Amujale:
All Abrahamic religious text are false, fake and counterintuitive.

Maximus69:


Obviously you're just a toddler mimicking what's heard and nothing more!

When intellectuals talks, we discuss on existing problems and the possible solution's. NOT just some repetitive assertions of no value!

Granted, you might have met lot and lots of misrepresentatives claiming they believe in our book {BIBLE} countless times, but when you meet true Christians you must bow as in BOW to higher intellect!

This is for you to keep in your minds, perhaps you're a normal human having wife and children.

©KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of useful information. We know everyone possesses this and so we appreciate you no matter where you come from as long as you know some necessary things!

But

©WISDOM is the practical applications of accumulated information for lasting benefits. This is what only true Christians possesses! WISDOM has tree factor: Theories, Practical Applications and Benefits Without this logic, there is no sense in whatever assertions anyone is making!

You must have the THEORIES~ Any kind of stories whether true or false packaged in your brains, an example is what you're trying to do now, making so much assertions driving you to think you know better than others!

You must have the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS ~ This is what i'm trying to verify from you, perhaps there is anything worthwhile in your brains that other right thinking individuals can share, it must have something to do with :how do we make the best use of what you've got?

Your claims must bring LASTING BENEFITS to those who listens and buy what you're spewing ~ This means the obvious, indisputable advantages of the info you're trying to input in the brains of your fellowman!

Without this, then you're not different from a toddler who is mimicking only the things he/she is hearing others saying! Your wife and children will soon notice you're just spewing what you can't prove and after saying so much, they'll leave you with your assertions and each will start developing their own mindsets. Well the menace of this is that each will take up any form of information that really appeals to them whether advantageous or detrimental, based on their level of perception!
It's then you will realise that you've done nothing as in achieved NOTHING with all your stories and you're left alone with your assertions!

So my questions again!

©How does the so called Almighty God communicate with his/her/its creatures?

©Is he/she/it interested in their well being?

©What has he/she/it been doing to help them live as one happy global family?

If you can't answer these questions, then you need to first go and learn what being an intelligent asserter entails, before coming to engage intellectuals in thought provoking discussions of this type!

Thanks!

Amujale:


What exctly is your point?

When is it my responsibility to convince you to believe in God or not to believe in God?, that is for you to decide on your own.

Whether you believe in God or not, doesnt change the perception of IT's universal existence.

Jesus is not God.

God is God.

Since you seem to have bought into the naratives of manufactured religions, hence, its you that answers the questions here.

Do you believe in the Almighty God?

Who manufactured the Abrahamic religions?

How old are the Abrahamic religions?

Which continent has existed for the longest?

When is it possible for a toddler to write the autobiography of his/her grand parents?

To which continent does the characters inside of Abrahamic religious text belong?

What is the nationality of the characters in Abrahamic religious text?

Who invented these characters inside of Abrahamic religious text and why?

Amujale:
Abrahamic religious text peddle a false and fake representation of history.

Abrahamic religious text are copied from older concepts and philosophies, that is the reason they are fake.

Manufactured stories that have been repackaged out of borrowed content of numerous communitues from around the world and without any logical justification claiming to be the originators.

Maximus69:

What you failed to understand is the fact that those who truthfully wants to worship God have lots of questions lingering in their figurative hearts UNANSWERED, ...

Maximus69:

But if you can't then...

Amujale:
Since you seem to have bought into the naratives of manufactured religions, hence, its you that answers the questions here.

Do you believe in the Almighty God?

Who manufactured the Abrahamic religions?

How old are the Abrahamic religions?

Which continent has existed for the longest?

When is it possible for a toddler to write the autobiography of his/her grand parents?

To which continent does the characters inside of Abrahamic religious text belong?

What is the nationality of the characters in Abrahamic religious text?

Who invented these characters inside of Abrahamic religious text and why?

Amujale:


The Almighty God is that which cannot be fully revealed to the human pyche.

Jesus isnt God.

God is God.

Maximus69:


This is where you're making the issue complicating!

If you're 100% sure that the Almighty God cannot be fully revealed to the human pyche, then why trying to change the perception of other intelligent creatures like yourself when you're also human who can not fully grasp the things of Almighty God?

Going by your own analogy, each person should keep to himself whatever he feels about God, and that should start with you since that's what you strongly hold at heart!

Amujale:
God is God.

The Jesus character is a ficticious one, is not God.

Maximus69:


You said "God cannot be fully understood by humans" but you're here asserting that what some said about God is false.

Please how can you be so sure that they're right or wrong if God cannot be fully understood?

It would have made more sense if you just say "I am NOT sure if that is true" than coming to the public on social media to start making assertions when you yourself have disqualified anyone from having insight regarding the Personality of Almighty God!

Amujale:


The Jesus character isnt God.


Answer these questions instead of veering of on a tangent.


.How old are the Abrahamic religions?

.Who invented these characters inside of Abrahamic religious text and why?

.Who manufactured the Abrahamic religions?

.Which continent has existed for the longest?

.To which continent does the characters inside of Abrahamic religious text belong?

.What is the nationality of the characters in Abrahamic religious text?

.When is it possible for a toddler to write the autobiography of his/her grand parents?

In order to determine the the answers to these questions, one would have to disregard all the Abrahimic religious text out there and instead refer to real history.

Maximus69:


You yourself said "The Almighty God cannot be fully understood"

Meaning "there's no document that can provide us with accurate information about the Almighty God"

That's means whatever information anyone {including you} have is INACCURATE!

So there is no reason pestering you any further for what you yourself have already declared yourself incompetent to prove!

It's rather advisable to stick to those who are 100% certain of what they've got! Matthew 28:18

Amujale:


The Jesus story is fake.

The Jesus character was invented out of the plagerisation of older relgious concepts and icons from across the globe. i.e Buddha, Ela, Horus, Krishna, Romulus e.t.c.

There isnt one character or storyline present in all of Abrahamic text that can claim to being original.

All Abrahamic religious text are fake, false and counterintuitive.

hupernikao:
EXPLANATION OF JOHN 1:1 (Theon and Theos)
Kindly read carefully.

Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος (NLT)
En archē ēn ho Logos kai ho Logos ēn pros ton Theon kai Theos ēn ho Logos (KJV)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (KJV)

THEON
The word Theon occurred in the New Testament Scriptures 148 times. It simply means A deity, especially the supreme Divinity. Observe the following text usage of Theon

Matthew 4:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God (Theon)

Matthew 5:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God (Theon)

John 1:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 No man hath seen God (Theon) at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 14:1 King James Version (KJV)
14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God (Theon), believe also in me.

Acts 16:25 King James Version (KJV)
25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God (Theon): and the prisoners heard them.

Hebrews 6:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God (Theon) to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

The word Theon is a Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular.

THEOS
The word Theos occurred in the New Testament Scriptures 311 times. It is also simply translated as A deity, especially the supreme Divinity same as Theon.
Observe the following text usage of Theos



Ephesians 4:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 One God (Theos) and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Observe that in the verses above God (almighty) was rendered as Theos and not Theon. It is also good to know that in the 311 times usage, Theos was referred to God almighty over 250 times without speaking about Jesus. For example in John 3:16

16 For God (Theos) so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

God here is the Father, Almighty, yet Theos was used. That means the Greek did not used Theon as a reserved name for God almighty but used Theos likewise. As seen above, Theos (311 times) was used as twice as Theon (148 times) to refer to God in the scriptures.
The word Theos is a Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular

Now to John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (Theon), and the Word was God (Theos). (KJV)
From above explanation it should be clear to you that Theos and Theon means God and not a variant of God. So, the question will be why was Theon and Theos used here. Let us do a little of word construction study.


Hence John 1:1 usage of Theon and Theos is not a change of personalities. It is not referring to two personalities but one. The usage of two different word construction is due to the Greek sentence construction in using Nominative (Noun) in subject, in this case Theos (God (Theos) was the word) and Accusative Noun as receiver. In this case Theon (The Word was God (Theon)). [/color]

TruthinAction:


It is not my claim. It is what the Scripture teaches unless you want to rewrite the Bible.

God expresses himself in three personalities - The father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. These three are one. The Father is the Head of Jesus but they have the same nature and essence.

The father takes decision, Jesus executes it and the Holy Spirit supplies the power. This is the mystery of trinity.

That I submit to my earthly father does not make me a lesser human being.

In the same sense, that Jesus submits to his father does not make him a lesser God. The fullness of God dwells in Jesus. He is the radiance of his glory and beauty. No wonder Jesus said, he who has seen me has seen the father.

TruthinAction:


God expresses himself in three personalities -

hupernikao:
Hence John 1:1 usage of Theon and Theos is not a change of personalities. It is not referring to two personalities but one. .

Amujale:


What exctly is your point?

When is it my responsibility to convince you to believe in God or not to believe in God?, that is for you to decide on your own.

Whether you believe in God or not, doesnt change the perception of IT's universal existence.

Jesus is not God.

God is God.

Since you seem to have bought into the naratives of manufactured religions, hence, its you that answers the questions here.

Do you believe in the Almighty God?

Who manufactured the Abrahamic religions?

How old are the Abrahamic religions?

Which continent has existed for the longest?

When is it possible for a toddler to write the autobiography of his/her grand parents?

To which continent does the characters inside of Abrahamic religious text belong?

What is the nationality of the characters in Abrahamic religious text?

Who invented these characters inside of Abrahamic religious text and why?

Janosky:


If hupernikao includes 'holy ghost', still no way.
His triune God can't " expresse himself in three personalities..."

Una CONFUSION tie Gele & wrapper.

Janosky:


Rev 3:12, Is Jesus Christ in heaven equal to his God?

Can you give just ONE example in your Bible where the Father and God of Jesus received/obeyed the command of Jesus his son?

Maximus69:



If it's NOT your responsibility to convince me, then what are you doing here?

Amujale:
Since you seem to have bought into the naratives of manufactured religions, hence, its you that answers the questions here.


Who manufactured the Abrahamic religions?

How old are the Abrahamic religions?

Which continent has existed for the longest?

When is it possible for a toddler to write the autobiography of his/her grand parents?

To which continent does the characters inside of Abrahamic religious text belong?

What is the nationality of the characters in Abrahamic religious text?

Who invented these characters inside of Abrahamic religious text and why?

blazepascal:
The trinity consist of 3 God God the father is the almighty and the holy spirit and jesus are part of God when john was about to baptise jesus did u notice what happened the trinity took place immediately jesus is the son of God and he is still part of God

blazepascal:
is the son of God...

Amujale:


I dont know where you think you are going with such an inconsequential response.




Jesus is a fictitious character.

Jesus is not God.

Abrahamic religious text peddle a false and fake representation of history.

Concentrate your focus on providing the answers to the questions in the post above.

Amujale:


Jesus is a fictitious character.

Jesus isnt God.



That is exactly what Horus told his followers in ancient Egypt.

Jesus is an adaptation, an unsafe, unethical and unauthorised plagiarisation of the Horus and various other ancient characters. i.e Buddha, Dionysus, Ela, Krishna, Osiris, Merlin, Romulus e.t.c

Daejoyoung:

What is your proof for this claim? Give me scholarly sources from actual historians who claim this, and the quotes with links.

Amujale:


...That is exactly what Horus told his followers in ancient Egypt.

Jesus is an adaptation, an unsafe, unethical and unauthorised plagiarisation of the Horus and various other ancient characters. i.e Buddha, Dionysus, Ela, Krishna, Osiris, Merlin, Romulus e.t.c

Daejoyoung:

What is your proof for this claim? Give me scholarly sources from actual historians who claim this, and the quotes with links.

Amujale:



Everyone knows that Christianity was manufactured in the 1st century. Ancient Egypt mythology predates Christianity in years that amount in their hundreds and thousands.

The Jesus character was invented by the Romans

He takes out of various older characters, the most popular is Horus and this due to the striking characteristics they both possess.

The obvious one is the Mother-Child relationship,

Isis and Horus
Mary and Jesus

Then you have them using similar terminology:

"I am Horus in glory . . . I am the Lord of the Light . . . I am the victorious one . . . I am the heir of endless time . . . I, even I, am he that knoweth the path of heaven"


Then you have the "Ankh", according to Ancient Egyptians is supposed to be the symbol of re-birth or reincarnation. The one Horus is holding in the depiction below.

The authors of Abrahamic text plagerized Ancient Egyptian text and religious concepts as they did with various many others.

These similar pattern is also identified with relationships between Jesus and Krishna, Jesus and Buddha e.t.c

Hence, the reason one can readily conclude that Jesus is a ficticious character.

musicwriter:


Of course, I also used to believe in Jesus when I was a fool. And if you really believe in the words in bold, then its arrogant of you talking about Jesus and the bible, instead of listening to the Jews who the Messiah were promised.

If you want to know why, who, when and where your bible came from and who wrote it, read the book Caesar's Messiah. It explains historically who wrote the bible. It was made into a documentary. See the documentary below.

CAESAR'S MESSIAH.
Origin of Christianity- The Flavian Dynasty Connection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nYUJTRos5o&t=40s

Maximus69:


My friend you're not here to convince me so i'm free to believe whatever i choose, whether i believe Jesus is God or whatever i make with Abrahamic religious text is none of your concern since you're not here to CONVINCE me!

Amujale:


The proof is in the above posts and here below:



Jesus is an adaptation of older iconic characters as expressed above.