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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:55pm On Aug 06, 2023
Unlimited22:
Someone should please tell Pep that Kovacic is a good player but a Gundogan he is not.
Gundogan was a City player when we lost to Leicester in 2021 and Liverpool just last season. The community shield is usually City's 3rd or 4th competitive friendly before the season while other teams are fitter having usually played more games.

Pep was simply trying out IF/OR formations.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:51pm On Aug 06, 2023
Kantebets:
arsenal was lucky today they wont make top 4 with what am seeing
They will.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 5:00pm On Aug 05, 2023
monerozi5590:
This is the same guy that said the exchange rate doesn't affect our spending power because Tinubu said so or something.

Brewery are thinking of increasing the prices of their goods because of exchange rate, not only them others too.

He ain't the only one that loves Tinubu. We love him too but not everything he say or do should be agreed on.
. . .And when one disassociates from the group-think, the lynch mob won't like it. If you proffer a defense for PBAT in one argument, you are expected to do so in every single argument and your silence is interpreted as complicity. I have never seen this type of herd mentality. Grown men, behaving like a cult of following.

I can defend Trump with regards to all the bogus charges against him, but still lampoon him for stupidly supporting this mRNA gene therapy. Just like I can appreciate DeSantis for his handling of COVID-19 and still drag him for his take on Ukraine. I am not pro-Russia on every single topic as well. People should learn to compartmentalize when listening or I guess, reading.

Someone asked a good question but it was glossed over because people - especially Africans - abhor critical reasoning. The person asked how it was possible for an ousted and arrested President to still have access to communicate with his western overlords to ask for help. Common sense should let people know that the very first thing coup plotters hope to execute is to cut off the communication capacity of the incumbent they plan to oust.

Consequently. . .You know what? It is not even necessary to draw the nexuses. Let them keep drinking the kool-aid. Let me act like them and just believe that the people who lied to me about everything else thus far. May be, this one last time, they'll be telling me the truth. I am that naiive.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 4:30pm On Aug 05, 2023
Spy360:
They were still favourites to win it.
You have your answer!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 8:29am On Aug 05, 2023
monerozi5590:
I don't even understand you. You blame the increase in security in Northern Nigeria (Boko Haram) due to military intervention in Libya.

Now you are wanting military intervention in Niger!

You d make me laugh
When people are incapable of making rational, original, independent thoughts, that is what usually ensues.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:43am On Aug 05, 2023
Shaytun:
Imagine the dissonance 😂.

I’m sure baba does not even know the history of that handle oo.

Just post anything dem feed you Dey go, Garbage in Garbage out.
The irony. grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:36am On Aug 05, 2023
Shaytun:
😂😂😂

See the handle this one is getting news from.

I’m not surprised anyway
Left turn, Right turn. About turn. Forward match.

Zombie oh Zombie. . .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 6:59am On Aug 05, 2023
Spy360:
Currently is City stronger than last season?
When City were 8 points behind Arsenal last season did you think they were on course to winning the treble?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 6:56am On Aug 05, 2023
Dance, Puppet, Dance.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:06am On Aug 05, 2023
A40:
Them don cook better propaganda sell give una. Niger that has been an unstable zone for years. When Wagner begin operate? Is it Wagner that have been running wild in Chad all this time?

Is it Wagner that scattered Libya?

This is akin to when Bush claimed there was weapon of mass destruction in Iraq and tore the country upside down and didn't see any.

What are the resources Nigeria get compared to Russia grin

No take laugh kill me abeg. Russia might not be involved before but they will be now since we have chosen to not mind our business.

We literally had territory of the country that wasn't under Nigerian rule a while ago and you're talking of Wagner and Russia. Na wa oh. Shey na Wagner say make you no fit enter Potiskum or comot once 4pm knack grin

We don't even know for certain who backed this coup but una don begin blame Russia again without proof. So tey you dey tie Russia to ESN. Ma pa mi nau
grin grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:42pm On Aug 04, 2023
raumdeuter:
Who was the CDM here for Argentina
They want to unlock Enzo. They will later need to unlock Caicedo if they get him. As long as Todd is listening to Hensben that is sure to happen.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 5:40pm On Aug 04, 2023
Amigoss:
Seems the West troll farms are out in their numbers
This is called "Dance puppet, dance". grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 5:39pm On Aug 04, 2023
Spy360:
Are the players he is bringing better than the ones that are leaving?

Gundogan, Mahrez, Cancelo, for Kovacic. That's a weakened side.

Even if he brings in Gvardiol and Olise, he will lose Laporte and Silva.
We won the major trophies without Cancelo. Gundo was not the goal scorer he became before Pep. Kovacic can take the same leap besides, there are other players that can be deployed there.

Mahrez is going to be replaced one way or the other.

Laporte was inconsequential last season.

Bernardo is not for sale. City already said it.

We have Pep Guardiola. The best manager in world football.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 11:18pm On Aug 03, 2023
Oldboss:
Guardiola should not play this season we need another EPL so we will keep farming The Premier League
I like Mitoma of BHA. Also like Kvara of Napoli but City don't like doing business with both teams so it is a bust.

I am watching the moves of other teams and comparing it with what City possess. So far, I am yet to see the team that has fully covered the gap let alone one enough to overtake. Pep is still the best manager in the world.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:15pm On Aug 03, 2023
Use that same energy for Enzo. You paid top money for him, remember?

How many chances did Jackson miss yesterday?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 3:06pm On Aug 02, 2023
mostob:
I doubt you do watch City match sef. Good day bro
Very funny.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 3:06pm On Aug 02, 2023
Oldboss:
Ok boss
Who is pep signing to replace Mahrez
Mehn, I have no idea. Might end up being Cole Palmer the way we are not signing anyone.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 2:39am On Aug 02, 2023
mostob:
The inverted CB idea came from Gundogan for instance.
When Pep just arrived at City in 2016?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 2:39am On Aug 02, 2023
Oldboss:
Xavi, is not a student he is like Klopp his core is not built on positional play watch our 2nd leg classico in Copa del Rey, against Bayern, recent friendly with Arsenal
Ever heard the expression "the tail does not wag the dog"?

I don't know why you people can do stronghead for something so clear. Klopp, Tuchel, Pochettino etc all took bits from Pep's positional play but you don't see me list them as his students because their style dominates the bits they took from him and they use it more often. The same is not the case for Xavi and the other names I listed.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 4:33pm On Jul 30, 2023
Spy360:
There are aspects of coaching that coach learn from each other. However, a student remains a student and a rabbi a rabbi.

Pep may have learnt one or two things from Arteta, but Arteta remains his student.
Surely people working together can and do learn from each other but your fellow Arsenal fan is alluding to something else so I want him to provide specifics. If I can then prove that whatever he is trying to claim was copied" was done by Pep long before that assistant or student ever worked with him, your fellow may have to concede that perhaps Pep did not learn it from the assistant or student?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 4:30pm On Jul 30, 2023
mostob:
The one he is currently coaching, those he has coached before and those that have worked as his assistant.
Do you have specifics or should we just take your word for it?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 2:46pm On Jul 30, 2023
mostob:
You do know some of Pep's idea are from these so-called students right?
The students that started coaching before him or what?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17:
BlueAngel444:
Brighton were not the only teams chasing Caicedo then, Caicedo probably choose them because he felt he as a better path to first team, he was even loaned after he was signed self. Todd is the reason, how? They paid Enzos release clause, the negotiations was so as not to pay it quickly. If you read news you would know West Ham selling rice for £106m is the cause of their chance. Reports before that sale was that they wanted £80m for Caicedo which was £10m more than what Arsenal bid before. And Mc Allister had a release clause 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Not all clubs are at the same level when it comes to how advanced they are in signing a player. BHA were the most advanced that was why Caicedo went there. Otherwise, bigger clubs could have easily coughed out that figure.

Next, from what I read, CFC agreed to pay more than the release clause for Enzo because of the payment period. That was a bad precedent as it has energized other teams to be hard at negotiating with you guys. That is what I meant.

Yes, it was reported that BHA will accept £80M for the player but that is not baked into his contract so it is open to negotiations and of course, BHA feel they can get more because you guys agreed to pay more than Enzo's release clause.

BHA had no intentions of selling the player to Arsenal for that amount and definitely not at that time. Had Arsenal known they were just £10M shy off the desired amount they would have gone out to get him rather than Declan Rice months later. Arsenal backed out because they knew BHA were going to charge crazily for him.

Besides, BHA know that anybody they try to sign in his stead will be expensive because teams know they will make a killing from selling him so CFC will have to pay up to secure his services.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:25pm On Jul 29, 2023
airmark:
You are a malfunctioning Android with screen problem. Like I advised earlier, go for surgery to get your head fixed and also treat your eye.
Always arguing with strong head in the wrong direction. So Pulisic was better in a game he could not influence his team to win in? You mean MOTM Pulisic made no assists or goals? And you posted this thinking you were one-ing up on me?

Buahahahahahaha grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 7:21pm On Jul 29, 2023
Oldboss:
Total Football ball was started in1970 by the Dutch team Finish Michele team and not by Cryuff he was a student His obsession with possession led him to develop a model based on triangles which Pep change to tic taka
Yes because Cruyff was a student of Rinus like Pep was a student of Cruyff. Nobody did copy +paste.

Besides, Wikipedia will mislead if they are your only source of research. Tiki taka just means give me I give you. What Pep did with Cruyff's system is he made it more about the positions players take rather than their fixed role. In Cruyff's as was in Rinus' the players advanced the ball together but in short possessions and movement. Pep made it more dynamic.

The point is, one can also argue he was not a student of Cruyff since he never worked as an assistant. What makes manager's create their own lane is what the system is built on. Klopp copies Pep as well but nobody calls him Pep's student because his core was not built on the same positional play even though he stole other elements out of it.

That is why Arteta, Ten Hag, Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Kompany etc are STUDENTS of Pep.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Android17: 5:16pm On Jul 29, 2023
Oldboss:
Ok this retaining of ball possessions was started by Cryuff. Doesn't mean every body that' want to play that way is a student.
Arsene Wenger was playing the same pattern of football does it also mean he is a student of Cruyff?
No, ball possession was not started by Cruyff. It was total football that Cryuff implemented and "students" of Johan, took some aspects of total football and executed it in their own way. That is what made them his students: the fact that they studied his way of playing and used it as a template for their teams.

And Wenger did not play total football per se. But that's talk for another day.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:13pm On Jul 29, 2023
BlueAngel444:
if they keep Caicedo good luck to them trying to convince any youth player or any South American youth player who wants a stepping up team to join. Knowing Brighton would fvking go back on their words
LOL. Clubs are running a business not a help-Chelsea foundation. You either put up or shut up. That is how they think because they are not desperate. Moses will still be incentivized to give his best because he wants to prove he is still worth it for a big club to come scoop him. I learned this during the Harry Kane saga with City.

And it is not true that players would eschew BHA due to this. They will still rush there. There is a reason you and the CFC scouts did not know Moses till he came to BHA. It is because your scouts won't typically search for talent in the places the BHA scouts will go and you will not have the structure to help them show forth their talent at that age.

BHA maybe acting greedy but Todd going forward with the Enzo purchase is the reason you are in this predicament. He inflated the market and now BHA feel like they should get around the same ballpark figure for their biggest talent. They clearly rate him over McAllister and that says a lot.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 11:35am On Jul 29, 2023
Theflint1:
A hardcore Jagabandit seems to have seen the light...nothing could have prepared me for a fold this early cheesy
I told you who will win the elections. I never told anyone I skewed towards any particular candidate. Make una try dey drink water sometimes. We are now in Global Burning according to lamestreet media. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:31am On Jul 29, 2023
airmark:
When jungle matured at the world cup last year, what did your Atutupoyoyo Sterling do? What did he do against the poor Pulisic and his friends? The Jamaican was bundled out of the match for being useless, while Pulisic gave a MOTM performance.


You process stuff like a malfunctioning Android, beyond repair. If you think scoring paltry 6 goals in like 28 league matches, while collecting 320k per week, was great, then you need a brain surgery.
Was Sterling not injured for sometime last season? What did CFC as a team achieve while he was out? How many goals and assists did CFC garner in that time frame?

If you think you are making thought-provoking comments with the jibber jabber about 1 insignificant WC game in which Pulisic's team lost, I don't know what else to tell you. You make the most ridiculous and illogical arguments sometimes it baffles the mind of a sane person.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 12:00am On Jul 29, 2023
larride:
If DSS has already cleared the nominee for the President, nothing the Senate will do because it's the same DSS that will do the screening if the Senate wants to investigate.
You are right and that shows how poorly run our DSS is because this same issue played out with Kemi Adeosun and Evan/Evans Enwerem and the Salisu Buhari (could be wrong name) guy and his fake Toronto diploma.

I'll be disappointed if the Taraba nominee had been given a go by the DSS. For now, I am choosing to believe the screening happens at the NASS and not before the nomination.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 10:50pm On Jul 28, 2023
Shaytun:
Those types of screening that will expose forgers and the like would have been done by the DSS and EFCC, I think they have been some cases in the past where some nominee didn’t pass the security clearance, I’m not sure.

What I would like to see on the senate floor is scrutinising the nominee to test their knowledge of the ministry they are going to head.
The president nominates who he wants and they get screened by the NASS. The NASS in tandem with Law enforcement should then do a background check and provide the details to the legislators who will use those to vet the nominee and decide if they are to be confirmed during that screening process.

I don't mind them asking questions around the ministry the nominees could potentially preside over however, leadership is not about having technical knowledge in a field. That's what the civil servants and advisers are there for. Leadership should be about managing human beings, doing the same with risks and delegating appropriately. Interestingly, those skills are transferable.

El Rufai for e.g would still be competent if he was made the health minister. He does not have to know the definition of medical terms etc to be good at his job.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:39pm On Jul 28, 2023
BlueAngel444:
ball winning DM, dude DMs are supposed to win the ball, be it duels, interceptions, blocks etc or win the man 😁. It's just that Caicedo does it almost like Kante all around the pitch but in defence and while pressing but a manager shouldn't limit his tactics to a player profile especially one I doubt Poch has used before (hmm veratti??)

If it was Pep and he converts Cucurella to a DM on the leftside and Enzo on the right, some would call him a genius for it, but what if Poch does it, so that Matseen can play both as a backup LB but as a backup LW.

A player's profile can change, Hall can be a LB or a CM, we saw Trent play midfield few times for Liverpool and he seemed better at it than at RB self. Hall may even be a better backup at lb if he stays than cucurella currently is. If it works Chelsea won't look or seem desperate to sign Caicedo and may get him later for a better price than 100m
Caicedo, though good at regaining possession is not a ball-winning player like Kante. He is a center midfielder. Very good at passing, quick, strong and can progress the ball.

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