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How do you claim asylum in a country when your home country is at peace?

eepeepook:
There is a demand for their services, hence their steadily increasing numbers.

The increase is because South Africa is a better place to live than the Countries they come from. This is why Countries like Botswana, Namibia, and Rwanda are not flooding here.

Not because they wanted

eepeepook:
…and then you go on to prove yourself wrong.

Hardly i just pointed out they work for themselfs or as drivers for uber and other GiG companies. They not being hired other than by other forghners. A major company won't hire an illegal worker other than in a cash payment, such as wiater. I was a waiter and it not like locals dont want to work there. Just that forgners can be exploited and wont complain since if they do they just get fired.

eepeepook:
Your opinion is not reality. Those companies will always find loopholes to absolve all guilt. Active labour makes economies grow, not sitting to wait for jobs.

Do you know what a loophole is? It when you find a way to get arround a obstical but not break a rule.
Example firgners where exploiting a loophole that said if you have a pending asylum case, you can not be deported. So they would apply be reject and then just apply again and keep applying. That's a loophole one that was closed.
There is no loophole to employ illegal immigrants. If you hire illegal immigrants you break the law and should be punished

eepeepook:
If everybody found it convenient to go to pick and pays, those corner shops would not exist.

Yes, that's why they call them convenience stores. They cost more than the Large shops, have worse products and are just worse off. They only get customers because conveniences.

eepeepook:
The law should handle the matter, not Thaba and Tebogho on the street. Whenever those two take action, everyone suffers. South Africans are labeled as xenophobic from all the news we read concerning sentiments towards foreigners.

Have i said otherwise? I dont agree with mob justice in any country but i under stand where the people come from. They see that servers get worse and crime goes up when illegal immigrants move in. They put two and two together. They see that the government is not working on it so they act. Most of the demonstrations have just been people marching, demanding action. Funny enough, locals are complaining that the police are not doing there job and the foreigners are complaining about the same thing.

eepeepook:
My God, your age and lack of real-world experience is evident in your replies.

Show an example?

Is it another 300 or the same 300 being reported again?

eepeepook:
Thus why they will always be picked by most employers. The problem is between the ears of the average black South African.

Hardly most companies dont employ foreigners.

Cash business do sure but they are breaking the law. These companies should be published to. If a trucking company hires illegal workers to drive trucks for half the price and they crash the truck then that company owner should go to jail in my opinion

Personally only business I see with non south Africa by me are corner shops and drivers. The actual companies, malls, factories, banks extra are south Africans. If all the corner shops by me vanished it would not make it harder to get any thing since the pic n psy is cheaper than the corner shop in any case.

Sure some business employ foreigners but these are experts and have work visas. Most foreigners in south Africa are illegal or are here on Visas that dont allow them to work or run business so are breaking the law.

eepeepook:
Don’t forget to chase away the Dutch while at it. Oh wait, they were the ones to create the establishments and continuously maintain them. ROFLMAO.

There not any real major movement against white people. Since as you said they pay there taxes. But it does not change that migrant in south Africa tax these systems and dont contribute to them.

The claim migrant workers are hard workers is not true. They cheaper yes and often do anything but they dont actually work harder. A forginer will happily do a job for me if I give him 500 rand even if the job should pay more. That's not working hard that letting your self be ripped off because you dont know better and or you desperate.

They not being hunted down by mobs.

Two Nigerians died and both died due to security forces.

There zero devastating consequences that Nigeria has. If Nigeria used those words then they would be laughed at. What do you think Nigeria can even do. Nationalize MTN? Everyone knows Nigeria is so corrupt it will be given to some one that will destroy it.

eepeepook:
I wonder what South Africa offers that can’t be found elsewhere. Return to your countries. Let’s see how the blacks there will survive without migrants. What happened to embassies? Those places are meant to house nationals and repatriate them for safety.

Working hospitals, working schools, stable power supply, safe drinking water in the taps, wide reaching stable internet, and a host of things. Issue is they never paid for them and the foreigners drain the rescoures.

If the foreigners leave it will relief pressure on these systems.

CSTRR:
Sooner or later, these southafricans would need to be taught a lesson.

They are mistaking the gentility of Nigerians for weakness.

What you talking about. Nigerians make up 2% of the migrant population in south Africa but they so loud, aggressive and arrogant people think they a majority.

In fact I can see that being the cause for the deaths. Nigerians being angry and picking a fight.

Yeah Nigeria drone factories are bigger and could produced more drones. İ mean this all so makes a lot of sense. They need more drones.

All so milkor is not a major drone supplier. They really new at it. Denel and CSIR have been the main supplier to the SANDF.

The milkor 380 is really new.

The Indiza uav is the main drone the SA army needs to. Done thing like the milkor 380 would be a major purches and take done time since again it a new product. The İndiza is small and can be purchesed under a easier to mange procurment channel than the milkor 380. The more some thing costs the harder it is to get the money. İn fact if my unit needed a drone and there was one for 5000 rand i personaly could run the paper work and sighn for it. A milkor 380 will need people with heavy shoulders or wearing suits to work to sighn for it.

MiddleDimension:
Please forgive him because of the likes of us.

With Nigeria's many military hardwares, which I am not impressed with, by the way, we still haven't been able to put a stop to violence in within our country.

don't worry I don't hate nigerians or think every nigerian is like him. I have met nigerians in real life and non where the steortypical gangster that people in south Africa think they all are. But it often only takes one person to ruin the reputation for an entire group of people.

kabe1:
I don't need to shit on South-Africa, your national news service has done a perfect job already!!!



The SANDF is a joke and with clowns like you in it, I can clearly see why.

I been civil and trying to talk to a embarsment of Human being. People like you are why south Africans hate nigerians by the way, you bring shame to your entier country. But i am not doing it for you. İ am doing the others who might read your stupidty

kabe1:
We have picture and video of defeated SA soldiers raising the white flag.

There's enough video evidence showing SA soldiers celebrating with their captors and taking videos with them.

The SANDF is toast.!!!!

We have pictures and video of south African solders talking to M23 with there weapons still.

What prisoner still have there weapons.

kabe1:
You're too dull!

A national news is any media that has significant representation/Presence across the federation.

With people like you in the SANDF, I see exactly why you only have 6 operational aircraft.

We not a federastion. We are a republic. The fact you got this fact wrong means your country should be ashamed of you.

News 24 is online they have reprenstastion globaly. İt does not mean they nastional. The south African nastional broad cast company is SABC.

Exnavyboy62:
I’m guessing you got this info from the list of equipments of the Nigerian army in Wikipedia. Not all vehicles you see in that list are still in active service with the Nigerian army. The Nigerian army is very secretive about its inventory and procurements so it’s difficult to keep track of which vehicles are in active service and which are not.

I would assume the Reva and Casspir MRAPs are not in active service because the last time we saw the Reva MRAPs on the field is as far back as 2015s during the Jonathan administration. Nowadays the most common vehicle on the field is the CS/VP-3 Bigfoot MRAPs and the DongFeng Mengshi CSK 131.
As for the Casspir, due to its meagre number of 5, its likely the Nigerian army bought them to test them and see if they would be good on Nigerian terrain or if they would be able to work as expected of them. If anything, both Reva and Casspir have probably been cannibalized for spare parts or used in the developments of some of our locally made armoured vehicles.

You are probably correct there but I feel it still was a waist those Rəva and casspirs could of been skipped

kabe1:
You military got comprehensively beaten, begged for a ceasefire and took tiktok videos with their victors.

Good sportsmanship I guess!!!

What a shame.


Defeated in Mozambique, defeated in the DRC yet you want to go to war with Rwanda.

Two theaters with heavy Rwandan presence.

What a joke!!

Those rebels all so never took over the SANDF base. They held there ground unlike the times nigerian solders have dressed as civlians to run away.

What defeat in mozambique. When we left there where no more rebel attacks and the local government was not working with us.

kabe1:
Doesn't change the fact you only have 6 operational aircrafts.

What a disaster of a military.

The art source i posted that actually cited where it got its info out the number at 20% out of 199 or arround 40. Still low but not the 6 out of 300 news 24 claimed. İf you going to shit on south Africa uses actual numbers.


As for the qustion asked about rawanda they have 21 aircraft total. SAAF spends far less of perctange of it GDP on defence to.

kabe1:
An aircraft includes all flying machine.

Your national news provided data you only have 6 operational flying machines, not just helicopters which is a type of aircraft, but not the only aircraft.

You don't understand the difference, yet here you are arguing.


This is exactly why the SAAF only has 6 operational.

News 24 is not our nastional news. They a online news site

The fact you dont know this means maybe you should not talk.

The closet we have to a nastional news is SABC

bidexiii:
How many deferent equipment/things we have has an army or airforce ?

The nigerian army uses 12 difrent rifles and 3 difrent calibers 5.56 nato, 7.62mm pact and 7.62mm nato

4 difrent tanks and 3 difrent calibers for the main gun 125mm, 105mm and 100mm

2 difrent tracked scout vechiels but it the same chassie so it not a big deal

5 difrent armoured scout cars.

2 difrent IFVs

Then more than 20 difrent APCs, MRAPs and other armoured vechiles.

Now a lot of these do the same job in a difrent method but in a lot of cases Nigeria has multpil vechiles doing the same job and some of them are in so low numbers as to make it strange you have them. Why does the nigerian army have 5 casspir MRAPs are those even still working are the 40 Reva MRAPs even still working. How much more does it cost in maintance VS the VP3.


İ under stand having small numbers of vechiels if they do a very specfic job like speciol forces but the REVA is a Mrap on par with all the other MRAPs

kabe1:
I'm not the one who confirmed you only have 6 operational aircrafts.

No, news 24 made the claim. They using data that is both wrong and old. İ posted the evidiance that explains it but you can just see the news 24 articel got the number of aircraft in the Saaf wrong.

kabe1:
You need to understand the difference between an aircraft and a helicopter, when you do, you can come back to me with this question.

A helcopter is a class of aircraft. There is no difrence according to the SAAF

kabe1:
Debunked by whom, their's no evidence that you have more than 6 Operational aircrafts.

I mean you have helicopters grounded in the DRC.

The SANDF is a mess!

I posted the source you all just cant read. İ know your country does not invest in schooling but I am shocked just how dumb you all are.

kabe1:
There enough video evidence showing your soldiers raising the white flag and taking pictures with their captors in admiration.

The SANDF is a joke.

The white flag is a flag of truce not surrender. İt is a sign to intent to talk or to show that you not in combat. There have been time when the attacker has flowen a white flag to aproach a defender to talk to them.


So please dont talk about things you know nothing about

AskiaHarem:
Yes I’m aware of that. I don’t expect Nigeria to order four dozen fighters in one order but a simple dozen or squadron from time to time or annually would be great. I tire of the handful of tanks or fighters here and there.

The biggest issue with Nigeria is they keeping ordering different things.

İt OK to buy one or two jets or tanks a year as long as they the same jet.

jl115:
even NPOs need to technically make a profit to be sustainable bru!!

Also the biggest companies in China are SOEs

When they subersdized by the government is there Profit even real?

I never said there SOEs where not the biggest. One of the largest south African companies is a SOE. China has large non SOE companies that make a lot of money

Example Tencent is one of the worlds largest multi media company thst focus on video games. İt is massive. İt is chinness and a publicaly traded company. So yeah China is not Marxist in any form.

kabe1:
Enough to wipe the floor with the SANDF.

I mean your defeated Soldiers were taking pictures of admiration with M23 commanders. A group Rwanda backs and you think you can withstand Rwanda in any sort of combat.

It would be a helpless shellacking.

The SANDF is a joke!!!

It clear you dont know what you talking about

kabe1:


How was South-Africa going to fight Rwanda with 6 operational aircrafts?

So you just stupid and cant read

and any case how many does rawnda have

kabe1:
It's all over your National News!!

There's no evidence South-Africa has more than 6 operational aircrafts in your air force.

News24 is reporting that the South African Air Force has no fighting capacity left with only six operable military aircraft. Over 300 more are grounded due to budget constraints, leaving the country's airspace vulnerable. Military sociologist professor Lindy Heinecken says South… pic.twitter.com/TAS12xwYYf

— Newzroom Afrika (@Newzroom405) March 29, 2025

Also, South-African soldiers defeated by M23 rebels in the DRC were seen taking photos and videos with M23.

elated South Africa soldiers, taking selfies and group photos, with a high ranking M23 commander, after both sides agreed to allow encircled SAMIDRC troops to withdraw from those positions, with their weaponry and equipment's pic.twitter.com/d9GsVX0TYB

— alex (@africaken1) March 28, 2025

What a disgrace!!!

they all site the first news article witch I have shown is wrong a I have all so shown evdiance that there are more aircraft flying. The first article that every one sites does not have evdiance to back the claim and even gets the number of aircraft in the SAAF wrong

And M23 is more of a army than the FARDC army. South African solders do not hate the M23 rebels or Rawandan Army we fought a battle with against them but it was political. The M23 commander and the SA commander have each others cell phone number.

MiddleDimension:
But their largest companies are SOEs

that does not mean any thing since there are very wealthy none SOE companies in china to.

jl115:
Where in a Marxist ideology does it state companies can't be for profit?? SOEs literally have to be profitable for a Marxist country to survive...

SOE does not need to make a Profit (look at how many are subberserdized) and the Supper wealthy companies in China are not SOEs

AskiaHarem:
Wish Nigeria would buy Aircraft in bulk like that.

Your country does not have the cash for a deal like that. Egypt gets a lot of miltary aid money from America so they have money to throw arround

kabe1:
The South African Air Force (SAAF) has all but collapsed, and has no fighting capacity left. It has only six operable military aircraft.


https://www.news24.com/news24/investigations/defenceless-only-six-of-330-sa-air-force-aircraft-in-working-order-20250324





Let me leave this here.

That articel is wrong. İ mean they have the number of aircraft in the airforce wrong so if they cant get that basic fact correct how can you trust what they said

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/setting-the-record-straight-on-saaf-aircraft-availability/


I would not trust reports on the SANDF from media who dont even know how many aircraft the Saaf has