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Foreign AffairsRe: South Africa To Charge Nigeria, Others For Deportation Of Their Nationals by andrewza: 10:42am On Jun 13
Weathered:
and your president was wailing and weeping to the oval office as the announcement to cut it was made.
He was complaining about Trump's claim about white genocide.

The lost aid money has all ready been replaced.


And again not sure why you talk about the foreign aid when Nigeria gets more money in aid from the USA still even with Trump's cuts than South Africa ever got.


Do you know about the saying he who lives in a glass house should not throw stones.
Foreign AffairsRe: South Africans Don’t Know They Are In For A Long Ride by andrewza: 10:38am On Jun 13
lawani:
If people are able to work informally in any country including my country, it is that country's fault. I wonder why you are blaming the workers for that.

Tax is what I have been campaigning for for decades. Who are you to tell me not to talk about taxes that you have no understanding how it works?

Your understanding is that a foreigner working in your country is stealing your jobs and not a co builder.

Meanwhile you can't touch the foreigners making it in your country. It is only the ones that can't afford their flight home that you harass
The ilegals are here in the country if they where not they could not be hired

But to think people are only blaming them is foolish.

Presuer is on the illegal to leave, the government to do it job and the companies to obey the law. So dont think it just aimed at the ilgals.


Nigeria does not have a tax system. It polulastion is far larger than south africa with a GDP arround the same size yet cant access any of that money since it has no tax system. It why the Nigerian Bugdet is reiliant of forgine Aid and Loans.

I am middle class and live in a upper class areas of the most pricey city in the country. The foreigners here are not in any danger and it's because you said the fact, they have made it in the country. No one in South Africa would care about the Migrants if the ones in south africa where all wealthy businessmen living in Sandton or Clifton. But most foreigners in South Africa are poor, criminals and often illegal.

How can someone be from Ghana in South Africa as an asylum seeker? How is that person working at Spur and sending money home? If you a aslym seeker, you must be from a country where there issue like war or poverty.
Foreign AffairsRe: South Africa To Charge Nigeria, Others For Deportation Of Their Nationals by andrewza: 10:24am On Jun 13
Weathered:
Africa's Chicago thinks she can call the shots. South Africa is the most vulnerable African country and can't impose anything.

I thought Trump stopped giving them aids and grants, maybe they are hungry, very hungry now.
USA Aid to south Africa was very small only 0.4 percent of the budget. It was mostly funding clinics and research concerning HIV. The lost USA Aid money has all ready been replaced.

This is a stark contrast to Nigeria where the budget is heavily reliant on foreign Aid and Loans
Foreign AffairsRe: South Africans Don’t Know They Are In For A Long Ride by andrewza: 10:08am On Jun 13
lawani:
If people are working in your country and you can't tax them, that is your fault then even if you don't tax them, their consumption still adds to your GDP and if you have no GDP you don't have anything to tax
Dont talk about tax and no tax when your country cant tax any one.

Illegal people are paid under the counter by companies. That's why they love foreigners. They pay them half the pay and it not taxed.

They then send that money home where it added to that countries consumption
Foreign AffairsRe: South Africans Don’t Know They Are In For A Long Ride by andrewza: 10:05am On Jun 13
panafrican:
Jacob Zuma was not a foreigner, but his corrupt administration was effectively bought by a single Indian family. Together, they drained the economy of your "contry."
Worse still, while the economy was plunging into an abyss, Zuma spent his time marrying three or four wives instead of seeking genuine solutions to rescue the nation. All of his wives were supported by impoverished taxpayers.
These women traveled first class or flew around the world in government planes, staying in luxury hotels and feasting at the expense of South Africans. Within the country, these wives received premium healthcare, housing, and government vehicles, all funded by citizens who could not even make $10 a day. Now, his daughter is out in the streets, directing the anger of starving people toward Nigerians, Zimbabweans, Ghanaians, Ugandans, and Mozambicans, just to name a few. Where was she 10 or 15 years ago when her father was cutting the roots of a crumbling economy? She is an absolute disgrace.
So because there a corrupt criminal south African that permission for foreigners to be criminal and corrupt?

Yes and Zuma's was in the end impeached, removed from government and found guilty by a court. So not sure why you bring him up like I should respect him. Zuma, ANC and EFF are not respected by me.

So to think zuma will sway me is silly. He is criminal that should be in jail.
Foreign AffairsRe: South Africans Don’t Know They Are In For A Long Ride by andrewza: 9:59am On Jun 13
lawani:
If a law abiding immigrant is a drain on your economy, that is your fault. All economic activities are equal if the economy is well managed. Then no matter how you maneuver, the fact still remains that if one person leaves your country, what they consume will leave your GDP.
That the point. They illegally in the county or working illegally in the country.

They not contributing to taxes but benefit from the national budget.
Foreign AffairsRe: South Africans Don’t Know They Are In For A Long Ride by andrewza: 4:30am On Jun 13
lawani:
If everyone leaves your country, the GDP would be zero. If many people leave, then the GDP will drop and government revenue which is gotten from the GDP will drop too. You can't take everybody though but when you drive people out, be aware of what you are asking for
Illegal Foreigners are a drain on the nastion. They weaken the GDP not strengthen it..

They dont had to the government budget they drain it.


Dont act like Spaza shops and hairdressers are a big deal.

Mining, industry, banking, tele communication, farming are the source of how GDP not the small business migrants run.


There are not major Nigerian companies here there some one running a car wash.
Foreign AffairsRe: South Africans Don’t Know They Are In For A Long Ride by andrewza: 4:21am On Jun 13
Omoawoke:
It seems you still live in delusions to think majority of Nigerians want to live in your country

Pls validate this statistics and challenge me

1. Less than 80k Nigerians are in your country…

2. Out of the black immigrants in your country, less than 3% are Nigerians

3. The population of Nigeria is over 200 million , we have 80k at max in your country… so it means less than 0.05% of Nigerians care about living in South Africa

This means, we have over 99% of Nigerians who have never had anything to do with your country…

So based on this facts above, what’s the probability that I would know someone that live in South Africa?

None of my family members both extended and the entire family at large and I have a very large family… not a single one has lived in South Africa or have plans of living there

I don’t have friends there…

I have only known 2 people in my entire life living in your country… old time colleagues and they are there legally

Among the Nigerians that recently came back.. it’s hard to meet anyone that knows anyone’s that was among them because they are less than 1k people which is almost negligible compared to our total population in Nigeria .. so this is simple fact, maths and logic
You guys really live in delusions and think you are way more important and relevant than you are

Hello sir, I don’t care about country and I would never care… i only enjoy hating you guys because you guys are an embarrassment to the entire black community
Did I say majority want to be here.

Firstly 30 thousand is the legally known people. Of the last group returned to Nigeria only 5 where legal. We dont know how many are here illegally.


That's good please tell any that decide to leave Nigeria not to run away from Nigeria.
Foreign AffairsRe: The Grand Pan-African Revolutionist Party V. That Racist Afrophobic S. Africa by andrewza: 11:00pm On Jun 12
panafrican:
Racist and Afrophobic Black Africans are saying Black people represente 81% of South Africa's population.
Well, do those 81% of Black generate 81% of South Africa's GDP or create 81% of the jobs ? Absolutely not.
So let's say this:
The Grand Pan-African Revolutionist Party calls on the racist and Afrophobic South African government to protect the rights and dignity of all racial and ethnic minorities, including the white minority, in all aspects of daily life. Failure to comply with these requirements will result in further actions, to be determined at the discretion of the revolutionists.
What are you talking about.

The government does protect all people in fact white urban areas are some of the safest areas in Africa. So not sure what you talking about.
Foreign AffairsRe: South Africans Don’t Know They Are In For A Long Ride by andrewza: 10:36pm On Jun 12
Omoawoke:
Lazzzzzy xenophobes


Looting peoples shop

No one is stealing your jobs, you are the ones stealing peoples hard work and sweats by looting their businesses.


And who gave you the idea we really care about your country? I’ve never ever considered ever making South Africa my home and would never ever do it…

And that goes for a very large percentage of the rest of Africans
If they go back to Nigeria there shops wont be looted? Though seeing how poor the average Nigerian person is they wont have a shop.

No foreigners are stealing jobs. They work for under minimum wage

That nice happy you not here. Please tell your friends to stay in Nigeria

Really then why there so many foreigners here.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Is Going To Save South Africa On X by andrewza: 2:29pm On Jun 12
orisa37:
WHO IS RAMANPHOSA? WHAT TRIBE IS HE ORIGINALLY IN SOUTH AFRICA? WHAT TRIBE IS MRS. RAMANPHOSA FROM?
HOW AND WHEN DID SOUTH AFRICA JOIN BRICS WITHOUT AU KNOWLEDGE?
Why do you care so much about Tribes?

South Africa has the largest industrial base in Africa, largest stock market busy ports and great banking. That why it joined BRICS


What does the AU have to do about South Africa joining BRICS. It not like thev AU needs to be told any thing.
Foreign AffairsRe: South Africans Don’t Know They Are In For A Long Ride by andrewza: 2:21pm On Jun 12
Omoawoke:
Black South Africans…

You guys are in deeep shittt

How can the entire African continent come together to collectively hate you..?
The kind of pain and misery coming for this people would be worse than what they experienced in apartheid and Sudan..
Black South Africans are still being dominated by whites and most of them suffering, now they don’t even have the support of their so called African brothers anymore…
You can’t survive a collective hate…
Once these black South Africans become isolated, then they would be easy prey in the hands of racism and brutality awaiting them..
It’s just like how lions hunt isolated animals in the wide..
Once isolated, you become easy target and that’s what is coming for black South Africans

The whites are watching and realizing they are being hated… some sadistic racists can’t wait to pound black South Africans back to Stone Age..
And yes, we Nigerians and the rest of Africa would watch and enjoy
Bruh what drugs you on. Only improvements can come from African immigrants going back home.
CrimeRe: South African Man Attempts To Lure An 11-Year-Old Nigerian Girl into His Room by andrewza: 10:54am On Jun 11
enemachris:
Its a skit. She later came back to say it was skit and apologized because the internet wasn't finding it funny. Just go to her page and find out.
Yeah those kind of jokes leaders to people getting In to real trouble
Foreign AffairsRe: Arrest Warrant For Ngobese-zuma And All Xenophobic South African Leaders. by andrewza: 9:15am On Jun 11
udemzyudex:
Who be this one? Do you have comprehension problem?
Read his post again.
Do you have a logic problem.

Point to a law they broke

Explain how if any African country issued a arrest warrant it would do any thing.

Even if a law was broken they broke it was done in south Africa and that's the sees the arrest warrant must be issued
CrimeRe: South African Man Attempts To Lure An 11-Year-Old Nigerian Girl into His Room by andrewza: 9:44pm On Jun 10
Segzy19:
Yeah! I needed to pull you by the cloth which is why I mentioned your name in my comment.

When it comes to crimes committed by foreigners in South Africa, just know that it's usually a joint venture between the foreigners and the locals...
Not all ways and does not change the fact per capita forghiners do more crimes
CrimeRe: South African Man Attempts To Lure An 11-Year-Old Nigerian Girl into His Room by andrewza: 9:41pm On Jun 10
Airlord2030:
same here angry
HIV capital grin grin grin
Sad fact more people are born in Nigeria with HIV than in South Africa. Strong posbilty Nigeria does not know there HIV numbers
CrimeRe: South African Man Attempts To Lure An 11-Year-Old Nigerian Girl into His Room by andrewza: 6:15pm On Jun 10
themanderon:
I won't trust the cops at this moment. Did I not see some of them giving cover to these beasts attacking foreigners?
They might even expose the family to xenophobic attacks. I don't trust them.
Any protest march will have cops with them
CrimeRe: South African Man Attempts To Lure An 11-Year-Old Nigerian Girl into His Room by andrewza: 6:05pm On Jun 10
themanderon:
Now is not a good time to be a foreigner in south Africa.
If you legal the cops wont do anything
CrimeRe: South African Man Attempts To Lure An 11-Year-Old Nigerian Girl into His Room by andrewza: 5:32pm On Jun 10
kiddaz:
A South African 🇿🇦 man has reportedly admitted to repeatedly h@rass!ng an 11-year-old Nigerian girl, forcing her mother to confront him and issue a strong warning.

According to the mother, whenever young Zite goes out to dispose of the trash, their South African neighbour calls out to her and attempts to lur€ her into his apartment.

The mother revealed that this d!sturbing behaviour has been going on for some time.

Omor.. the most annoying thing is the guy still claiming he has the right to do anything since he's South African. Thank God no be my child na me for start the war walai and the guy would have been beneath the earth's surface by now undecided


Why she just crying on social media and not calling the cops?
CrimeRe: South African Man Attempts To Lure An 11-Year-Old Nigerian Girl into His Room by andrewza: 5:02pm On Jun 10
Segzy19:
Where's that Andrewza guy... He won't see this to comment....

I hope people can see how stupid these south African guys can be.... I loved with them... They are just too full of themselves, yet very ignorant at it....

Spits on them!
So because you have one account, it know every one.

i will remind you my issue was that most brothels were run bY Nigerians, then South Africans followed by a number of other countries. I never said only Nigerians do sex crimes just they do a lot more.

I never hid the fact there are crimnal south africans. I have been robed twice and had a attmpted robery one all by south africans. My issue was never that South Africans where peaceful and perfect society.

It does not change there fact that as a pertange of the populastion Nigerians in south africa do more crime than the locals.
Foreign AffairsRe: White South Africans Chased Black S. African From Cape Town by andrewza: 1:49pm On Jun 10
panafrican:
Yeah, so many wannabe whitey Niggas out there in " ZaWoof Africa "
No black south african would prented to be white.
Foreign AffairsRe: Arrest Warrant For Ngobese-zuma And All Xenophobic South African Leaders. by andrewza: 1:48pm On Jun 10
panafrican:
That woman will be arrested by an African government, one day or another, you all keep that in mind.
A daughter of a crooked failed president stealing the show on national stage instead of hiding in shame
after her father ruined a country.
Her father Jacob Zuma was busy getting married with three or four wives , and taking bribes
for an Indian businessman instead running the country's daily business that 's what Ngobese-Zuma should
talk about.
Ok how will they arrest her?
Foreign AffairsRe: White South Africans Chased Black S. African From Cape Town by andrewza: 2:17pm On Jun 09
panafrican:
Nope , you all are mostly from :
Limpopo: The northernmost province of South Africa, bordering Zimbabwe and Botswana.

North West: Located in the north-central part of the country, bordering Botswana.

KwaZulu-Natal: Located on the eastern coast, northeast of the Eastern Cape.

Go Back home !
Dude I am a white south african
Foreign AffairsRe: Xenophobia: Nigeria Mulls Diplomatic Measures Against South Africa. by andrewza: 2:14pm On Jun 09
[quote author=zoedew post=139663570][/quote]Show me something that Nigeria actually did
Foreign AffairsRe: Xenophobia: Nigeria Mulls Diplomatic Measures Against South Africa. by andrewza: 2:11pm On Jun 09
brain54:
If you don't know the answer to that question by now then I don't think it's worth engaging you...


You can't just wake up early in the morning and say what you like.


The Internet is there for everyone. If you are wise you would educate yourself and not make weird comments in public.


Even south Africans themselves have never come out to say Nigeria was not helpful to them during apartied. No matter how badly behaved they are or act they have never disputed that fact.


Educate yourself!
I have educated my self it why I call Nigerians outbox this all the time. You guys did nothing of relevance. If there was no Nigeria apartheid would still of ended 1992 by a vote
Foreign AffairsRe: Xenophobia: Nigeria Mulls Diplomatic Measures Against South Africa. by andrewza: 2:09pm On Jun 09
zoedew:
Really! Ignorance is indeed a deadly disease while knowledge is power!!! Have you ever heard of Gen. Olusegun Obasanjo the Nigerian Head of State who Nationalised the British Company (BP British Petroleum Company). It was the large straw that broke the back of apartheid.
Dont inflate your ego that was 79 and apartheid was still strong then. And for a few years after that. That only hurt BP not south Africa
Foreign AffairsRe: Arrest Warrant For Ngobese-zuma And All Xenophobic South African Leaders. by andrewza: 12:22pm On Jun 09
panafrican:
You are the only one who wants to make people believe that the violence against migrants started in 2026 in South Africa .
Keep i mind this is an ongoing hatred against fueled by bigots like that ugly woman Zuma. Her perverted and corrupt father drained the
country down but instead of hiding in shame , she is parading in the streets directing the anger at foreigner. She will be arrested , believe me. It is NOT over.

Read your crimes here. This is just a short list.

Major Waves and Incidents (2010–2025):

2015 Durban/Johannesburg Wave (esp. April): At least 7 killed (including foreigners from Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, etc.), thousands displaced, widespread looting/burning of foreign-owned shops. Notable: Brutal stabbing murder of Mozambican Emmanuel Sithole in Alexandra Township on April 18, captured in graphic photos by journalist James Oatway (he was beaten with a wrench and stabbed in the heart).

2022 Diepsloot Attacks (April): Zimbabwean Elvis Nyathi beaten and burned alive by a vigilante mob (linked to Operation Dudula tensions) after failing to produce ID during door-to-door checks. Part of unrest with multiple deaths; highlighted vigilantism.

September 2019 Johannesburg Attacks: At least 12 killed (per police), hundreds of businesses looted/destroyed, mainly targeting Nigerians and other Africans. Sparked by rumors of drug dealing/crime; led to Nigerian repatriation efforts.

2015 Soweto/Gauteng Looting and Violence (January onward) : Foreign shops looted/burned; contributed to the broader deadly wave. Specific killings included stabbings and mob attacks.

Ongoing Somali Shop Attacks (e.g., 2010s incidents): Multiple cases of Somali traders killed, stoned, or shops attacked (e.g., 2013 stoning of Abdi Nasir Mahmoud Good; 2014 stoning death). Somalis frequently targeted in townships.

2020–2022 Operation Dudula-related Violence: Vigilante campaigns led to assaults, evictions, shop attacks in Soweto, Diepsloot, etc. Included beatings and threats; contributed to climate of fear and specific deaths like Nyathi's.

Brutal Killings (e.g., 2013): Mozambican Mido Macia dragged behind a police van (2013, though police involvement); various mob stabbings/beatings of Zimbabweans/Nigerians.

2017–2018 Spikes: Reports of Nigerians and others killed weekly in some periods; shop lootings and assaults in multiple townships.

Cape Flats/Eastern Cape Incidents (post-2010 echoes): Earlier patterns (e.g., 2000s burnings/shootings) continued sporadically with shop attacks and murders.

2024–2025 Incidents: Fewer large-scale deaths reported than prior peaks, but dozens of discrimination/violence cases per Xenowatch, with displacements and shop attacks amid political rhetoric. Recent 2026 tensions echo this pattern.

The deadliest single wave in the broader period remains 2008 : ~62 killed, including Ernesto Nhamuave burned alive in Ramaphosa settlement—iconic horrific images), which set the pattern for later violence


Sources/Context:
DW timeline, Human Rights Watch, Xenowatch reports, Reuters, BBC, Guardian photo essays, SA History.org. dw.com +3

Total deaths from xenophobic violence since 1994 exceed hundreds per monitors, with massive property loss.
gjia.georgetown.edu
For the most current or exhaustive data, check Xenowatch.ac.za. These events represent a serious ongoing human rights issu
Did in say no one died.

Link those deaths to the words of the anti immigrant movement. Have any of them said kill all foreigners.you can be against illegal immigrants and all so against murder.
Foreign AffairsRe: Xenophobia: Nigeria Mulls Diplomatic Measures Against South Africa. by andrewza: 12:19pm On Jun 09
brain54:
The same white countries of Europe that initially tagged Mandela a terrorist...


You obviously don't know what you are saying. And I've come to understand and learn that it's not everyone or everything a wise person argues with.

If you say Nigeria played no role in s/a s apartied history you are right.


But Nigeria was one of the first destinations Mandela himself visited to appreciate for efforts towards freedom from apartied.


If you like you can attempt to turn history on its head... but the truth and the records are there for those that genuinely want to know and learn from history!
Yes those same white countries did more to end apartheid with economic and social isolation.


I asked for some thing Nigeria actually did to help end apartheid. Some tangible act that led to white people in 1992 to vote for the end of apartheid.
Foreign AffairsRe: Xenophobia: Nigeria Mulls Diplomatic Measures Against South Africa. by andrewza: 11:54am On Jun 09
brain54:
Who told you Nigeria did nothing or what exactly are you saying...?


Nigeria played perhaps the biggest role in helping s/a Free from apartied.


Stop coming to public space to say things you know nothing about!
Name one thing Nigeria did. South Africa gave more help to Bifar than Nigeria did to ending apartheid.

Where any Nigerians fighting the SADF or SAPS

The white counties of Europe did more than Nigeria. African countries have a over inflated mentality of what they did.

Apartheid ended in 1992 when white South Africans voted to end it since they where upset they where being isolated. The fact they could not play in the rugby world cup mattered far more than any thing Nigeria did.
Foreign AffairsRe: Xenophobia: Nigeria Mulls Diplomatic Measures Against South Africa. by andrewza: 11:33am On Jun 09
zoedew:
South-Africa has, largely, been ungrateful to the African Countries that stood with South-Africa to free her from the wicked and racist Apartheid Regime. Is this fair? Now Ramaphosa denies the reality of Xenophobic attacks against other Africans in South-Africa by BLACK SOUTH-AFRICANS and is trying to change the narrative to say it is all about migration issues! Quite annoying to say the least. Meanwhile take a listen to Thabo Mbeki in the attached video and you will be amazed at the benevolence South-Africa has received overtime from other Black African nations. In return South-Africa has paid us back with evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXa_ZZtWj9I?si=lYen6xW4zPoE2ZNM
African countries helped the ANC only a few like Angola actually died to help end apartheid. Why should any one care about the nothing Nigeria did.
Foreign AffairsRe: Arrest Warrant For Ngobese-zuma And All Xenophobic South African Leaders. by andrewza: 11:24am On Jun 09
panafrican:
Well, a responsible head of state would act like this:
'My fellow citizens came to your country. You called on crowds to attack them. Following your directives, your people butchered, tortured, and traumatized them. Some were beaten in the streets, and their shops were burned down or ransacked. Because of this, I am issuing a warrant for your arrest. Wherever you travel, I will call on the host country to detain you and hand you over to my country, for you are a criminal. Furthermore, I will sign an extradition agreement with any country willing to arrest you. ;
Who was killed because of them. Non of the leaders demanded any one be killed only that illegals must leave.

So again why would anybof them care if there was a arrest warrant for them in Ghana.

What crime are they guilty of. The actual crime? They have only demanded that the law be upheld.

And again they have not committed any crime in Ghana or any other country.

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