bible, Quran and the Torah are fake.

European history tells us the The Christian Bible and the Torah are both fake.

Since the Christian bible's motive is to attempt to replace real history with its fakery, its only advisable for anyone to peel away the layers of fakery and actual focus on the real history that Abrahamic religious text attempts to hide from us

91% of African history isnt being studied by Africans.

And yet, humanity began in Africa and then our ancestors went on to populate the rest of the world.

Africans are the first people to explore and populate all the other 'continents.

Africans invented paper and they invented the ink pen.

Africans discovered the concepts of literacy.

Africans discovered the concepts of numeracy.

African sailors are the firsr to have circumnavigate the seven seas.

African architects and engineers are the first to explore the concepts of aerodynamics.

Civilization began in Africa and then it proceeded to trickle out to the rest of the world.

Everyone currently living on planet Earth all descend from African ethnicities.

These are the truths we need to be mining and cease to invest our positive energy on the fakery coming out of the ancient Arabian fundamentalist and or Eurocentric ideologies that are designed to benefit other people.

Maximus69:
...But outrightly making unreasonable assertions on social media...

Amujale:
I challenge you to point out one falsehood made in any of my previous post.

Instead of you to consider what has been said here with reason, you attempt to cpmpound your own ignorance.

Maximus69:
[s]Before any write up could be considered, right thinking individuals always compare the topic and introduction.

If the topic is interesting and the introduction makes sense, then only lazy ones will ignore such comment no matter how lengthy it is.

After reading through, the next thing any intellectual will do is to think of what benefit this will bring to the society at large, that's when you should expect normal people to start thinking on what to do with such a writeup.

But where you the author remain anonymous, no evidence to back your claims and you can't even present another better offer, then your lengthy epistle becomes nonsense and ingredients! [/s]

The above response is inconsequential to the direction of discussion. Let me remind you where our discussion is at.

Maximus69:
...But outrightly making unreasonable assertions on social media...

Amujale:
I challenge you to point out one falsehood made in any of my previous post.

Its either you PUT UP or SHUT UP.

Follow up your initial claim, once you refuse or shy away from using genuine evidence to back them up , we will have to accept that you are a liar and a faker.

Daejoyoung:
These are old claims and are no longer taken seriously by scholars, because the so called similarities have been blown out of proportion. Please do more research on this matter, l'm surprised you believe this.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://evidenceandanswers.org/article/pagan-connection-did-christianity-borrow-from-mystery-religions/&ved=2ahUKEwiNtuCnwKTmAhXM26QKHYE3DmwQFjAPegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw0h-R_FZMjZwh8secKWvh9V&cshid=1575754874425

Whosoever, follows the above link that Daejoyoung is using as a defence of all the Abrahamic religions, will be presented with the writings of a fake historian that has an ulterior motive.

The name of thr site is #www.eviidencdandanswers.org# - straight away you can ascertain that theres no real genuine acadamia attached to as it reads as vague as it does.

The title of the is " Pagan connection: Did Christianity Borrow From Mystery Religions?

First off, Christianity is one of the most mysterious religions out there, the others being Islam and Judaism.

All the Abrahamic religions are mysterious as in they are fake, knowingly unambiguous, not real, impossible, a fake copy of an original, a falsehood, a lie, not true e.t.c


Bad and twisted terminologies that are exclusive to Abrahamic religions and yet are meaningless outside of their circles include:

'Idol', 'Idol Worship', 'Idol Worshiper', 'Gentile', 'Keferi', 'Non- Believer', 'Pagan', 'Unclean'  e.t.c.

In Abrahamic religions, namely Christianity, Islam and Judaism, idolatry connotes the worship of deities and or divinities other than their specific individualistic interpretation of God.

Outside of Abrahamic religions, those type of terms stated above are deemed to be all false and invalid.

You will often catch them making use of unwitty and derogatory terminologies as 'false gods', trying to make it sound as though their manufactured religion is the one and only true version; when in all reality that is not true.

As a matter of fact, all manufactured religions are false, fake and counterintuitive.

When a delusional adherent of Abrahamic religions that hasnt had a bath since their day of birth is calling well kept people 'unclean', how does that make any sense?

Maximus69:
....never heard of John 8:32..

The Christian bible is an unsafe, unethical and unauthorised piece of writing; anyone who uses it as a point of reference is highly mistaken.

The Christian bible isnt an authentic piece of writing.

Maximus69:
...But outrightly making unreasonable assertions on social media...

I challenge you to point out one falsehood made in any of my previous post.

Instead of you to consider what has been said here with reason, you attempt to cpmpound your own ignorance.