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@ayobase: Souljaboi1 "protest" o...BUT true sha,I never jam aboki mechanic sef. You don see any?

Often times intending couple s arrive late to the venue (church). In most of the cases, it's the bride to be that is the usual latecomer.

The last one I experienced personally, the lady was about 2 hours late. Meanwhile, guests and officiating ministers are usually there waiting.
Also, some churches have more than one sets to officiate their marriage ceremony.

#I don't do well with the Nigerian time thing. No,not even at a wedding ceremony. I hate to have my time being wasted# Anyway...

Many churches have set up different systems of curbing this dilemma. Some, very brilliant but funny while others are interesting yet disturbing.

Now,the most baffling is the "hear-says" that one (popular denomination) church's approach is to start the process in the absence of the intending couple and guess what, if the intending couple are yet to arrive still, they will be joined in their absence.

1) Ever heard such rumor?
2) Do you think such joining is legit/acceptable?

Jenwitemi:
What duty did Lucifer had other than to look good and perfect all the time? Was he not supposed to be the head of the heavenly choir as well, or something like that, according to the mythology? The question is, "why is this so important?"

hehehehehe. I like the "mythology" part.

italo:
How can you obey God by disobeying his Church?

Do these verses mean anything to you or are they not in your bible:

Matt 16:19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

Acts 5:4 "You did not lie to us[a] but to God!"

Acts15:28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to impose on you no further burden than these essentials:

1Tim3:15 the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth

Please give one example of a Christian who held a doctrine contrary to Church doctrine in the Bible. Just one.



It means humans are causing confusion. It was precisely because of the circumcision issue that the Church held its first Council in Jerusalem in Acts15 to define the truth on that. After then, which Christian opposed the Church teaching?

Mention his name!

You mean if the church were to say any woman who puts on trouser will end up in hell OR that owning and watching TV is a sin, I have to find someone, Christian opposed the Church teaching after the first Council meeting held in Jerusalem in Acts15, in order to be able to take my personal stance?
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Sorry,I can't find anyone. I give up. I'll take the church's stance.

Goshen360:
Which date I talk say the meeting will take place and which date you dey oko afo? Me wey don return to the States. ..lol.

I know nau. I know say I no go dey,that na why I no sign up.
I been just remember na im I say make I hear jist (as you no give feedback)
Me sef just dey return to my FCT state. LOL

Goshen360
We no hear feedback from the gathering.
As I dey oko-afo;badagry now na I'm I remember.

Toks2008:
This is an intellectual forum and not hostel discussion.

Choi!!!

Cutie is in defence of bride price. I agree with the "pay bride price" argument because not all ladies are priceless. (Hope you get what I'm trying to say).

damiloladuke:
COURTESY : http://www.wenogetjob.com/2015/07/ladie-stop-giving-guys-sex.html?m=1

True,and I know that many people know this,they just don't know how to live with it.

ayobase:
@OP

Edit and space out the write-up pls.

Na my mobile do gree me format am. I'll work on it when I get on PC.

NairaMode:
I have not been to church for a long time too but I have been to church long enough to know that it is required of us to always be in church.

"REQUIRED"..."ALWAYS"
How is it so?

italo:
Where the Church has defined a teaching, all personal assessment and conclusion must fall in line with Church teaching, otherwise they must be discarded.

Where the Church has not defined a teaching, e.g on evolution, individuals are free to have their personal opinions.

I thought " We ought to obey God rather than men." (Acts 5:29).


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I believe that the "church's" defined teachings are not ALWAYS superior to personal assessment. This is evident in the OT levitical order and in our own time hence "aligning" with such all in the name of "church" will be error and sin.
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The issue see here is:
Is it possible to have different opinions (and stands) about an issue?

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Can one hold circumcision true while another believe otherwise? (Like Peter's group and Paul's)

If there are cases like this,does that mean God is causing confusion? I think not.

zed7:
It's a pity u are living with a difficult woman. Try and record your conversations. Someday u may need it to vindicate yourself. For now, try and keep calm.

Let it be a spycam though. Video evidence (with audio) is better than audio only.

coolestrogue:
Move to where?

coolestrogue:
Take your worries to God almighty, He alone can see you through. There is nothing lalasticlala and ishilove can do, the best they can do is to take this to the front-page.


What you passing through is just a little of what Joseph in the Bible went through, read that portion of the Bible and find hope.

Don't bother about moving. Coolestrogue is trying to tell you that you might soon be in jail (lolz).

ATMC:
Can anything make God's word of no effect? I doubt.

Yes,people's own will and way of life if it is being upheld above God's commandment.
By "no effect" I don't mean impotent.

frosbel:
Or is he/she supposed to tow the line of the church without any argument or debate ?

Sometimes the issues end up like "as for me (and my house)..."
If you're sure your personal stance is not against the will of God. Yes!

ATMC:
Is judgement on a personal level? If yes then you have the answer to your question. Otherwise, bring it on...tow the doctrinal line of your church.

Not if the doctrine is a commandment of men that makes the word of God of no effect.

THE CHURCH AND THE WORLD
I have not been in the church for a long time…. I was not there on the day of Pentecost… I was not there when Brother Stephen had to endure the cruel stones of angry religious people who were mad at his bitings words… I was not present when the church rose in unison to save the head of Peter who was already in the dungeon of Herod Agrippa 2 who had silence the first son of Zebedee among the twelve… I was not among the congregation that listened as elders read from the handwritings of Paul, Peter or John… I have not been in the church for a long time! BUT!!! I have been in the church for some time. Long enough to see the era when the world was different from the church. I saw the days when the world looked at the church with respect and reverence. I saw the days when “born again” experience was the sincere bridge through which men cross from the world to the church. I saw the days of “SU” revival when all truly converted people were so labelled by the world. I saw the days when men respond to altar calls not with chewing gums in their mouths but with tears in their eyes broken and truly submissive before the altar of God. I have not been in the church for a long time! I have not been in the church for a long time. BUT!!! I saw the days when men of God were not men of gold. I saw the days when Reverends were not laughing stocks in the society but men given the honour of the God they truly represent. I saw the days when men went to church to meet preachers and not entertainers. I saw the days when the pulpit was not a place for comic reliefs or centers of business discussions but God’s holy altars from where holy fire proceeded to consume evil works in men’s lives. I saw the days the Spirit of God would expose the secret evils of men when they came to worship and men would not dare come to His presence with sins not yet repented. I saw the days when the church was a centre of transformation and God’s workshop where men’s lives were fabricated and molded after Him. I have not been in the church for a long time. I have not been in the church for a long time. BUT!!! I saw the days when churches were not business centres and human empires. I saw the days when humility was the hallmark of Christian service and men of God were contented with that simple life of Christ and will not hoodwink their hungry congregation to pay through their noses for the luxury and extravagance of pulpit business men. I saw the day when collection of money was never a means for motivating God to answer prayers. I saw days when men pray lifting holy hands and not 1000 euro notes in prayer meetings. I saw days when men of God were empowered by the Holy Spirit to raise men and not trained by godless motivational speakers to raise offerings. I saw the days when Jesus was the centre of all messages, heaven was the centre of all focuses and holiness was the centre of all Christian character. I have not been in the church for a long time! I have not been in the church for a long time! HONESTLY, I don’t know for how long I will remain in the church on this side of eternity. NAY, I do not know for how long the church will remain before the harvest of her Lord. BUT, But my heart bleeds for the modern day church. Oh the church of the computer age. Nay, the church of the ICE age. The church where men play more than pray. The church where holiness is a denominational doctrine. The church where those who speak the truth are extremists and biased. I weep for the modern day church as I see self- adverts and miracle hawking in the name of ministry. I weep as I see the church married to the world and the world enjoying the driver’s seat of the church. I weep when I see a church that is a million miles wide but less than a meter deep. Although I have not been in the church for a long time, I weep brethren for what I see the church turning to in my generation. I weep because my children and their generation do not see what I saw in the days past. I have not been in the church for a long time! I have not been in the church for a long time. BUT!!! I notice everyday that the Bible is the same in every age and generation. I have read times without number what is written in 1 Peter 2:9: “BUT YE ARE A CHOSEN GENERATION, A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, AN HOLY NATION, A PECULIAR PEOPLE; THAT YE SHOULD SHEW FORTH THE PRAISES OF HIM WHO HATH CALLED YOU OUT OF DARKNESS INTO HIS MARVELLOUS LIGHT”. I keep wondering the peculiarity of the church in today’s world. Well, I have not been in the church for a long time! I have not been in the church for a long time. BUT!!! I have been there long enough to know that the Foundation of God still stands sure and also long enough to know that the Lord still knows those who are His and everyone that is named with Christ must depart from iniquity. I have been in the church long enough to understand that not everyone that calls Jesus Lord will enter His heavenly home. For said He “MANY WILL SAY TO ME IN THAT DAY, LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN THY NAME? AND IN THY NAME HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS? AND IN THY NAME DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS? AND THEN WILL I PROFESS UNTO THEM, I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY” (Mat 7:22-23). Beloved, how long have you been in the church and what gospel have you been made to believe? I hope it is not one that will put your eternity in serious jeopardy? Think on these things and heed the warning of God from a sincere believer. I have not been in the church for a long time but I desire to be with the Master; my loving Saviour and my Lord throughout eternity. I HOPE THIS IS ALSO YOUR SINCERE DESIRE!
P.S. I'm not the author.

Ephemmm:
Despite staying idle for over a year after his graduation from one of Nigerian Polytechnics, my friend finally secured his first job at Access Bank as a contract staff with 70k as salary. After two years in Access Bank, he did not only become a graduate member of a professional body in his discipline, but also strive hard to have 600k in his account. My friend has also acquired two plots of land in “not too enlightened area” in Osogbo, the capital state capital of Osun State. As a very ambitious man, he is also considering going for his Master Degree Programme, but has not yet decide on which the course and direction to follow.

At a talented student, he came out as the best candidate among both Universities and Polytechnic graduates called for interview in one of private firms in Nigeria and has started working with them with N115k as net monthly salary in the past few months.
He is 32 years of age now, and he is in love with a lady of 26 who was her junior while in Polytechnic. The lady in question too has combined fashion school with her job search, the ambition which has not yet come to a fruition.

The bone of contention now is the insistence of my friend that his would-be-partner MUST be employed gainfully too before he can have a slightest though about marriage despite intense pressures from all angles. His parents have assured him of little help during marriage ceremony, but his self-reliant tendency has not acceded to their admonition. In my own perception about him, he is not ready to settle down for marriage as a result of his 'over ambition' in academic line: truly he is talented and I can beat my chest for him anyday anytime when it comes his discipline.

Without accommodation of his own at present, coupled with the need for marriage expenses and the need to further his education, should he consider settling for marriage in Lagos now?

As one of his closest friend, I decided to narrate this incidence on nairaland so that he can get first-hand-advice different from my own perspective because he is a kind of somebody that nobody can compel to do something unless he is personally and totally convinced, just like me.

This is a true life scenario: matured advice is needed. Thank God he is a nairalander too

While it is good to look before one leaps, he can't be too sure that he'll be able to sustain anything. No! not even assured of life itself.

If he waits long enough and eventually gets what he wants (employed partner and more money for himself) let's say at age 39, does he think that life will wait for him?

Him go see say old age no easy to train children. He will surely regret not having children earlier by that time (especially after he understood that money would have come anyways).

Jusmudi:
"... then the king sat on his throne, and had a
throne brought for the king's mother, and she sat on
his right. Then she said, 'I have one small request to
make of you, do not refuse me.' And the king said to
her, 'Make your request, my mother, for I will not
refuse you.'" [1 Kgs. 2:19-20]

So can you tell us the result of the queen's request from her son? Please quote the bible verses following the one you quoted above. SMH

Jusmudi:
As some non-Catholics pray through their deceased parents, grandparents or other biological relatives, asking these beloved departed persons to intercede before God on their behalf, Catholics pray through Mary to Jesus, taking advantage of her blessed position as the Mother of God.

By non-catholics,which group are you referring to? Praying through their deceased parents...? You are unbelievable.
On your way into the ditch that you gladly look forward to falling into.

P.S.
Your OP is all a catechism joke I suppose.

ProfessorPeter:
The reason i raised this issue is to correct the impression that until you do "white wedding" sleeping with your partner is sin. I ve seen how
1. Church stopped " white wedding" because the lady was pregnant before the wedding date.
2. The church suspended the couple because the woman put to bed less than nine month after their wedding.
It makes d couple look like a sinners in the eye of God and the people also see then as sinner.
CHURCH WEDDING IS NOT SCRIPTURAL. DOWRY VALIDATE BEFORE GOD N MAN, THE REST IS UNNECESSARY

Ok,now its clear to me.

All na religious bondage. Doctrine of men is not the standard of God...BUT you are also yet to show me where the bible says that DOWRY validates marriage before God and man.

ProfessorPeter:
which of then is important? Dowry or wedding? If a man paid dowry of a lady n take her in and live together. Do they sin?

The question is not even about it being sin in the first place. It's about what makes two become one and at what point the joining occurs.

Many references in the scripture.

Processor01:
Brother, I disagree with you on this one.

There is no scripture that requires a believer to dedicate their union before any congregation and by a servant of God. If you find any reference in the Bible then let me know. The union is dedicated to God by the couple themselves, you don't need any special priest and servant and same way a child can be dedicated to God by the parents without the whole fanfare. In fact, dedication is simply committing into God's hand and trusting him to complete what he has started.

Betrothal is what we popularly call engagement. It is simply an agreement to be married in future. Our fathers practised this by having families make marriage plans for their children at a young age. I don't believe any Christian would begin to have sex after engagement.

Infact bro,betrothal is on the same level as introduction (formal declaration of interest in marriage witnessed by families.

Engagement literary means connected. When people are connected, why do they need "white" connection again?

It is because we adopted the "white" wedding that our faith and practice was relegated and reduced to semi-authentic.

"The union is dedicated to God by the couple themselves" - this statement is the over-all truth.

ProfessorPeter:
Traditional wedding or church wedding also known as white wedding Which one is them is scriptural?
I was teaching some weeks back on marriage, i told my audience that marriage is valid as soon dowry is paid. The scriptures recognizes traditional marriage. I told them that a man is free to sleep with hi wife as soon as dowry is paid.
I told them that white wedding is not scriptural and it is not biblical doctrine but church doctrine. It is high time we stop keeping people in bondage through a church doctrine

Same way "white wedding" was copied (no big deal with the copying other than making it a standard and a tool for discrimination and blackmail by some) so was payment of "dowry" copied.

This practice has long found it's way into the society that it's hard to divorce it.

However,marriage is established between two people mainly (regardless of white wedding or dowry being paid) when some steps are taken, which are God's principle of "two becoming one".

Honoring ones parent and societal practices (which in itself not a sin) is ideal in the sight of God hence they are also be permitted in the sight of God BUT they are not spelt out as a requirement by God in the scripture. NOT even dowry was commanded.

IMHO, AY is overhyped. QED

hifaif:
I was reading a book by Bishop David Oyedepo titled The Healing Balm. In one of the chapters, Oyedepo said believers are not meant to fall sick because Jesus didn't fall sick.

But there is a passage in the bible that confirms or suggests that Jesus was most of the time unwell. Read Isaiah 53:1-12. In this passage, it is even revealed that Jesus was so ugly and sick almost all the time that men thought he was afflicted by God.

At the bolded, are you referring to verse 2?

"For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him."

If yes, it doesn't mean that he is "so ugly" rather it means that he was as ordinary a man as any other person.
He was so an everyday man that someone needed to point him out (Judas) among his brethren.

He was down to earth. Son of man--a real human without exceptional beauty being God in the flesh.

I hope that helps.

Flashh:
[color=#006677]What your post is deducing didn't relate with my post! [/color]

What did you deduce from my post?

christemmbassey:
bros no drag this post with me nah! Ok, i go handle al the seeds , wetting of pastors throat, enemies die offerings and ur isaacs. Let there be peace.

Sir,with this allocation, your cup will surely run over.

@goshen: I chose the venue already. Suntan beach under the 7th coconut tree. Lol. Pay for my flight,I go come. Convention of truth.

Flashh:
[color=#006677]Seems you can only read but can't comprehend... Always try apply knowledge when you read post that confused you.

So try understand my post. [/color]

Ok sir but I still insist that "twas your kind of person that sank the titanic". I actually hope you understood my words else you only read and being defensive as I expected...

Flashh:
[color=#006677]Those who says money can't buy happiness are shopping at the wrong places. [/color]

Twas your kind of person that sank the titanic.

@OP: hard work indeed. Let us all labour in that kind of sphere of life and see where we'll all remain.
Lucky him,he made money but he has not contributed much and he's dry (my opinion). Abeg,where better comedians dem dey?

I go come if you go let me coordinate collection of tithes and offering

The bride and her flower girl both got a smooch on the big day. (Photo: Leah Bullard Photography)

Love was in the air for this bride — and her flower girl.

When Tennessee mother Michelle Hall got married on Saturday, she wasn’t the only one getting a kiss. Her 4-year-old daughter, Anderson, decided to get a smooch of her own, too, and surprised everyone when she planted one on the ring bearer, Ike.

Thankfully, the moment was caught on camera.

***Things dey happen***
cc: farano, Rocktation, Ishilove

eazisky:
police: baba ooo!!! we hail u o... make we get our own share of wardrobe na



senator: u mean una wan Change una uniforms too

Like Olamide spoke to their mind all at the same time "ko duro so ke"