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Christianity Etc › Re: What Can You Make Of This Scripture? by anukulapo(op): 5:41pm On Jan 19, 2015

Ezedon:
Read with the inspiration of holy spirit to understand

Share what the holy spirit inspired you with.

Christianity Etc › What Can You Make Of This Scripture? by anukulapo(op): 3:19pm On Jan 19, 2015

1 Timothy 4:13

King James Bible
Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.

New International Version
Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching.

I have come across questions that have relationships with some of the points in the verse above.
Paul, writing to his protege encouraged him to continue the ministry work AND particularly encouraging him to continue
* Reading (the scripture)
* Preaching (exhortation)
* Teaching (doctrine)

One of the questions I came across on the forum is about what the "scripture" is (holding that Paul is definitely not referring to his epistle(s) and other epistles).

To put it forth, my question...
1) Which scripture was he referring to? OR what was he referring to generally to be read (if it was not the scripture)
2) What doctrines was he talking about?

All teachers are welcome.

Thanks.

TV/Movies › Torrent Grabbers, EZTV Has Moved To A New Domain by anukulapo(op): 2:24pm On Jan 19, 2015

Torrent sites have been on the run lately, with raids and all manner of filtering by governments that are trying to control the internet. It doesn't work, as the folks who want access bad enough know the ways around these things. Two of the latest victims were The Pirate Bay and EZTV. The former remains dead, though signs of a comeback are present. The latter wasn't down for long following the raid.

EZTV made a quick comeback, but problems have continued for the service, as Italian authorities closed in on its .IT domain. This has forced the organization to pack up shop and make a move to a new country where things will, hopefully, be calmer.

The old site, EZTV.it, has fled to Switzerland, where it now resides under EZTV.ch. According to TorrentFreak, "Over the past several years it has maintained a steady user-base and with millions of users it’s undoubtedly the most used TV-torrent site on the Internet today".

It's an alert to those who try to stop these things. Shutting down or blocking access only serves as a deterrent temporarily. Those who wish to find a way around will -- both the sites and those who use them. It's a ridiculous game that the MPAA and governments will never win. It's only a matter of time now before we watch the next move in this chess game.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most Churches Make It Mandatory For Women To Cover Their Hair In Church? by anukulapo: 3:03pm On Jan 18, 2015

KoloOyinbo:
Well he said it is a custom! These change from place to place and time to time.

The key issue is how we can be so immature in our Christianity to concentrate on some irrelevancy and miss the message entirely. I appreciate that in a few communities it is necessary to simplify matters enormously to facilitate understanding but please not to the point of missing the important message.

What do you make of the verse below? Do you think it is also a custom of that time? Is that order optional?

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (1 Corinthians 11:3).

"But if you choose to follow it fine and if you don't want to follow it there is nothing wrong with that."

Does your point quoted above apply to 1 cor 11:3?

**2** Did you miss this part of my post?

"...his reference to the word "custom" was not with respect to the source of the practice." BUT "His reference to "custom" (as practiced by other churches) is just to backup his point.
In other words, he was trying to say "this thing I'm telling you is not a big deal in other churches because they are practicing it too." It is a custom that can be observed in other churches."

What do you say about the above post?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most Churches Make It Mandatory For Women To Cover Their Hair In Church? by anukulapo: 1:17pm On Jan 18, 2015

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most Churches Make It Mandatory For Women To Cover Their Hair In Church? by anukulapo: 1:13pm On Jan 18, 2015

Hiswordxray:
Paul didn't say didn't say this is directly from the Lord and he didn't say if women didn't cover their hair they will go to Hell.

True,I don't think anyone is in danger of hell just because of head covering.

Hiswordxray:
Paul didn't say didn't say this is directly from the Lord...

But Paul said this is a custom.

Like I said earlier, the reference to custom of other churches is not the source of his teaching but a backup of his teaching.

Hiswordxray:
And to be a part of the Church as at that time you must cover your hair as a woman.

Women covering hair is nothing but a custom for believer as at the time that verse was written.

And at what point in the church history did it become optional?
Who received the revelation that in this time,it is optional? -- We can refer to Paul about the "requirement" of that time

And to be a part of the Church as at that time you must cover your hair as a woman.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most Churches Make It Mandatory For Women To Cover Their Hair In Church? by anukulapo: 1:13pm On Jan 18, 2015

[quote author=KoloOyinbo post=29652361
But Paul said this is a custom. Custom tells you what you need to do to be a part of a group or a society.And to be a part of the Church as at that time [/b]you must cover your hair as a woman.
Women covering hair is nothing but a [b]custom for believer as at the time that verse was written. But if you choose to follow it fine and if you don't want to follow
it there is nothing wrong with that.

How can it be any clearer than this?[/quote]You err because his reference to the word "custom" was not with respect to the source of the practice.
Like was rightly pointed out, his teaching were either
1) directly from the Lord
2) from the wisdom that God gave him
3) just an advice (from a person that has obtained favour from the Lord)

His reference to "custom" (as practiced by other churches) is just to backup his point.
In other words, he was trying to say "this thing I'm telling you is not a big deal in other churches because they are practicing it too." It is a custom that can be observed in other churches.

The source of his point is what you should seek (which should be one of the 3 above), then the usual argument can follow (whether he meant scarf/veil or he was referring to the hair as the veil).

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Most Churches Make It Mandatory For Women To Cover Their Hair In Church? by anukulapo: 11:49am On Jan 18, 2015

xpac01:
Women with pretty hair do on sunday service could be very distracting both to female brethren and angels. Pls. cover it. Thanks.

Hum...a simple approach to what is written.

Politics › Re: Patience Jonathan Technically Tackles Buhari's 'no First Lady' Policy by anukulapo: 10:04am On Dec 28, 2014

egift:
@Bold:
Tit not just that you lie, but that you Jonathan supporter do it insulting the sensibilities of every Nigeria all the time. In 2013 alone, Jonathan allocated 4 billion naira to that illegal office.

Uproar over N4bn Budget for First Lady’s Office

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/uproar-over-n4bn-budget-for-first-lady-s-office/138107/

Sorry to inform you that PEGites and women right activist don't listen to this kind of news.

Politics › Re: Patience Jonathan Technically Tackles Buhari's 'no First Lady' Policy by anukulapo: 10:01am On Dec 28, 2014

nedu2000:
more prosperous countries can afford to make candidate choices based on sex,race,tribe but not nigeria ,priority in having females in govt shld be secondary!!all we want are the best people whether its 1000 men only or 50000 women only or 1000000 hausa ministers i really don't care provided they deliver

Where has this mindset been all the while until sentiment took over the mind of Nigerians?

Crime › Re: Okada Rider Beats Pregnant Woman To Coma For Grabbing His Crotch by anukulapo: 1:23pm On Dec 23, 2014

Sexual harassment and assault. She is luck that it happened in our time where gender sentiment is above justice and equity. If it was during Father Moses' time, she for don lose her hands - sharia justice of righteousness.

Her case would be judged similarly to:
11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of
them comes to rescue her husband from his
assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by
his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand.
Show her no pity.

Deuteronomy 25:11-12New International
Version (NIV)

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Find It In Your Bible? (pic) by anukulapo: 3:41am On Dec 21, 2014

herald9:
He is one of the 'three wise men' that brought gifts to Jesus...

Guy,you funny die. LOL. Which of the 3 gifts?

Christianity Etc › Re: Does People's Name Have Any Effect On Their Fate Or Destiny by anukulapo: 3:36am On Dec 21, 2014

AreaFada2:
Last time I checked, I didn't see an "Olawole" among Forbes Billionaires neither has anybarry called "Beauty" won Miss World peageant yet

Ahahahahahahaha. Over true dey worry your post

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Career › Re: A Thread For Professional & Intending Truck Drivers by anukulapo: 3:33am On Dec 21, 2014

Goshen360:
^ Danfo driver ke, only in our naija na eim that one dey o. We dey talk of hot cake you dey ask for moi-moi..... .

LOL. No mind me o bro. Na joke I dey. I'm sure I learn a lot from it. I love driving and I hope I'll handle one of those long vehicles one day (just for the technicality of the driving sha)

Nairaland General › Re: Today Is My Birthday!!!! by anukulapo: 3:28am On Dec 21, 2014

Congrats. I hope the fun part will be at chop sticks. Pick me up at 805 or yogurberry. LOL

Have a blast celebrating.

Career › Re: A Thread For Professional & Intending Truck Drivers by anukulapo: 3:19am On Dec 21, 2014

Ok. Please post for danfo drivers too. LOL

Christianity Etc › Re: Does People's Name Have Any Effect On Their Fate Or Destiny by anukulapo: 3:16am On Dec 21, 2014

gidyon:
I stand by the Bible.
the bible said a good name is better dan rubies.

True BUT it doesn't mean a "good name" in the literal sense of it.
It means that a person's prestige is better than gaining material things and be known for evil.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Does People's Name Have Any Effect On Their Fate Or Destiny by anukulapo: 3:01am On Dec 21, 2014

Jabez's name was not changed OR was that part of my bible torn off?

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Family › Re: Grandmothers Breastfeeding Their Grandchildren: Right Or Wrong? by anukulapo: 5:25pm On Dec 17, 2014

Nmeri17:
W.H.A.T T.H.A P.H.O.C.K could be right about subjecting a poor toddler to soured milk coming from a FALLEN tank

talk about old wine in old skin the thought of it even makes me wanno puke

Guy,you got me cracking so tey I almost puke for body.
I don press report button finish thinking say na quote I dey press. I couldn't skip quoting your post. LWKMD

Health › Re: Is The Recent Heat An Effect Of Global Warming? by anukulapo: 8:04am On Dec 12, 2014

...But there is "global harmattan" here in abuja. LOL

Lagosians,change your way.

Politics › Re: Niger-Delta Amnesty Fueled Boko Haram - Obasanjo by anukulapo: 4:09pm On Dec 11, 2014

On this fact,OBJ no miss am. Walahi. my friend and I still concluded the same fact this morning while analysing some political issues.

Christianity Etc › Re: The New Testament Prophets Defined. by anukulapo: 7:33pm On Dec 07, 2014

Bidam:
... to avoid derailing this thread further

Ok. Let the thread get back on track.

Bidam:
If you say selfish you are wrong. praying in tongues isnt selfish but building your innerman.

But Bidam,sincerely,you need to cool down and listen to yourself carefully. The above does not fly.

Christianity Etc › Re: The New Testament Prophets Defined. by anukulapo: 7:13pm On Dec 07, 2014

Bidam:
If you say selfish you are wrong. praying in tongues isnt selfish but building your innerman.

Bidam,cool down now. Listen to yourself carefully.

Bidam:
Paul was encouraging believers not only to pray in d spirit but to pray with understanding also .

Yes,you are absolutely right BUT why is he encouraging them to?

Christianity Etc › Re: The New Testament Prophets Defined. by anukulapo: 7:05pm On Dec 07, 2014

"Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the EDIFYING OF THE CHURCH. Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue (edifies himself) pray that he may interpret (because by interpreting,the CHURCH can be edified)." (1 Corinthians 14:12-13).

Christianity Etc › Re: The New Testament Prophets Defined. by anukulapo: 6:54pm On Dec 07, 2014

Bidam:
Your friend shdemidemi thinks otherwise. He said "tongues" are meant for flesh gratification. Thank you.

Ok,let me try to start from an earlier point. The bible is clear about the issue.

The truth is, as for the choice of GRATIFICATION as the definite word (due to its literal meaning), it negates the truth of the scripture about tongues. However,it is possible that (some) right things can be done the right way for the wrong reason. Isn't it possible?

"But he that prophesieth speaketh UNTO MEN TO (their) EDIFICATION, and exhortation, and comfort. He that speaketh in an unknown tongue EDIFIETH HIMSELF; but he that prophesieth EDIFIETH THE CHURCH." (1 Corinthians 14:3-4).

Here is the drill;next verse:

"I would that ye all spake with tongues (edify yourself), but rather that ye prophesied (edifies the church): for greater is he that prophesieth(edifies the church) than he that speaketh with tongues (edifies himself), EXCEPT he interpret, (so) that THE CHURCH may receive edifying." (1 Corinthians 14:5).

EDIFICATION is common to both.
* Like I said in my earlier post, I think the issue is about edification of 1) SELF or 2) CHURCH.
SELF has a tendency/possibility to be selfish (about ones self without extension to others) while in edifying the church,all parts including the "self" is edified.

Christianity Etc › Re: The New Testament Prophets Defined. by anukulapo: 5:19pm On Dec 07, 2014

Bidam:
Once again i ask you, is "tongues" for spiritual edification or flesh gratification?

Tongues is meant for edification.

Christianity Etc › Re: The New Testament Prophets Defined. by anukulapo: 3:21pm On Dec 07, 2014

Bidam:
What i do not understand is your earlier post and i want a clarification on that.

Please,tell me how it is that you do not understand it. Is it that the post is incomprehensible OR you seem not to find it related to the answer that you were expecting?

Bidam:
If you don't understand why the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues is given to believers why not asking questions, instead of having a traditional mindset on such issues?

...Nevertheless at thy word,I will ask. Please Bidam, teach me about "...with the evidence of speaking in tongues" because that is the only part I seem not to understand.

If I have questions,I hope I can ask...and my questions are usually kinda life application (or the answers that I usually require)

I hope you won't be teaching in tongues o because that will not be profitable to me. Just kidding. LOL

Christianity Etc › Re: The New Testament Prophets Defined. by anukulapo: 1:47pm On Dec 07, 2014

Bidam:
Is tongue for spiritual edification or self gratification?

When I consider your response, I feel like I'm getting stuck between a rock and a hard place. I don't know if I should accept that you really don't understand shdemidemi's point or you are on war of words.
Though if it is a war of words,I understand.
It is clear that Vooks is not at war with words because he clearly understands the issue (see quote below)

vooks:
In his sect, private edification is carnal and unbecoming of a Christian yet group/church edification is most welcome and mighty beneficial.

What I understand (regardless of the choice of word whether SELF edification or gratification) is that it is about SELF or the body of christ even as it can be seen in one of the arguments of the role of the NT and OT prophets.

Christianity Etc › Re: The New Testament Prophets Defined. by anukulapo: 6:25pm On Dec 06, 2014

Bidam:
No i am not, you said speaking in tongues gratify flesh and you are yet to prove where it is stated in scripture.

You know that Jesus died for the world and called out the "church" not a member of the "church".

The manifestation of the spirit is for all to profit;that the body may be edified. While he was not out rightly condemning self edification, the man who spoke in tongues them all (paraphrasing) said he'll rather that they (the audience and by extension we too) PROPHESY rather than SPEAK IN TONGUES because he that prophesy edifies all BUT he that speaks in tongue edifies himSELF.

For the most of it (IMO) tongues have been esteemed by todays believers just as circumcision was by the jews...and you know what Paul said about circumcision also "For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh." (Galatians 6:13). If the tongue talkers keep not the command of the lord,they just seek occasion to be different;more like new testament pharisees

These 3 things abides forever, FAITH HOPE and LOVE. The greatest is love

"He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

I would that ye all spake with tongues, BUT rather that ye prophesied: for GREATER is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, EXCEPT he interpret, that THE CHURCH may receive edifying." (1 Corinthians 14:4-5).

I hope that helps.

Shalom.

Christianity Etc › Re: The New Testament Prophets Defined. by anukulapo: 7:30am On Dec 06, 2014

vooks:
my brother,
I know too well that John who came in the spirit and power of Elijah performed no miracles. This means miracles are not a condition for belief.

Be that as it may, in Mark, Jesus Christ promised signs to those who believe and he enumerated them. And we see the same unfolding spectacularly in Acts. So this verse is as literal as they get. Do you agree?

Education › Re: What's The Origin Of Rag Day In Nigerian Tertiary Institutions? by anukulapo: 8:01pm On Dec 05, 2014

ayobase:
those u statistically mentioned do it most.

I did as an engineering student within that CGPA range......it was fun and one of those things u chuckle over when remembering now.

picture below

Ha ha ha...I remember this picture. Eng'r Ayobase on rag.

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamy And Modern Day Christian Marriage. by anukulapo: 2:12pm On Nov 25, 2014

The opposition is just based on ~~human~~ woman right. They are yet to prove that marriage should be monogamous; not even from the jewish culture written in the bible

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