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andrewbaba44:
Ronaldo is a disgraceful attention seeker ,guy man isn’t happy he will always be under Messi shadow

He should thank Florentino Perez and Madrid for making him compete with the goat

In his defence he was responding to the question put at him. He was asked why he went to Saudi rather than the USA.

kendrick93:
Taking Grealish over prime Hazard is a wild take.
You can't be serious..

Some opinions are outright laughable

What was Hazard going to add to City that was missing and would have made a difference? Let us start from there.

airmark:
We are talking about honours at the two most glamorous football competitions, you are listing Young player award. Sterling spent how many years in Epl to garner these your penurious achievements

Honors at the 2 most glamorous competitions? I assume you mean Golden Ball of the World Cup and the Best Player of the UEFA CL? Also, you don't need to be in the EPL long enough to win a Young Player Award because there is a time frame within which one can win it. Pulisic did not win it. Raheem did.

You asked this ludicrous question, because you are not a Chelsea fan. Will pardon you.

I was waiting for your appeal to being a Chelsea fan. You know, the one that beclouds you from ignoring output as a metric for comparing 2 players. LOL.

You should read what you are typing first.

pkasso:
Grealish did OK last season but to say he met expectations is ludicrous. You mean City paid 100m for shakushaku and vibes? LOL.

What are the expectations? What was City missing that Grealish was to provide?

Remember, City never had issues with scoring or creating goals. It was always about balance. Grealish provided it. How you want to quantify it is not your prerogative- it is City's to do.

Can Grealish score and assist more? Of course and that should be on his own personal ambitions. But as per his RnRs, he met it. He met the expectations set for him. The proof is the fact that he became virtually untouchable as far as team sheets were concerned.

By the way, everyone knew that his market value was £60M but he had a £100M release clause which City preferred to trigger than haggle prices with Villa who would have Daniel Levied us. To that end, he was worth the £100M.

In fact, I'll take Grealish's role for City over prime Hazard or Kvara (and definitely over Kingsley) who may outperform him in the metrics everyone likes but would have watched Salah and numerous other wingers skin the LB for City on the other end. Grealish wouldn't.

airmark:
Despite playing for a devouring Man City, where's Sterling's Ucl winner's medal? Where is his World cup MOTM awards, despite playing for the 3 LIONS?

Immediately Sterling left Man city, they won the elusive Ucl. Immediately he joined Chelsea we finished in our worst position on the league table, in recent times. Nobody wants to buy him from us, even the Saudis see him as a plague that must be avoided.

You keep forgetting that this is a Sterling vs Pulisic argument. I could just as easily ask for Pulisic's team of the year and PFA Young Player of the year awards or his trophy hall that compares to Raheem's. You know he won't measure up.

The greatest indictment on Pulisic is that Raheem you are ragging on still outperformed him playing for the same bad Chelsea. What is the excuse now?

Spy360:
As my lord pleases...

(2) A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election-

(a) he has the highest number of votes cast at the election;

and

(b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

You're reading alot into the emotionalism that surrounds Peter Obi's candidacy than the actual merits of it. The spirit of the law rather than the letter is how the law is interpreted.

The simple interpretation of the law is,

The winner should have the highest total number of votes cast. . .

AND

He/She should have garnered at least 25% of the votes in 2/3rds of the states of the federation (full stop)

Remember that the FCT being Abuja was not a reality until 1991 yet this law had existed from 1979. That should tell you;

1. It is not particular to Abuja. The Abuja part was added when the constitution was amended. It most probably was Lagos before and you dare not claim that the candidate that did not obtain 25% in Lagos but had the highest total number of votes whilst achieving at least 25% of votes cast in 2/3rd majority of the states in Nigeria did not win the election.

2. It was created for federal character purposes meaning one state does not take precedence over another. 1979 constitution was trying to fix the problems created by the first republic constitution.

With that in mind, if the law had not included the (and FCT part) it would have implied that one need not hold elections in the FCT thus disenfranchising the denizens of Abuja. On other hand, If it had mentioned 37 states, then any other information about Nigeria stating that she constituted of 36 states would have been factually wrong.

The law needed her to be a vote-able state for elections sake and yet preserve her integrity as the federal capital at the same time.

Kibbs:
He was either on loan at Barcelona or playing in the WNBA 😂😂😹🤣🤣🤣

The matter tire me.

airmark:
Sterling should first win the Ucl he was thrown away by Fraudiola, for being useless in.

When Pulisic met Sterling at the world cup, we all saw who outperformed each other. In fact, Sterling was so useless in the match, he was bundled out.

Should Pulisic not win up to one half of Sterling's individual awards first to justify this feeble basis of comparison? Should he not win half as many team trophies like Sterling to even be worthy of this comparison?

raumdeuter:
Tuchel on Mané: "Sadio fell short of the expectations last season. The competitive situation is extremely high for him. We have a constellation that makes it very difficult for Sadio. The player knows that too. I know his opinion, he knows my opinion and that of the club."

He has a contract and wants to stay. And we respect that. But it's only the first day of training and a lot of things can happen in football."

Pkasso, did Manè not amass 16 G/A for Bayern last season? Tuchel is here saying Mané did not meet the expectations Bayern had before acquiring him because that is how it works in the real world. You succeed or fail based on the expectations placed on you by your employer.

I am using this opportunity to reply your post on Grealish and where you misconstrued my stance. Grealish did not need 16G/A to meet the expectations Pep and by extension City levied on him because that is not what was expected of him. You don't need to like it or agree with it. You may not even rate it highly but his employer's assessment of him matters more.

airmark:
What's the most glamorous trophy a player in Europe should win for his club and did your Sterling win it for Liverpool, Man city or Chelsea? In there is what puts an end to your huffing and puffing about the Jamaican hypejob, thrown away by Fraudiola.

Sterling is not the best player that ever was so pointing out some flaws about him means nothing. He is being compared to Pulisic so you should make a comparative analysis.

The result: Sterling is significantly better than Pulisic at everything. End of story.

Wisdom will ask if the time KD was winning his scoring titles, Lebron was playing in another league?

Una never repent from this una ebola logic.

raumdeuter:
Exactly GEJ cannot exonerate himself from BokoHaram like his NSA said

Andrew Azazi, a friend of Jonathan, a former GOC, COAS, CDS and NSA. A PDP card-carrying member made an accusation against his own party. GEJ fired him - his friend - rather than investigate what he was saying.

Remember, Andrew accused his party of sponsoring BH. He did not accuse GEJ. Yet GEJ fired him.

I know who let BH fester. Anybody who does not know will never know.

Itsrm:
Somewhere at the back of his mind, he knows these players are mid. He's not just one to ever admit he was wrong about a player

He never admits to being wrong, period.

WhoDeyHause:
Gundogan gone, Mahrez going and silva about to follow.
Did somebody just say apari's downfall? 😋.

If Pep loses 3 players he won't win according to you people yet his squad is supposed to be overwhelmingly better than all the other EPL squads? LOL

Unlimited22:
But it's cool to constantly rag on Sterling.

A walking contradiction I tell you.

airmark:
Sterling should win this first, as Pulisic didn't collect 325k before he helped us to win it.

Pulisic will not achieve one-half of what Sterling has achieved in soccer. Pulisic is not half the player Sterling is. Sterling before City was already better than any version of Pulisic. Die this your dead agenda.

Shegzdave:
Bros , you dey run from LL wey Guardiola don deliver to you through Qatar airways?

Grab him by the blockus!

popizaino:
Na Arsenal kukuma caused this rubbish,if they had won the league nobody will be calling this city team in any Goat 🐐 conversation. The test this city team met on their way to treble were not stiff enough for me.

Most bitter rivals in the league were struggling, the likes of Chelsea,Liverpool,man united.

Bayern Munich just sacked their manager.

Real madrid players were difficult to inspire,they’ve won it all and most key players were literally on their last leg.

They met an unlikely opponent in the finals who had no business been there in the first place.

I wish you can read the irony.

You know City have won the league in 5 out of the last 6 seasons right? Was it because all the big teams underperformed? Why is that underperformance consistently avoiding City but not others?

popizaino:
Good thing they played well and lost on away goal rule but i still recognize their strength and so do analyst.

One said “by his third season at Bayern Munich pep guardiola already built a machine ready to conquer the world “ and you know what they say about German machine?

So the team that lost? Gotcha.

popizaino:
Ancelotti before last season defeated pep guardiola home and away in the UCL semifinals the only time they met in competition in 2013/2014 season.


He repeated the same last season,only that this time around it was only away and did it in the most dramatic fashion. Now i am putting it to you,was it out of place if i rated Ancelotti over pep guardiola given this instances?


2. The Klopp that has been a torn in the flesh of pep guardiola both in the league and UCL is who Ancelotti defeated in other to win the UCL. Is it also out of place to have rated Ancelotti above pep guardiola from this reason because honestly i don’t understand what your question to mean?



Lastly,going forward if you notice me saying anything about pep guardiola pls ignore me. You did not ask me to support pep guardiola right from his first match as Barcelona coach till day,so if today i decided to speak ill about anything concerning him,allow me.

I think you should ask questions when unsure and be certain you were attacked before you come out daggers drawn.

I have a rebuttal for everything you have above but not the time or mood for it.

popizaino:
What is the bolded suppose to mean? You better allow the sleeping 🛌 dog 🐕 lie jeje. You are not people and this people will not engage because i always have my facts to back my claims up. Who people engage help? Is it their engagement that would make me fulfil in life?


If i was emotional I will not be a Chelsea fan singing the praises of pep guardiola and anything that concerns him. If i was anything emotional i will not be here to claim iniesta even with his poverty stats is better than my own club legend frank Lampard. If i was emotional i will not be here repping SAF always and calling out Conte and Mourinho who have won multiple trophies for my club. Just because i refuse to be stupid to follow the bandwagon of this current city team does not make me emotional. It is not by force to engage me.

This man city isn’t better than pep guardiola Bayern Munich that lost to Atletico Madrid team,i have said my own.

By the way,if you think the bolded is the reason why i crowned Ancelotti the best then i am sorry you are totally wrong.

Nah, I mean you will give emotional arguments against this City team not that you are always emotional.

Pep Guardiola Bayern team that lost? Would they have diminished in your estimation if they played poorly but won on the day and qualified?

I hope you see the point.

Ibime:
He was definition on track to defeat Barcas winning total of 91 points in 2016 by a good margin if he could garner 53 points in 20 matches. He already has a points record per game that season that will put him on course for la Liga all time record, he can't do more than that.

If he did not draw 2 games and lose 1 he would have won the league and received all the accolades like he did for beating ATM on penalties in the UCL final.

He cannot have it both ways.

Ibime:
Thanks for confirming his work

For the record, Zidane played 20 league games in 2015/16, winning 17, drawing 2 and losing just 1. That's 53 points in 20 games.

That would equate to a 101 point season over 38 games, a LaLiga ALL-TIME record, and ten points ahead of Barcas 91 points.

That buttresses the point that 2016 league loss is not part of his records.

Zidane coached the 2016/2017 and 2017/18 complete seasons and did not win the league with beyond 93 points which was just 3 points better than when he coached from January. This shows that garnering 101 points was never on the cards for him and proves that he lost 2 of the 3 la liga titles he fought for at the time.

He coached in the CDR same time span that he inherited RM in 2016 and never won it once till he resigned. Proving he went 0/3 within the same time.

All fax no printers.

popizaino:
Enough of this hype abeg,city 2023 shouldn’t be in any of this conversation.

There is a reason people are hesitant to engage you on this topic. It is because your arguments will be more emotional than factual. There is no world that City 2023 won't be treated as one of the GOAT teams. They tick all the boxes more so than the Bayern team you keep bringing up.

Are you not the one who crowned Ancelotti the best for winning the UCL less convincingly than this same City you now claim are not that good?

ThierryJay:
Being clever by half right? Major trophies for the season are the UCL, the league and the local cup. Are you saying the FA cup/CDR is not a major trophy or isnt that what Madrid was doing alariwo bus parade for all over the city last month?

Using your logic, in 3 years, Guardiola won 2 UCL, 3 la Liga and 2 CDR which is 7/9 or 78% key trophy wins.

In 3 years, Zizou won 3 UCL and 1 la liga and Zero CDR equating to 4/9 or 44% key trophy wins.

Even if we allocate a weight of 2 league titles as equal to Zizou's extra single UCL (which is very generous by the way), Zizou will still be at 5/9 or 5/8 which is still way below Pep's 78% rate.

The difference could not be clearer. No matter which way you spin it, Guardiola's Barca had a more successful spell than Zidane's pound for pound. He also added the ingenuity and luxury of providing the most beautiful mesmeric football style ever seen to go along with it. Talk about winning with class. Achieving both ain't for all and sundry.

If RM had won the league in 2015-16 it would have counted for Zidane just like the UCL. Imagine someone fibbing that RM that finished 1 point behind Barca were never in contention for that same league by January.

For context Barca had 91 points to RMs 90 yet some how the fact that Zidane did not win the league should not count against him. LOL

ThierryJay:
In 4 years, the major trophies won by Pep were:

2 UCLs
3 La liga
3 Copa del Rey

In the same span, Zizou won 3 UCLs, 1 la liga and 0 CDR - a meagre half of Pep's key trophies haul.

Pep's team was obviously more successful overall. If you see that as incoherent, then the delusions are completely yours.

The key indicator to which team was better regarded is that Barca's miss out on 2010 UCL and a three peat was looked at as an anomaly/upset while Madrid's three peat was mostly a surprise for many.

And as for the controversy crowd, 1 of Inter's 3 goals in their 3-1 win of Barcelona was offside. Then Bojan Krkic scored a neat goal that would have made the 2nd leg 2-0 with Barca going through and most likely beating Bayern FC in the final.

The 1-0 loss to RM in the CDL also came with controversy as Pedro had scored first during regular time what was deemed offside. Replays would show he was not. That could have meant that team won 2 sextuples as they won the other 5 trophies on offer.

Melvyn11:
Na you bring the maths baba. Show us how Zidane was eligible for trophies he didn't compete in.

Zidane's RM was eligible for (parenthesis is what was won):

1. La Liga 2015-2018 (1)
2. CDL 2015-2018 (0)
3. UCL 2015-2018 (3)
4. CWC 2015-2018 (3)
5. Spanish Super Cup 2015-2018 (1)
6. UEFA super cup 2015-2018 (2)

Pep's Barca

1. La Liga 2008-2012 (3)
2. CDL 2008-2012 (2)
3. UCL 2008-2012 (2)
4. CWC 2008-2012 (2)
5. Spanish Super Cup 2008-2012 (3)
6. UEFA super cup 2008-2012 (2)

Melvyn11:
Stop typing lies baba.

You can list them out.

andrewbaba44:
If you sabi play ball doninate all the competition wey you take part ,no be say you go Play 3 competition and flop for 2

Madrid in 2 million years of existence have won zero treble

Madrid should go and win treble before we can talk

Mind you after winning treble you still have a sextuple,but for now make una go win treble

There were 19 possible trophies on offer between 2008-2012 and Barca won 14 of those. Zidane's RM won 9 out of 19 in the 4 seasons between 2015-2019. Winning 3 UCLs on the trot, though remarkable cannot mask that.

Kilishihunter:
It's just agenda nothing else. If pep didn't dominate outside Barça or several Barça players didn't form a dynasty alongside players from other clubs to form an international dynasty by winning three consecutive international titles in a row with Messi going on to play in a world cup final and later win late in his career this argument might have been redundant, It's okay to have another club team as your greatest of all time as your pick as it's subjective but I believe saying the RM three peat team is greater than Pep's 08-12 side is primetime comedy

It is a pure joke. Nobody looks at that RM team as a reference for anything.

There was nothing definitive about their style, how they won or how momentous they were. They just won and deserve kudos for it but anything other than that is crapology.

People don't understand what it means to be generational. What it means to define an era of football never seen before or a consistency many had claimed was chimerical: a figment of one's imagination. Something that could never happen. That was Barca circa 2008-2012.

Kilishihunter:
I find it disgusting when Barça under pep was questioned for refereee decisions but let things slide when referee discrepancies are raised about the real Madrid three peat side. Na Bayern even suffer am pass but na Barça oga pkasso dey drag

Prisoners-of-the-moment analysis that's why. Last season, Liverpool dominated RM with Courtois being man of the match. RM scored 1 goal against the run of play but RM was being praised, Ancelotti was being extolled and the general narrative was that RM deserved to win. Even though PSG destroyed them, as did Chelsea and City just before the finals.

On the other hand, Inter Milan did nothing of note all game until City deservedly scored and should have been 2 goals up if Foden finished his dinner. But what I have been reading here is how Inter could have won and "all the many chances" they created. 1 standard is used to praise RM and another standard is used for other teams.

The UCL is the most prestigious club competition but it is not the most difficult to win and is definitely not representative of determining the best club in Europe when treated in isolation. You cannot 3-peat the UCL, sparsely win anything else but then be the best. That is just nonsense.

And as for those going on about UEFA and fraud, it may to surprise you to find out that almost every RM UCL win was marred with a refereeing mistake that helped the team more so than Barcelona were ever helped. The Bayern vs RM double headed tie of few years ago is a great example.

I know some people are blind to facts but at this point it bears repeating that Henry was pulled down twice in the first leg against Chelsea that should have been stone-wall penalties. In the second leg, Eric Abidal was wrongly sent off when replays showed he did nothing wrong. And Barcelona only qualified for the finals because of a long range shot from Iniesta at the literal end of the game..

Surely, a ref that is trying to help Barcelona would not hope they snatched something from the game at the last second whilst giving them a red card they did not deserve. People should put on their thinking caps once in a while.