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"I am ____ in glory . . . I am the Lord of the Light . . . I am the victorious one . . . I am the heir of endless time . . . I, even I, am he that knoweth the path of heaven"

Amujale:
The Horus quotation is an extract from the Egyptology textbook known as the Book of Going forth by Day and Night.

source: An extensive translation of Late Sir p. LE PAGE RENOUF, knt. continued and completed by Professor of Egyptology at the University of Geneva Prof. E. NAVILLE, D.C.L., cfc, &c.,.


Furthermore, anyone can study those Iconic characters to which was said the Jesus character shares distinct similarities.

i.e

Horus was born out of what can only possibly be called a sheer miracle and are the narrative of each every other one of the other religious[sic] chatacters.


There is aswell another distint relationship with Horus and the Jesus character, and that exist within Horus's relation ship with his mother Isis.

Now everyone has heard of the Jesus and Mary story, yet according to the evidence inside of ancient Egyptian Mythology, Horus and Isis is the inspiration behinde the authors of Abrahamic text that manufactured such

Daejoyoung:
Well ask yourself this, if people were to make up names for the gospels, why use names like Mark, Matthew, and Luke, why not household names like Peter, James, and John?
Also my question was about Paul( our earliest christian writer) writing about 20years after the event, how likely was it that he was writing about a fictitious james and Peter here:

Then after three years, l went up to Jerusalem to see Peter and remained with him fifteen days, but l saw none of the other apostles except james, the lord's brother.
(Galatians 1v18-19).[b]

Or this:

[b]Now when Peter had come to Antioch, l withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed. (Galatians 2v11).

The author speaks of peter as though the people already knew who he was.
Note that this letter is dated to around AD 50( 20 years after jesus).

Are you saying all of these are also fictitious,

Daejoyoung:
Well ask yourself this, if people were to make up names for the gospels, why use names like Mark, Matthew, and Luke, why not household names like Peter, James, and John?
Also my question was about Paul( our earliest christian writer) writing about 20years after the event, how likely was it that he was writing about a fictitious james and Peter here:

Then after three years, l went up to Jerusalem to see Peter and remained with him fifteen days, but l saw none of the other apostles except james, the lord's brother.
(Galatians 1v18-19).[b]

Or this:

[b]Now when Peter had come to Antioch, l withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed. (Galatians 2v11).

The author speaks of peter as though the people already knew who he was.
Note that this letter is dated to around AD 50( 20 years after jesus).

Are you saying all of these are also fictitious,

Amujale:
Peter, James and John are all fake character invented by the authors of Abrahamic religious text.

Here they impersonate the authors in their own text; creating a situation wherby an author is creating authors in their own book.

All the authors of Abrahamic relugious text are dubious and wholly untrustworthy.

Daejoyoung:
Well l am also willing to look into the mythology of my African ancestors and then follow their ways.....

Daejoyoung:
Actually the person you gave me as proof is not an historical scholar...

Daejoyoung:
lol proven by who?
lf jesus is fake, how did christianity arise in the middle of the first century, with paul writing letters just 20years after and claiming to have met the likes of Peter, James and John and writing about them as though his audience needed no introduction to who they were?

Daejoyoung:
lmao, ok l'll make this easy for you.
My question wasn't how they came to prominence, but rather how come all of a sudden they existed in the Roman Empire as early as AD 50.

Daejoyoung:
lol proven by who?
lf jesus is fake, how did christianity arise in the middle of the first century, with paul writing letters just 20years after and claiming to have met the likes of Peter, James and John and writing about them as though his audience needed no introduction to who they were?

Daejoyoung:
lol proven by who?
lf jesus is fake, how did christianity arise in the middle of the first century, with paul writing letters just 20years after and claiming to have met the likes of Peter, James and John and writing about them as though his audience needed no introduction to who they were?

Daejoyoung:
lol proven by who?
lf jesus is fake, how did christianity arise?

Daejoyoung:
lol this is quite hilarious.
Your so called similarities are weak, so you believe the gospel writers set out to recreate a myth of Horus, and all they could come up with was jesus? come on tell me something else.

No reputable scholar today believes jesus is a myth, because you cannot explain the existence of Paul, James and Christianity without Jesus.
EOD.

"I am ____ in glory . . . I am the Lord of the Light . . . I am the victorious one . . . I am the heir of endless time . . . I, even I, am he that knoweth the path of heaven"

Amujale:
The Horus quotation is an extract from the Egyptology textbook known as the Book of Going forth by Day and Night.

source: An extensive translation of Late Sir p. LE PAGE RENOUF, knt. continued and completed by Professor of Egyptology at the University of Geneva Prof. E. NAVILLE, D.C.L., cfc, &c.,.


Furthermore, anyone can study those Iconic characters to which was said the Jesus character shares distinct similarities.

i.e

Horus was born out of what can only possibly be called a sheer miracle and are the narrative of each every other one of the other religious[sic] chatacters.


There is aswell another distint relationship with Horus and the Jesus character, and that exist within Horus's relation ship with his mother Isis.

Now everyone has heard of the Jesus and Mary story, yet according to the evidence inside of ancient Egyptian Mythology, Horus and Isis is the inspiration behinde the authors of Abrahamic text that manufactured such

Daejoyoung:
Well ask yourself this, if people were to make up names for the gospels, why use names like Mark, Matthew, and Luke, why not household names like Peter, James, and John?
Also my question was about Paul( our earliest christian writer) writing about 20years after the event, how likely was it that he was writing about a fictitious james and Peter here:

Then after three years, l went up to Jerusalem to see Peter and remained with him fifteen days, but l saw none of the other apostles except james, the lord's brother.
(Galatians 1v18-19).[b]

Or this:

[b]Now when Peter had come to Antioch, l withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed. (Galatians 2v11).

The author speaks of peter as though the people already knew who he was.
Note that this letter is dated to around AD 50( 20 years after jesus).

Are you saying all of these are also fictitious,

Daejoyoung:
These are old claims and are no longer taken seriously by scholars, because the so called similarities have been blown out of proportion. Please do more research on this matter, l'm surprised you believe this.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://evidenceandanswers.org/article/pagan-connection-did-christianity-borrow-from-mystery-religions/&ved=2ahUKEwiNtuCnwKTmAhXM26QKHYE3DmwQFjAPegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw0h-R_FZMjZwh8secKWvh9V&cshid=1575754874425

Amujale:
The Horus quotation is an extract from the Egyptology textbook known as the Book of Going forth by Night and Day.

source: An extensive translation of Late Sir p. LE PAGE RENOUF, knt. continued and conpleted by [b]Professor of Egyptology at the University of Geneva [/b]Prof. E. NAVILLE, D.C.L., cfc, &c.,.


Furthermore, anyone can study those Icon characters to which was said the Jesus character share distinct similarities.

i.e

Horus was born out of what can only possibly be called a sheer miracle and are the narrative of each every other one of the other religious[sic] chatacters.


There is aswell another distint relationship with Horus and the Jesus character, and that exist within Horus's relation ship with his mother Isis.

Now everyone has heard of the Jesus and Mary story, yet accirding to the evidence inside of ancient Egyptian Mythology, Horus and Isis is the inspiration behinde the authors of Abrahamic text that manufactured such story.


You dont need to take my word for that, go and research on Horus and the other Iconic chracters with the understanding that they all predate the Jesus character; and come up with your own conclusion.

Daejoyoung:
please do more research, these are all old claims that have been debunked severally.

[b]The position that Christianity borrowed from the mystery religions was taught in the nineteenth century by the History of Religions School; however, by the mid-twentieth century, this view was shown to be false and thus abandoned even by those who believed Christianity was purely a natural religion.2 Ron Nash wrote, “During a period of time running roughly from about 1890 to 1940, scholars often alleged that primitive Christianity had been heavily influenced by Platonism, Stoicism, the pagan religions, or other movements in the Hellenistic world. Largely as a result of a series of scholarly books and articles written in rebuttal, allegations of early Christianity’s dependence on its Hellenistic environment began to appear much less frequently in the publications of Bible scholars and classical scholars. Today most Bible scholars regard the question as a dead issue.”3

Despite the fact that many of the arguments were rejected, this theory has once again emerged through the popular writings of skeptics. What makes Christianity unique among the world religions is that it is a historical faith based on the historical person of Christ who lived a miraculous life. In this essay, I will examine the alleged parallels and evaluate whether Christianity teaches a unique savior or is simply a copy of these pagan myths.. In this essay, I will examine the alleged parallels and evaluate whether Christianity teaches a unique savior or is simply a copy of these pagan myths.
[/b]


https://probe.org › the-pagan-conne...
Did Christianity Borrow from Pagan Religions? - Early Christianity and ...

Daejoyoung:
Sorry, l said give me scholarly work to show jesus is fiction. l mean real academia, not any random atheist website.

l am talking of scholarly research from Professors and Doctors of history.

Maximus69:
My friend you're not here to convince me so i'm free to believe whatever i choose, whether i believe Jesus is God or whatever i make with Abrahamic religious text is none of your concern since you're not here to CONVINCE me!

musicwriter:
Of course, I also used to believe in Jesus when I was a fool. And if you really believe in the words in bold, then its arrogant of you talking about Jesus and the bible, instead of listening to the Jews who the Messiah were promised.

If you want to know why, who, when and where your bible came from and who wrote it, read the book Caesar's Messiah. It explains historically who wrote the bible. It was made into a documentary. See the documentary below.

CAESAR'S MESSIAH.
Origin of Christianity- The Flavian Dynasty Connection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nYUJTRos5o&t=40s

Daejoyoung:
What is your proof for this claim? Give me scholarly sources from actual historians who claim this, and the quotes with links.

Amujale:
Everyone knows that Christianity was manufactured in the 1st century. Ancient Egypt mythology predates Christianity in years that amount in their hundreds and thousands.

The Jesus character was invented by the Romans

He takes out of various older characters, the most popular is Horus and this due to the striking characteristics they both possess.

The obvious one is the Mother-Child relationship,

Isis and Horus
Mary and Jesus

Then you have them using similar terminology:

"I am Horus in glory . . . I am the Lord of the Light . . . I am the victorious one . . . I am the heir of endless time . . . I, even I, am he that knoweth the path of heaven"


Then you have the "Ankh", according to Ancient Egyptians is supposed to be the symbol of re-birth or reincarnation. The one Horus is holding in the depiction below.

The authors of Abrahamic text plagerized Ancient Egyptian text and religious concepts as they did with various many others.

These similar pattern is also identified with relationships between Jesus and Krishna, Jesus and Buddha e.t.c

Hence, the reason one can readily conclude that Jesus is a ficticious character.

Daejoyoung:
What is your proof for this claim? Give me scholarly sources from actual historians who claim this, and the quotes with links.

Amujale:
...That is exactly what Horus told his followers in ancient Egypt.

Jesus is an adaptation, an unsafe, unethical and unauthorised plagiarisation of the Horus and various other ancient characters. i.e Buddha, Dionysus, Ela, Krishna, Osiris, Merlin, Romulus e.t.c

BdorianGray:
5. - At a reunion, a story was told, that the grandmothers of several of the present used to
relate the following anecdote about witches: in the times of the Revolution some
people found several pair of legs among the ashes of an oven or of the big braziers that
were used in the large houses of that time; afraid of such discovery, they waited in order
to see what was happening and were surprised that some time later the witches returned
in their brooms, without their legs, and that they put them back by means of the art of
magic; they celebrated there a strange ritual and then were gone to their houses like any
normal people. These stories circulated by word of mouth between the neighbors of the
region, causing astonishment. Would you be so kind to tell us whether these events were
true?

R. - Distinguished gentleman, we have already spoken quite clearly about this and we
could assert that such things are true. This type of tenebrous people, here in our Country,
abandon their legs when they enter the Fourth Dimension.

6. - Only here in our Country?

R. - Yes, those of us who we have explored the different Metaphysical lands we know
that this act, abandoning the legs, happens only in our homeland.

We have explored different countries and places and the investigation has taken us very
far.

Permit me inform you that in smc, the Castle of...... exists, inside
which the Workshop of Witchcraft functions; the harrowing witches, affiliated to that
hole of darkness, attend their meetings and they don’t leave their legs in their beds,
neither at the foot of the chimney, neither elsewhere. That class of people is becoming
more and more perverse and they are finally thrown in the dark abyss where one can only
hear the cries and the gnashing of teeth.

7. - In a certain place that I used to know in our Country, being on my bed face up, I
felt noises in the part of the room where I was. I perceived an unpleasant scent that
penetrated below the door, and minutes I later felt that a person sat on my chest
paralyzing my whole body. I was not able to speak; neither to make any muscular
movement.

After a few minutes I remembered that I could save myself making a Conjuration, but
since I could not speak, the only thing I could make, mentally, was the sign of the Star of
Five Points and the entity retired. Could you do me the favour of clarifying what class of
entity was this, Sir?

R. - I will answer the distinguished gentleman his question. We know by direct
experience that those abominable creatures of the witches’ Sabbath are accustomed to
throw themselves on the bodies of their victims, in order to bite them in the body forming
horrible stains in their skin, or in order to take out of the dense form the Soul and take it
to any place of the world, or in order to torment them in any way.

In these cases, we have advised to pray with great vehemence,
recite the Conjuration of the Seven of Solomon, or
the Conjuration of the Four; this type of prayers is of extraordinary efficacy for the
mental and physical defense. With these conjurations the harrowing harpies flee leaving
us in peace.


CONJURATION OF THE SEVEN

"In the name of Michael, may Jehovah command thee and drive thee hence, Chavajoth!
In the name of Gabriel, may Adonai command thee, and drive thee hence, Bael!
In the name of Raphael, begone before Elial, Samgabiel!
By Samael Sabaoth, and in the name of Elohim Gibor, get thee hence, Andramelek!
By Zachariel et Sachel-Melek, be obedient unto Elvah, Sanagabril!
By the divine and human name of Shaddai, and by the sign of the Pentagram which I hold
in my right hand, in the name of the angel Anael, by the power of Adam and Eve, who
are Jotchavah, begone Lilith! Let us rest in peace Nahemah!
By the holy Elohim and by the names of the genii Cashiel, Sehaltiel, Aphiel and Zarahiel,
at the command of Orifiel, depart from us Moloch! We deny thee our children to devour!
Amen. Amen. Amen."

Tbc,,,,

blazepascal:
The trinity consist of 3 God God the father is the almighty and the holy spirit and jesus are part of God when john was about to baptise jesus did u notice what happened the trinity took place immediately jesus is the son of God and he is still part of God

blazepascal:
is the son of God...

Maximus69:
If it's NOT your responsibility to convince me, then what are you doing here?

Amujale: Since you seem to have bought into the naratives of manufactured religions, hence, its you that answers the questions here.


Who manufactured the Abrahamic religions?

How old are the Abrahamic religions?

Which continent has existed for the longest?

When is it possible for a toddler to write the autobiography of his/her grand parents?

To which continent does the characters inside of Abrahamic religious text belong?

What is the nationality of the characters in Abrahamic religious text?

Who invented these characters inside of Abrahamic religious text and why?

cuteboy2:
.....

cuteboy2:
..gods..

cuteboy2:
Generalisation. You only feel safe when you put all 3 faiths in the same boat

cuteboy2:
Generalisation. You only feel safe when you put all 3 faiths in the same boat