₦airaland Forum

Morizo:
But a documented research shows that 85% of crimes (drug, romance violence, theft etc) are committed by South Africans. Why pin it on fellow blacks as an excuse for you failures in entrepreneurship and talent?

There's a rape every 51 seconds in South Africa and whose committing those crimes?

South African men kill their women in the slightest provocation or when she wants to leave and they also good a world record for such crimes. Is it black foreigners that caused it?

South Africans lifestyle encourage the spread of HIV Aids and they have the the highest percentage in the world. What that caused by foreigners?

Inasmuch as I advocate for our corrupt African leaders to build their countries but your excuses are just plain dumb. You think you'll take over their businesses when they leave?

Even if you do it will collapse in few months cos of the lazy lifestyles most of the South African men live

Madiba will be rolling in his grave...

If you look at crime per capita the African migrant population commits far more crime

0.23% of South Africans are in prison in South Africa where 1% of Nigerians in South Africa are in prison.

DelphiOracle:
is it now a crime to look for a live a better life in south Africa?

it not that black and white but kind of yes. The law would have it that you need to prove that you moved straight from the country where the danger was to South Africa without passing through any safe country to get asylum.

So if you fly from Uganda to South Africa directly and ask for asylum because you're gay it will be heard.

If you took a Bus from DRC to South Africa, travelled through a number of countries with no war to say you were escaping war. Then you will be denied.


If you travel to South Africa and apply for a work Visa since you have a job then they will accept you. But that works for only certain jobs like doctors, not Cleaners, labourers, miners, and other jobs.

360who:
And to think you are South African, on a Nigerian blog saying stuff like this is even more concerning

Just saying the truth. Nigeria's influence on the end of apartheid was small

mastermaestro:
That guy is very ignorant. He doesn't know the staggering number of Chinese and Indians living and working in Africa illegally. Alas! Their skin is white, therefore they can do no wrong!

There are over 300 000 chiness people in South Africa. The largest in Africa. They known about and they all so

Don't live in the town ship areas stealing jobs they could have

Benefit the Nation's finances not drain it

Commit very few crimes they only have an incarceration rate of 0.02%

there is arround 20 000 of those Chinese nationals actually qualify for B-BBEE since them or their families have been here since before 1994

Mrtaye:
Are mzansis living better by looting, killing and wearing animal skin and hopping like antelope all in the name of culture

Please show how many have been looted and how many have been killed?

Pretty sure more Nigerians have been killed in Nigeria over tribal feuds than in these protests.

Mrtaye:
Mumu una wan rewrite history abi....very anyhow people

No rewriting needed. Apartheid ended with a vote in 1992 by the white people. Most white people in South Africa don't know anything about Nigeria today other than 419 scamers are from there.

Economic isolation from the West and social isolation mattered far more.
Not being able to play in the Rugby World Cup was a way bigger issue than Nigeria's money to the ANC

QuinQ:
So what exactly is wrong with wanting to live better in South Africa? Educate us

There is a number of reason.
Job theft

South Africa has high unemployment and most black migrants who come to South Africa work jobs that can be done by South Africans. These are not investors that start companies but cleaners, Uber drivers, labourers, waiters at restaurants, farm workers.

Migrants who work high-end jobs, such as a doctor or other skill are not affected by these protests since they live in upmarket areas.

Drain on the state

South Africa is not wealthy, but it does have a social net for people. But it was strained and only funded by a small part of the country once you include the fact that the single biggest employer in South Africa is the government only a small part of the population pays for the social net. Migrants benefit from this social network. South African Schools, hospitals and other systems are accessed by ilegal Migrants who don't pay taxes since they work illegal jobs with cash payment and often send most of their money home.

Crime

Now South Africans do crime. It not like only migrants do it. But several criminal industries in South Africa are heavily populated by foreigners. The hard drug trade, Poaching, forced prostitution, and illegal mining.

Just so you under under stand to there are 400 Nigerians in south africas prisons out of 34000 nigerians in south africa. Or more than 1%

0.23% of South African nationals are in prison. When you look at every large migrant African population in south africa you see that they commit more crime as a percentage.


So these three things, stealing jobs, draining the social services and crime is why there is such a issue.

As for why the protest marches. It is because the government failed to address the issue.

themanderon:
The colonizers don't care what you are, coloured, black, you are all the same to them.

Try again

themanderon:
It's only a question of time. Thank your stars the colonizers never left your country, it would have been a shit hole like what is obtainable in other war torn African countries considering the way you blacks behave over there.

Since 1994 South africa actually increased the black middle class from 300 000 to over 7 milliojn people
Poverty was decreased from 71% to 38% with extrem poverty now only

Nigeria poverty level has gon from 65% to 63% in the same period. Well done

themanderon:
And because it's better for you today, you suddenly forget you blacks were the scum of the earth during apartheid rule?

I am not black

Eraddray:
Were u born like this ...or ur reasoning is just poor...are u telling me that Pakistani are the only foreigner in ur country..no non Africans with expired visa.....
So Nigerians drive in through ur borders...i believe something is wrong with ur reasoning..and ur talking of point by the way.. u're quite intelligent..
No offense...

It does not matter where they are from. African migrants make up the vast vast majority of percentage. I mean who do you think might be here in numbers illegally. The Europeans, Americans, Chinese?

themanderon:
I have seen about 2 dead and countless beaten to stupor by the zombified apocalyptic mob.

I said the Mob.

The two death where from the Army and the cops. There is currently a massive anti-crime drive in South Africa at this time and it is related to that.

themanderon:
They get jealous of other Africans doing better than them while they wallow in poverty, drunkenness, drug addiction and HIV.

Alcohol consumption in Nigeria is higher if you remove the Muslims from the list.

Poverty in Nigeria is much higher

HIV is on a steady decline and with the new treatment methods that give the infected a normal life that shows the growth is very low. Meanwhile, HIV is on the increase in Nigeria.


There is nothing to be jealous of other African nations. like nothing.

themanderon:
Good thing they fled from those headless Xenophobic zombie mobs.
I knew these people were horrible, but I never knew their ugliness could get to this extent. Truly, one cannot underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
May God protect innocent people from these ogres.

How many people do you think the mob has killed?

Murketeer:
So the 3 Million Chinese he told you about that are Canadians are failed ?... Is China a failed country ?

Out of a billion-plus people.

Eraddray:
If u were doing it to the non Africans too ..it would have been justified... Or are u saying all the non Africans in South Africa are well documented....
Or u're just shameless hating ur own skin...

Did you think before you posted? How many non-African immigrants do you think there are in South Africa? And yes, they are far more well-documented since a Pakistani can't drive to the border and cross it.

Stolen:
IF U EVER MAKE THE MISTAKE OF FALLING FOR DA SCHEME, U WILL GET YOURSELF BACK IN APARTHIED WITH NOBODY TO HEAR YOUR CRIES.


GO AND LISTEN CAREFULLY TO HOW TRUMP TREATED YOUR PRESIDENT IN FRONT OF CAMERA TO KNOW WHAT U ARE COOKING FOR YOUR UNBORN CHILDREN.


U KNOW PEOPLE WHO DID NOT SUFFER CANNOT APPRECIATE THE FREEDOM.


MANDELA WAS IN JAIL AND GOT OLD FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT FREEDOM.

Firstly, I live in Cape Town
Second, I am white
Third, I don't like the DA
Fourth, even though i see the DA in government next election, it won't be a majority government. It will be GNU, probably with Acstion SA, Partic Alliance, IFP, FFP and all the other parties

Stolen:
HOW IS THIS THE MALAWIAN FAULT?


Y NOT YOUR GOVERNMENT FINE OR GIVE PENALTY TO THE BUSINESS THAT EMPLOY SOMEONE UNDOCUMENTED.


RAID SUCH PLACES ARREST THE ILLEGAL WORKER AND ISSUE PENALTY TO THE EMPLOYER?

The police should act. The weak approach and enforcement of laws is a major issue in South Africa. It one of the big reasons I see the ANC losing

sleeknaija:
For your info, I'm not an asylum seeker and I won't be..

Did i ever call you one?

Why do you take this so personally?

Emeskhalifa:
What's the difference between what they do in North and what you guys do to black Africans in South?

In South Africa they find employment, make money and send it back home. they all so get access to South Africas Social Services like medical care
Even access to South African Schools
https://sihma.org.za/Blog-on-the-move/good-news-for-children-of-undocumented-foreign-parents-and-guardians-for-their-admission-into-south-african-schools-1

In north Africa they are exploited

https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/findings/regional-findings/africa/
https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/fr/node/100043193
https://www.iom.int/news/iom-learns-slave-market-conditions-endangering-migrants-north-africa

Kushites:
HE IS TALKING ARRANT RUBBISH.

THERE ARE 5.5 MILLION HAN CHINESE AND 6 MILLION INDIAN IMMIGRANTS OF HINDU EXTRACTION IN AMERICA.
UNDERSTOOD?

There are billion plus people in China and India. 10 million is a small drop.

Anyway, America has a far larger economy and much smaller unemployment numbers. You can not compare South Africa here.

sleeknaija:
You guys will always twist the story so as to to suit you agenda.. that's what I have noticed about this issue.. Whether they are legal or illegal immigrants there is always one issue or d other.

The new issue about how many countries an asylum seeker travels through is new.

Two new laws are now being implemanted

One. If you fail, you Aslym request you can not request again. People were abusing the system since if you got a pending request, you can't be deported, so they would apply be denied and apply again. That loophole is closed now

The second new law is the first safe country. If your journey from the DRC took you through Angola, Namibia, for example then why you know in South Africa?

In fact, why did you leave the DRC. if eastern DRC at war go to where there is no war. The DRC is big.

lordprogress:
what europe, if there is any country that deserve credit for their freedom from the aparthied it will be cuba both military and economic aid not the racist west even nigeria contributed more than the west.
it was not until 1986 before the U.S changed their stance and started mounting economic pressure on them.

It terms of pressuring economically and through stigma, it was not Cuba.

Remember the War in Angola against Cuba ended in the late 1980s, and apartheid ended in the 90s. Now the war was costly for South Africa but that was all because of the embargoes.

I am not saying the Cubans did not help here but even the Cubans needed support from the USSR (and most of the USSR wealth and industry is in the europe part) and the other Warsaw pact members.

Nigeria contributed nothing and really it was probably only so due to the fact that South Africa supported Bifiar. The founder of the South African Special Forces was even in Bifair and left on the last flight out

The average White South African who voted to end Apartheid in 1992 cared more that the Springboks could not play at the World Cup than the fact that they could not trade with Nigeria. By 1992 the South Africa was fully out of the war in Angola along with Cuba

Emeskhalifa:
Ogar rest. Most North African countries are far better than South Africa.
If they ask you guys to travel round the world and see the world from other people's view, you will say no, now see how you are embarrassing yourself in a public forum.

You mean the ones where the enslave black people

Kushites:
WILL YOU SHUT UP THERE.

DOES SOUTH AFRICA NOT HAVE A POLICE FORCE?

WHAT CRIME IS BIGGER THAN EUROPEANS STEALING 80% OF THEIR RESOURCE WEALTH?

DON'T IRRITATE ME THIS MORNING, OKAY?

I'M NOT SOME KID YOU CAN TALK RUBBISH TO, OKAY?

I am simply explaining the reason to you. You not liking it does not change the facts.

Black Africans live in townships and often commit crimes.

Eurpeans dont live near the people that riot and dont comit the same kind of crimes.

Plus, all of South Africa's social services are paid for by only 12% of the population. Do you want to guess who they are.

erico2k2:
You must be very Ignorant, what do you think makes a person Illegal?
Have you in a video see any of these so called SA ask a none African for their documents?

So because these guys had papers, that means all African Migrants are now legal? You asked why black africans are targeted not why these people are targeted.

The vast majority of illegal migrants in this country are from Africa, and even many legal refugees are suspected. How does someone from eastern DRC run to South Africa? How many countries and regions where there is no war did they travel through?

Hypnotise:
Why are only the africans singled out as illegal foreigners? A time will come when African countries will start to fatally target sad africans because they are messing with people’s sources of living

Because bulk of the illegal immigrants are from Africa. Why would an American, European, or Asian illegally immigrate to South Africa

Kushites:
WHY ONLY BLACK AFRICANS??

TELL US.

Black Africans live in areas where black South Africans live.
Black Africans bring crime to those areas.

RandDigital:
"I'm from the eastern province of the DRC, where there is war involving M23. I'm here in South Africa as a refugee. I have been here for 15 years now," he said.

Lucky they've been here for so long. The law just changed
https://www.gov.za/news/media-statements/minister-leon-schreiber-welcomes-cabinet-approval-revised-white-paper

Now, if you say you ask for asylum in South Africa, you must prove you did not travel through another country that is safe. No one from Goma can teleport to Joburg. How many countries did you travel through to get to South Africa? No flights on SAA go from South Africa to Eastern DRC.

A lot of these refugees use the threats back home as an excuse. But really, they just want to live better in South Africa since it's better than anywhere else in Africa.

Willy2025:
We need to seriously apologise to Frederick de Clark and other apartheid leaders. We should have left things as they were when we were singing Free Mandela, End Apartheid, We ought to have left it at Free Mandela only. South Africans don't deserve our efforts.

What effort? The pressure from outside Europe mattered far more than any from africa other than the fact South Africa was straiting fighting wars in certin african countries.

The war in Angola was all so more to keep SWA, now Namibia.

panafrican:
South Africa is more corrupt than most of African countries.

No. South Africa has a lot more money so a corrupted official is stealing more but that does not mean the level of corporation it self is higher.

There are not police setting up illegal road blocks demanding cash in south Africa like in say Nigeria. South Africa is corrupt yes but not close to worst in Africa.

yinkeys:
There are many illegal nationals (Chinese, Indians, Africans etc) living in Nigeria, doing illegal businesses
Average Nigerians won’t have the energy & time to go about deleting them
Most Nigerians are on survival mode and going about their day trying to legally uplift their nuclear & extended families plus we are overwhelmed with severe local issues
That’s all we know
It appears you guys have lost empathy for melanated Africans, you guys can’t even confront the powers that be in your country that walked in centuries ago with no permission
You South Africans are simply taking out your daily frustrations on the low hanging fruits, it just comes off as cow.ardly.
There are illegal migrants all over the world and crime isn’t peculiar to just one ethnic group.
Hand over criminals to the authorities and following it up instead of committing merder.
Following up crime with crime is not the way to go.
The boundary lines are even fake and drawn by Europeans, seems you guys push a ton of politically illiterate agenda sponsored by your oppressors
Chasing Africans out will never solve your problems because most South Africans want white collar jobs only
The dudula movement should have been channeled into something positive instead of punching or sho..oting strangers when you guys can’t dare do that to Afrikaans
Even Jesus was an illegal immigrant at some point, you can’t stop it.
South African soil helped shape some Nigerians like Stanley Nwabali etc, there’s nothing you can do, you’d keep seeing Africans from all regions there
You guys don’t even know that the most sophisticated crime.s on earth are committed by colonial countries & non Africans
Instead of all the jealousy or hatred that’s displayed, why not make friends with those who legally win in life.
Pursuing other Africans just makes the true evul people laugh in the end
Should US officials delete every Mexican citizen in USA because there are lots of Mexican drug cartels operating there ?
It doesn’t make any sense, I don’t see ICE deleting illegals too. Wrong way to go about it. I’ve watched videos of South Africans deleting other Africans for no tangible reason

There is a difrince. Nigeria is a giant mess with no social net. Foreigners in Nigeria are not causing hospitals to over crowded to the point of collapse for example. This is since the hospitals are failure all ready.


South Africa should pick up the deportation and close the loop holes