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budaatum:
Here's some more reading for you Anas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_impact_on_the_environment?wprov=sfla1

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/topics/zp22pv4/articles/z2md82p

https://interestingengineering.com/10-ways-humans-impact-the-environment

Please google for more on the subject.

I didn't see how man has controlled the elements of the universe in any of the links you posted. You boastfully spat out, Yes Anas. God did leave the elements of the Universe to Man to control.. You even went further to quote Genis which specifically States what God put under the control of humans, hoping it wld cut, but it failed.
So I expected to see the modalities used by scientist to prevent an eruption of a volcano in any country and in what year.

I need to know the scientist who detected an impending earthquake and prevented it from happening. What about flood, hurricanes tsunamis? Blizzards?

Buda don't tell me about the wear and tear of Man's activities on earth and how they affect their environment.

My question is, Did YHWH put man in control of the Universe? And how has he succeeded in controlling things so far?

budaatum:
Control, Anas? Affect would be the more appropriate word in this context.

See how you affect Aba. Last time I checked it was on earth and there's lots of places you've affected that same way through your lack of love of God.

What has the Love of God to do with anything here?
I asked if God has left the control of the earth/universe for Man to control and you Vehemently said Yes.
This is your response "Yes Anas. God did leave the elements of the Universe to Man to control. And I said

You Vehemently agreed that God left the control of the elements of the Universe to man, I was expecting you to mention in history how Man has been able to Control the Seasons and Time, as in, control the movement of the of Sun, moon, and stars.
How has Man controlled the Volcanic eruptions, Hurricanes, Mud slides, Wild fires, Heat waves, waters bodies, Floods, Earthquakes, Tornados, cyclones and typhoons, sand storms?

Why are you now shifting the goal post?

God did put animals, plants and fish under the Dominion of man for man to affect them, He did that for man to rule over them, so pls Budaatum tell me, how has Man controlled whether, volcanic eruptions earthquakes and hurricanes by using science.

budaatum:
Earth is amongst the things you ought to rule over, Anas, but I can understand if that does not extend to you as little is after all expected from those whom little is given, though I think you just want to argue this for the sake of it since Scripture is clear on the matter.

Sorry, but no devil worship for buda today.

Budaatum. What is the earth and how has Man controlled the earth?

Examples pls.

glowingflame7:
Like I said, I'm using the bible context and definition, not the usual Nigerian deliverance context. By the way, the word "demons" doesn't even appear in the kjv bible for instance, now you know. Satan took possession of Peter. There are consequences for not being filled with the Spirit. It is possible for a believer to GIVE room to the devil.

What makes someone a believer?

budaatum:
Did you ignore God said, "Fill the earth and subdue it"?

Did you not see specifically the things Man was mandated to subdue?

budaatum:
Or does it just mean nothing to you?

It means a lot to me that's why I follow scriptures within context not reading my mind into it as you are trying to do here.

budaatum:
It would seem you have not been keeping up to date.

No, you are the one who haven't been keeping up to date. There's no amount of effort anyone wld make that wld change what the Scriptures have said long before we got here.

budaatum:
I suggest you go and read a book on how humans have detrimentally affected the earth so far Anas.

Why do I have to go read a book when you can easily post what you have read here about man's control of the Universe and it's elements.

budaatum:
Start with google. Search for global warming, and climate change, and get back to me when you've bothered to educate yourself.

I think you shd be the one doing that and posting their results here since you have been the one postulating that Man can control the Universe.

I'm surprised how you didn't make any attempt to show one single event of natural disaster that Humans controlled.

glowingflame7:
Like I said, I'm using the bible context and definition, not the usual Nigerian deliverance context. By the way, the word "demons" doesn't even appear in the kjv bible for instance, now you know. Satan took possession of Peter. There are consequences for not being filled with the Spirit. It is possible for a believer to GIVE room to the devil.

And all you read is kvj translation? What kind of a serious Christian reads only one Bible translation?

Satan didn't take possession of Peter pls. Read your Bible very well.

ichuka:
Correct again bro
He's not just the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob nor is He just the God of
ochibuogwu5, HRHQueenPhil(f), Ihedinobi3, nnamdiosu(m), ireneony(f), Explorers(m), Ishilove, Pidggin(f), Anas09, MuttleyLaff, live4dgospel(m), italo, doyinbaby(f), solite3(m), richmekus, bloodofthelamb(m), annyplenty(m), SonofIssachar, jiggaz(m), emvico(m), pamijlove(f), BIBLESPEAKS(m), joyberry(f), pressplay411(m), ScienceWatch, titilayo1993(f), plainbibletruth, fabem(m), An2elect2(f), shdemidemi(m), DrummaBoy(m), Enigma(m), Candour(m), Alwaystrue(f), OLAADEGBU(m), Goshen360(m), aletheia(m), bigd4050, 5solas(m) /1sharon
But The God of All Flesh

What is the purpose of this?

MuttleyLaff:
@^^^^
"JUJU IS NOT TO BE FEARED" means not to be afraid of jazz, village people, winch, voodoo, obeah man etcetera

Yes sir.

MuttleyLaff:
She is not Catholic. I dont know her position with God.

She went to the Vatican and sat in the front row at the pope's general audience in St. Peter's Square and when the Pope greeted her, she held up to him, a small placard signboard message, reading "Join the Climate Strike". It was how the Pope blessed her etcetera

Oh dear. She went to the Vatican by herself or some goons put her up to that?
Who is sponsoring this kid?

Climate Strike? She's looking to go on strike and she wants the Pope to join her?

Wow.

budaatum:
Yes Anas. God did leave the elements of the Universe to Man to control.

Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

You just mentioned Fish, birds, animals, but what I didn't see you mention is The Sun, Moon, Stars, Water, Wind, Fire, Earth.

You Vehemently agreed that God left the control of the elements of the Universe to man, I was expecting you to mention in history how Man has been able to Control the Seasons and Time, as in, control the movement of the of Sun, moon, and stars.

How has Man controlled the Volcanic eruptions, Hurricanes, Mud slides, Wild fires, Heat waves, waters bodies, Floods, Earthquakes, Tornados, cyclones and typhoons, sand storms?

You have been talking about Climate Change and the depletion of the Ozone Layer, What has been done so far can control it?

glowingflame7:
In the Nigerian deliverance context, maybe. But in normal English and bible speak, I'm absolutely spot on.

So you know without any reasonable doubt that demons can possess a holy spirit filled soul?

MuttleyLaff:
https://c.ndtvimg.com/2019-04/136561d_greta-thunbergclimateactivistafp650_625x300_17_April_19.jpg
^{God bless you, continue to work, continue. Go along, go ahead, Pope Francis blessed Greta Thunberg}

She most times, wears this unmistakable trademark distinctive quizzical/menacing look sha

So, shes a Catholic? She must be special for the Pope to bless her specially and for her to speak in the UN. I see a very serious negative personality rising up.

Many Catholics turn out atheists anyways. Look at The Catholic Europe.

nairalandposter:
Are there any discussions or readings of William Shakespeare on nairaland?

That is more important than this question (and topic), in my opinion.


I read the complete works of Shakespeare in elementary or was it secondary school, till now I have not seen any Nigerian under a particular age who I can discuss with.

You can discuss it with me? Which of the books do you want to discuss?

MuttleyLaff:
Sunday, the 23rd of October 4004 BC budaatum
https://answersingenesis.org/bible-timeline/the-world-born-in-4004-bc/

PS: a bit overtly militant, hostile and/or menace looking, this our young 16 year old Greta Thunberg and with this her, getting stroppy "... we would not forgive you..." comment, sukẹ, na wa ooo.

She looks like an atheist groomed.

budaatum:
And that, is your collective understanding?

Is the earth flat too after being created on 4 April 4004bc?

You didn't answer me. Did the Bible say God left the elements of the Universe to Man to control?

LordReed:
It's just so sad to see people surrender their ability to reason to myths. SMH.

You didn't answer me Mr Reed.

These people have been reasoning since Adam chose Knowledge and Wisdom over instructions of Him who created and controls the Universe. And since then they have been reasoning but haven't been able to reason themselves out of Plagues, famine, economic melt downs, Earth quakes, Floods, Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Cyclones ans Typhoons.

It's only foolishness that wld make a man want to fight what he cannot control.

God who created the earth didn't put the Universe and it's elements under Man's Power. If you think you are being smart by reasoning on how to control the elements of Nature, pls by all means, knock yourselves out.

They lied that they went to the moon, now we know they lied. Let's see how they wld lie about controlling Nature.


Read Revelation then you wld know what will become of the Earth in the nearest future. When the Angels begin to pour the Wrath of God on earth, that time you wld be very smart to stop the Angels.

Na just beginning.

LordReed:
So your lack of authority over the climate means we should just accept worsening conditions? LoL. Then they'll say religion doesn't inhibit progress. SMH.

So now that you accept that you lack the power or the authority over the Universe/Climate, do you think gathering in UN and talking nonsense wld change anything?

Anyways, shey they are talking, let's see how they can stop the climate from becoming what it has began to become.



See. The Word of YHWH wld be fulfilled and this is one of the things this earth wld experience. Now sef na joke compared to what will happen when the Church is taken out of here.

You said you read the Bible sometimes abi? Look at what Revelation says wld happen to the death because of the sins of men when your master the AntiChrist is ruling the earth.
Note, even the satan cannot control the climate.

Funny enough, the worst it gets the more the people will indulge in Sin and insult YHWh for their woes.

budaatum:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-causes/

So YHWH handed over the care of the Universe to NationalGeographic Chanel?

Bros/sis. Stop listening to New Age propaganda.

LordReed:
I wonder how you folk will feel when the conditions on earth become really bad, no rapture whisks you away and you have to suffer it like everyone else. I really wonder.

Has YHWH handed over the care of the earth to any man?

He gave Man authority only over the tress, animals fish and to cultivate the earth. What bizness does man have with the Climate?

Una just dey deceive una selves dia.

This is how a thread about stuff like this shd be.

Kudos Op. Keep up the good work.

Maranatha.

glowingflame7:
Satan took possession of Peter in the Bible. And bible says to put on Jesus Christ. That will be senseless if Jesus is always on the Christian automatically.

It's obvious you don't know what possession means.

It's happening.

Some years ago, right here in Nairaland; Muslims like tartar, Empree, and Rilwayne were mocking Christians, calling us weak because a lady Evangelist was killed and nothing was done.

I remember telling them that the sons and daughters of their imams, Emirs, Sultan, and their very elite shall carry the Gospel of Jesus they are fighting to eliminate.

The Lord JESUS told Paul, 'You cannot kick against the pricks'.

What will happen in a short time will shake the Islamic community in Nigeria.
El-Rufai's Son shall become an Apostle of Jesus. Abba Kyari's Daughter shall carry Jesus on her head.

All of them who use Nigerian money to sponsor terrorism against the Church of Christ, shall watch in frustration as their own Children shall become Christians.


The blood of the Faithfuls shall be the Seed of the Future Church.

Muslims shd keep killing Christians. Only Persecution grows the true Church.

HardMirror:
. Anas are you asking what is the name of his God?

Yes nau. Every deity has a name. Don't assume that because they call God it means the same with what you call you God.

Oh wait!!! There's no God. Says hardmirror.

OLAADEGBU:
They are now aiming at our children with the evil propaganda of evolution, climate change and the alternative lifestyles. May we not lose them to this evil generation in Jesus' name.

Amen.




Oh Lord preserve our children from satan.

jesusjnr:
I didn't want to dignify your spiritual bankruptcy with a response but there may be people who are willing to learn from my exposure of it and debunking of your charactereristic lies.

Show me where I ever said or insinuated the bolded anas09. Or have the seed now become the branches all of a sudden?

You lied that I said Jesus is dead when i never did.

And now you out of desperation trying hard to lie that I said the seed that Jesus sowed was the church anas09, why?

Can't you just accept that you are spiritually bankrupt as your mentor, when It has been clearly exposed it via my branches analogy of the church which Jesus said are the branches?

Or you'd show me where Jesus said the seed He sowed was the church, and not the Word of God that He had sown into men's heart to bear fruits?

You are clearly showing signs of someone boxed into a corner where you can't escape, but you feel too big to admit that you were wrong, so you are now clutching at straws.

The church which Jesus said are the branches can die anas09, if it doesn't abide in the Vine. But Jesus the Vine who is sitted with the full complement of full body in the heavenly places on the right hand of God can never die.

But if you like, don't humble yourself and learn the Truth, but continue in your spiritual bankruptcy and lies. Your choice.

So going by your analogy Jesus said His Church with die?

Jesusjnr, do you know what the Church is?

OLAADEGBU:
"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." saith the Lord.

Those days are upon us. What will my Children do?

jesusjnr:
Lolz!

You are even ignorant of your spiritual bankruptcy, not knowing that the church are the branches, and that her ability to stay alive and not die lies in her abiding in the Vine?

Let me stop wasting such jewels on a someone who is blind to the value of it.

Spiritual bankruptcy is a new term you just found? Sorry.

So, The Lord Jesus Christ said His Church is Seed which fell by the way side (the people who heard his words, believed it but after awhile went back to their former lives), or the Seed which fell amongst thorns or stony ground which later died because they didn't have root?

So this is the Church to you Jesusjnr?

In other words, you are saying that the Lord Said His Church can die abi?

Pride won't let you learn.

You have no idea what the Church of Jesus Christ is, so be quiet.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

The God that told me that would soon answer y'all by Himself.

Watch this space.

What is his name?

jesusjnr:
You're very wrong hardmirror, my joy is not short-lived at all.

God warned me that she wasn't ready to come out yet, but I wouldn't listen because I wanted to prove a point. Now I have to pay for the price for not following His leading.

So this is your moment, make sure the most of it while you can because it would be short-lived, for my joy is long-lived.

Which God told you what?
Liar Liar, pant on fire.

jesusjnr:
1) Who are the branches in these saying of Jesus?

2) Can the branches die?

3) If yes, what could make them die?

4) If they die, does the Vine also die as a result?

John 15:5-6 (KJV)

5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Btw these are the Words of Jesus not jesusjnr.

And here is somwone who declares others Spiritually bankrupt. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. My Belle oo.

Who was Jesus referring to in the passage you quoted? The Church or unserious Christians who do not take His Word seriously? The Seed which fell on rocky grounds?

Jesusjnr, when you declared 'the Church is dead' did you assume that the Church is a particular congregation of people or Church attendees?

Do you know what the Church is?

Jesusjnr the Nicolaitan, do you know that by using this scripture to buttress your point means you are saying that Jesus said here that His Church can die?

Can the body die while the head lives?

Can Jesus say that the Gates of hell can not destroy his Church but in another place declare that His Church can die?

When I say you don't know the Word of God, here it is.

Jesusjnr stop using the scriptures out of context.

Jesus never said His Church is the Branch which can die. He gave 4 Categories of people who hear his words and how they deal with Him. Are the 4 categories the Church?

Nicolai stop lying with the Woed of God.

And, I'm still waiting to hear you tell me, pls what is the Truth?

[quote author=jesusjnr post=82444695][/quote]Repent Jesusjnr judgement is on its way.

jesusjnr:
No wonder you lied that I said Jesus who is in heaven was dead, because you've reduced the Vine to the branches of the vine which the church is, so that when the branches does not abide in the Vine and consequently withers and dies, it means in your opinion the Vine itself dying.

Show me one single tree where the branches are dead while the stem remains alive, and I will call you a Nicolaitan.

If a tree dies, where does it begin from? The branches or the stem?

Jesus Christ of Nazareth declared that 'Upon the Rock He has built His Church and nothing can kill it'. But you a servant of satan pretending to be working for the Lord, declared the Church to be dead.

Let him who opposes the Lord stand up.

jesusjnr:
Keep justifying my saying that the church is dead, with your spiritually bankrupt analogy of Jesus the Vine meaning the same thing as His branches. For branches like you in the church who refused to abide in the Vine (His Words) killed the church.

Satan the devil is speaking and acting through you. The Evil spirit of pride is clearly manifest through you. The brethren warm you but you call them agents of Satan. Jesusjnr, judgement is coming.

You who abides in the Vine are the one opposing Jesus, You are Spiritually fervent abi?

Jesusjnr who called Jesus Christ a liar by validating the Apostleship of Paul.

Clap for yourself Nicolai.

jesusjnr:
Paul made mistakes as he claimed Peter and Barnabas who were there before him did, but the difference between them and Jesus, is that Jesus was perfect and never made a single mistake.

Paul made mistakes which Jesus was so stupid to validate, but sent you to invalidate them abi?

Jesus approved everything Paul did, do you call Jesus a fool for doing that? Are you the author of Christianity? Did Jesus hand over his throne to you to judge whonis right and wrong?

jesusjnr:
If you are willing to learn and stop being spiritually bankrupt, that's the difference between the perfect Master, and the brethren inclusive of myself. Mistakes!!!!

If I am willing to learn what exactly? The word of God you don't know. What am I to learn from you? Pride or names of demons?

jesusjnr:
That's why I emphasize the Words of Jesus as Jesus Himself did and thought His disciples to do, because is it perfect and without any mistake.

And all you have ever posted are erroneously taken out of context, and many here have attempted to correct you, but the spirit of satan, the evil fruit of the spirit, Pride, won't let you learn.

I asked you what truth is, you are yet to answer me.

Jesusjnr, what is Truth?